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Monday, August 4, 2008

Politics Hits the BB House

This could be a fire starter.

Spark up the feeds, folks. It's getting hot in there. Renny is being very open about her political beliefs. Keesha's been honest and said she was a Hillary supporter. Libra's kept her mouth shut, thus far, but you can feel her temperature rising. Dan's flat out lying, telling them he's undecided.

I can't help but wonder if any of the discoveries made tonight will have an impact on alliances.

7:43pm BBT
Libra just threw her hat in the ring. She hasn't started stumping for Obama yet, but she's not far off... Renny's politics are really surprising me. When asked, she says she'll be voting McCain. Jerry's about to tell a Clinton joke - not surprising.

7:45pm BBT
Talk turns to safer (?) territory: bashing Chelsea Clinton. April gives her a solid 3. Ollie makes fun of her gums.

7:46pm BBT
Libra has excused herself to join Memphis outside for a game of pool.. and just *away* from that conversation.

Memphis brings it straight to the point.

Memphis: Geez. If we're gonna go there, let's get really raw. Let's talk about abortion, let's talk about...

He lists several divisive topics, and says that's why he left the room. It's good bonding time for him and Libra.

8:30pm BBT
April said a couple times today that she would be calling the 7 up to HoH regarding respecting her wishes... Waiting for it...



Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love you carolyn...xoxoxo bree

August 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM  
Blogger mikeinbama said...

If any topic should be off limits in the Big Brother game.....it should be politics.

That's a no win situation.

August 4, 2008 at 7:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHat did Dan lie about?


August 4, 2008 at 7:47 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

Thanks Carolyn:)

And, thanks for the heads up! I just turned the volume back up on the live feeds. I love listening to others talk politics. I don't discuss politics myself, personally, but I like listening to others on t.v. Always makes for good television.

August 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

Libra walked outside. I want to hear people defend things they believe in. I know it has nothing to do with the game, but in a way it does. HG's could re-position themselves depending on how others in the house think politically, socially, religiously, economically, etc. THAT'S why I want the fireworks. Just to see if people change alliances because of those things.

August 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why is ollie trashing chelsea clinton......she's way too smart to let such a troll get in her pants?

August 4, 2008 at 7:56 PM  
Blogger Candy said...

There are somethings you just don't talk about in mixed company...but of course with every other topic covered it had to go there eventually. I am glad the "herd of sheep" have to deiced to split into smaller herds. Let's see where this all goes ...Loving the alliances now :)

August 4, 2008 at 7:57 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

i love you too, Bree. :) I hope you're feeling better today.

bama - boy howdy

ric - he said he's undecided. big lie.

blue - the pandora's box has been opened...

August 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM  
Anonymous amber said...

you shouldn't talk about politics anywhere...oops isn't everything we say or do all about politics.why not express your opinions..that is your right as a citizen..if not having the same opinion as you in politics makes you a dumb citizen and ignorant then you are in the wrong country..there is a reason this country is divided..pp have their opinions and why should we not be aloud to talk about it? i mean they trashed nat about her abortions last year..grow up libra and realize that not everone believes the same as you.

August 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM  
Blogger N2RealityTV said...

Oh no! Not politics, anything but politics.


August 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

I agree Dan told a huge lie. He clearly said at the beginning of this season he is a conservative republican and thinks Bush is doing a good job. Independents typically do not say things like that.

Maybe he means he is undecided about who he will be voting for in the general election this fall. (Trying to give him the benefit of the doubt to get out of the lie)

I agree, Bama, politics are a no win situation, which is why I avoid that convo myself in my every day life, but I do think it could be exciting to watch on t.v.

August 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM  
Blogger katieblue said...

Wow! Politics is never a good subject to talk about esp in here i would think. Libra was smart for walking away.. Dan smart too. But how long will this last??

August 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM  
Blogger Quentin said...

Soooo proud of Libra! She could have crushed their sheeple arguments, but she knows now is not the time or place. Remarkable show of restraint on her part.

August 4, 2008 at 8:04 PM  
Blogger VaBeachF said...

Who started with the politics talk? I was just wondering if it was Dan and BB choose that as a AP task to get them fired up. That is a touchy situation but would be fun to watch them all go at it lol

August 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

My Grandpa had a saying:

"You can find all walks of life in all walks of life."

That has always stuck with me.

August 4, 2008 at 8:06 PM  
Anonymous amber said...

well...it is true..not being open to tell your opinion because you despise theirs isn't handling it well in my opinion..why can't ppl be human about politics and actually have decent discussions in their views..

August 4, 2008 at 8:06 PM  
Blogger Alice said...

I know that is one of the subjects BB wanted the HG to clash over, but I am glad they are changing the subject. I don't agree with some of them and that's ok. I have my opinion, they have theirs. That is one of the reasons we are in the United States. Our ancestors fought to give us that right to disagree.

August 4, 2008 at 8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

awww...thank you carolyn...im loving catching up..im struggling..my immune system is down and im having red blood cell issues and of course insurance wont pay for my treatment..its the way the owrls is now a days but im trying my best to keep a smile and stay strong..i havent been working much its been hard but BB and you make me smile...:) you are the best and i adore you..thank you always for caring..Bree

August 4, 2008 at 8:08 PM  
Anonymous amber said...

to clarify my last line...i was dissapointed in the way that libra handled the situation by lying and walking off calling them dumb...if she felt they were that wrong then she should have expressed the reasoning why she felt they were wrong...we should be able to talk politics rationally (game or no game) without hating each other for our opinions

August 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM  
Blogger MsFitz said...

Libra said the other night that her political beliefs are strong & she refuses to discuss them. Wonder if she'll be able to continue to stay silent. I personally believe those are topics that are off limits unless you are in a discussion with open minded people. These close quarters would not be a good arena for them to open this type of discussion. Especially because when they have had any type of serious discussions before everyone talks at once & no one seems to listen.

August 4, 2008 at 8:10 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Hi everyone!!

I'm back and caught up on the last few hours that I missed. NO fireworks yet, I didn't miss much!!

BlueX- one of my new gay best friends!! Congratulations on doing sooooo well!! Enjoy your drinks, you deserve them. From one student to another.... I get to spend some time this week reading and trying to wrap my brain around something I really thought I'd love and just can't get into. :( I'm disappointed.

I would have loved to hear a longer political discussion. Too bad.

And a contest!!!! FOR CANADIANS!!! How awesome. I'll be entering every single day!!!!

Now it's official, no kids, no spouse, on holidays and I get to hang out with all of you!!! :)

August 4, 2008 at 8:10 PM  
Blogger Quentin said...

I think that side of Libra is why I liked her from the start. I imagine that just like me, outside of the house she would never shy away from talking politics in mixed company. She is super smart and would probably relish the opportunity to show the light to anyone who will listen.

August 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM  
Blogger Alice said...

Politics and religion are two subject that are always hot issues. Part of the reason is people think that when someone doesn't agree with them the other person is wrong, or ignorant. I feel everyone has to answer for their own decisions. I am conservative and a Christian, but if someone doesn't agree with me that is their choice. I think the only wrong or ignorant mind is the closed mind. As long as someone is willing to listen and allow others to feel differently then that is what makes us human.

Sorry Carolyn, I promise no more controversial discussion from me.

August 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM  
Blogger jane said...

what was renny's politics?

August 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

I'm watching Renny walk the back yard and I just realized that not only does she have a hot body, she has a body similiar to my Mom's. My Mom just turned 61. EW!!

Don't want to think of Mom like that! Gotta switch feeds.

Ew Ew Ew. I mean, HOT HOT HOT, Renny, nice body.
But reminding me of my own Mom?

August 4, 2008 at 8:15 PM  
Blogger Jon said...

What are Renny's politics? Please don't say Republican!!

August 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM  
Anonymous Leigh Ann said...

I'm still confused on why you can't sleep in the living room.

August 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM  
Blogger Quentin said...

Oh, and Chelsea Clinton is pretty hot now. I'd take her over Michelle, April, or Keesha. Keesha and April are pretty, but there isn't much depth there.

August 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

YAY! I finally got some decent sleep. Not the right time of day but I take it when I can get it, like something else I don't get much of :-O

I've caught up on the blogs but i have about 150 comments or more to catch up on, so as I type this, if I am repeating anything already voiced, forgive me.

First: Carolyn I got a big laugh out of this:
2:35pm BBT
Dan & Memphis go inside.
Jessie is in the kitchen eating and talking with Ollie about burnt bacon. Michelle was called to the DR while making bacon.

Has anyone ever played the game "Pigs" ? "Makin' Bacon" is a position you get good points for. (It's like Yahtzee with little pink pigs.)

Now my opinion that I came up with just before I went ZZZ.

It really is smart game play to get Jessie out this week. Once they start going to sequester, we know that couples almost always vote as one. That is enough reason for me. A Michelle/Jessie vote, along with an April/Ollie one minded vote would really screw up the outcome. Couples never think for themselves.

I haven't gone back into BB History, but I know that was the case with the Fitness Twins, Eric and Jessica, Chelsea and James, and.... I know there are more.

It will be bad enough to have ONE couple in sequester. Two would be a first I think and could really screw with who is really the best player in the end.

Just thought I'd throw that out there. Anyone wanna comment, agree or disagree?


August 4, 2008 at 8:29 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

I agree Quentin. Chelsea gave an appearance at a college here in Indiana during her Mom's campaign and I got to watch it on CCTV. Someone asked her about her Mom and Dad(Bill) and about the Monica Lewinsky thing, and she very politely informed him it was none of his business and promptly changed the subject! LOL Very Classy!

Maybe April is going to talk to everyone during the BBAD hours. If not, it will certainly be worth watching tomorrow. But, I hope it is tonight.

August 4, 2008 at 8:31 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

Thanks so much julieb!!!!!xoxoxoxo

Yayyyy. gaytor is back!

Gaytor, I always love your pics, but I must say about this one, mmmmmmmmmHMMMMMMMMMM!!

You a sexy boy!!! If I can get down to New Orleans anytime soon I'm going to have to come visit you!

LOL Kisses

August 4, 2008 at 8:36 PM  
Blogger katieblue said...

Gaytor- hello there- have been eagerly awaiting you're comment- and yes- I agree!

August 4, 2008 at 8:36 PM  
Blogger Kitty said...

I think it was good of Libra to walk away! For once, she's being mature about the situation!

On another note, did anyone hear the Steven, Angie, & Brian interview? It was hilarious! Makes me even more sad they are gone! :(

August 4, 2008 at 8:37 PM  
Blogger baknaz said...

I just came back from urgent care. did I miss anything really important??

August 4, 2008 at 8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gaytor--I love the game pigmania...double snouter to you.

Cutie Dan is now asking for advice on home ownership, finances, etc. from the houseguests who have been thru it before him. He's genuinely listening.


August 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM  
Blogger Kitty said...

I am just excited that this will be a week where they don't do exactly what HOH requests! Finally, some gameplay!

August 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM  
Blogger VaBeachF said...

My main problem with this season and I have not missed a season ever or a show is there ability to do what they want it seems as though they all do whatever HOH wants. I also agree with you Gaytor on the whole couples voting together and you are so right it would suck for the ending votes..

August 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

gnite everyone :) thanks for being a part of the dish :)

reporterx is gonna publish comments and have her ear on the feeds for another couple hours should anything blow up. :)

August 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Gaytor....my other new gay best friend!! I have never heard of "pigs"

Would you not say there were two couples last season...James and Chelsia and Matt and Natt (even tho some didn't think they were a couple???) One would hope they would find their brains while separated in sequester. These are some strong people, I think.

I still don't like Jessie a whole lot and still hope to see him go this week.

Go Dan, he's really moved up in my ranks. Loved the Jessie hug! Too funny!!

And Memphis is getting better. I do think he and Michelle will end up forming a side alliance once the s**t settles down from the eviction?? Maybe???

August 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM  
Blogger baknaz said...

Nite, nite

August 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM  
Blogger VaBeachF said...

Goodnight Carolyn..

August 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

And I soooo hope April calls the 7 together for the face off tonight.

Perhaps that will happen once they are given some liquid courage...alcohol!! :)

August 4, 2008 at 8:47 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Sweet dreams Carolyn :)

OMG the guys are doing planks....I hate planks!!!

August 4, 2008 at 8:49 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Sorry....for the many posts!!

Hi ReporterX!!

August 4, 2008 at 8:50 PM  
Blogger Alice said...

Night Night Carolyn darling.

ReporterX, I'm here for ya sweetie. I'm staying up with the feeds tonight. Got to much of a nap because of a headache and now can not sleep. I've already had my popcorn (with extra salt) and have put the kids to bed. Let the action begin.

August 4, 2008 at 8:50 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

Good Night, Carolyn!!! xoxoxoxo
Have a well-deserved sleep!

Ready to party, ReporterX? LOL

August 4, 2008 at 8:50 PM  
Anonymous amber said...

why is it mature for her(Libra) to walk away? that is a concept that i am not understanding..unless it is being implied that she can not maturely discuss her views..Renny was right..the whole democrat/republican bs gets in the way for who to vote for..does it really matter as long as their views is the same as yours? I don't think so and that is why I will not list myself as either.Because I want to chose the one with my beliefs..Jerry was wrong though Independants do not get to vote in the primaries if there is not an independant.At least in my state.

August 4, 2008 at 8:51 PM  
Anonymous amber said...

good night Carolyn!!

August 4, 2008 at 8:52 PM  
Blogger Brother Mouzone said...

In a game like this, discussing politics serves no real purpose. Getting into arguments won't make Libra a conservative any more than it will make Dan a liberal.

I'd also like to add that I'm glad to see this discussion hasn't spilled over to the comments here. We all have our views, and they are to be respected.

And I agree with you, Quentin. Chelsea looks pretty good right now, and more importantly, has turned into an intelligent, thoughtful, classy young woman, which isn't always easy for someone who grew up in the spotlight the way she did.

August 4, 2008 at 8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Libra and Keesha chatting about nothing w/ April...I hope this re-establishes their rapport and makes April less suspicious of their plans.


August 4, 2008 at 8:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feed 1--Memphis, Dan, Ollie doing stretches in the yard...lookin good.


August 4, 2008 at 8:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so bored with the feeds tonight! I have been waiting all day for a little bit of excitement, as anticipated, but I can honestly say this is one of the most boring days of BB10 feeds! I think I will soon fall asleep....if nothing picks up!

August 4, 2008 at 8:59 PM  
Blogger Kitty said...

I just think with a group like that, politics are a bad topic. It seems as though she realized it (and seems very strong on her views) and decided to walk away.

August 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM  
Blogger ReporterX said...

Hi everyone..

hugs and kissies...

I'm here..approving comments for now if anything big happens I'll open a new post...will let ya know.

August 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM  
Blogger VaBeachF said...

Hi ReporterX :-) hoping for a fiesty night on the feeds lol

August 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM  
Blogger Noni in NJ said...

Gaytor, hi sweetie. I used to love the game Pigs, but loaned mine and never got it back.Made a good drinking game I remember. Could never find one again. I worked for a retail chain of clothing stores called Britches (Great Outdoors) and sold them there along with fabulous sweaters, rugbys, for a few years back in the late 80's. I used to do their windows and displays for several stores. Game Pigs was their big thing. We even played it in the store. May be because logo contained a Warthog which was on all the shirts etc. we even sold stuffed Warthogs.

I am disappointed things are just to tame in the house tonight, may have to go hit TIVO and watch Saving Grace.

August 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM  
Blogger VaBeachF said...

What happened to Dan's shoulder??

August 4, 2008 at 9:06 PM  
Blogger MsFitz said...

Good nite, Carolyn! Thanks for all your hard work today. Hi, ReporterX! I agree Chelsea Clinton has a lot of class & I admired her during her mother's campaign to avoid some questions that were very personal to her. Brother Mouzone, very well stated about political views.

August 4, 2008 at 9:08 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

BBAD just started, right? I don't get it, but I'm guessing from the clock. If anything is going to happen, it will be sometime soon.

I'm so glad I live in a college town, I just ordered a pizza, and they are still open. After midnight, even.

Anyway, whispering happening. Gotta pay attention.

August 4, 2008 at 9:09 PM  
Blogger ReporterX said...

new top post :-)

August 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM  
Blogger Noni in NJ said...

anon: thanks for "pigmania". Its been so many years forgot that was the real name. All I could remember was throwing the little pink pigs, and scoring based on how they landed. Now i can even remember what the box looked like. I wish I could remember all the rules of the drinking version. Anyone out there ever play it that way? I may have to get in touch with a friend or two from that era/ My memory these days is like a sieve. What is my name again?

Would April please call the meeting so we can get some sparks flying!
Resistance, don't give away the plan though.It will be so much better if it comes as a surprise.

August 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM  
Blogger Noni in NJ said...

hi reporter X, for some reason I am not finding the new top post?
Ha d same problem night of POV. last heading I see is this one. HELP!

August 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM  
Blogger ReporterX said...

Noni click top of the comments page where it says: BB10Dish! Ya Gotta Have it!

If you don't see new top post called Evening in the BB10 house..hit your fresh button and you should see it.

August 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM  
Blogger ReporterX said...

the new post will not be listed in 'Recent Posts' sorry..I can't add it there..you will have to look for the post on the main blog page..scroll down past the 'Recent Posts'

August 4, 2008 at 9:50 PM  
Blogger Tella said...

Interesting, but not a good thing, to discuss politics (and religion) in this kind of atmosphere. Libra is benefitting from not starting her push for Obama. It may very well back fire. I am not surprised about Renny and McCain... I live in SoCal and I know many people who also will vote for him, due to how the Democratic Primary went down. There are many PUMAs out there (disgusted Dems... "Party Unity My A**). Back to Libra, I think that she is the kind of person who would really resent Dan if she knew his politics. For goodness sake, she is upset when somebody talks to somebody else... knowing that somebody is a Nobama... big time, would cause issues. I am sure Dan kept secret to Keesha about his plans to leave the country if her favorite would be President. Smart move.

This house is charged enough... as are the feeds and blogs. I come on here to escape the political news crap. ;-)

August 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Libra walked off because she knows she has a short temper with stuff like that.

I like to talk politics with some people, but I also have a short temper. If I feel that the person I'm talking to isn't open to considering my opinions and beliefs, then I usually get angry and don't want to talk about it anymore. I have friends that have completely opposite beliefs/opinions than I do regarding religion and politics because we both respect each other. I get very angry when one of my "friends" starts to judge me, argue with me, belittle me, etc because they think that they believe is 100% right and I'm 100% wrong. I've actually had friendships end because of conversations regarding politics/religion. If they won't respect me and my personal opinions (that I don't force onto them) then they will not be my friend.

August 5, 2008 at 8:17 AM  

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