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Sunday, September 13, 2009

The Overnight Report™

Good Morning, BB Lovers! Happy Sunday!!

Please join us tonight for the Sunday Show Viewing Party starting at 7:45pm Eastern.

If you've got Questions for the Backyard Interviews Chelsia will be doing, please leave them there, in the comment section of that post.

I've been thinking about the votes, and the more I think about it, the more I think Jordan really ought to take Natalie, if she wins part 3 and she's given the option. Why? Well, Kevin starts with Natalie and Lydia's votes. Then he gets Russell and Jessie's votes, for getting Jeff out. That's 4. The rest are irrlelvant. Kevin wins.

If Jordan wins part 3 and takes Natalie, she ought to start with Jeff and Michele's votes, and she has America, but I still can't think of who her fourth vote might be... Can you?

All we've seen of the jury house is people's initial reactions to Natalie's age lie. After the initial feelings of getting got, some are likely to realize Natalie started playing the game the moment she walked in the door. If their pride allows it, they may also acknowledge the game she played didn't require her to win a single thing...

Why win comps when you can manipulate everyone around you to do your bidding?


The more I think about it, the more I think Jordan's playing for 2nd in either scenario...

While I get the Overnight™ together, a fun new wake up video to put a smile on your face:

What follows are snippets that I found amusing, disturbing, enlightening, or just plain odd.

10:15pm BBT
Kitchen Counter
Natalie & Kevin
Cam 3

Jordan's just been called to the DR. Kevn and Natalie are lying to each other about deals with Jordan, and Kevin speaks his truth about Chima.

BB: Houseguests, you are not allowed to...
Kevin: The last night we're in here... Monday night, we should totally screw around and make the person who pushes the buttons run through all of em. Kevin, no climbing. Just for sh-ts and giggles.
Natalie: (laughs)

Kevin: So... have you made a final 2 deal with Jordan?
Natalie: I've asked her.
Kevin: What'd she say?
Natalie: She doesn't know. No, I haven't asked her, like, for final 2. I just asked her, who are you gonna take? She just says, "I don't know."
Kevin: I know.
Natalie: But I have asked her.
Kevin: I'm like, b-tch, when you gonna know? (or what do you not know)
Natalie: I haven't even been like, will you take me? I just asked her, "hey so, you know, do you know, what are you thinking as far as who you wanna, who should go, who to evict, what are you thinking?" She says, I don't know.
Kevin: (Burp, shuffle)
Natalie: Have you?
Kevin: I've asked her too. She's given me a similar answer. "oh it's a lot to think about... I don't know..." I think she's.. She genuinely feels like we have something together. She doesn't wanna...
Natalie: Yeah, everything's still... good with? you and I?
Kevin: mm hmm
Natalie: That's the deal, right?
Kevin: mm hmm
Natalie: I haven't really been pushing her too much, because I'm, you know, (confident) in you...
Kevin: Girl, it's a crap shoot.
Natalie: No, maybe not.
Kevin: (looks up to heaven) Big Brother, can you please make the questions favored towards me? Thank you. (continues dealing his solitaire cards) Are they watching? Do you think they're watching right now?
Natalie: Yeah.
Kevin: America, please vote for Kevin to win to beat out this (gestures to Natalie) biznatch. OK, I mean...
Natalie: (smiling) I think they already have their minds made up.
Kevin: For those of you who have not already made your minds up, please cast your votes for me, not for this wench.

***Kevin, consider it done. You probably win that vote by about 95%, and that's a conservative estimate.

Natalie: (wheels are turning, but she hasn't found the words yet)
Kevin: I can't believe we can't even make a pitch to America. You know, like...
Natalie: Of course you don't get to make a pitch. Whadda you think this is?
Kevin: I don't know... Like a final plea or something? Amer--

Natalie: Plus this never happens, cuz, you know... There's not an expulsion. The expulsion really screwed me... cuz Chima woulda voted for me, if I was in the end.
Kevin: (exasperated) It screwed both of us, if we were up against Jordan.
Natalie: Right. Correct. That part's true.
Kevin: I told Chima that though. I said, Chima, you're f-ing us. She didn't give a sh-t.
Natalie: Come on, though. You gotta friggin empathize with her a little. I was the only one empathizing with the woman.
Kevin: No.
Natalie: Girlfriend just got her power stripped.
Kevin: So What?! It's like, it is a game...
Natalie: I know! And I came to realize that, that the very next day. I even went in, and I was like, all apologizing, 'cause I came to realize, this is a friggin' game. I know that. But I'm just saying...
Kevin: They even warned us.
Natalie: I'm just sying I empathize with Chima. That's all I'm saying. I empathize with where she's coming from.
Kevin: They even said...
BB: You are not allowed to talk about production.
Kevin: huh? And then, you know, I was just like, Come on, Chima. Get it together. She couldn't. I felt like she just wanted to go home though...
Natalie: I wouldn't say that, but...
Kevin: She was over it. She was not havin' it.

11:25pm BBT
Haves Room
All 3
Cam - Your choice. ;)

Fantasizing about getting out, getting their cel phones back and reconnecting with their friends and their lives outside the house... Then silence, and lots of it, while Kevin and Natalie play chess and Jordan lays down.

1:00am BBT
Cam 3
Haves Room
Natalie, Kevin & Jordan

Talk about cheating in school begins... Natalie is absolutely brazen about it. Jordan admits to a lot of cheating. Kevin is 100% opposed.

Natalie: Who cares?
Kevin: Ok, so next time you get a paycheck, and you earn some money, gimme some of your money, b-tch.
Natalie: There's a difference between that. It's not the same.
Kevin: I worked for my grades, so you..
Natalie: But you're not getting anything taken away from you by letting somebody copy.
Kevin: Yeah, because, there's curves.
Natalie: No! Bullsh-t curves. That's very seldom there's a curve.
Kevin: I'm talking about my college life too.
Natalie: Very seldom teachers curve.
Kevin: College is always curved.
Natalie: Nah, nuh uh, not the college I'm gonna go to, there's no curves.
Kevin: Always curved.

We join in for more at 1:10am BBT.

Natalie: Like, biology, for example... I had a teacher who gave the same test every year. He never changed em, so my friend gave me her tests, and everything was identical, 100% the same.
Jordan: Oh.. wow.
Natalie: So I would like go and write down all the letters, like a, b, whatever, then I would literally finish my test first, cuz I was just...
Kevin: Oh, I think I've done that, where I've looked at a test and gotten familiar with the questions...
Jordan: I would never go by my answers. I would always be like, if I think it's a...
Natalie: No, but... if you see somebody else had b?
Jordan: I'd go with them. I'd never judge by mine, cuz I knew I was wrong.
Natalie: I'd do the same. Same way, Jordan. That's so funny. As much as I cheated though, also people cheated off of me, cuz I don't care. I'm not a little (snitch)... That's fine. I don't care..
Jordan: I will say though.. I had a U.S. History class. I had people cheatin' off of me. That class was easier, but I really payed attention, because I.. I think it all depends on your teacher. Like, I had a really strict teacher that was just weird. And then, um, English, I did like.. I could always write a paper...
Natalie: I've taken Power Points from other people and just use the same PowerPoint. Just tweak it a little bit.
Jordan: Yes!
Natalie: And it works.
Jordan: And if they save it on a disk or something? You just change a few...
Natalie: Change the background color and yup.
Jordan: mm hmm
Kevin: I remember people flat out asking and being, nope!
Natalie: Really?
Jordan: Ooh, i woulda not..
Natalie: What about the people who'd be like, I'll pay you?
Kevin: Oh, no one ever said that to me.
Natalie: Cuz I've had people who..
Kevin: I've helped people who I know. If you're my friend, I'll be like, oh yeah... shh.. I'll lean over. But if I don't know you? Back the f-ck up.
Natalie: I could undertand that.

Jordan tells about her brother (who is not on the show and so remains hands off, as far as I'm concerned)

Natalie: Or having to do an essay, and you find a lot of things on the internet, and you just copy and paste?
Jordan: mm hm
Kevin: Ohh, that's scary though.
Natalie: (defiantly) Oh, that's bullsh-t people say they can find... You're not gonna find exactly where I got it from.
Kevin: No, but they submit that sh-t to these websites now.

***Apparently the T.A.'s at ASU don't use it. It's as simple as a google "i feel lucky" search. Oy.

Natalie: That's bull.. It's all a bluff.

1:15am BBT

Continuing with the education discussion, we progress from rampant cheating to the world f the PhD. Jordan asked what Michele's doctorate actually means, and Kevin tells her, using an example from his former work life... She doesn't quite get it.

From here, we then move on to Natalie's misconceptions about what gay people can and cannot do. Kevin schools her too.

Jordan: Oooh.. I wanna marry a doctor. I bet he knows how to work a vagina.
Kevin: Ewww!
Jordan: Havin sex? They know everything about your vagina.
Kevin: They're probably sick of it.
Jordan: No! You would get sick of it. Kevin, if you were a doctor, you'd be like, eww, lemme call my assistant to come in.
Kevin: (laughs) I'd be examining all the guys.
Jordan: (laughs)
Kevin: Bend over and cough.
Jordan: (Laughs)
Natalie: You can't. I don't think you're allowed to be a doctor, if you're gay.

***What the f-ck planet are you even from?

Kevin: Uh.. (intake of breath) This b-tch really just said that.
Jordan: What?! Really?
Kevin: I can't even believe you just said that.
Natalie: (giggles)
Kevin: America! America! Replay that clip. She just
Jordan: No, you can be.
Kevin: What she just said right now... If I'm up against this biznatch,

***Kevin, it's long since taken care of...

Natalie: hehehehe
Kevin: She just said, "You can't be a gay doctor."
Natalie: I didn't say that!! I'm just saying, I don't know any.
Kevin: Whoever she..
Natalie: I don't know any gay doctors.
Jordan: They probably don't um.. You just don't say it.
Kevin: She just said...
Natalie: (backpeddles some more) I don't know any gay doctors. That's what I'm saying.
Kevin: (dripping sarcasm) Yeah, that's true, like girls can't be doctors either. Yeah, that's true.
Natalie: (giggling all the while) All I'm saying is I don't know any, Kevin.
Kevin: You don't know if you know any!
Natalie: What?? I don't know any. I would know if my doctor was gay.

***breaks for 2 minutes to hold face in hands while saying to self, this girl is reprehensible... 2 more days.. I can transcribe her for 2 more days...

***OK.. it took more than 2 minutes... Onward...

Kevin: In fact, probably more... Did you know gays are more successful than straights, because we all go to school and sh-t, and get educated?
Natalie: (shakes head)
Kevin: Yes!
Natalie: So you're trying to say straights don't go to school and get educated?
Kevin: No, it's just that, it is a proven fact that gays, 1, as a community, have more money, 2, they're more successful and educated, because one, we don't have children.
Jordan: mmm
Kevin: Like, we just don't have children, so we go to school, and two, we become obsessed with becoming successful, because we feel so, like low self-esteem, and stuff like that?
Natalie: Yeah.
Kevin: So um, it's proven, wench. So yeah, probably your doctor is gay..
Natalie: He's not. He's married with a wife, actually.
Kevin: Um, no, he's probably boning some...

***Jordan changes the conversation mid-stream.

Jordan: I wanna to marry a guy that's like really, really smart. I think that's so hot when a guy's real smart.

***Me too. :) Wednesday, here I come!

Natalie: Yeah.
Kevin: So do I.
Natalie: Smart guys. That is really hot.
Kevin: That's why I like my man. He's smart too. He surprises me.
Jordan: Like, I think, when a guy's dumb, it's like a turn off.

Kevin and Natalie concur. They cycle back to cheating and education, then move on to family and friends back home....

For an editorial giggle from the late night Control Room Op, aka Skippy, go to the Quad Cam at 3:55am BBT on Flashback. ;)

This concludes the Overnight Report™. The HGs were up til nearly 4am, so another very late sleep in should be expected.

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Blogger jane said...

Caro, I agree on your assessment of the vote. As I always preach every season, when posters get attached to the ones they like, the jury votes for the "best" player. Every time.

This is a strange season, because the "best" player is hard to determine. I personally go round and round with it, and can't help adding Natalie's personality into the mix, with on principle anyways, I am opposed to.

Anyhow it's shuffled I don't think Jordan will win. And though I made the argument the other day that she played as well as the others, and maybe she did, there is a huge problem and she created it herself. She gave Jeff all the credit publicly. We've never seen that before, and we've never seen the fallout. But I'm betting that everyone filed that away under loser.

I'm not 100% sure I didn't do the same. I have to admit I voted for Kevin against Jordan (even though I said I wouldn't, and I may go back and even it out. I don't want blood on my hands). Is it fair that Jordan's romantic feelings and lack of self esteem should be her demise? I don't know, but it sure f*cked her game play.

IF she wins the final comp and IF she pulls out one hell of a speech where she aggressively takes ownership of her game, I think she might turn it around. Those are big IF'S.

September 13, 2009 at 6:50 AM  
Blogger Jeff in Toledo said...

I always had a problem with BB showing the worst of the "human element". Then Dick and Adam won and I just about gave up watching. Then Dan won without actually screwing with anybody and my faith in mankind was restored.

Frankly, I don't care who wins as long as Natalie gets NOTHING. I know it's just a game, but that girl is just plain evil.

September 13, 2009 at 6:51 AM  
Blogger 4BBonly said...

Good Morning Caroline.

Do you think Lydia would vote for Natalie over Jordan? I didn't think Lydia liked Natalie at all. I've been counting Lydia as Jordan's 4th vote in that scenario...What do you think?

September 13, 2009 at 6:54 AM  
Blogger patti said...

Morning all!

Carolyn said: "The more I think about it, the more I think Jordan's playing for 2nd in either scenario..."

I feel that way too, and is why she should take Kevin. Do you really want Natalie to get second place prize money?

I also feel the jury is NOT anti Natalie and that BB/CBS/AGP just made it look that way to the viewers Thursday night to "make us happy". Chelsia even said something on her online show how they have cameras in the jury house approximately 12 hours a day, and they can snip, snip anything and make it out to be whatever they want. And right now what 'they' want is for the viewers to be happy.......

So I say if Jordan wins, take Kevin. But what I am really hoping for is that Kevin wins and he takes Jordan. At that point, Nat might give Jordan her vote being freshing furious at Kevin for not keeping his word. Maybe Jordan should throw it?!

September 13, 2009 at 6:57 AM  
Blogger Traci said...

I definitely think it is hard to really know/guess how the jurors will vote. If it's Kevin and Jordan, I'm not certain how Russell or even Jessie will vote as neither of them liked Kevin (Jessie was really rude to Kevin when he left).

If it's Natalie and Jordan, I think Jordan could get Lydia's vote. It's a huge question since Lydia couldn't STAND Natalie and really turned on Jordan too. Maybe she'll remember that Jordan played nicer. Who knows? No one in the jury respects Natalie's lies or how she has obviously thrown so many competitions. They acknowledge that she has totally ridden others coattails and depended on others to do the dirty work. They aren't happy about that. None of them think Jordan is very smart, so maybe they will think she played well despite not being smart.

I just am not sure it's a definite either way! I want Jordan to win, but can't stomach the thought that Natalie could be in the final 2.

September 13, 2009 at 6:59 AM  
Blogger Judy in NJ said...

OMG Love that video to start the day Carolyn!! Thank you!!

I agree about the votes.. The only way is if Kevin wins and takes her and she gets Natalie's vote... I think he knows that too so I do think he'll take Natalie.

If she's playing for second anyway, I hope she takes Kevin!!

Happy Sunday y'all

September 13, 2009 at 7:18 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Good morning Carolyn and all.

Carolyn how do you find enough conversation to fill a TOR? I watched BBAD during the last hour when I got home and it was at least 90% dead air time. 87% if you count the clanking of chess pieces as 'not dead air'. Applause to you!

I had a great time going out and just being me for a change. No wig, no girdle, no pantyhose, no spackle on my face and no bra with fake 44DDD's. Of course the Show Director let me know if I had been in all that I would have been a paid special guest, and to never show up looking like me again.

That would have been nice but I needed some GaYToR time.

I'm going back to the front page and hit up the F5 until you put them to bed.


September 13, 2009 at 7:23 AM  
Blogger Mbm744 said...

Good morning everyone!

I hope Jordan can win part 3!!!

To answer your questions, I think Jordan does have a shot at winning against Natalie in the final 2. She has Jeff, Michele, and America. So that leaves Kevin, Jessie, Lydia, and Russell. I've never been a Jessie fan but I have respect for him after he said that he would vote for Jeff to win. So I don't think Jessie would hold grudges. Plus, out of those four Jordan's bound to get at least one more vote.

I guess Natalie has been playing the game to some extent with her lies, but I think to win you have to win comps and do so much more than just claim that you're 18.

On the feeds Natalie kept saying that she would not give her vote to Kevin if he evicts her. I wonder if she really means that?

September 13, 2009 at 7:28 AM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Good Morning Carolyn, Genie, fellow BB addicts

Happy Clip Show Day! LOL

I hope they show Nat falling in the hot tub, that would be awesome. Please let it be more than that staged reminiscing they did the other night. That was not entertaining.

Just watched Season 2 Shannon cleaning the toilet with Hardy's toothbrush. That chick was as bad or worse than the ones this year. All the crazy behavior happened early in that season you forget things. Going to watch her get the boot today.

Hope you have a great Sunday with your mother Carolyn, everyone have a great day, see you back here at showtime.

September 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Re: The cheating conversation.

WOW, just :( That is disturbing as far as I'm concerned. I remember people getting po'ed at me for not letting them cheat when I was in high school and college. I would never. The purpose of going to school is not to just get the degree it's to learn something. At least it is to me. Just trying to get through to get it over with is sad.

September 13, 2009 at 7:45 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Natalie proved what I had suspected all along-a cheater in the game and a cheater in life.

Normally, as much as I may dislike someone in the BB house, I don't spend a lot of time hoping for terrible things to happen to them, but...

Please think long and hard about hiring this girl for any type of job until she does some serious growing up. At this point I wouldn't want her working at McDonalds. She would probably steal my pickles.

And just so no one takes offense-I know she did not technically cheat in the game. But she played a dirty game in my opinion. And the revelation about her cheating in school shows very clearly what kind of person she is. Some kids bust their arses to make it through college. If you cheat your way through, it sets up the kind of person you will be in life. Using someone elses answers and benefitting from their hard work is cheating AND stealing and I don't consider it a victimless crime. It makes it hard on the ones who have worked for what they have.

I know everyone has probably fudged a test or two in school. But I am pretty sure Natalie was talking about college, even if she did try to hide that from Kevin and Jordon. That's a whole different ball game. Once you decide to further your education you need to be willing to work hard and earn what you get.

Basically, she 'played college' the same way she played BB. She let others do the work and floated through. I am really offended that she not only admits it, but does not see anything wrong with what she did.

I guess that explains why her HOH blog was full of errors in spelling and grammar.

September 13, 2009 at 8:01 AM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

HA! My OB is a gay man!!! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Natalie you moron!

She is just so vile on so many levels.

September 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM  
Blogger Patti C said...

What a way to start the day, thanks to you & the video, Carolyn!

I love, love, love it..

September 13, 2009 at 8:08 AM  
Blogger Jess said...

i hope jordan and kevin are f2 only because i don't want natalie to get the prize money for 1st or 2nd place. i don't think any of them deserve 1st as far as game play but i would choose jordan as my winner only because of the fact i like her and not the other 2. in all reality, jeff should have been the winner as i feel he played the game the best. i just hope nat does not make it to final 2.

September 13, 2009 at 8:09 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

As far as the voting scenarios: I never know what the jurors are thinking. I thought Dani was going to beat ED.

The jurors may decide that Natalie's 'strategy' was one that should be given some credit and that it is just as powerful as winning comps.

I think a couple of the flaws in that strategy that they might not be able to overlook are that, when it came down to crunch time and each person really did need to win to be sure of safety, she was still willing to blatantly throw the smores comp and put all the responsibility on Kevin to pull the two of them through to the next week. When the next week came, she did not return the favor and basically left Kevin struggling for his life in the game because she gave up her chance to play POV. I don't think the proposal 'humanized' her. My opinion was, if you have made it that far then you need to tough it out for two more weeks. I felt like she owed it to Kevin to play in the POV.

I don't think jurors will forget that stuff. Kevin definitely won't forget if he doesn't make F2. Nat can say she repayed him by throwing the log comp, but that is something we will never know. As a viewer, I don't think she looked too steady and don't think she could have outlasted him.

September 13, 2009 at 8:18 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


Natalie proved what I had suspected all along-a cheater in the game and a cheater in life.

Normally, as much as I may dislike someone in the BB house, I don't spend a lot of time hoping for terrible things to happen to them, but...

Please think long and hard about hiring this girl for any type of job until she does some serious growing up. At this point I wouldn't want her working at McDonalds. She would probably steal my pickles.

And just so no one takes offense-I know she did not technically cheat in the game. But she played a dirty game in my opinion. And the revelation about her cheating in school shows very clearly what kind of person she is. Some kids bust their arses to make it through college. If you cheat your way through, it sets up the kind of person you will be in life. Using someone elses answers and benefitting from their hard work is cheating AND stealing and I don't consider it a victimless crime. It makes it hard on the ones who have worked for what they have.

I know everyone has probably fudged a test or two in school. But I am pretty sure Natalie was talking about college, even if she did try to hide that from Kevin and Jordon. That's a whole different ball game. Once you decide to further your education you need to be willing to work hard and earn what you get.

Basically, she 'played college' the same way she played BB. She let others do the work and floated through. I am really offended that she not only admits it, but does not see anything wrong with what she did.

I guess that explains why her HOH blog was full of errors in spelling and grammar.

September 13, 2009 at 8:19 AM  
Blogger suzi~in~california said...

Natalie DID cheat in BB also and she admitted it ( More like Bragged about it ). She was also called on it by the production but they never did anything to her, I think they never did anything to her because her cheating never affected the outcome of what she cheated on. But it was still cheating and I wish she would have been called out on it more!

September 13, 2009 at 8:24 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Natalie said: "So you're saying straights don't go to school and get educated?"

We know Natalie did go to school. But from the earlier conversation, we know she did not get educated.

Is that why she was offended. Did that hit a little too close to home?

September 13, 2009 at 8:28 AM  
Blogger KantroSAK said...

Good morning all... I really feel Jordan has been convinced she needs to take Jordan out of respect for Jeff being kicked out by Kevin...

I PRAY Kevin wins and takes Jordan.. My feelings aside...

If Jordan wins and kicks Kevin OR Natalie out, I still think she will get Jeff, Russell, Michele and America!!

If Kevin wins and takes Natalie.. He will he will more than likely get Michele, Jeff, Lydia and America!!!

Natalie gets second or third either way!! Just my humble opinion.. Have a happy Sunday!

September 13, 2009 at 8:32 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Caro - what really really smart guy is appearing Wednesday? It's not someone from this season!

Just a little friendly advice for Jordan ... if she wants to marry a really really smart guy, she better start liking sex and get really really good at it, cause no really really smart guy is gonna marry her for the stimulating conversation. I like Jordan, don't get me wrong, but she makes Jeff seem like a brain trust, and I'm not sure he can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

(It's the end of the season, I'm sick of them all!)

September 13, 2009 at 8:33 AM  
Blogger nolegs41 said...

patti said.

So I say if Jordan wins, take Kevin. But what I am really hoping for is that Kevin wins and he takes Jordan. At that point, Nat might give Jordan her vote being freshing furious at Kevin for not keeping his word. Maybe Jordan should throw it?!

September 13, 2009 6:57 AM

That's the ticket.

September 13, 2009 at 8:37 AM  
Blogger KantroSAK said...

PS: Thanks for posting the Oprah -- Black Eyed Peas video!!

I'm not the biggest Oprah fan, however that was amazing!!

I love it!! And appreciate your posting it!

September 13, 2009 at 8:40 AM  
Blogger Jim H said...

Jane: I think there are varying definitions in the House as to what "best" means. For example, Russell would probably reward Nat over Kevin for her guile while Jeff would reward Kevin for winning competitions. I think Lydia's definition of best might be more inclined towards how they treated her - so Jordan over Nat and Kevin uber alles. Michele will probably go middle of the road somehow - she might be 50-50 on Nat-Jor but prefer Kevin over Nat/Jor becuase he combined deception with some competition prowess. On the other hand, Michele might just conclude Nat was the smarter if she's in the F2. Jessie will probably show loyalty to Nat and be biased against Jordan but who knows - he may just do a revenge vote against Kevin.

My prediction:

Kevin-Jordan: Kevin wins
Kevin-Natalie: Kevin wins (but it will be much tighter since Michele could go either way)
Jordan-Natalie: Jordan wins

September 13, 2009 at 8:40 AM  
Blogger jane said...

I'd love to get into a huge debate about college (NOT), but I will make it succinct. That everyone needs to go to college these days means that colleges have to accommodate the large group of people that would not have gone to college 50 years ago, and would have made a good life for themselves in jobs that are now automated. A college degree is what a HS degree used to be and a masters what a college degree used to be (with notable exceptions for highly competitive school).

I'm making a broad generalization, but I doubt most academics would disagree. Thus cheating becomes almost a necessity. That Natalie has a college degree astounds me. She has no critical thinking skill whatsoever (among other things). Hey, Blockbuster needs managers and there's nothing wrong with that. But it ain't exactly neuroscience.

BTW, I am surprised to learn Casey does NOT have a masters. In every state I have lived in after a period of time teachers have to get a masters (or maybe that's just HS, I'm not sure).

September 13, 2009 at 8:43 AM  
Blogger Pamela said...

Good Morning Carolyn,

Good Morning one and all,

Jane you always nail it. When I read your comments, I am talking to screen and agreeing with you.

My brother was gay and his partner is a Doctor. Nat has blinders on to anything outside her own little world.

I am in lots of pain so am off to bed again..

Have a great Sunday show day...

September 13, 2009 at 8:48 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

responding individually... gimme a few minutes. :)

September 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM  
Blogger Jay said...

Hello Carolyn, and all my fellow Dishers, I haven't been around because I couldn't afford to eat and keep the internet. I start my new job Tuesday...yay for tips lol. Thank you for keeping us up to date all summer Carolyn and Genie Sea this is my favorite blog on the net and I have missed it dearly

September 13, 2009 at 8:56 AM  
Blogger MG said...

Morning All-

I think CBS should put together an unedited version of "The Natalie Diaries". This should include all her reprehensible actions in the house. Her LIES, her bashing other houseguests, her LIES, her ridiculous comments and her LIES.

They can then present this to her as a wedding gift.

Personally, I don't want either to take her to F2. I don't want to see her win a dime.

September 13, 2009 at 8:58 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hey Jane :) What a strange, strange trip it's been, eh? I agree - Jordan's only shot is a decisive win of the final comp and a speech to kill or die for.

Hi Jeff :) She is kinda hard to watch, huh? ;)

Hi 4BBonly :) Mmm.. In terms of Lydia, it's really hard to say. She definitely had her issues with both of them, but here's where I think she goes the Natalie route: Lydia was 100% privy to the whole LML (last minute lie). She knows Natalie came up with it, and she knows that's what saved her and Kevin in the game.

Hi Patti! :) Honestly, I'm torn. On the one hand, I find her reprehensible as a human being. On the other, she played this game to death without getting any blood on her hands.

Hi Traci :) I agree - It is really hard to figure this jury out. That said, I think that in a Jordan/Kevin scenario, Jessie and Russell will go towards Kevin, since he got Jeff out, and their male pride won't allow them to vote differently on that issue.

In terms of Natalie v Jordan, again, it's such a tough call.

Hi Judy in NJ! :) Thanks! :) I loved it too! I really wonder if Kevin's going to throw the final comp, just to keep natalie's vote.

Hi GayTor! :) lol.. I played flashback roulette, and that's what I got. ;) I'm glad you had such a nice time last night!!!

September 13, 2009 at 9:05 AM  
Blogger joy said...

I seriously don't know what is keeping Kevin from slapping that girl silly when she does her ignorant gay talk.
you know if it wasn't live feeds and a matter of losing a whole lot of money, its the only thing keeping him sane from her ignorant remarks like last nights "i don't think they allow Gay people to be doctors". are we sure shes really 18 and lied about the 24?
no even an 18 year old wouldn't say that.
i want Jordan to win, and I think Kevin realized last night that jeff had not lied to him and was serious about their final 4, but i hate him having to listen to the bigot Natalie.
really is she faking these remarks, because nobody could be that stupid in this day and age. what would she gain by making all these bigoted remarks?
i guess....she's just a bigot, crazy or way beyond naive.

September 13, 2009 at 9:11 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Mbm744 :) - I'll cross my fingers with ya. :)

Hi Michigan Man :) Happy Clip Show Day to you!! hehe! Thank you!
Re: the cheating convo and the gay convo - I'm disgusted.

Hi Grendon :) Extremely well said, per usual.

Hi Michelle in IN :) Yup!

Hi PattiC :) THank you! Glad you enjoyed!

Hi Jess! :) - Happy Sunday Show day!

Grendon: Excellent point about Kevin being a potential Jordan/or anti-Natalie vote in the finals... hmmmm

Hi Suzi in CA :) me too.

Hi Kantro :) - Glad you liked the video. :) I just found it yesterday, and I thought it was pretty special. Re Game - I thought that too, but she's really been weighing her options this week, and she seems to be leaning more towards keeping Kevin at the moment.

Jane re smart guy appearing - That would be in my life. ;) Not BB.

Hi NoLegs :) - Certainly another viable option...

Hi JimH :) Happy Sunday Show Day!

Hi Pamela :) I'm sorry you're still feelin' crappy!!! :( Sending you lots of love.

Didi - Whereever you are... Healing vibes to you, too, my friend. :)

Zany - Same goes for you! Big Hugs!!!!

September 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Jay :) It's great to see you again. :) Congrats on the new job!!!

Hi MG :) Wouldn't it be better if they gave it to her boyfriend as an engagement gift? ;p

Hi Joy :) I know.. I was shocked too...

September 13, 2009 at 9:20 AM  
Blogger Rana said...

Am I getting my hopes up to hope for Jeff and Jordan in the DR together on tonight's clip show. Or Jordan's goodbye message? There has to be lots of unseen Jeff/Jordan DR right???

September 13, 2009 at 9:21 AM  
Blogger Jay said...

I wish someone from production would blow an air horn in that room right now lol

September 13, 2009 at 9:25 AM  
Blogger Gerri said...

Good Sunday Morning Carolyn & all

I just keep voting for Jordan plain and simple - she is the lesser of 3 evils lol. Natalie she's stooped to a new low with her gay comments and NO surprise - cheating in school (her HOH blog shows how well she is in English). I'm excited for Tuesday to come because I'll be flying down to AZ and hopefully by 5 pm I'll be relaxed enough to watch the end.

September 13, 2009 at 9:28 AM  
Blogger Angela said...

If Kevin gives Natalie the boot don't you think Natalie will be super pissed and vote for Jordan???

September 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM  
Blogger Meg in SC said...

Quick Question, After Tuesday so they show the feeds of everyone in the backyard after the live show or no? This is my first time having the feeds and i wasnt sure

September 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM  
Blogger MG said...

LOL Carolyn!!

September 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM  
Blogger Janea said...

Good Morning, All.
I have to agree Carolyn. Jordan can only win 2nd at best. I also do not think she will get Jeff's vote. I think he will be sitting in the jury house saying he carried her as far as he could before he got turfed, exactly the way he did numerous times to various people in the house, and bemoaning the fact that it was only after he was gone that she 'started to play'(read - won competitions).

And LOL at the 3:55 A.M. camera FB! What actually popped into my head?..." Hey! Are these Ronnie's HOH pictures?" :P

September 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM  
Blogger Rana said...

so the live feeds will show backyard interviews and other stuff after the show. Is this stuff we will be able to see on flashbacks too after the fact?

Go Jordan!!! Can't wait to see Jeff and Jordan reunite!

September 13, 2009 at 9:46 AM  
Blogger Ilissa said...

If Jordan takes Natalie, I think she will have Russell's vote. Russel seems to want to be accepted by Jeff a little more than Jessie and I don't think he'd go against America's vote. He seems desperate to be liked. Plus, I really think he and Michele have a nice little bond. Who knows though...we'll see. I do believe he will be the deciding vote.

September 13, 2009 at 9:48 AM  
OpenID sheriann1432 said...

I am hoping Jorden wins part 3 of the HOH.
I do think she is playing for second place no matter what.

As this season goes on Natalie just shows more of who she really is. She has been a liar for years becasue she comes up with details to her lie like second nature.
Now, she has also cheated her whole life,so why stop now.

If things were right in BB, Natalie would of had one or more penalty's by now.

I would like to know where Kevin thinks America has been all season, now that it is voting time he is trying to change the bad side he has shown of himself.

I am gonna send positive vibes to Jorden to win part 3 of the HOH.

September 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

Hi Carolyn
I thought I heard last nite about 10:30 Kevin say "they gave her 2 wks.they told her her power could be overturned."My DVR died so I can't prove it or check but I was surprised by the mention of 2 wks.

September 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

Especially the speech part.She seems to ramble and diminish her own actions.

September 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM  
Blogger Mbm744 said...

Well I admit Jordan kind of was carried by Jeff, but at least she won some competitions. In my opinion Natalie hasn't done much. She did win an HOH, but it was only by tiebreaker.

Jordan does deserve to win especially if she wins part 3 of the final HOH.

I don't think someone should win Big Brother if you've only won 1 comp.

Jordan is underestimated. she did great in part 2. And she could really use the money.

Jordan definitely has a shot at winning.

September 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM  
Blogger Ilissa said...

"Natalie: You can't. I don't think you're allowed to be a doctor, if you're gay."

Put me in the house with that girl for one day. One day is all I need.

September 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM  
Blogger GaleLuvsBB11 said...

I dont know how they are gonna vote, and Im confused of who Jordan should take at this moment.
I just pray Kevin does take Jordan and she at least wins the 50 grand, but of course I want her to win the big bucks instead!

That 4 cam at 3:55, BBAD was doing that lots last nite, kept showin us all the rooms and outdoors and zoomin in on the most rediculous stuff while u could hear the talkin going on in the kitchen. So Weird!



September 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM  
Blogger Ilissa said...

I don't believe Jordan was "carried" by Jeff. If anything, Jeff was carried by her. They were simply "guaranteed votes" for each other. Jeff was the hated one in the beginning and if it weren't for being on the Athlete team and having Jordan, he wouldn't have made it so far. Jordan was never on anyone's radar, never the target, never a threat and she has won more than, let's say, Natalie, Chima, Lydia...Russell even? If she isn't tied, she's isn't far behind Kevin & Michele.

September 13, 2009 at 10:11 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

My only regret at the possibility of Natalie not making it to F2-

We didn't get the pleasure of seeing her walk into the jury house and being able to experience the warm reception that awaited her. If she isn't in F2, we will also be deprived of seeing her face the firing squad...er, excuse me, I mean the questioning by the jury.

Thursday's show made it seem as though the jury was finally catching on to the fact that she did absolutely nothing in the game and was carried by the benefit of other people winning and keeping her safe. As was pointed out earlier, it could have been edited to make viewers happy. Well, I choose to live in happy land and believe that the jurors have realized they also are Americans, therefore it is their duty to dislike her as much as the rest of us do. (Just joking, sort of.)

If nothing else, I would enjoy seeing the look of panic on her face when she realizes that Jesse spilled the beans about her secret.

September 13, 2009 at 10:12 AM  
Blogger MG said...

Stand in line llissa!!

September 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

Who's showin up Wednesday?
You're teasing us to begin livin thru you instead of the HG's.

What else have we got on the day after?

September 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Good Morning Carolyn and BBDishers! Happy Sunday 'Rewind' show day!

In the Jury House:

Jessie - vote for K or N
(no way would he vote for J because Jeff used the CDT)
Lydia - vote for K or J
(don't think she likes N & she will vote on personal level, not game play)
Russell - vote for K or ?
(J/J backdoored him, don't think he would vote for N because she hasn't won anything)
Jeff - vote for J (he should)
(If J pulls off the win in the final HOH, Jeff should vote for her)
Michelle - vote for J
(K backstabbed her and she really doesn't think N deserves anything)
*Natalie - vote for ?
(if K evicts her, J will get the vote. If J evicts her, K may get the vote?)
*Kevin - vote for ?
(If N evicts K, J will get the vote. If J evicts him, N may get the vote?)
*America - vote for K or J
(No ones seems to like the way N played the game so I am thinking that America would vote between K & J)

Try figuring this out . . .

September 13, 2009 at 10:17 AM  
Blogger Judy in NJ said...

Carolyn said:::: I really wonder if Kevin's going to throw the final comp, just to keep natalie's vote.

Curious C, why do you think Kevin is confident that Jordan would take him??

September 13, 2009 at 10:20 AM  
Blogger Marci said...

Good Morning Sweet Carolyn!

Good Morning Dish Buddies!

I still don't know who to believe when it comes to who's taking whom!

But if I was Kevo, I'd smack Nat up side the head!!! Good Lord that girl is stupid! I had a gay Dr. and he was great. Oh, my, that girl, and I do mean girl. She will NOT be 'a woman soon ♫'.

GaYToR ~ I am so glad you got good news from your doc!!!!! Yippee

And where has Blue been?????

September 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

@ Jane: I couldn't help myself. Your response (to me, I believe), about Natalie's "armor of delusion" was just too good to pass up. I've posted a new chop (along with about a dozen other new ones) based on your comment. There's also one about Natalie's fury if/when Kevin tells he isn't taking her to the end, combined with her continuously spewing her lying BS. It's at:


Also, regarding your comment earlier this a.m. about teachers, after a period of time, being required to have a Masters -- here, in Colorado, anyway, there is no such requirement for grade school or middle school. Don't know about High School. My partner retired after 32 years of teaching grade school (6th) and then middle school (when they moved 6th into what used to be junior high), and he was not required to get a masters. He was required to re-certify every few years -- but the Masters was almost always only sought out by those who wanted to get a higher salary; some did it to advance in education level (which is probably the High School aspect you're referring to), but mainly its advantage was an increase in a ridiculously low salary.

Your mentioning maybe the particular state being a factor is also correct. We were going to move to California from Colorado, but the teaching requirements were too different and we didn't think we could make it financially while he was going to school to gain the needed additional requirements.

State's Rights??!??!

September 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM  
Blogger patti said...

I was just thinking.......

Before Jeff left, he advised Jordan to trust Michele and Natalie and stick with them both. (he knew if he left it would be kevin's doing)

Now after reading Carolyn's TOR, hearing Jordan say sometimes she cheated in high school because if someone had a different answer, she believed that to be the right one and not what she thought. Also during that step up step down comp, she admitted changing an answer or two as she could hear which way Michele stepped and changed what she thought was right.

Which has me thinking, even if she does think Natalie doesn't deserve to go to F2, would she bring her because Jeff told her to stick with Natalie, and because Kevin is the reason Jeff is gone?

And she is telling Kevin she is taking him, just so he'll take her if he wins?

I just wish she would trust her instincts more, as they are usually right on, but she doesn't. She trusts others more than she trusts herself.

September 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

I don't see Michele voting for anyone but Jordan.
I don't see Lydia voting for Nat unless Jesse gives her a little sumpin.She doesn't want Nat to look any more attractive to Jesse and $ has great appeal.She has crawled on her knees for him.JMO

September 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM  
Blogger Jim H said...

Jeff always said Jordan did as much for him as he did for her. He never in a private moment contradicted that with anyone else that I remember. Jeff also gave some mystical mumbo-jumbo to Jordan when it was clear he was on his way out about how it was destined and it might mean she was the one to win. I think Jeff will vote for Jordan. If Jordan wins and takes Natalie - she will get Jeff, Lydia, maybe Michele and America's vote. Nat gets Jessie, Russ and Kevin.

September 13, 2009 at 10:43 AM  
Blogger suzi~in~california said...

If Jordan can win the final HOH and she takes nat she will def. win. Michelle said in the dish interview that if Jordan wins final HOH she would vote for her, Jeff would vote for her, Jessee seemed to be disgusted with the way Nat would throw comps. and would vote for her, Lydia hates nat and would vote for her, and all she needs is three votes and america would do the rest. Although I would absolutely HATE seeing Natalie win a dime, I think Jordans best chance for 500K is against Natalie. Jordan should win over both of them because Kev & Nat have been so hateful and mean! I also think that it would kill Nat to know that she lost to Jordan. Natalie thinks she's got this game won.

If Kevin wins and takes Jordan I also think she could win because Nat will be so mad she would not vote for Kevin, Jordan would get Jeff, Nat(because she just got the boot),and Michelle could still be mad at Kevin and vote for Jordan and then America will vote for Jordan to break the tie.

I dont see Nat winning in any scenario. I wonder if Kevin will chicken out at the last min. and keep Nat. He seems to do that. From kevins point of view He thinks Jeff and Micelle will not vote for him because he evicted them and whomever he votes out if he gets HOH will be mad and not vote for him. Natalie will be so mad if he wins HOH and doesn't take her.. she would never vote for him!

Anyway, these are my thoughts and I hope Jordan can pull off final HOH and have the final control over both of them because they think they are so much better and have talked so much crap about her. I think she can pull it off, because the final questions should be about who said what in the jury house and she could be better at guessing what someone has said vs. questions about specific events in the house. She really rocked the part 2 HOH so I hope she can pull it off! GO JORDAN

September 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM  
Blogger jane said...

I didn't watch that video earlier cause I don't like Oprah or the Black Eyed Peas. But I have to admit, that was COOL.

September 13, 2009 at 10:57 AM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

I remember Jeff saying stick w/Michele. I don't remember him ever saying Nat.Maybe I missed it?

September 13, 2009 at 10:58 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Berdache Bear - I'm honored to have a chop after my idea, which I don't even remember anymore, I ramble about so my crap. :-)

September 13, 2009 at 11:01 AM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

HAHA! My boyfriend is a doctor (and thus, obviously gay). And my general practice doctor is also gay... ohhhh Natalie.

September 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Jane -- you sound like Jordan and her lack of belief in herself. What you consider "rambling," I think many of us in this little family consider to be "perceptive." jmo

September 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM  
Blogger suzi~in~california said...

Final Prediction:

Jordan vs. Natalie ~

Jordan wins and natalie is stunned and confused that she didn't win because she has no idea how she is preceived by people and she thinks everyone bought all her lies! (Had to rant, sorry)

Jordan vs. Kevin ~

Jordan wins if Kevin won HOH and sent Nat out but otherwise I think Kevin would win and I think Jordan would still be very happy to win 2nd place. And I would be happy to not see Natalie win anything in this scenario.

Kevin vs. Natalie ~

Kevin wins hands down and Natalie is shocked.

September 13, 2009 at 11:24 AM  
Blogger CRyan said...

Re: Natalie cheating

That explains why she works at Blockbuster!

September 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM  
Blogger Reneep. said...

Hey all! Hope everyone is feeling better today! I know I am, Bama,LSU and USC won but better than that my Saints are kicking butt! I had to say something positive, cause these HG have lost it. There are a lot of things I would do for a half million, but it seems to me that for some its just a way of life. I worked my a@@ off to get my degree & worked 40+ hours, along with raising two children by myself. These people are clueless.oh well. Just checking by, miss chatting with my dish friends!

September 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM  
Blogger ronap said...

Just have to make a comment about the Oprah video - I LOVE this song! I love to watch the synchronized dancers! Them together is amazing.

September 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM  
Blogger ǝuoʎuɐzǝɥʇ said...

grrr where to start. First, good morning all. GRRRRRR OK, I'm one of those poor kids who went to college on scholarship and worked my as off for my grades. I did not cheat...I earned my grades in HS and college because my dad would have kicked mt arse if I cheated. I did get pissed off when one guy cheated off me the entire semester then bitched me out when he failed a test because I had to take it on a different day. For that, yes, I told the prof. I also told someone when I was approached about being paid for taking someone's econ test for them. I didn't want to take the risk of losing my scholarship if it was a setup. I still feel fine with those decisions, years later.

Of all people, how can Nat, one of mixed race, boundless to have been messed with for that heritage, believe and vocalize those thoughts about someone with a different sexual orientation? We've surpassed ignorance and gone straight to inexcusable stupidity.

I don't care who wins the big bucks as long as Nat isn't rewarded for any of it. She needs to see if she can a refund on that college education. It was obviously obtained in an unusable format. ASU should be ashamed to have her wear those letters. FILE A RESTRAINING ORDER, ASU!!! Tell her she is never allowed to represent the school in any way shape or form ever again. Disgusting.

September 13, 2009 at 12:15 PM  
Blogger PerSemPre Me said...

I was thinking about the votes and if we assume America votes for Jordan (I Did) then I think if she takes Kevin she will have Jeff, Michelle and Natalie (since Kevin JUST betrayed Natalie she will not vote for him) then America Vote and Jordan Wins ....

If she takes Natalie it could swing either way. One way Jordan would have Jeff Michelle and Lydia (Since Lydia will not vote for Natalie) then America Vote and Jordan WINS however if they decide to over look how they feel they may just all vote for Natalie to win figuring Jordan will at least have the 50 thousand and Natalie did play the most strategic game. This last way is what scares me I truely do not want Natalie to win. I would feel better if Jordan took Kevin. AHHHHH This would have been so much easier if it were Jeff, Jordo and Michelle oh well best laid plans..

PS: Thank you Carolyn and all you dishers out there - you all do an amazing job. Checking on your updates is the highlight of my day. Your humor always makes me smile!! :)

PerSemPre Me

September 13, 2009 at 12:23 PM  
Blogger Lizzie said...

Well, there's always hope that on the way out the BB house door Nat's suitcase pops open, revealing Kevin's hoodie, Jeff's cap,Michele's gloves,Jordon's coveted luxury outfits,towels,blankets,cooking utensils...

BB- Natalie,please come to the Diary Room.No need to sit down :-)

September 13, 2009 at 1:06 PM  
Blogger jane said...

Berdache Bear - yeah, but the difference between me and Jordan is I'm full of crap with my lack of belief in myself. My ego is plenty big! ;-)

Stephen Ritchie - I don't think you have to prove to us that gay people are allowed to be doctors. But, way to land yourself one! Lol.

Oh, Natalie. She's a beast, but she's also completely full of s*it. She knows gay people can be doctors. Me and half the country want to smack her upside the head, but she's not quite as dumb as she plays. I wouldn't ask her to watch my money when I run into the store, but a lot of this is her demented "game play."

Hell, (specific choice of word) maybe she deserves to win?

September 13, 2009 at 1:06 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

PerSemPre Me said: "I was thinking about the votes and if we assume America votes for Jordan (I Did) then I think if she takes Kevin she will have Jeff, Michelle and Natalie (since Kevin JUST betrayed Natalie she will not vote for him) then America Vote and Jordan Wins ...."

SOUNDS good -- with one teensy, weensy problem -- Kevin will have Natalie's vote if Jordan wins and takes him, because he won't have Natalie's blood on his hands.

The only way I see Natalie voting against Kevin is if Kevin wins and takes Jordan. THAT would po Natalie.

For that reason, I'm hoping Kevin wins and takes Jordan. Then, I think your scenario would play out as you suggested -- and Natalie would win zilch, nothing, nada, not even any respect from any of the other HGs. That winning nothing, imo, would be well-deserved.

At one point, I wouldn't have minded Kevin winning first and Jordan 2nd. Hoever, Kevin was so easily influenced by Natalie's inhuman treatment of all the other HGs, even to the point of becoming that nasty-tempered individual Natalie always was, that I can't vote for him to win. And, I'd rather he win 2nd over Natalie winning anything at all.

Here's hoping your desire for Jordan to win the Big Prize is a done deal.

September 13, 2009 at 1:06 PM  
Blogger Tallen said...

Carolyn that Blackeyed peas was soooooooooooo damn cool, How did they orchestrate that?? that was incredible..to be honest I was hesitant to watch it but am glad I was it....howd they do that?

September 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM  
Blogger MattitudeV1oh said...

"All we've seen of the jury house is people's initial reactions to Natalie's age lie."

I don't think that's true. When Jeff went the jury house that was a week after Russell, two weeks after Lydia and three weeks after Jessie and they all seemed to be bagging on Natalie. That's not an initial reaction. They've had various number of weeks to stew and none of them are buying what Natalie's selling.

Natalie can't beat Kevin in the finals. Jordan can't beat Kevin in the finals. The only way for Kevin to lose this game is for Jordan to take Natalie. THAT'S where the toss up comes. Both girls are seen to have done very little in the game. But even then I don't see Natalie winning since Jordan would have Jeff, probably Michele and America right off the bat. The deciding vote might be, oddly enough, Kevin.

Any way you slice it at this point in the game the finale all comes down to Kevin be it as a lock for winner or the vote that picks between the two less deserving girls.

September 13, 2009 at 1:40 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

jane said...

Caro - what really really smart guy is appearing Wednesday? It's not someone from this season!

Carolyn has already answered that but I have to comment.

I want to be Dan Akroyd on Weekend Update but I just can't type those words about you and it wouldn't get published anyway, nor would I want it to. I ♥ Jane.

Even I knew what she meant by that statement and I am usually the naive one. Poor Carolyn has been dedicated to us all summer. She deserves a booty call on Wednesday. :-p~~

Then again I have the dirtiest mind here so maybe that's why I got it immediately. She deserves it as long as she keeps her hands off my Syn and Bama's Tush. *chuckle*


September 13, 2009 at 1:56 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

I've come to the conclusion Natalie's new name should be "Stepdad" -- because she beats us, and we don't like her.

September 13, 2009 at 1:58 PM  
Blogger Coco Channel said...

Wow. That conversation is further proof of why I don't want Natalie to make it into the finals. She's going to have a hard time finding a job once this is all over.

I made a Natalie photochop last week, which turned out to be a summation of this whole season.

Check it out at:

September 13, 2009 at 2:01 PM  
Blogger jane said...

I checked out the Russell flashback. I guess now we know what his problem is, on a regular basis he has no blood left to flow to his brain.

So, Carolyn, the secret of your massive crush is revealed.

September 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

OOPS and Giggle!

Miami 7 .... Final

Atlanta 19

Not that I like Atlanta... but giggle anyway

Thought I would get a good giggle in last night but Trojans 'pulled it out' at the last minute.


September 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM  
Blogger Jeff in Toledo said...

RE: Jeff carrying Jordon

In the golf HOH, Jeff threw away, but at that point Jordan and he were tied, so she just might have won HOH without his help.

P.S. Teachers here in Ohio make 50+.

September 13, 2009 at 2:43 PM  
Blogger Julius said...

Good Day, all!!! Late in joining the party. There were some football games on today that actually count...

Thoughts...seems to this straight man that a gay OB/GYN might be reassuring for a woman. "Just gathering facts to do the job, mam. Only taking as long as I need to." I'm sure that none of the perv women's doctors of the past were gay.

The voting will be tough to figure out. I agree that the edit of teh JH response to Natalie's age has been less than flattering, but if they decide that it was sound game play, she will get votes. I's rather see Kevin and Jordan so that Natalie gets as much prize money as all of us.

Finally, regarding smart men. As far as I know, having a Ph.D. never got me lucky, for either a coffee mug (jane!) or "lucky"!!! Where are these women when you need a little diversion??? LOL!!!

September 13, 2009 at 2:47 PM  
Blogger Julius said...

Joy wrote...
"really is she faking these remarks, because nobody could be that stupid in this day and age. what would she gain by making all these bigoted remarks?"

Unfortunately Joy, yes people can be that stupid, people are that stupid, and they are happy being that stupid. There are thousands of them commenting on boards all over the Internet. Check out some of the political commentary sites, either right or left, and you will be angry that Americans can be so brainwashed. I believe that many people cruise throught college like Natalie, and they never learned to think for themselves. This why I believe that folks like Rush Limbaugh can pull $20 mil a year in salary!!! If you have a brain, you would have to dismiss at least half of what he says, no???

September 13, 2009 at 3:00 PM  
Blogger lindsayluvsbb said...


First I just want to say how cool that video was!!!!!!!! People truly are amazing!!! :) Definitely put a smile on my face!

The things Natalie says are just absurd. When she said that to Kevin about gays not being able to be doctors, she left me with my mouth hanging wide open. Although that is not the first time she has said things like that. I have also heard her say racist remarks that I dont care to reapeat as it was just plain ignorant and rude. Everyday she surpises me with more hate and lies. I really hope she goes out 3rd. I don't want her getting 1 dime out of the 50 000 or 500 000.

September 13, 2009 at 3:22 PM  
Blogger ajs221 said...

Does anyone have a clear picture of who Jordon would take? I can't figure it out...she seems so sincere with both Natalie and Kevin...I kind of think she would take Natalie instead of Kevin because he got Jeff out...I think if she wins and does take Natalie there's a chance she'll get everyones vote...maybe even Kevin's since Natalie didn't have his back with the veto and she didn't live up to all her assurances that she could beat Jordon 100%...what say you? I think the rest of the jury house is disgusted that she threw so many comps...even the last one...and everyone underestimated Jordon and if she wins the last comp I think she'll win it all....hoping hoping hoping!!

September 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM  
Blogger thomascod said...

I do not when or if this will get posted, but I strongly disagree with an earlier statement by Jess, that he thinks that Jeff was the best player. He made some huge mistakes in the game, first of all believing eveything that Kevin and Nat were saying, instead of staying with Michelle and Russel, at least until final four.

Then he made the worst mistakes ever, by not getting Kevin and Nat out, instead of taking out Lydia and russel. Jeff and Jordans game then came falling down a row of dominos.

From that point on it was like shooting fish in a rain barrel for Kev and Nat to start picking off players one after the other. Where they really miscalculated, however,is underestimating Jordans ability in part 2. I bet Nat is sorry now that she dropped in part 1 comp. She now is like a lamb in the wilderness, with many doubts about Kevins intensions now.

September 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

@ thomascod re: Natalie dropping in part 1 -- I couldn't believe she did it. For a girl who claims to be such a BB authority, and knowing everything about every season, she seems to have forgotten what happened to Barista Natalie and Kaysar. Both were hoodwinked when it came time to giving up HoH to others. Both were betrayed "immediately." Natalie claims to be such an authority, and so smart ("People think I'm young and dumb, but I'm not. I'm smarter than they give me credit for.") -- maybe she shouldn't be so quick to believe her own B.S.

September 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitz*^*^*^ said...

Hi Carolyn,
Hi All My BB Addict Buddies!

Love the video!! I LOVE that song & the Black Eyed Peas seem to always get a song that catches on & most people like. I like them a lot.

Have you ever seen the video on You Tube...DANCE TRAIN STATION BELGIUM do-re-mi The Sound of Music - Julie Andrews?
It's awesome!!!

I disagree a college degree is what a HS degree used to be and a masters degree is what a college degree used to be. There are a few fields of study this is true.

I hate the conversation about cheating but sadly it does happen a lot more frequently these days & many have the same attitude as Natalie. As long as I get thru what does it matter. But, fortunately there are still a lot who have Kevin's attitude & I believe they will go further in their careers because they will actually know what they studied.

I just can't even comment on Natalie's ignorance & the remarks she makes about being gay. She really bothered me the night of the fashion show when she kept insisting he be masculine. I was really kind of upset w/ him, at first, for not standing up to her. But, then I thought about it & he probably just let peace reign cuz he knows she will be out of his life in a few days & why confront her or argue w/ her when he realizes how relentless she can be.

This is a real strange group to try to predict what they would do as far as voting but I'll give my "I think" list. I do not believe that Jeff will vote against Jordan. He is not going to feel he carried her thru the game. He said on almost every interview that she helped him & they helped each other. And, to choose either Kevin or Natalie is not something I see him doing. Kevin stabbed him in the back, according to him, & Natalie lied all the way thru the game & he found out about the age lie which will only confirm more lies which I'm sure they have all compared different stories by now. He also does not come across to me as someone that is going to turn on her.

I do not think Jeff is dumb & if he & Jordan did get together in life he would be a lot of what she has said she wants in a guy. Except he might be too skinny, she said she likes a guy w/ a little meat on their bones, but not someone like Jessie or Russell. LOL!

All I want is for Natalie not to win a dime so I'm hoping it's Kevin & Jordan & also hoping this is the way it will go....

America - Jordan
Jeff - Jordan
Jessie - Jordan (cuz Jessie could not stand Kevin & talked for weeks about getting him out)
Michelle - Jordan
Natalie - Jordan (cuz she'll be po'd at Kevin)
Lydia - Kevin
Russell - Kevin or Jordan(could be a toss up since he might actually admire the spunk Jordan showed against him, but could also hold a grudge against her for helping get him out. But I doubt he is holding a grudge since he said he would vote for Jeff if he had made it to F2)

I don't think Jessie would vote for Kevin just because he got Jeff out. They all know by now that Natalie played the game to not get her hands bloody & they will figure out she had a lot to do w/ getting Jeff out too so he didn't work totally alone.

September 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM  
Blogger Didi said...

Hi Carolyn and everyone-
I wish Nat would just go away....

I am trying to catch up with all the comments- thank you everyone for your well wishes- just in pain and uncomfortable.

Will check in tomorrow,

September 13, 2009 at 6:31 PM  
Blogger Pamela said...

DiDi, go take care of yourself. I hope you feel better soon..

September 13, 2009 at 6:36 PM  
Blogger Production said...

Hi. If you have time, please post a transcript of the following --
11:35pm BBT, Kevin lays into Natalie for her behavior while Jessie was in the house, constantly tag-teaming with him for the stupidest things... He cites endless examples. If you'd like to go and have a look at the this, it's on cam 1.

Thanks you

September 15, 2009 at 1:34 PM  

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