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Sunday, August 31, 2014

The Overnight Report

Good morning, BB Lovers!  Happy (Holy Crap I've Never Needed a) Sanity Sunday (MORE) to you! ;-)

As outraged, offended and hurt as I was by what happened yesterday, in order to keep on doing what I do here on BBDish, I must take a deep breath, perhaps more than one, and begin anew, clean slate style.  And keep reminding myself to keep on doing that, until it feels genuine.  OK?  Thank you for your support.

In my rush to get as far away as fast as I could after the PoV Spoiler yesterday, I missed this adorable detail:

As 1st out of the PoV Comp, Cody will be in a Dinosaur Costume for the next little while.

Move over Barney.. I'll take one of these!☺

OK.. Let's begin!  The HGs got booze last night, and Cody got smashed..  We'll get to that in just a sec.  First, the early evening maneuvering for Final 3.

For those of you hoping Caleb will backdoor Frankie this week, there's a conversation between Caleb, Christine and Cody at 6:30pm, Saturday August 30th, on Camera 3 and 4 you'll want to flashback.  Here's a blip:

Caleb: Frankie's really starting to bother me.  He's starting to scheme a lot..
Christine: Yeah.
Caleb: ..and it's like,when has any of us ever worried about Victoria?  He was hopin' to get picked so that he could know for sure he could ensure his safety.
Christine: Yeah, exactly.
Cody: Because he knows he's the only one out of all of us that's talking. That's why.
Caleb: Frankie's the only one flyin' off the hinge.

Caleb continues to say that Frankie has repeatedly thrown him under the bus..

In a lengthy conversation at 9:03pm on Camera 3, Frankie is pushing for a Frankie, Derrick, Caleb final 3 to Derrick, saying that no one beats Cody at Final 2.  And Derrick is more subtly pushing for a final 3 that includes Cody, saying that Caleb doesn't have much blood on his hands. 

Frankie: Look where we are.  We've been in control every single week.  And the missions we've succeeded have been beautifully executed.  Flawless.

Derrick: When I saw you, Caleb and Christine smokin' it, I was like, I'm not beatin' any of them.  What am I doin?  The only thing I was hesitant was the punishment, and when he said it was that, I was like, ok..
Frankie: It's amazing.. First season ever a prize comes with a punishment.
Derrick:Yeah, I will say that they went light on the punishment.  It's fun..
Frankie: "Can I get a Holla?!"  "Dadbot"
Derrick: I wish it would say all of our names.

Moving along..

Frankie: Caleb's getting super paranoid.  He keeps being like, "You know, man, it's gettin' to that point in the game where I don't know if anyone who says they're gonna take me is gonna take me.  I'm a beast in this game, and I'm gonna be hard to beat.  I feel like somebody's gonna make a move.."   He's talking about Christine, but he's not just saying her name, which is annoying. 
Derrick:  mm hmm
Frankie: Cuz I'm looking at him, and I'm like, ok.. I keep telling him, you need to stop saying shit like that, because I don't think people think of you as a big target.  I didn't tell him this. But like, i don't see him as unbeatable, in any way, shape or form.
Derrick: I think Caleb, honestly, my opinion of him, I think he's played a very respectable game.  Like, he doesn't have much blood on his hands.  Even though he's put people on the block.  Does that make sense? 

Frankie: Yeah.. He's thrown competitions, He whines about not throwing competitions, He goes for the money over the HoH..
Derrick: He's only won 3 comps.  He has won some big comps though.
Frankie: He's won some important comps.
Derrick: But I do think there are people.. It all depends on the jury. 

Talking about the final 3 HoH, Frankie says he'll beat Caleb in everything.

Derrick:  I think Caleb's a big dog in this house.. I think Cody's a beast too.
Frankie: I think that any of us sitting next to Cody would lose.
Derrick: Kid's an animal.
Frankie: I think that either of us sitting next to Caleb, we'd have a fighting shot.
**I think the likelihood of Frankie making it into Final 3 is pretty slim..
Derrick: It'd be a battle though, because he's the type of kid where you can't tell me who would vote for him and who wouldn't. 
Frankie: Right.
Derrick: Cuz honestly, maybe Donny votes for him.. and if he does, Hayden and Nicole are too.  Those 3 are voting as a group.  I believe that. I truly believe that. 
Frankie:  I can't wait to see that jury house.. Donny walks in, then f'in Nicole walks in.  Ahh!
Derrick: yup.
Frankie:  It's gonna be.. ahh! I can't wait to watch that. We're diabolical.  We are!
Derrick: They're gonna be like, wtf?
Frankie: It's wonderful!  And then Victoria.. right after.

Skipping ahead a bit..


Derrick:  Look at Dan.  He played a better game, and he lost.
Frankie: ..because I'm the evil person.  I am.  I'm dripping with blood.
Derrick: In a perfect world, for you to guarantee yourself a win, you'd have to be up there like next to Victoria.
Frankie: The only person I did not have a hand in sending home?  Was Donny.
Derrick: Right.  It was kind of like a necessary evil.
Frankie: The only person.
Derrick: It was kind of a necessary evil.  And we could have saved him if we wanted to, but it would have ruined our game..
Frankie:  yup
Derrick: ..cuz we could've voted the other way.
Frankie: And Caleb would have gone with us. 
Derrick:  Yup.  And.. it would've ruined this cohesiveness right now, so.. It wasn't a smart move.

Frankie: No.

Moving along to the coming week..

Derrick:  We'll have Victoria, and it's gonna be one of us winning HoH - Christine, you, me, Caleb or Cody, and that's game time..
Frankie: Put up Victoria.  Victoria goes home.
Derrick:  Right.
**I'll believe it when I see it. 

Derrick: And then it's game-time.  Then it's only 5 of us.
Frankie: Would you put up Christine?
Derrick:   Honestly, I'd have to talk to you. You have a better perspective on what's going on in the house than me.
Frankie: The only reason that I wouldn't is to earn her trust.
Derrick: You definitely have a better grasp on everybody.  If I won HoH, I would pull you aside first, so I could get an idea of where it's gonna go or where it should go, then have the group meeting.  Once Nicole's gone, and then Victoria, who's gonna go up next to her?
Frankie: That's what I'm saying.
Derrick:  I don't know.  If Christine won, who do you think she'd put up next to her?
Frankie: Caleb.
Derrick: Maybe me too though?
Frankie: I don't think she has a reason to.  I don't think she'd put up me or Cody...
Derrick:  No.  That's what I'm saying.

Frankie:  If I won and put her up, she might come after me.. but then there's only 1 week left and  everyone's coming after me anyway..
Derrick: Correct.
**most honest word to escape Derrick's lips in this convo.

Derrick:  Well, you said it yourself.  We're playin' Big Brother.  It's time.  We just gotta get there first and.. (whispers) We're basically there.
Frankie:  I hope they put in me saying, "This is Big Brother, not Big Best Friend."

Derrick: Yeah. This week is in the books.  Done.  Double evict.  Done. 
Frankie: It's just nice not having to worry about conniving and plotting for a little while.  Obviously people are going to start having these individual conversations..
Derrick: Are there any suggestions you have for me?  To make myself better in this game?
**hehehehehehe.. OK.. That's a very cute little ego feed..  It's at 9:22pm on Cam 4, if you'd lilke to check it out on flashback.  Let's move forward into the night.

9:41pm --The HGs get sent inside, due to another fan on a bullhorn..I don't think any of them could hear what was being said, and I couldn't either. 

Cam 1
HoH Room
Derrick, Caleb, Frankie, Cody

Derrick: You're f'in smashed, Calzone! You're good.
Caleb: Me?  I'm gravy.
Derrick: You'r ridin' it.  He is smashed. Wow, Calzone..
Cody: Shut up, bitch.
Derrick: (cracking up)
Frankie: He's wasted.. I like it!
Caleb: Calzone's gonna wake up with his butt hole hurtin.
Derrick: It's on video, bro.  You're gonna see it.  Smashed!

Caleb: Calzone's gonna wake up with his butt hurtin..
**they and we heard you the first time. we just all chose to ignore you.
Derrick: nah..
Cody: No, you're sleepin' upstairs.
Derrick: Heheheheh!
Frankie: Nooo.. I'm gonna wake up with my butt hurting.
Caleb: Dude, not only are your eyes jacked up, your dino eyes are too.
Cody: (slurring) Call me to the DR.
Caleb: Hahaha!

Camera 1

Moving ahead an hour, Christine seems to be rather desperately trying to pull focus by suggestively licking her spoon..
...but Frody are still snuggling. 

And who thinks he's being sly under the table where no one can possibly see?

**I'm having Zankie flashback, and I want to somehow warn Cody that Frankie is a Black Widow Spider.

Camera 3
Derrick and (tipsy) Victoria

Victoria: Are they holding it against me that I'm nice to her?
Derrick: Here you go again..
Victoria: I'm frigging tipsy.. Ok.. they were just making a joke?

She gets sidetracked by food and tidying for a minute.  Then onto Nicole..

Victoria: Shoot, she's having a nervous breakdown.
Derrick: You think so?
Victoria:  I feel really bad. Just not a mean..
Derrick: It's a game though.. (whispers)  and you want them saying that, because that means whoever goes on the block next to her, they know they're safe.
Victoria: I know it's me.  I know it.  But.. (whispers) Maybe I can talk him into not putting me up.
Derrick: Huh? I doubt it.
Victoria: I know he's putting me up, because he doesn't want to get any blood on his hands.
Derrick: So who are you gonna try to convince him to put up?  You're just gonna make a bigger target on your back.  If you go up there and say put Frankie up, and Frankie gets wind of it, he's gonna want to send you home.  
Victoria: I don't know..
Derrick: Just be careful.  You don't wanna become the target. There's a zero percent chance of you going home.  Everybody wants Nicole gone.

Sage advice, and although this conversation continues, that's the crux.

Camera 3 and 4
Have Not Room
Derrick and Victoria

Derrick: This week's in the books.  I'm pretty sure next week's a double eviction.  If it is, we gotta win, secure our own fate.  Then onto the next week.
**hmm.. When Derrick uses the words "Win and secure your own fate," it makes me wonder if he is ready to cut Victoria loose..

Derrick: That's really all we can do.  Play hard.  Hope you win.  If you don't, know you played your hardest.  Right?
Victoria: (very softly) yeah.
Derrick: Whatever's meant to happen will happen.  That's all you can do.

Camera 4
Derrick and Christine

Nicole has been in the DR a very long time, and the HGs are getting concerned.

Derrick: This is weird.  Like really weird.  I mean, legit she's been in there since right after 12, and it's like almost 2 o clock now..
Christine: Yeah..

Nicole and Victoria

Fresh from the DR, Nicole joins Victoria at the kitchen counter to talk about the other HGs.  Derrick hung the moon.  Cody, they're not so impressed with..

Victoria: I mean Cody's frikkin touching all day long a married girl.
Nicole: I was thinking he's married.
Victoria: No.  I don't think so at all.  I don't think there's a possibility.  I think he's a very insecure guy.. and he just flirts with Christine because..
Nicole: He knows she can't turn him down.
Victoria: He knows there's no hope - she's already taken.  That's what I think.
Nicole: Yup.  And she laughs at everything he says.
Victoria: mm hmm.  She gives him the attention..
Nicole: yes
Victoria: That any other girl wouldn't.  I don't think 90% of the things he says are funny.
Nicole: 95.

Nicole and Victoria are the only ones up and talking..

Have Not Room
Nicole and Derrick
Cam 4

Derrick: How you doin', ok?
Nicole: Yeah..  I am actually.
Derrick: Good.
Nicole: Thanks for caring.
Derrick: I'm pissed you heard my shout out tonight, and I didn't.
Nicole:  Yeah, I don't know what it said though.  They said your name repeatedly.
Derrick: Multiple times?
Nicole:  Like 2 or 3..  (kidding?)  I think it said, "Save Nicole."

And this, dear dishers, concludes the overnight report.  Thank you for being here.



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August 31, 2014 at 5:14 AM  
Blogger pickedonalways said...

I was looking at tweets while watching live feeds OMG!! there is a tweet from Hec @Hec718 that posted about 5 hours ago Frankie has his hand up Derricks shorts by his genitals!!! this is disgusting behavior and BB needs to put Frankie out of the house immediately!!!

here is the link #BB16 #BBLF pic.twitter.com/uBgki3Gbk

Carolyn I'm hoping that you might know if there is a way for CBS/BB to do something about this as Frankie has crossed a line that should never have been crossed

after reading about Frankie's rape comments I was so worried for Victoria but apparently I should have been more worried for Derrick.

I was away from the live feeds when all this went down for which I am very thankful. I don't know if Derrick was awake or asleep but it was still very, very wrong for Frankie to do such a thing!!

have any fellow dishers seen this either on the live feeds or on twitter? are you as appalled and as disgusted as I am?? this is no longer entertaining and CBS/BB should get Frankie out of the BB house immediately!! what he did is tantamount to rape and should not be tolerated!!!

August 31, 2014 at 5:27 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Good morning.
I really thought that Derrick, in his long convo with Caleb, was trying to set up a backdoor of Frankie. Now it looks like he was just plowing ground for future planting. They need to look out, with Christine and Frankie still in the game they could all be well out of it. I think those two are the most dangerous players, competition wise, left in the house. It is now apparent, to me, that Christine had been quietly throwing competitions the whole season. That would be the basis of my argument to Caleb to get him to put up Frankie, I’m not sure that Derrick has considered that yet. Well they have all day to think about such things.
As to the nasty incident, I can’t imagine how it affects you, and I’m sorry that you had to put up with it. My thoughts on the individuals.
Frankie, IMO, is a nasty piece of work. He would applaud, and laugh, at such an incident. Then go make a self-serving video about rape and sell anti-rape T-shirts, then pat himself on the back for how caring he is.
Caleb, IMO, suffers from very low self-esteem. I think he is playing a stereotypical part that he has in his mind on how he is supposed to act. I don’t think he is mean or cruel and I don’t believe he would ever act on such things, but he would talk like he would.
Cody, is pretty, basically a nice kid, but not a lot of guts. He follows and regrets. He, at least, knows when he is morally wrong.
Derrick, has his eye on the prize. He will swallow his displeasure and continue on his course. Like any good cop he knows when to be strong and assertive and when to sit back and let things run their course.
Frankie and Caleb will, in a day, forget that the incident ever happened. Cody may take a couple of days. Of the guys involved it will stick with Derrick the longest.
For many of us observers it may be the incident that marks the season.

Peace and hugs to you.

August 31, 2014 at 5:42 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Good morning Carolyn

So now Frankie is taking credit for coining the phrase "This is Big Brother, not big best friend." Sorry Frankie. That comment has been used many times by many players.

It seems I may have offended someone yesterday by comparing what Frankie said to past HGs. I will risk explaining and hope not to get in more hot water.

To begin with, I was not comparing the specific statement. What Frankie said and everyone else encouraged was disgusting. I just meant to say that there was no point in expecting production to step in because
vile disgusting things have been said in the past and no one was reprimanded.

In terms of what Frankie said being different because it was a threat of harm, that is a slippery slope.

Most of the time, the person being talked about doesn't realize it. The people who suffer the most are the family members. That was what I meant when I compared it to things that had been said in the past. There have been some nasty, vile, hateful and hurtful comments made about certain HGs in past seasons. If I was a parent sitting at home hearing those things it would damage my soul. But no one who made any of those comments was ever called into the DR and reprimanded or given a warning.

In terms of production viewing it as a threat of physical violence, I don't think they would look at it that way. They see it as just another in a long list of nasty comments made behind the person's back. I don't think they would consider it as a serious threat to Victoria's safety because talking about doing something is not the same as actually doing something.

To production, it is no different than other threats of violence that have been made this season or any other season. Even when the words did come dangerously close to action, production did not step in.

Season 13, Porsche and Shelley talked of tripping Rachel on the stairs so they could 'give her an abortion.' (Rachel thought there was a possibility that she was pregnant.) I remember being more outraged than I had ever been regarding this game.

Two years ago, a few of the HGs (MOSTLY
Janelle) pushed, poked, prodded, encouraged, egged on and challenged Joe to get in Willie's face. They knew Willie was on the edge and they wanted to push him over. It worked, but production did not step in until after the fact. Their way of handling it was to expel Willie. No one else got reprimanded, got a warning, had their stipend docked...nothing. It was pointed out that the rule book states that instigating physical fights or violence IS against the rules, but Willie was the only one punished.

So, in my long and roundabout explanation I just wanted to say this.

Production will not get involved. They never have, they never will. And, I apologize to littlewalton and anyone else I may have offended. I do not take Frankie's comments lightly. They are completely unrelated to game. I do not feel that Victoria is, or ever was in physical danger. That does not take away the hurtful nature of the comments. But no one is hurt more than the family of the person being talked about and the person themself, once they go home and find out what was said. That's the comparison that I was making to years past. There have been many things I have heard over the years that I never could have forgotten or forgiven.

August 31, 2014 at 5:46 AM  
Blogger Lucky13 said...

Good morning Carolyn!! Good morning BBDish friends!!

I'm just getting over to the Dish, ready to catch up on some reading, looking for some good news and.... I scroll down to see Christine has won the POV. Whyyyyyyyyyy?????????? I am so ready for her to GO!!! Okay so, my only hope for this week now is for the guys to slice her in the DE. Unless her annoying luck wins her HOH... Okay, let's not put that in the atmosphere!! Gee whiz...

Okay back to reading. (Just had to release my frustration among friends). Have a great day everyone!!!

August 31, 2014 at 6:26 AM  
Blogger cynthia said...

g'morning, Carolyn!

as always, thanks for TOR! see you @ The Party tonight!

August 31, 2014 at 7:23 AM  
Blogger Mappy said...

Talk about taking a bullet!!!

The feeds were vile in many ways and I feel bad that anyone had to witness them, let alone relive in order to post. Thank you Carolyn!

I want Frankie out no matter the cost of the game to the others in the house. He is a mean person. *using 'mean' although thinking of many other words*

From what I gather about the POV competition... it involved colors and Cody is color blind. Wouldn't that be as much of an obstacle as Frankie's supposed illness?

Yeah. Production, after 15 seasons, this being the 16th, continue to be inept except where they change the rules to achieve their goal. You have to be crazy to want to be in this house thinking you are playing a clean game when BigBrother is ready to pull the rug out from under you.

Signed: Losing Hope

August 31, 2014 at 8:16 AM  
Blogger irishEYEEEs said...

I've been away all weekend and am now catching up. The whole thing with Frankie ( and anyone in that room) has made me sick to my stomach. They have a youtube video of it also and it has over 18,000 hits as of now. Some people are demanding for Frankie to be evicted. So others are saying they are writing CBS and going to send the video to TMZ. I wonder what would happen to CBS golden boy if TMZ runs with this story? I wonder why Nicole was in DR for two hours. Maybe telling her she's safe and someone is going to be evicted? We can only pray. I felt so filthy just watching the video and there are no ifs, ands or buts about it, Franke not so grande must be evicted!
I hope you have a wonderful Sunday Caro and fellow dishers, I need to go take a shower and put some beautiful music on to sooth my soul right now. Xo E

August 31, 2014 at 8:29 AM  
Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

Good morning, Everyone! :-)

Happy Sanity Sunday to you, and again, thank you for being here and thank you for your support.



August 31, 2014 at 8:48 AM  
Blogger damnskippy said...

That was a brilliant moment Nicole had with Derrick. I haven't watched it yet so I don't know if she laughingly said it or if Derrick took it as a joke, but it might still stick in his brain. If he thinks fans really shouted "Derrick, save Nicole" then he might think that the fans know something he doesn't know. Maybe they're sure Nicole is on his side and he'd be stupid to lose an ally especially at this point when one person's vote makes all the difference. I'm hoping there's a lot of talk today about backdooring Frankie coming from Derrick (or his mouthpiece Cody).

August 31, 2014 at 8:56 AM  
Blogger irishEYEEEs said...

I just took a shower and turned on stereo, listening to Garth Brooks, for some reason I can't stop crying. This really hit home with the verbal abuse with my ex. I'm a mess. My poor husband ( thank you God for sending this wonderful man my way) is also very upset and disgusted. I just can't stop crying! @grendon, your post hit it right on the nose, actually hit right out of park! Production will do nothing, why start now. I'm really looking forward to BBAU . Maybe someday Allison Grodner will actually loose her job and they can make this the show we all fell in love with once again. Ok, I'm done venting and crying, Frankie is not going to ruin my Sunday with my husband. Much love and peace, E.

August 31, 2014 at 9:08 AM  
Blogger becca said...

so Victoria's parents already went to TMZ with the comments and wants a full apology from Frankie, Frankie's parents and Ariana. Personally Derrick, Cody, Christine and Caleb were all laughing and talking abt it. Christine is the one who started it and nothing was done abt it. I hope when Frankie is evicted Julie mentions it and asks him abt it just like she did last year with Aaryn and her racial comments.

August 31, 2014 at 10:13 AM  
Blogger Carole said...

There's another reason Frankie is livid and angry with Nicole, beyond when she had put him up for eviction.
When Nic came back, she told a story about Hayden being dissed backstage by Ariana. Ariana was in the audience the night Hayden was evicted. Apparently, she was being a Diva & snubbed Hayden. For Nic to say anything that puts his 1/2 sis in a bad light enrages him, BEYOND all reasoning! He detests her for that.

August 31, 2014 at 10:23 AM  
Blogger bbwatcher said...

Maybe Nicole was trying to self evict because she had already said she can't take Frankie anymore that she fears for her life when he looks crazy even Derrick has said when Frankie gets that look he is afraid of him that says a lot so I'm guess she was trying to self evict and it took 2 hrs to convince her that she should stay being on slop 2 weeks and on the block it's taking a toll on poor Nicole. About the comments made by Frankie about Victoria I agree with Jerry Williams I just feel bad for all of us having to deal with that molester in the house poor derrick, you can even see Caleb and Cody get uncomfortable and pull away from Frankie when he is mauling them but I think they don't wanna come off as rude if they move away quick...I dunno IMO

August 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...


I would love to see Frankie evicted, but where was RAPE suggested?

Now if he had his hand in Derrick's shorts thats 100% grounds for his removal

August 31, 2014 at 10:35 AM  
Blogger coxsey5 said...

Hello. Nasty day yesterday! There are a few observations that i would like to make about the unfortunate events.
How to word this...Live chat rooms were up in arms yesterday about frankies words, and rape, gang banged, etc were thrown around by many. The other side were saying it was a joke, rape etc was never mentioned, it was tag team no gang bang, relax everyone you are taking it too far etc etc. Both sides are right to a certain extent. Rape and gang bang were never mentioned i agree, but the words and their meaning from Frankie were crystal clear.
What i saw and felt about Frankies words and actions was that he would condone it if it hapened, and would enjoy the devestation it would bring upon Vic in the aftermathe when she woke up with a hangover and realized what had hapend, willing or not.Im upset not just with his words but the enjoyment he got in prolonging the robot part ( he left the room then came back and continued with his hands while saying props and cody laughed) then going to sit with Vic and Nic and saying Props whith a smirk on his face while looking at Vic. What got me more than his words was the maliciousness and pure unadulterated joy of the thought of it actually happening. Now rape was never specifically said but the intent behind rape is the power in the act and the utter humiliation and dehumanization of the victim. I think frank accomplished that even if Vic does not know it now. But she will after and my heart just falls to pieces Knowing how she will be crushed when her family tells her. ( crying just writing this.) Frankie has always skeeved me out so i actually wasn't surprised by his words, just that he said them aloud for everyone to here. You can see his envy and hate in his face throughout the season. He is so proud of himself and in every action he takes and word he says. There is a cold void wear his heart should be and i just can not wait for the backlash when he gets out. Oh and the envy of donny's BB role!
On another note... if you go back and watch, Caleb, after a min or so was not laughing. In fact he looks maybe mad and definitely unamused during franks first bit, then when frank come back into the room and continues with props and hand motions, Caleb doesn't crack a smile once. I wish that when frankie went to the table to sit with the girls, the camera would have stayed on the boys and cristine to see if they shared any horrified looks or shakes of their heads.
I hope i have explained how i feel and not just ramble on. I so much enjoy the live feeds and hope next season will not be censored in any way because of this.

August 31, 2014 at 10:48 AM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Another great TOR!! Thanks for all you do Carolyn!!!

August 31, 2014 at 11:08 AM  
Blogger Kdecruz said...

I looked at the pic that was posted and it's appears to be from the week Derrick was dethroned. He is laying there talking to Frankie, Caleb and possibly Christine with his daughters blanket over his face. He is awake.

August 31, 2014 at 11:10 AM  
Blogger Lucky13 said...

Okay... Good afternoon everyone. When I commented this morning, as mentioned, I hadn't caught up on my reading yet. Then just as I published my comment, I left my laptop, still without catching up on my reading. I am JUST getting back and what am I greeted with? Frankie's comments. I know I am late to the conversation and it iss Sanity Sunday, but I must say, I am disgusted!!! How dare he part his lips with a comment like that. So totally unacceptable!!! And Caleb's co-signing is just as appalling!!! Everyone present should have set Frankie straight IMMEDIATELY and production should have pulled him in for a discussion/reprimand as well. Totally unacceptable!!!

August 31, 2014 at 11:12 AM  
Blogger Lyndsay said...

Don't get me wrong, Frankie is a vile person getting worse by the moment. However, from the transcript he did not tell anyone to rape anyone. What he said was disgusting and very wrong, I can't help but think about his family and what everyone is now doing to them. Not to mention that Caleb's comments seemed equally vulgar. I'm going to have to go back and actually watch the clip because people are going to far in my opinion and letting the other guys off of the hook.

August 31, 2014 at 11:23 AM  
Blogger Lyndsay said...

Watched the video, stand by what I said. Frankie is an idiot but did not suggest rape. People need to be careful where they take things.

August 31, 2014 at 11:29 AM  
Blogger breyedgrl55 said...

Sadly, we all know from time to time production does steer houseguests in certain directions to help the game along. As far as the vile Frankie incident yesterday goes, prod may not try to have them put up Frankie but the opposite, vote Victoria out to solve the problem. We know Frankie is their golden boy for ratings and would not want him gone yet, be it likability or being a villain, it helps their ratings.
In a perfect world, Caleb wakes up and puts up Frankie but the odds of that happening are probably 70/30!

August 31, 2014 at 11:35 AM  
Blogger Ketchup's mom said...

Well said Grendon!

August 31, 2014 at 11:59 AM  
Blogger TripL in Cen FL said...

Caro, I hope that you are enjoying your Sanity Sunday. I have just watched a movie that I DVRed on Hallmark last evening and just now turned my laptop and tablet on.
I've read the rest of the comments from yesterday's report and finally had a great giggle. It was from the auto correct in Kadecruz's report. Our HGs need to be put on auto correct most of the time.
I shut everything down early this morning due to being repulsed not only by Cody's being drunk, but when Victoria was on the floor babbling. I was becoming too worried about her safety after what had been said earlier.
Now I'm going to grab my new coffee cup and read about what did take place.
Seeya tonight

August 31, 2014 at 12:00 PM  
Blogger Tella @TellaKG said...


Thanks for those examples. I think people forget that mean, violent things have been said as long as people are put in situations like this. The quest for money, fame, and pressure makes people more ugly at the moment.

I do not think Frankie meant it as bad as it came out. Period. It was vile. But what else is new? He was over the top with Zach as he is now with others... People cheered. It was never cute.

Mark my words... Nothing needs to be done. Frankie will have hell to pay when outside of the house. He has made TMZ, just like Aaryn..

August 31, 2014 at 12:11 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I agree with Grendon.

What was said was completely reprehensible and terrible. However, I do not believe Victoria was in any "danger" as some commenters have implied.

It's all about context, and the context here was not one of intent or true malice. It was an awful thing to joke about said too flippantly and taken too far.

The comment was vile no doubt, but the setting here was joking around.. about a serious subject that should not be discussed so recklessly.

People are understandably outraged, but it is important to keep a level head all the same.

August 31, 2014 at 12:12 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I read through the post about Frankie saying what he did about Victoria (and watched it on fb). While I certainly dont condone what Frankie said, I do not like how everyone is throwing 'rape' around. No where did he ever say they should do it against her will, obviously none of them would do that. I think this has been taken way out of context unfortunately. And no I dont like Frankie one iota either, but I dont think he deserves people putting the word rape into his mouth.
Also, in regards to Frankie being to touchy-feely, if the house guests arent telling him to stop why would BB when they allow people to have sex on the feeds?
This is all just my opinion, sorry if I offended anyone.

August 31, 2014 at 12:14 PM  
Blogger Tella @TellaKG said...

Can we focus on something nice for a change too? One of the best laughs this summer happened after midnight in the kitchen. I laughed so hard WITH Victoria who was drunk and did not know a word. It was hilarious. And she was adorable. The guys were amused too, in a nice way. It was 20 mins of pure fun. Nicole was in DR, Chris in bed and Codyout cold in his bed.

Unfortunately when the alcohol started to wear off she became sad and cried too... She was sad her BF Nicole is leaving again, and the paranoia of the block set in. She cried foe a while... In every room. Derrick was there hugging her and consoling her. This is why Derrick hung the moon. He is a caring man. Some faux fan took pictures again of Derrick with Victoria... Wanting his wife Jana's twitter. Good for her, she shut it down due to these rabid a-holes.

Not all is bad in the house. There have been worse years. Now enjoy your day.

August 31, 2014 at 12:22 PM  
Blogger Robin said...

WTF? I just had to watch a commercial when I went to watch the live feed. That was a first.

August 31, 2014 at 12:27 PM  
Blogger Michie (Boricua) said...

TMZ posted the video of Franky!! Lets see if Ariana defends him.

August 31, 2014 at 12:56 PM  
Blogger Tella @TellaKG said...

Frankie is getting all the kind of publicity he may never have wanted... it's amazing that HGs never learn from the seasons before. Maybe our culture today is so full of sex, misogyny and more that nothing matters in this regard.

I do not get why an apology is wanted from Ariana... and family. That is just stupid.

HuffPo: http://videos.huffingtonpost.com/entertainment/celebrity/big-brother-16----frankie-grande-offends-contestants-family-with-rape-joke-518393830

August 31, 2014 at 1:10 PM  
Blogger Taylor said...

Well stated, Grendon. Unfortunately I think you're very correct in that production is not going to do anything. Hopefully all of America sees what a horrible person Frankie is at this point. He has to deal with the repercussions of his words and actions when he returns to real life and I'll take comfort in that.
For now I merely hope for small victories and I hope a worthy HG receives the America's Favorite vote (I hope for Zach personally).

August 31, 2014 at 1:14 PM  
Blogger Robin said...

The incident from last night with Frankie and the rape comments is now on TMZ... Victorias family commented.
Not sure when they feel his sister should have to apologize.


August 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM  
Blogger Evie B. said...

Looks like TMZ did run with the story.

August 31, 2014 at 1:30 PM  
Blogger irishEYEEEs said...

Hi Caro and fellow dishers. I'm sorry about my earlier crying, just made me feel bad. ( it's not posted yet). Anyway, in last post I said people were taking it to TMZ. This is what Victorias family has to say.
I'm a bit disappointed , I don't feel Ariana or the rest of the Grande family owes them an apology, just Frankie. I'm also wondering why they aren't asking for his eviction. It's been picked up by TMZ and other news sources and it's now being spread all over. ( even people who just watch the show and think the world is flat) will most likely see this controversy. Victorias family, I'm SMH at them also. An apology from Ariana, really? You should be demanding he leaves. What a shame. They had the platform to speak their minds and what they said is here in this link. One thing is for certain, Frankie has a rude awakening when he leaves the BB house. I'm even thinking his sister will want to distance herself from this controversy and not ask her fans to vote for him? how would you handle it if you had the platform to speak? I'm just curious. Here is one link out of many. http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/31/frankie-grande-big-brother-victoria-rape-joke/

August 31, 2014 at 1:41 PM  
Blogger Dianne said...

I have thought it wierd that the guys in the house let Frankie lay all over them and that Christine has on occasion laid on top of Cody, I would feel very uncomfortable if anyone did that to me, male or female, but I thought maybe that is just me, it's a new generation. But Frankie just keeps pushing the envelope and has engaged in behavior that would normally be considered sexual harrassment; inappropriate touching and propositioning is not that funny but the guys for the most part have encouraged it, namely Zach, Cody, and Caleb.

I assume Derrick was asleep when Frankie had his hand up his shorts as he hasn't really been a part of the excessive cuddling. If so, it's just as bad as if a HG put his hands where they don't belong on an unwitting or unwilling female HG (in the screenshot Derrick has clothing over his face which makes it look like he may be sleeping). But Derrick was pretty complicit when Frankie was making the inappropriate rape comments. As Grendon said this stuff happens every year, but that doesn't make it any less objectionable. I guess we are part of the problem as we continue to watch.

Meanwhile, thank you Carolyn, I am going to use your link to do some shopping on Amazon & then we are off to In N Out Burger, see you later Dishers!

August 31, 2014 at 2:15 PM  
Blogger Starr Ghost said...

Thank you to both who keep this blog going ~ you do amazing jobs and surprised either one of you are not bald or irritated especially having to transcribe all the negative comments ~ we had been comparing last season to this with all the hatred, racists and was almost ready to say but Frankie took it to another level that truly crossed a line ~ how dare he tell Cody and Caleb to double team Victoria ~ my teeth are still on edge and temper has simmered seeing I had to catch up from the past couple days ~ truly disgusting and truly distasteful ~ Frankie reached a new low in my book

August 31, 2014 at 2:31 PM  
Blogger rockyrose said...

I am mostly a lurker and have not been following BB for as many years as most of you. I want to Thank You, Carolyne, not only for your timeless coverage; but, for your having a home where we can express ourselves when things become offensive and so upsetting to us. The Internet can be a very ugly place with many a$$es. Here, we can share our thoughts without being demonized for them. It is the reason why I choose to "tip" your site each year. And, BTW....someone posted awhile back ago asking that you do not offer your thoughts when typing your updates. PLEASE do not stop!! That is what gives me a chuckle and also brings me back to earth when I question my memory of how I remembered something happening or was said! Now, to express my frustration...

I checked the video of Frankie and the others and, what I find most surprising, is that no one is talking about what was said afterwards. They didn't just stop with the comments posted. They all were laughing, including Derrick being expressive, of ZINGBOT RAPING Victoria!!! Frankie continued to act it out. Frankie is a vile and mean person. I resent his foul mouth and oral sex remarks along with the various names he has called the women in the house... c _ _ _ being one of them. Frankie proves how "money cannot buy class". And, I am sure his grandfather raised him to be a gentleman... how disappointed he must be watching Frankie.

TMZ has covered this with Victoria's parents reactions. Truthfully, it is Victoria that I am quite worried for. She may not be a victim of rape... but the vile things said about her...she is going to be crushed. We saw how she reacted when she had an inkling that Derrick had been using her. She was devastated and embarrassed until Derrick smooth talked himself out of it. When she goes home and sees how he really was using her and how he reacted and was the person who brought Zingbot further into the conversation....well, I hope her parents will have the foresight to get her some help. She is young, naive and appears to have had a protected life. I am afraid this could be too much for her when she watches this. Hopefully, she will find some consolation that America cared and spoke up for her.

August 31, 2014 at 2:43 PM  
Blogger Tella @TellaKG said...

FFS... right now I want to blow my head off. Well, not really.

I AM SO FRUSTRATED with Nicole. She is so damn stupid at the moment courting Frankie... when Caleb and Cody have been working on getting Derrick on the train to Re Nom Frankie. Nicole has no clue what is going on obviously. This conversation (3.50PM Cam 1) will lead to Frankie telling Caleb and squash the whole idea of anybody but Victoria going up next to Nicole. Stupid, stupid girl. She learned nothing... you do not court multiple people, in case they talk. You come off as shady.

August 31, 2014 at 4:00 PM  
Blogger Tella @TellaKG said...

Just before Nicole started to sink her game, this happened in HoH between Derrick and Caleb re. Frankie as a Re Nom.

Derrick “This is the pivotal moment for Caleb here, you have to do what your brother said, ‘do what’s good for you.’”

August 31, 2014 at 4:02 PM  
Blogger Fuzzies said...

I love Derrick!!! There is no way in H-E-double hockey sticks that he would allow anyone to hurt Vic or Nic or even one of the guys. He knows it was just foul guy talk. He tried to avert it by bringing up Vic's dad but Frank is soooo foul that he completely ignored that. Frankie acts like a 5year old because it works for him. I feel sorry for Caleb and Cody because they are puppets. They are being eaten alive and just can't see it. Chris is playing as hard as Derrick but not nearly with as much finesse. Vic and Nic will be bff's in jury house and beyond. God's blessings on you all this happy Sunday. Can hardly wait to see tonights show. Love and hugs.

August 31, 2014 at 5:11 PM  
Blogger Robin said...

The comments being made were bad. But they have been blown up a bit more then what they started out as. Rape wasn't mentioned... But now it's being thrown around. I think if it was just left as it was Victoria would have just brushed it off.mnownthe poor girl will walk into a big mess when she steps out that door.

Sadly it is a rude joke that is going to really hurt a young lady just by the mass amount of coverage it has received. If no one talked about it, it would have just blown over.

I hope that have a handler ready to help her when she leaves the house.

And for whoever said something about why her family isn't asking for him to be evicted... I'm sure they haved. But he didn't do anything. He made a joke in poor taste.

I don't think they would have actually sat back and let them rape her. Alcohol could have made things iffy... But if she had clearly said No and they were clearly being forceful, I'm sure someone would have stepped in. I also don't think Derrick would have let them make any advances what so ever.

Just my opinion.

August 31, 2014 at 5:17 PM  
Blogger Kdecruz said...

Ya, I proof read and make sure nothing is messed up then I post and go WTH just happened. But, you meant what I knew. :)

August 31, 2014 at 5:51 PM  

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