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McCrae has Won the PoV
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Elissa: What if he uses the PoV on Andy?
GM: Good job guys, everyone, very nice.
Andy: I thought I'd hit 15..
Elissa: Was I going really slow?
Andy: That's strategy. It could have worked, cuz you don't get as dizzy.
Spencer: You know you have to put up me or Andy. If Judd goes up, she would expect me and McCrae to vote Judd out.
Judd: What if we try to convince him to try to use it on Amanda, so we can try to save them both this week?
Spencer: Dude, he wont use it on her..
2:11pm
Bathroom
Cam 1
Amanda: (through tears and sniffles) You won it fair and square. I'm happy you won. I love you. It's better this way..
Cam 3
GM: He's comin' down. Someone's gotta sit and look pretty..
Spencer: Elissa..
GM: She didn't put me up. I gotta return the favor. We gotta rock, paper, scissors for it. Sorry, Andy.
Spencer: There's no way Elissa will vote to keep Amanda.
GM: No.. She's happy as hell right now.
2:22pm
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| Amanda's outfit is from the comp, not a humilitard. Note the pink tutu next to the HoH bed. |
GM: The worst case scenario is him winning HoH.
Spencer: And he's not gonna win.. This was a fluke.
Judd: Their liable to fake fight..
GM: At least one of ems going home.
Elissa comes in..
Spencer: No matter who goes up, you're voting out Amanda, right?
Elissa: OhmyGod.. Are you kidding me?
GM: Everyone's on the same page, even you Elissa.
4:10pm
Camera 1
Amanda and GM
Amanda makes the first of what will likely be many pleas to Ginamarie. Her arguments:
"Everyone in jury loves Elissa, except Aaryn. It would make no waves if she left. She tortured you and Aaryn the entire game. No one in jury likes me and I don't win comps. You would win over me. You wouldn't win over her. You wanna talk about a big move? That's a big move. I wont even say put up anyone else. That's the only person. Everyone will be coming after me. You can guarantee yourself all the way to the end. If you save me, I swear to you on everything, I will be loyal to you. McCrae will too. I need this. That would be huge. She walks around being awful to everyone, and I look like the bully. If you took her out of this game, it would be a way bigger move than taking me out. You have such a powerful choice to make. I know you wanted to separate me and McCrae, because we're a power duo, but I'm telling you, you can use us, and you can walk away with deals left and right. She does not deserve to be here. She's ungrateful. She doesn't even play the game. She was nasty to you and nasty to Aaryn since the beginning of this game. Loyalty is huge to me, and I know it's huge to you. I have nothing else. As long as I'm still in the house, people will still be trying to get me out. We can make you stronger. You would be getting rid of the person who got rid of Nick, who got rid of Aaryn, who has a lot of friends in jury, and who's starting to pick up the pace in competitions. You would be getting rid of Rachel's sister. All of these are huge arguments for you in final 2. If we're still here and she goes, we'll help you."4:28pm - the conversation ends..
Amanda haters, this is the week you've all been waiting for. Indulge yourself in the 2 day free trial of the live feeds and relish in her misery...
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 1:35 PM
188 Comments:
41+% want Elissa to win the POV?
I wish someone would enlighten me. What are Elissa's good points?
She's not crass and rude like Amanda
Shamrock
She is Rachel's sister
Grendon you know what would be hilarious? If the veto was the one where you have punishments, Amanda win the one where you have to be handcuffed to someone for 24 hours and she picked Elissa! In the past (Brendon) they did not make them do the full 24 hrs but I will bet they would make them go the whole time for entertainment!
I would love this!
Shamrock I would like to know the same thing. I was shocked by that poll!
She will keep the noms the same no question.
racism@sharmrock to me, I personally , I will not stand for racism. Nobody is perfect. I do feel the stress of the house brings out the worst in people, but being racist is a whole another level. I am cheering for no one this season but I do not want to see Amanda win, with everyone else's faults showing her by far makes me sick to my stomach. But that's just my opinion. I am just glad someone finally has a backbone to put them on the block...better late then never
Hi Shamrock :) Well, she has been following me on twitter since Rachel's 1st season, so we know she's got good taste. ;-)
Hi August :)
Hi Jumbo :)
Hi ShiShi :) That would be hilarious!
Carolyn on the poll 'which 3HG would you like to see in final three you should have a slot for 'none of the above'. lol
Hi Basal :)
Hi JustADash :)
ShiShi - hehehe! I have to update that one anyway. I'll add the option when I do.
Hi all,
Just for follow through on nominations thisI week I hope either GM or Elissa win POV.
Have a fun week end!
K
I think a lot of why people want Elissa to win is because it would drive Amanda nuts. Except for the Rachel fan base I don't think many people like Elissa for herself. I just think that more people dislike Amanda. Personally I would like both of them voted off, but I prefer to see Amanda and McCrea go before Elissa.
Elissa is not a bad person at all. She is actually quite sweet. Most people get upset or feel obligated to say something about racism and bullying but Elissa is someone who is deeply, to the core of her soul offended by it and simply can't move past it. That speaks highly of her character in my opinion. She has done some decent things gamewise- being smart with her MVP and taking out someone deeply entrenched in the McCranda alliance.
Amanda may be crass and rude at times but at least she's human. Saying what Amanda's faults are doesn't tell anyone what's good about Elissa. She has been playing a great game up until this week. Elissa is an elitist snob with no social skills, intelligence or human empathy. She is a narcissistic robot who only got on the show because of her sister. I would much rather know Amanda in real life than Elissa.
Shamrock
She doesnt have man hands? Im not reminded of the Seinfeld episode?
Hi Carolyn!
I will be joining the live feeders tonight once I can get the little one asleep. :-) looking forward to the aftermath of POV
McCray won!
Well GM. Putting up an exterminator would be stupid even if they are safe. She wont look true to her alliance if she wont put up Elissa
Why all the scheming? Enjoy the rest of the week, let McCrea use the POV and vote out one of your targets. Don't overthink a simple thing.
Maybe Mccrae has thrown everything? Like I said earlier, it shouldnt be hard to win comps against this group
Happy POV Saturday Carolyn and BBDishers!!
I rarely get to comment on Saturdays and I catch up with things when I can during busy weekends. But today, I'm so anxious. I'm actually pulling for Elissa or McCrae to win. I want Amanda out of there for sure this week! If they keep her in there, that spark and determination she got to win POV last week could fire up and shoot her right to F2. That's not a chance I'd be willing to take.
And BTW, I've said from the beginning that I am not pulling for Elissa to win or even get to F2. But her stubbornness is needed to get McCranda out. She could then go next in my book.
Rats Mcrae.... ;( ..... oh well hopefully Amanda will go!
Elyssa may "push buttons" with Amanda as everyone says, but what doesn't push Amanda's buttons when it comes to elyssa?
Also unlike Amanda elyssa has not made any racial or homophobic comments toward anyone.
Amanda thinks elyssa laughing in her face is pushing her buttons but what should she do when Amanda follows her around yelling at her non stop? She doesn't sink to her level. She laughs it off. She doesn't give Amanda the reaction she wants which just infuriates her even more.
I love elyssa n hope she wins. Gina Maria n Amanda and even spencer have made crude racial and homophobic comments and that alone is enough to dislike them. Mcrae has spent the whole season sleeping with Amanda and forgot he was playing at all. Andy cannot be trusted. he turns on his alliance over n over, and while that is part of the game he also talks so nasty constantly about the people he actually pretends to have a real friendship with. That leaves elyssa and Judd. If either of them win ill be happy.
BigPink....AMEN!
This works out best for them. Amanda needed to go before McCrae anyway
GM isn't putting Elissa up because she saved her last week.To me that's fair and the guys can't complain about it either. Putting Andy or Spencer is the right choice.Boom Amanda goes home. Hello Carolyn,hopefully you can sneak in a break or nap this weekend!
BigPink
Agree! 1000000000%!!!
I was wondering, if Elissa can't move past racism, why has she become besties with GM? And why does she talk about how much she misses Aaryn?
BigPink
I wholeheartedly agree!
I hope the guys jump all over GM for not putting up Elissa. Its an insult to the alliance
I agree well said
Maybe this win will keep my interest for another week. I am so sick of those bashing Amanda while now LOVING foul mouthed 'bigot' GM (I don't call people names usually, because if I don't know a person I don't know their intent and heart to call them such a vile thing)... but I guess many think she is a bit slow and can't help it... even though she is older than both Amanda and Aaryn.
With Amanda gone, I hope McCrae gets a second chance to play and I would LOVE a win by McC on Thursday's first HoH. He could put up Elissa and GM and take one of them out... hopefully Elissa. GM has won some comps and played a better game than Elissa... even if I don't like her much. I like none of them much, that is the problem.
Bye bye Amanda!!! Woohoo she is such a mean person!
I must be the only person except BigPink who loves Amanda. I think she has played a brilliant game, albeit different then anybody else ever has. I don't want to see her go I think out of everyone she deserves to win. I don't see anyone else with any decent strategy.
Andy really disappointed me. I hope the guilt he feels is deep, especially when they are sitting around talking about how awful Amanda was the other day towards Elissa and he chimes in agreement. He knows the reason she did it was to try and keep him off the block and he blew it himself by telling Elissa he was aligned with them.
Agree
Look at Andy trying to force tears while talking with Amanda. Ugh
Hi Carolyn,
Well Mc finally won something, both him and Amanda won POV when needed...hmmmmm
P
I agree with you Big Pink :-) Well stated....now I hope this puts the fire in McCrea ......and he wins.....I am no longer an Andy fan...
It's disappointing to see Amanda go because, up until this point, she's the only one who has played this game hard. Everyone else has been content to sit back and let mob mentality rule the house. I watch BB mostly for the game and not to see a simple popularity contest.
It's only fitting that the four floating stragglers would come together at the end. I hear GM talk about how great The Exterminators are and I have to laugh. Four out of the final seven decide to work together? Wow. "What a complex, well-executed plan," I say dripping with sarcasm.
As far as Elissa versus Amanda goes, I break it down in the most simple way I can imagine. Amanda has her highs and her lows but if you met her in the street, she comes off as the type who would hug you, be very personable and excited to meet a fan. Elissa is someone who ignore your calls until you got right up in her face and she'd reluctantly pose for a quick photo.
It's nice to have a high moral character, but at the end of the day I care more about humanity and empathy. I've seen Amanda at her best. I've seen her at her worst. She's a person who will likely extent an olive branch to most of the house afterwards. Elissa feels closed off, narcissistic, and like she's the type who won't have anything to do with Big Brother ever again unless Rachel twists her arm to do All-Stars 2 with her (despite Elissa portraying nothing interesting about herself that would qualify as an All-Star).
I'm sorry to see Amanda go. Here's hoping Elissa follows her on the same night. Hooray for double evictions!
what a great week. I'm ready to see the showmance ended! The only way to ensure Amanda goes home is for one of the Exterminator guys to go up, not Elissa. I think GM is smart enough to do that, and loyal enough to return the favor Elissa gave to her last week. I'm pretty happy right now...as long as Amanda goes home. Even though she has had game strategy, it's marred for me as a viewer by her overall character and the fact that she's played prone, unshowered, and really just gross. Shallow of me? perhaps. But still... I'm done with her.
nnaxor
You and BigPink are not alone. Also, Andy was trashing Amanda again today in the HOH room with Judd and GM.
I can't even forve myself to be affected by Amanda's tears. I know she's sad for the end of her game and that's natural She shouldn't have been so cocky. With regard to Andy, he has been loyal to McCranda, he has bonded with them more than some others naturally. His tears are real. But he wants it too! Everyone does. I don't get into the who deserves to be there thing. Some people NEED the money. Some would like it but no big deal. Some people just LOVE this game and want to prove they can win. One winner. One runner-up. Fight to the end! Lay off the deserve to be here conversation... PLEASE.
Nnaxor....I like Amanda also. I don't like a lot of the things she has said and done but she is the only one playing the game.
Pamela Y Said...--
(Slightly redacted.. )
...Elissa is a rude, crass, and fake person... Amanda does almost everything she does to better her "alliance" Elissa just shouts her mouth off because she is bipolar!
From one day to the next she can't decide who she thinks is "a horrible person"... Remember her telling everyone they better not use the veto on Aaryn because she hated her and wanted her out?
Then she switched and wanted Amanda out. You need a score pad to keep up with her...
Absolutely!
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I do think that Amanda will win America's MVP, if it is based on gameplay.
If Im in GMs alliance, her protecting Elissa would be a deal breaker
Lucky13. I respectfully disagree with you about Andy's tears. He said he was going down and try to squeeze some tears out. This is not the first time. Remember when he did it to Elissa last week?
I can't even stand to listen to Andy and Elissa right now
To me, Elissa's comments about Aaryn are gameplay in her move to team up with GM. I honestly think when she makes comments about not being friends with some of these people outside the game is not her being elitist. That's what I am talking about when I say she can't move past it. People try to nail her to the wall for being an "elitist snob" and my perception is different. Most of America, myself included, wouldn't want to associate with quite a few of these people who got cast on BB this year. The buzz has been about the awful cast this year. As far as getting close to GM, I think its smart gamewise. Slim pickings at this point. Just my view.
Seeing Andy trying to cover his ass by crying in front of Amanda and McCrae is annoying. I want him to be outed so bad for his shifting to the most convenient group all season.
Now my ideal would be a McCrae and Spencer F2... YIKES. Because for me Loyalty is more important than almost anything in this game. None is perfect... but Andy has been on a float all summer and you do not leave team mates behind if things get tough.
Those who HATE Amanda may worry that she won't be taken to task for her words and the actions in the house during a Double Eviction. Not a lot of time for the interview in depth.
When I started to be obsessed with BB back in 2000 I knew it was a game of social interaction under a very stressful frame. Nothing this season is new inside the house. The hate on the internet is however NEW and higher than any degree. That is the world as a perfect example... hate those you don't agree with - all the time - anywhere. Even reading comments there is not only joy in your favorite winning, but outward glee and Schadenfreude that somebody in the house is hurting. It really says more about the commenter, chatter or tweeter. We are all a hateful bunch... and this is just a game. I save my energy to speak out for those who can't do it for themselves, and my HATE is saved for those who abuse animals, kids, special needs, elderly etc... not interested in it here. I don't make my mind up on a person by watching them in an unnatural situation with a shot for half a million in an economy where many would kill for the same. I see people online ready with pitch forks and realize we are one stupid species.
Enough ranting and ending with a perfect quote for the time, because it shows that hating a hater make you another hater. There is a way to point out facts as we know them at this moment in time without being hateful.
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
That is why you are Queen of BB... I appreciate you keeping the peace!
In honor of MLK Jr., a non partisan who tried to Unite us all.
"There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies."
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
Don't like Amanda but would rather see Elissa go first. If I were forced to choose one of the hg from this season to hang out with for a couple of days I would choose several painful dental procedures before I would choose hanging out with Elissa.
BigPink
I agree too!! 1000000001%!!!
Well said!!
Aaron Senecaut
I think Elissa's elitist snobbery extends far beyond her not liking her fellow HGs. It exudes from her in everything she does.
IMHO
Scott Dudley
The vibe I get is Elissa has America's Favorite in the bag. Sad. Oh well, maybe it will improve her self image
I agree too
She cangt't get by it?
Hello GM
Jumbo...I agree with you about Elissa having Americas Favorite in the bag. However she will never get my vote, e en if she was the only one playing the game!
I read a lot of the comments about Amanda vs Elissa. I question if some of them are watching the feeds or are just TVonlies. One of them paraded around the house with just bandaids on her breasts, spent many days walking around with her panties on, spent a lot of her time in sexual encounters on national TV. Plus racist and homophobic comments. Now that is not the type of person I would want to spend time with.
And those who are questioning GM not being faithful to the Exterminators have apparently missed the multiple conversations of Andy/Spencer discussing the need to evict GM and Judd. Andy/Spencer have already dissolved the Exterminators.
Hey Caro and Disher peeps. :)
Caro ... I follow you on Twitter, so I guess I have great taste too !!! lol ...
I'm happy for McCrae. He probably was leaving if he didn't win that POV. Now I just hope he doesn't do something dumb, like hang it on Amanda's neck.
Maybe he can win the Thurs Dbl Evict HoH and get rid of Elissa or one of the Rats and Snakes alliance members.
I'm still hoping for J-U-Double D to turn up his Comp game .... otherwise, I've really got no favorite in this game. My dislike meter is working quite well though.
@Jumbo GM is the 4th in an alliance of four and she will be evicted accordingly unless she wins HoH or PoV. She doesn't seem to 'get' that.
@Shi Shi I agree with you most of the time and Andy is all faking it.
@Good Times That is a perfect explanation if GM keeps Elissa off the block by Monday.
@Grendon You speak my mind more often than I do. "I was wondering, if Elissa can't move past racism, why has she become besties with GM?" This is my whole problem with Elissa (unless it is for game as Aaron points out in a comment) and many of her fans. They are all selectively outraged depending on who they like. I call BS on that. This is why those who play this game personally tires me out. This is where Amanda lost her mojo. ;-) The same will go for GM and Elissa.
I guess women are just more prone to play it on a feelings based personal level... while the guys strategize and try to analyze it to death. This is why a female has never won BB against a guy. Unless it is GM vs Elissa F2, I am sure a guy will win... or make BB History. Most players value game over emotions. I believe Aaryn and Helen will vote on Game... not sure of the rest. This year will be interesting. McCrae's game will benefit Amanda being gone... because he has to check in.
There are always exceptions in every stereotype... Nakomis was a very strategic game player and her brother Cowbody was more of an emotional player. Nakomis was sent packing because she was too much of a threat in BB5... she came up with the 'famous' 5 finger plan.
Mia Monasdotter
It's funny that you used that MLK, Jr. quote. I get BB updates on my Facebook from a few different places. A few weeks ago, frustrated with how the 'good people' in the house were every bit as mean as the 'evil people' I made a comment about how disappointed I was. I said that some people behaved badly right out of the gate and others became heroes by default. I said that I did not see any heroes and that even the people who claimed to be good were not. I never said who I was rooting for or even mentioned a HG by name.
I received a response saying basically, "I don't know what you are talking about. It's pretty obvious who is good and who is bad this year."
I responded back that I never thought it could be that clear cut. I said that I believe that there is good in the worst of us and bad in the best of us.
Basically I was laughed at and taunted. Needless to say, I blocked that site and no longer receive updates on my FB from it.
I hope Amanda goes home this week because she is a vile and despicable person. Had she played this game differently, I would have rooted for her.
I come here to BBDish for Carolyn and all the comments by all the regulars. I have been for about 7-8 years. It is a place for fun and giggling and getting to know everyone and to share what is going on in each others lives, good and bad...
But this season is different, my life at home is very sad this year and I keep coming here for a little pick me up and all I am getting is all this awful hatred for several HG's. It doesn't matter which side you are on, it is only getting worse and worse.
I am probably wrong for writing this and MOST of you won't agee, but I had to say something...
Carolyn, I am sorry, I don't mean to cause problems and you may not want to post this, but if you do, thank you...(((hugs)))
Just step back and read what you are writing...
Pam
Thanks Mia
I think McRae has played a better game strategically. He has managed to make it quite a long time without having to get out of bed. I think he has actually been running Amanda up until the last few weeks and now that the creature has run off the rails, she will be gone and his hands are mostly clean and he has someone to blame. All without even making the effort to take a shower or brush his teeth.
@Jumbo
"I think Elissa's elitist snobbery extends far beyond her not liking her fellow HGs. It exudes from her in everything she does. IMHO"
LOL. Like how she keeps commenting that only a Yoga mat that cost $100 and up is good enough for her. Maybe it is her strategy and that shows how bad she is as a player on strategic level. Talking about your fancy cars, fancy trips, indoor hockey rink and Spa to be at your home while saying that winning $5K in BB is nothing - when there are people there who have less than $10K to their name and this summer will give them at least another $13K... Either she is out of touch or she is a snob. Don't take me wrong... I don't think needy financially should make you a winner... comps won and social play should.
It gives me a headache listening to all the stuff 24/7. I am so grateful I don't have to write a blog about it... even if lately my comments may seem long as a blog for many. It's just too doGdamn hot to be outside.
Divr
I spend a lot of time on the feeds. Nudity can be considered confidence or low-class. That can depend on a person's body image, the way they were raised or childhood trauma. (Amanda was sexually molested when she was 3. ) This is not the first time it has happened though.
An ex-HG did the same thing as Amanda and became a much loved and respected part of the extended BB family. Rachel flashed her bits more than once. For the first 2 weeks of this season, Kaitlin spent more time walking around in her underwear than she did in pants.
@Grendon
Personal insults not necessary and sometimes you just have to cut the crazies who mainly have an agenda to push. Good for you... and funny to think that you were bashed for practically quoting one very wise man. LMAO.
I couldn't agree more. In my opinion ....Amanda has won this season because when she leaves the only people left aren't even really playing. Maybe Andy, but even tho he was one of my favorites for many weeks ....I smell a Shelly and that is not someone I'd root for.
Puke ....I wish he could hear me telling him to shut up.
Grendon -"It's pretty obvious who is good and who is bad this year."
Actually it is pretty obvious. However, since you have been supporting Amanda all throughout the season, I don't blame you for making up excuses for her behavior. I think it is just human nature that we turn a blind eye to people we like. We try our best to not really see the bad in them. We find explanations to make even the most despicable actions they make acceptable.
Unfortunately, I think more viewers see Amanda as evil and I agree with them. It's all her fault and I will not even bother say Elissa or Candice or Howard or Judd egg her on. It's ridiculous. She is what she is.
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She can't get past anything! That's what it seems like to me.
@Pammela
Sorry about your difficulties in life. I am much like you re. BB. I seriously think the hatred and push to threaten outside of the house and so on... has gotten worse with the internet.
Maybe next year they should have a group of nuns in there. ;-) I am sure we will be entertained. The men can be Buddhist monks...
Agree!!!!!
Good Evening everyone!
I'd just like to start off by saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and just bcos someone doesnt root for the person you like doesnt make them a hater. Ive always said Amanda was playing the game and would deserve to win if she makes it to final 2. For personal reasons, I just dont want that to happen.....and I can admit that im giving in to personal preferences over gameplay. But im not going on and on about how much I dislike her. In fact, kudos to her for handling herself so well in the wake of the noms. I think commentors all over the internet are just as guilty of continuously bashing on the houseguests, about much as we accuse the houseguests of doing to one another. At that point perhaps keeping things more game related than stressing about what we personally despise about someone is the best thing. If you cant entertain the idea of Elissa saying one more thing about (insert whatever u like here) ..... are we doing the exact same thing? Yeah I know ive said this before as well. But Is there really any reason to challenge someone as to why they like or dislike someone? Just accept that everyone will not agree, and lets stop drawing lines in the sand. Its THEIR game to play.
That being said, im kinda ok that McCrae won. Theres only a couple weeks left to play the game and I had been hoping he would be able to do so without distraction. But now it may be too little too late....depending on who wins HOH for the double. Im also hoping GM sticks to her guns to keep Elissa off the block. If the alliance is strong it shouldnt be an enormous concern to the rest of them. Since GM knows Elissa isnt part of that alliance and will be a sure vote against Amanda to cancel out Mcraes vote, it would make sense. If Gm wants to repay Elissa for keeping her off of the block then her alliance should be able to handle it....they DO have the votes.
Have a great evening everyone.
Very true and I hope so too, but this cast this year don't seem to know the meaning of the word alliance!
Hi all
I will never understand the venom against these HGs. Yes GM Amanda and spencer have been considered the "bad kids on the block" but I don't hate them. Elissa Andy and McCrae have been playing the game. They let Amanda do all the dirty work and they reaped the benefits. Judd I'm really not sure of his play. Andy however every week has been in the middle giving lip service to both dides of the house without getting outed.
Divr
Im aware of all those. Andy and Spencer talk about cutting Judd or GM behind their backs. GM putting up an Exterminator is an upfront move against the alliance. Also I have no problem viewing a woman in bandaids and panties
Sorry for all my comments Carolyn... it's giving you more to do... wish I had a job so I could tip you... but not even making enough for rent this month. So sick of balancing transfer balances on credit cards in a smart non interest way. It's a strategy worthy of BB. ;-) This is why I understand how some in the house are irked by the attitude of others when it comes to finances and life style. As for me... I am just hoping for the economy to get better and quality jobs to come around.
@Mr Berry I find your comments very right on the spot as well.
I'm shocked to say this, but Judd is really turning me off as of late. He's apparently rewritten history in his mind where McCrae and Amanda masterminded his exit when in reality, Andy got the ball rolling while both Helen and Elissa were in on it from day one.
Also, the boy should rethink his strategy. Being in a four person alliance isn't that great if you're number three or four on the depth chart. When Amanda goes, McCrae won't be seen as much of a threat. Then they'll pick off Elissa. I could see Spencer, Andy, and GM strongly considering Judd a bigger threat than McCrae at that point. Judd's constant negativity and the knowledge that he has quite a few friends in the jury house could hurt him. He should be spending his time right now shoring up a solid, smaller alliance.
McCrae will be alone. The person who swoops in and claims his loyalty could ensure their spot in the finale.
Jumbo
People who are fans of BB have little to chose from regarding these houseguests. I think true fans will eventually cede their vote to gameplay. I also think that the Elissa/Rachel fan base won't be unanimous if they are true fans and won't support someone who threatened to quit.
@Vana
"I'd just like to start off by saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and just bcos someone doesnt root for the person you like doesnt make them a hater."
True to a point. But it seems the majority of fans of one DESPISES the 'enemy' and call them vile, gross and much worse and that does make them a hater. There is a difference calling a behavior (which is temporary) names than it is to call a person names. BB Dish is tame compared to other sites... especially compared to Twitter and Chat rooms.
I agree with a lot of what you said, even if I think we have different people we would like to win... for goodness sake, this has become who I want to lose the least. What is lacking is Civility. And what the internet has done is make people who wouldn't say something to a person's face 'brave' or coward enough to spew enough venom about them on the internet. If you say something in person... less damage, because the crap online is there forever. And that goes for those who comment too. Big Brother is literally watching you.
Everyone I know that watches Big Brother loves Elissa. She is a big favorite in my neck of the woods, and in many polls. She will definitely get a lot of votes for AFP. So will Judd.
I think standing up against racism and anti-gay comments has won her great admiration, as her gentler spirit. All contestants have their flaws...all of us do. But as far as temperment and morals, she has shown great character in comparison to other houseguests that remain. This may explain her high poll numbers.
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If only Kaitlin's gameplay was as good as her everything else
Pammela
I know I can be very opinionated. It's usually because I am passionately defending someone but in the process it may come off more that I am putting someone else down. I hope I am not bringing your mood down in the process. Last year, when Dan had his funeral and threw Britney under the bus I was devastated. I was hurt for Brit and angry and disappointed in Dan. Everyone else kept saying what a great game move he had made but all I could see was 'mean'. I realized that what was going on with my grandmother was affecting the way I felt about what was going on in the BB house. Blue actually helped me to put the pieces together.
@Carolyn
Regarding the rules of the comment section-you've been put through the wringer this year. Don't you wish you could just push a button like production? 'Commentors-shut it down!'
Grendon
I realize and respect that you spend much time on the feeds. The reason for my comment was merely to voice my preference as others have about which of the two I would choose to spend time with. I recognize as you had explained there are various reasons for people to act in certain ways. But regardless of the reasons behind Amanda's actions, I would not choose that person to spend time with.
I would also add that I am not hoping for Elissa to win. My choice for F2 is Judd/GM with Judd winning. And yes I acknowledge GM's faults. But using the perspective of one's environment having an impact on one's actions. Above all, I feel GM has been one of the most loyal and faithful players. Up to the point that she has been respectful of Elissa not nominating her last week, and therefore not giving consideration to putting her up this week.
MVP was a horrible idea. It became too easy to target competitors. I think that has a lot to do with the house we've got now
I dont understand the point of being in an alliance if your alliance member is willing to put you up over someone outside the alliance
Throughout life I have been one who was raised to respect everyone's right to their choices. And I always respect other's rights, as long as they respect my rights.
Time for me to return to stealth mode...
Mia
Even with monks and nuns BB would force us to find ones we love to hate. Just look how many cant stand Elissa...and she is perfect!
Divr
I hope I didn't chase you away or in any way add to pushing you back into stealth mode. I didn't mean to be confrontational. I could probably hang out with someone who walks around half naked, yet I could not walk around half naked myself. I am guessing if GaYToR was here he would have something to add to this conversation and there would probably be varying degrees of nudity involved.
Excellent points!
Since when is being a snob worse than being mean and vindictive? Elissa may be an elitist snob, but Amanda is just down right hateful. The way she talked about Eliss's child, and taunted her, is hideous! Not to mention the fact that she has done this to others, plus she threatened everyone by saying anyone who talks to her is going home. I am not pulling for Elissa either, but I just cannot understand how anyone can pull for Amanda. I am also tired of hearing so and so played a better game than _______! No matter all of our personal opinions the person who wins obviously played a better game because they won, no matter how they got there. I really think that right now Spencer is playing the best game because he is on no ones radar, and none of the houseguests (even us for that matter) truly know where his head is at. I predict if they don't get him out soon, he may win, seeing as how everyone probably wants to sit next to him in final 2. Elissa is very good a reading people, so she is probably the only one who could put a stop to his game. If she does I will then be pulling for her to win (even though she is a snob).
McCrea is out of bed! He is bonding with the guys. Is this the end of GM and Elissa?
As to who is playing the game. I think they all are playing the game. They each are doing it their own way, often how it was dictated by circumstances, but playing nonetheless. Everyone can't play it the same way. IMO a better comment would be, I don't like their gameplay, rather than "he/she isn't/didn't play"
Each of them has done what was needed to get themselves to this point. That will be true when it comes to the final two. I'm sure few people will be satisfied by the final two. But, that is the game of BB.
Chele
When did she take a stand?
Yay nnaxor! Glad there is at least one other person who appreciates Amanda's game!
@ Mia....
I feel you regarding the whole internet thing. Ive been on other sites and know just how nasty the people on there can get. I think Carolyn does a wonderful job in weeding things out. And no one likes to be attacked. The only thing I can honestly say about those other sites, perhaps bcos Carolyn maintains this one so diligently is that I dont actually.....look at some of the comments as anything heartfelt. I feel like most are just trying to be funny or purposely antagonize and I can ignore that quite well. On here I guess I expect more, bcos the kind of people that comment are of a different caliber.
I also think that perhaps bcos of my inabilty to truly root for one person im more aware, than usual, of how the houseguests are being perceived and spoken about. Sometimes we turn on a HG the moment they do...anything. And I know how judgemental I can be with someone else and how sensitive I can be when its ME.
I also find myself looking for whatever trait others see in someone, wondering what im missing. And I dont really like that im doing it. I dont pretend to know who these people really are outside of this house, but im also imperfect in that I take offense to certain things. For that reason, I TRY not to berate a persons behavior other than to say I dont like it. The circumstances the HGs find themselves in, is rather extreme. Im just glad I dont need to vote in anything other than Viewers choice lol.
And I find civility lacking across the board in the times we currently live in. This is the reason I limit my exposure and dont do chat rooms, the live feeds nor do as many comments as I may want to.....I have too many other things to worry about. Thanks for your response!
Very well stated! Totally agree.
Friday night Andy said "I hate her, does that make me a bad person", does anyone know which "her" he was talking about?
This will read like a conspiracy theory. It probably is, I can live with that. It sends to me that the MVP twist, particularly the way it was used seemed to be a ploy to guarantee Elissa stayed safe through to jury. The fact that she could be counted on to win the vote kept her safe for the first few weeks while people wanted to use her to control the nom. This is a predictable response particularly if it is suggested subtly by production, we know they do this sort of thing. Once the MVP was putting a target on her back instead of keeping her safe because people were not trusting how she would use it, they chose that point to make it America's nomination to shift blame. MVP mission accomplished.
Andy....ugh!!! I used to like him.Not any more.
No way! The Brenchel Army will hand it (unreservedly) to Elissa on a silver platter. Unfortunately.
Agreed Jumbo
Friday night Andy said "I hate her, does that make me a bad person", does anyone know which "her" he was talking about?
if elissa were put up instead of anyone else from GM's Alliance then eLissa would go home, Amanda would stay and GM would have no one else and she would go right after elissa also GM is smart to keep elissa till final two because no one else would vote for elissa besides Helen and Candice
:-)
nolegold
Agree 100%! Elissa is an elitiest snob. But I gotta disagree with you on one thing... I think her snobbery is so dismissive and belittling to others that it shows a mentality as crass as anything in the house
Idbell
Probably depends on who he said it to
Alex Leo
Have a nice day. :)
Okay, I have waited all day, Carolyn I am so sorry for what you have to endure for us addicts who love you and this site. That being said, not one person here has had a conversation with any house guest, been in the big brother house, much less had ever single minute of your day recorded and exposed for others to dissect. How can you say that you hate someone when you do not even know them? You may hate their actions, things they say or do, but where all this is coming from is beyond me. If you do not like us on this site, this site, then good heavens don't let the door hit ya on the way out... Carolyn has to endure way more vileness than a person should on any level, so cut it out! P.S., if you love being here hit the tip jar for this great lady... I did at the beginning and will at the end. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}
I guess I don't view the current BB House as solely an "Amada vs Elissa" game.
I think some protagonists on social media are portraying it as such, and many are swept into this as a battle cry.
There are still 7 HG's left, so to focus solely on those two (who both have traits that are huge negatives) seems to be missing the macro environment that is taking place.
Amanda has played great and horrible, all at the same time. Scheme wise, she has set up the house. Yet, having a showmance and undo faith in Andy, has caused her scheming to plummet. She has said mean things, but not even close to the venom Howie or Evel Dick spewed in their temper tantrums (which, all three of those were game/scheme related).
I liked Rachel's game. Elissa's game is horrible in comparison. I just don't understand why the Brenchal Army feverishly pushes Elissa along in the social media. If Elissa had no ties to Rachel, we wouldn't be hearing 10% of the love for her this season.
We'll see how this game plays out, but we aren't going to be left with a "great" winner like Dr. Will, Evel Dick, or Father Dan.
Go Trojans and Roll Tide, I did my first ever rant on here and I lost it in the land of Nod....
leroy Jenkins
I get that GM is protecting Elissa for her game, im just saying the other 3 Exterminators should be super pissed and not trust GM at all
*undeservedly not unreservedly
With Elissa's penchant for listening at doors, I think it would be hysterical if she found out about the Exterminator's and her and McCrae started working together and ended up as final 2.
@nolegold
I guess we are watching different feeds too... I have seen Elissa be mean and vindictive... especially when she 'outed' information about HGs who had had an abortion or miscarriage trying to belittle that person she finds so gross and the worst person in the world. EXCUSE ME, I could have a list of thousands as a person to be worst in the world before I would get to any HG. This is why the adoration and selective hearing as far as Elissa goes bothers many. Elissa has done horrible things to people in the house... but she is not in your face and she talks behind people's backs in general, she has talked down about the whole house to Helen from the start. She has said none of these people are worthy to associate with in real life. I guess she does not hold her sister to the same standard... because Amanda and Rachel are very much alike... and I liked Rachel. Rachel cried when things did not go her way. Rachel had sex on camera and was very loud. Rachel did a lot of things Amanda does.
Neither Amanda nor Elissa deserves an award of decency. Elissa was told private information before the House went on the Live Feeds and she shared that information knowing it would be on the internet forever. Not nice.
I hope they show Amanda talking to us saying who she's going to get GM to put up. Then again when she's up on the block and wondering why it happened to her.
lscott, I'm not defending Elissa at all but I don't think she has heard about 99% of the racist stuff GM has said in the past. GM reserved that wonderful speak for her private convos with Aaryn and Kaitlin etc. GM didn't do that in front of Elissa because she knew she was close to Candice. Every time last week GM was sucking up to Elissa I was just wanting to scream because Elissa has no idea of the racist things she has said. Again, not defending Elissa and some of her actions but on this specific subject I think she can plead ignorance a bit when it comes to the true character of GM.
the only thing lost in the land of nod is me ;)
"I shall allow no man to belittle my soul by making me hate him."
~Booker T. Washington
@Vana The above quote is for you... because your last post was to the point. AMEN from the Agnostic.
Jumbo, they're going to get rid of her regardless, it is an all guys alliance in the end.
Mia Monasdotter
Thank you for your posts. I am letting you speak for me for the rest of the night (which I don't think will be long as Carolyn is starting to do head bobs.)
Put a pillow on the desk Carolyn. I don't want you to get a concussion when you fall asleep at the desk.
I replied to a comment above about this but then I read further and a lot of other people asked the same thing. Let me start off by saying, I'm not defending Elissa and some of her actions and as for her sudden love of the dearly departed Aaryn I do think it's game so GM won't put her up. But as for her "friendship" with GM and why it would happen considering her disdain for racists, GM said most of her horrendous comments in the company of Aaryn and Kaitlin. I don't believe Elissa even knows about 99% of what has come out of GM's mouth in the past. GM was careful not to say that stuff in front of Elissa because of her MVP and knowing how close she was to Candice.
Every time GM sucked up to Elissa last week I wanted to scream because I think she truly doesn't know what kind of person GM is. Aaryn was more "in your face" about it. GM is horrible and will have a lot of explaining to do when she re-enters the real world. Elissa, although some of her actions are uppity and bizarre is not nearly the horrible person that GM is.
Good Afternoon Carolyn and BB Buddy's!
I finally got the Live Feeds via Carolyn's site, so have been enjoying a little catch up in the convo's!
As of this afternoon the Exterminators have agreed that spencer will go up as McCraes replacement nom given his POV win.
GM will not put up Elissa in return of her not putting up GM when she was HOH.
They feel confident that McCrae and Elissa will target each other next week.
@ Jumbo regarding your reply to my morning post... I agree to agree and disagree, while I think Amanda has played a great game (agree) I do not think she is a mastermind (disagree) in that you cant play to a level of mastermind game player and then switch to a socially immature game player, respectfully IMO a true mastermind player does not allow their personal feelings sway them from their ultimate goal as Amanda did.
But what I think played another part to what did under mind her game was having a showmance with McCrae. A power duo is a power duo target.
As I've stated before I do not have a fav in BB.
IMHO if Andy does not get nominated to replace mccrae and does not vote to keep Amanda he cannot win this game if he was to make final 2.
He abandoned Helen and Amanda and everyone who was aligned with them over the course of the game will know what a floater he was.
Nothing would make me happier if he was nominated and somehow Elissa figured out the exterminators and then aligned with Amanda.
Yes a long shot but that is my hope.
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nikanico
I guess with GM it's not specifically the racist comments that have me confused about her friendship with Elissa. GM was involved the night of the bed flipping and she made the comment about Candice's mother. The mother comment crossed a line with Candice that even Aaryn's comments did not cross. Candice made it clear that she would never forgive GM.
Nite nite, everyone :)
Thank you for being a part of the dish!
I think I'm going to take a TRUE Sanity Sunday tomorrow.
Hope to See you here for the Sunday Show Viewing Party at 7:50pm Eastern.
xxoo,
C
I agree, great point!
Another thing I don't get.....everyone makes up lies about what Amanda says (like things she doesn't say at all)to set her up from having trust with alliance member...it started with Howard, then Candice, then Helen, then Aaryn, Elissa and the rest of them...and now GinaMarie! Amanda tells the truth to others about what people acctually said so they would be informed about what is going on or at least clear the air and find out the truth (which is silly cuz everyone lies)....some of you might want to reassess what is all involved with good character....like I still can't stomach Dan from last year....think that is his name, as I have blocked him from my thoughts....
@Grendon
Thanks for the compliment... I am taking myself outside since it has cooled down and am done with the Live Feeds for today... I really have lost interest. Catch up after comps. All this hate and crap in the world (which really matters, unlike a stupid show of Houseguests wanting fame or glory) is really making me depressed.
Goodnight all! Especially to the Queen Bee.
Hallelujah!! Thank you for saying this!! I AGREE 1,000%
I totally agree with you on the "deserves" to be here spiel. I hate that argument.
@mia
I respect your opinion on the matter but Elissa only told people stuff that Amanda actually said. Amanda on the other hand has got way to personal by attacking Elissa's husband and child, not to mention all the hatful things she has made up about others. She has attacked everyone, where as Elissa only repeats things that she hears. I don't like Elissa at all either, but my point in the last comment was just that Elissa is the lesser of the two evils. I loved Amanda at first because for some reason I always pull for the mean people with big personalities (Evil Dick, Dr. Will, Dan, Boogie). What really turned me off of Amanda was her saying vile things about Elissa's husband and child. Children should never ever, ever be brought into this game. That was when I lost all respect for Amanda's game play. I wish she could have stayed classy with her mean girl game. If she would have I guarantee she would have won, but all the other houseguests got feed up with her constant personal attacks and now her game is done. Elissa is not gonna win either because she is sneaky mean, and passive aggressive. The only reason I said I would pull for Elissa is if she wises up to Spencer's game and gets him out, but that also goes for anyone else who figures him out too. I'm pulling for Spencer because he is a wild card and I enjoy not being able to predict what is going to happen, and he is the only one left who could surprise us, in this so far, very predictable season. Spencer for the win!!!! or who ever wises up and evicts him, lol!!! I am so glad that even though some of us agree and disagree on here we all keep it classy and respect each other. I am new to this site because I really got turned off with how the others sites let each other be hateful and bash other commenters. Thank you Carolyn and fellow bbdishers for the wonderful site! It is my new favorite, plus I love how Carolyn doesn't push her personal views in the posts. Lots of love to all, and I'm so glad I found you guys.
Hallelujah!! Thank you for saying this! I 1,000% AGREE!!
Good night.
Sorry sweet lady get tons of rest, take a bike ride and enjoy a meal with your Momma
@Idbell.....Andy was talking about Amanda and yes that does make him a bad person for lying to her face and talking about her behind her back IMHO.
Agree.....I think Elissa is very hypercritical ....just cause she don't scream her insults at you doesn't make her insults and hateful remarks about someone any better than anyone else....she gets under my skin so bad...
Some random thoughts on the HG's left:
McCranda - a team since week 1. He should have been smart enough to avoid the showmance and all the targets it comes with. Be friends and have an alliance, but to get married and even though he said he would cut her at F3, there was no way and the rest saw through it. He also gave up his social game by staying in bed with Amanda most of the day-week-month. Amanda wore the pants in the relationship and it looked like to me he was the Brendon to Amanda's hot headed Rachel. She was playing the game hard but in my mind crossed the line harassing Elissa.
Elissa - I am the king of conspiracy and I think she was only cast to bring the MVP into the game. She flopped back and forth on who was a "horrible person" and unworthy of her presence and conversation. The MVP concept would have been fine without a built in Brenchel army advantage. I personally thought she should have gone week 1 or 2.
GM - Really surprised me how good she is at comps. A super loud person and delusional about Nick but I like her spunk.
Andy - The new Shelly and super floater. I would not mind if he won because the floater covers a lot of bases and has to keep track of a lot of lies and I think it is a viable strategy.
Spencer - I admire his resiliency in being on the block so much. He had to recover from the MC alliance and he has some alliances that could bring him to F2. He is an idiot on national TV asking for viewers to send Pot to him in Arkansas for QA/QC testing.
Judd - My personal favorite. Quite an accomplishment to come back from jury and not be voted out right away. He has made good moves in Part 2 and been lucky that Amanda and Elissa were so focused on each other.
Smokers - It seems like they had a lot this season. I think Judd could have won the POV that Amanda won had he not smoked and had some lung power. I thought 250 points was too many and should have been 150 in the heat.
Hope for Amanda to get out in Part 1 eviction, followed by a Judd or Spencer HOH win with Elissa going out next.
It is also ironic that the boys were dwindling and now control the game. If Elissa had kept to her plan of an all girl F4 or F5 instead of making a war with Aaryn, Kaitlin, GM, Amanda, and Jessie.
Hugs to you, Pam. Not sure of why there is sadness, just felt I should hug you.
Hi, Carolyn!
nnaxor & Big Pink
You're most definitely not alone!! Drives me crazy that Andy is even still there - they blew a HUGE opportunity to ditch his floater arse last week! Judd 2.0 is a big disappointment, too.
Some of us think that laughing at anyone crying is crass and rude. Maybe Americans should hang out in prisons and hospitals and laugh at miserable people there. Reminds me of an early debate in the 2012 Presidential Primary, when the audience cheered for a young person who had not bought health insurance to die.
I'm still believing there are those who are evolving as humans and those who aren't. Enjoying anyone's feeling bad is de-evolving. We don't get to pick the good people who should not suffer, and the bad people who should.
Creeps me out to read how people want to see HGs lose jobs, families, etc. Chats and other websites, not here...thanks to Carolyn.
I really hate Elissa as she plays this game. Spencer too. I get emotional, way too much so. I know. But never for a second do I want them hurt in any way! I want Elissa to go back to her privileged life, her nice family, as soon as possible ;) Same for Spencer, though I want his gf to teach him some enlightened things about the female gender. I don't want them to lose jobs or money--they love the same game I do, after all!
Compared to those who never heard of BB (which includes Elissa before Rachel won it--she never spoke of loving BB until recently--she said she "wanted to work with this network." LOL) we all have more in common with those we dislike on the show than those who never watch at all! If we were seated next to them on a plane, wouldn't we talk with them of our shared love of BB, not whether they sat with their legs together, or thought GM and Aaryn were disgusting under the stress of a live tv show?
@BigPink, I agree with your post on Amanda and Elissa.
@Jumbo, GM needs to put up Elissa.
@Simplyme, the laughing that pushed Amanda's buttons was when Elissa continued to walk by McCranda's room and laughed and when Amanda was just trying to talk and was crying to her in the HOH room and Elissa was just laughing. I think ALL of these HG's have faults. Not just Amanda. McCrea has done nothing but sleep all season, Andy is a liar, Spencer is a crude male chauvinist, Judd has been shady (that is why they evicted him), Elissa is far from perfect she has judged everyone from day one, has made rude/snide remarks to other HG's, and diagnosed every HG as Bi-Polar, also if Elissa can't get past the racist remarks why is she with GM and "misses" Aaryn who she hates so much she didn't even want to sit by them? and then there is GM every other word is an F bomb and she has started to lie. I honestly have no idea who I would pick to win. However I am leaning towards GM.
@Mia Monasdotter, I agree
@nnaxor, I agree.
Carolyn, may I suggest a Like button? Thank you for the updates. :)
What surprises me that no one has mentioned GM and her comments floored me about what kind of person says stuff ~ wow has she gotten amnesia like Aaryn and all the nasty stuff she says and still says..is that right? Now she is HOH she is playing the princess part all high and mighty ~ she has a filthy mouth than Amanda ~ who tells a person that is adopted that her Mom didnt want her ~ that is truly disgusting and she has a trash mouth ~ please lets not brush all of GM's comments under the rug cuz she is not better than Amanda or Aaryn in my opinion
elissa is the most stuck up witch lol and she does look like the joker,i see all these comments about how horrible amanda was to elissa, but doesnt anyone remember mccraes birthday? when amanda was doing a dance or whatever for mccrae? elissa didnt even have to be there but kept commenting on how ''nasty and disgusting'' amanda was really putting her down on a personal level...i hate elissa the only thing nice about her is her butt... and whats with the constant duckface? she thinks shes better than everyone and is just a waste to watch on tv
This is sad, but I enjoy going back over and over to read about Amanda trying to get GM to put Elssa up. Her tears make me snicker only because she enjoyed making others cry.
most comments i see are about how rude amanda was to elissa, but doesnt anyone remember mccraes birthday? when amanda was doing a dance for him? elissa didnt even have to be there but kept commenting about how ''nasty and disgusting'' amanda was really attacking her on a personal level...i hate elissa she is a stuck up witch lol and she does look like the joker.. the only nice thing about her is her butt.. and seriously whats up with the constant duckface??? its like shes 15 on instagram... if shes not badmouthing people she doesnt make any sense at all, shes just a waste of tv space and is always cheating in comps, she just needs to go
He said it about Elissa ... Spencer made a joke about candaces confetti chicken and she started telling them not to talk bad about her friend and walked away... and that is when Andy said it. He said " I think I hate her "
He was talking about Elissa
11:30pm bbt CAM 3/4 then switches to 1/2
Funny....funny....they all play a card game and Andy receives the "loser punishment". He has to wear a skin tight dress, a pink tutu and GM's meow meow hat for one hour and every time production says something he has to get up and do a little dance and say things like "I'm a pretty little princess". I'm thinking production is loving it because they keep cutting the feeds. The whole house laughing at one time is rare these days.
12:30am bbt CAM 3
If you only watch 2 minutes of flashback go to this moment and listen to what BB says and then watch Andy....he's a pretty princess!
I just have to share... even when I try to not think about BB and focus on real life - I am interrupted. It's about a post from a previous day and conspiracy theories.
Driving south on PCH from Malibu this evening I turned on the radio and moved the dial around. I ended up on "Coast to Coast", an overnight (It was about midnight) AM radio program with millions of listeners. It was muggy and hot here so while I thought about earth quake weather the show had a guest on talking about the other 9/11 suspects, and they were not talking about UFOs but Americans in our Government taking over America for the new world order. Not kidding. There are all kinds of people 'out there'. And now I hear the X-Files theme in my head which is totally dating me. LMAO. Guess what 2 Houseguests came to mind? As I said... hard to not be reminded of these fools. :-)
This is NOT John Martin. This is GaYToR !
Eeeek!!!! My network adapter may have died and if it did I have no idea when I will be back. I was watching fun time on the feeds with everyone being friendly when suddenly shortly after Midnight BBT the feeds froze. I hit refresh and it told me I have no network connection.
I ran to the bedroom in a panic screaming and throwing on light switches as I approached. I scared the living daylights out of Danny but he needed a good scare anyway so not a problem.
But there was no problem with the blinking and colorful lights of the modem and router either. I rebooted them anyway just to make sure. Then I panicked and probably soiled myself. I haven't checked.
So with many attempts at doing the things I know to do, I gave it all I had but all for naught. I am still not connecting. I will never give up and if I must I will call tech support, but not until I have repeated every step at least 26 times. I'm stubborn that way for I am a man and that's the way we do things.
What I won't do is try to watch the Sunday Show and comment from this phone. My left thumb can only go so fast. Which I only now realized the problem is definitely not with the wireless router because the phone is connected fine.
So, I will be reading but rarely commenting until things are fixed. Carolyn is the lucky one because I was ready to go on a rant that would have lasted well into next week. I already had it planned to take each remaining HG and analyze them to near death. Amanda and Elissa don't deserve our total ire. There are plenty of things to rag on about each of them. Oh well, that will have to keep for now.
Before Midnight BBT
Everyone is getting along while drunk and playing cards around the table. Yes, everyone. 7 chairs and 7 bodies all laughing and having a good time as they are playing "Screw Your Neighbor". Such an appropriate game.
The loser of each round has to do something strange. I'm not exactly clear on that part but everyone needs to FB to when Andy loses the first round and has to wear some drag. I won't describe it because everyone needs the shock value of watching him get dressed in his attire. I venture to say it wasn't his first time but he needs to learn to tuck. Someone thought he had an erection but I assure you he didn't. I'd venture to say Little Andy is a BIG boy.
Happy Sanity Sunday for all who are.
:o)
GaYToR
People's favorite little bigot at work again... She's like a broken clock... You can expect results now and then.
GinaMarie: "Nobody is going to recognize Helen because all Chinese people look alike". 3.02 am. 9/1/13
In my perfect Amanda Stays World .......... :) :)
Maybe just maybe they will see one of the others faults like Andy and see he is all of the place or Elisse messes up with GM and the vote that person out instead of Amanda !!!!! Hey anyone can dream and wish its BB after all......... I will be said to see her go I have been an Amanda Fan since day 1.
At least my guy pick is in it still and hopefully he survives double evict and kicks butt .......I was truly hoping for a couple at the end since its never been done............
I miss everyone in BBDish feed chat room but I cant even be there right now with Amanda on the block its breaks my heart the way people are treating one another in that room just cause you like a certain a player :(
Thanks again for all you do for us Carolyn <3
Part 1 of 2
Woohoo!!! Humpty "GaYToR" Dumpty put himself back together again, and it was so simple. I accidentally hit the Wireless Adapter button on my F3 key. That turned it off.
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At first, I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinking, I could never live without you by my side
But then I spent so many nights thinking, how you did me wrong
And I grew strong and I learned how to get along
And so you're back from outer space
I just walked in to find you here with that sad look upon your face
I should have changed that stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
Go on now, go, walk out the door, just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one, who tried to hurt me with goodbye?
Did you think I'd crumble? Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh, no, not I, I will survive
Oh, as long as I know how to love, I know I'll stay alive
I've got all my life to live, I've got all my love to give
And I'll survive, I will survive, hey, hey
It took all the strength I had not to fall apart
Kept trying hard to mend the pieces of my broken heart
And I spent, oh, so many nights just feeling sorry for myself
I used to cry but now I hold my head up high
....
(after that my lyrics change drastically and I use props that are NSFBBDish :-p. If you want to know, ASK. hehe.)
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So I am going back to see more of the card game and Andy in and out of his tutu. Remember, to see it start somewhere before Midnight BBT
:o)
GaYToR
Part 2 of 3
I am hearing from feed chat that GM got extremely racist again tonight. I'm sad because I was really wanting to like her. Once I hear it as I'm about to do, I'm afraid my like for GM will be gone all over again.
This started at approximately 2:54 AM BBT acording to los1 in the Dish Feeds chatroom and verified by a couple of others still up at the time.
My last look into live feeds was of GM clipping her toenails in bed and changing some bandages or something.
OK. I listened from 2:54 until they were all saying they were ready for bed and I really wish I could transcribe this for everyone because I believe Carolyn said she is taking a True Sanity Sunday which I believe means no TOR. We won't see Carolyn until 10 minutes before the show tonight and she certainly deserves it after the stress she has been dealing with from this disaster of a season.
Yes GM made several racist comments about Helen in particular but I think I heard a couple of things about Candice too. But I have to add that Amanda was right there next to her, egging her on to say whatever. I saw it as Amanda feeding her thoughts knowing where GM would take them.
There were 6 people out on that sofa, everyone but Elissa who had already turned in for the night. Absolutely no one was safe from the nastiness except the Gang of Six who were present for the bash fest. That included both current and previous season cast members. A lot about Porche and at least one question about if Steven Daigle had really done porn, which we know he did and as Seinfeld would say, not that there is anything wrong with that is my reply. His body, his business. I haven't seen any of his work but I've followed him and many of his co-stars on Twitter and what they do for a living is no reflection of who they are. That's my opinion and everyone knows I have a live and let live attitude when it comes to judgments.
Everyone has to answer to a higher power eventually, but no one needs my forgiveness just as I need no one's forgiveness but that of my own higher power. I use generic language in this manner because the last thing we need, and Carolyn wouldn't tolerate it anyway, is a radical religious fight in the Dish. I am comfortable with what I believe as I hope everyone here is comfortable with their beliefs. While I love serious discussions on religion, politics, current issues and just about anything else, BBDish.blogspot.com is not now nor will ever be the place for it. If I actually do get around to starting my own blog, as I am trying my best to do, I would welcome one and all and with one rule, strictly enforced. Be kind to one another. If you get too heated and insult the intelligence of others or say hurtful things to them, you will not be welcome and I know how to block even if I have to get something like an eggdrop bot (which is only used in IRC. I have run several IRC channels in the past and still have retained enough MS-DOS Commands to set up another) to help me enforce it.
;-)
But that is for another time. I hope to get my blog off the ground at least before the end of BB S15. I have mucho lotsa work to do.
So. I have hopefully given you enough information about 2:54 AM BBT to stir your interest in some flashback since it seems if things stay the same, the feeds are going to become extremely boring as everyone tries to make nice. I have no idea how long it will last. Amanda is still pushing for Elissa as McRae's replacement nom but pretending it is in jest and in passing she brings it up near the end of 2:54 again.
I think it would be absolutely hilarious if GM would actually nominate her as Amanda is asking, but still see Amanda out the door to meet Julie first on Thursday night. I almost trust the Exterminators enough to do it but it's a long way to Thursday and just over 24 hours to PoV Ceremony.
:o)
GaYToR
Part 3 of 3 (Yes, Part 1 said 'of 2'. I had no idea I would still be over the character limit. HA!
I have no idea if I covered all my points. I'm going to hit Preview first but I can't guarantee I will catch any errors, spelling or otherwise I may have made. I may be back to ramble during the day. I just hope I find other subjects so I don't show my signs of dementia repeating myself.
Consider yourselves foreskined... OOPS... I mean forewarned.
:o)
GaYToR
Exactly!! And LOL about McCrae. Too little too late? Nah...they're guys and besides he will come off as calm and loyal. McCrae IN / Andy out.
Grendon I saw your comment somewhere about knowing if I were here I would have twisted your comment about nudity. I'm so tired I am seeing triple right now and everything has a blueish tint to it. (Hmmm. Could that be the Viagra 100 mg's? Yes, that is plural. It's Southern Decadence.) so I can't go back to find the exact quote but I loved it.
You (and everyone here) know me too well. I feel 'preDICKtable' now. I may have to come up with a few new angles for the next season. I think it's too late to try to change for this season... less than 3 weeks to go and I think this year we are all ready for it to be over. I know Carolyn has to be. We can't even fathom what she goes through every day to keep us happy and to keep the family intact. I know her halo is in transit as we type.
:o)
GaYToR
Good morning! Carolyn, I'm sure to get got as it's almost time for a TOR post, but reading the comments got me thinking about a potential poll post for you! Given the rapid creation of alliances in this house, what would be people's dream two-person alliance to see form here in the end game? I am not rooting for anyone, just wondering what pairing would be interesting to watch or not be guessed by the rest of the group, along the lines of Dan + Frank.
ellisas good points! she does what she wants! she doesn't engage amanda
I also feel a lot of the negativity coming fro. the house is b. she has a rich life. my apply are so jealous that they always have to put that kind of person down. the girls due to sgear jealousy. the Boys due to feeling less than Cu's she wouldn't look twice at them. did I say Bc of her nice clothes and exspensive extentions. apply can try to cover up their jealousy but I assure u. its jealousy
Any reminds me of the butler in "Mr. Deeds". Poof, he appears out of nowhere.
I really want Amanda evicted and see if MCCrae's got game with out her.
Yeah the comment about her mother was shocking. My mother was adopted in a closed adoption, I don't even know half of my nationality (the other half of me is Italian which is why GM and her behavior bother me so much). That's a good point though. Maybe Elissa's morals only extend to racism and not to cruelly attacking someone at the deepest level of abandonment issues they could possibly have. They both are pieces of work. The only good thing I've gotten out of watching either of them do anything is I've started doing yoga again because of Elissa's abs....hahahaha
Hope ur having a great sanity Sunday Carolyn!!! Thank u sooo much for blogging!!!!! Xoxo
I am a feed addict and I find the characterization of Elissa to be completely false. If elitism and snobbishness means cooking for everyone, cleaning up after them day and night, haircuts, helping GM stretch her back, sitting with Candice night after night, and trying to get the idea of diversity to GM then those are actually characteristics I admire.
On the flip side, Amanda led the bashing every night with everything from hopes of rape to others, odd things about bodily secretions put into Elissa's eyes, jokes about slitting throats, lies about Elissa's family, including children, and the list goes on. Even last night her grabbing the wine and drinking from the bottle showed exactly what she is about, an entitled, hateful woman eaten up by jealousy of others. Where was this great game of hers? Almost every one of her conspiracy theories has been wrong, and as soon as the info from Andy dried up and their comp queen was evicted her game fell to pieces. Her biggest complaint about Elissa? She said it last night, that Elissa has a mind. And won't simply carry her along as the others have done. Again, where is the game in that?
$$Cha$Ching$$. Deposits hit early. Now you can buy a postcard of a beautiful Tropical Paradise. Wait. You already live there. Well I'm sure you will find some use for it.
HugZ
GaYToR
Unless something drastically changes, and it is BB so something might, it appears that Amanda will be getting evicted this Thursday.
When thinking about Amanda's game play... it was great up until last week. If last week hadn't happened and I were a juror she would have had my vote for the money against anyone left in the game. Even Judd who I adore and have been rooting for the entire time.
Prior to last week I saw her as very bossy but not a bully. Last week she tried the bully move as a game strategy (in my opinion it was the move that ruined her game). I have always despised the bully strategy (I was never a fan of Evil Dick, Russell, or Howie). But back to Amanda's use of the strategy and why I think it cost her the game. She spent all of last week putting so much energy in trying to get Elissa to put up GM (so they could evict GM and keep Aaryn)that she stopped thinking about her own game and how it would move forward. She has had great intuition up until this point. She still doesn't seem to realize that even if Elissa is sitting next to her that all of those people would vote her out this week. While she was putting her energy into getting GM evicted last week, Elissa was giving her energy into becoming friends with GM and protecting her.
The boys were also working GM last week promising her their loyalty in return for hers.
So Amanda's attempts at promising GM loyalty and her continually telling GM how to play the game (she has repeatedly told GM this is the time she could be making deals with people)has come to late. GM already made her deals last week. Amanda just doesn't see it.
She outplayed everyone throughout the season without winning comps, but the truth is that this week everyone outplayed her these last two weeks.
I've read some comments about how people think GM is going against her alliance by not putting up Elissa. Not true. There's been many times that alliances have put up one of their own in Big Brother. It is a strategy. If you've been watching the live feeds you'll see that the alliance is on board with GM putting up Spencer (they played rock/paper/scissor to see which of them would go up). And moving forward the boys are even saying that in a double eviction if one of them wins HOH they can't put up Elissa next to McCrae that they would have to put one of the Exterminators up next to McCrae and then if McCrae wins POV they would put Elissa up and evict her.
When are you planning to do the overnight report and when is the VETO ceremony???
I now realize that a lot of what Ayran and GM said was not even heard by most of the HG's. Its hard to remember that just because we heard it,doesnt mean they heard it.I feel bad because I feel like Carolyn has lost interest with transcribing because they're so awful.I so look forward to reading her blog...but I can understand the burn out.
Adam is a perfect example of "anyone can win this game". To me ,by far,the best save EVER was 'Dans funeral'....JMHO
Brittany Hawkins
Overnight report will be up around 6CT am. Veto ceremony will be a couple hours later
Diana64
GM is going against her alliance. The boys feel safe enough to let it go, but thats their decision. I understand GM is doing it to play both sides, the bous should too
Alexandra
I dont have the feeds, but I see enough of Elissa on AfterDark, and know how glaringly accurate Carolyn's updates are to feel comfortable with what I think about Elissa. Cooking a meal and respecting fellow humans are two different things
Marianne
It could be jealousy, or it could be that she has a God complex and looks down on people that dont marry for money
BeeBelle
Spencer and GM
I too like Amanda. I identify with her the most. While she says inappropriate things sometimes, I appreciate the way she's steered the game in her favor most of the time. I think Amanda is deeply insecure. This is why I don't like Elissa. I found it deeply disturbing the way she acted during McCrae's birthday celebration. It was underhanded and mean in such a subtle way. Amanda is crass, but you can see how she cares about the others in little things she's done one on one. Elissa doesn't care one iota about anyone. I also don't like Spencer at all. He creeps me out in a way that would have me carrying my mace in my hand if I met him alone in a parking lot. Red flags all over that guy. JMO all the way around.
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