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Tuesday, August 27, 2013

The Overnight Report

Good morning, BB Lovers!  Happy Tuesday!  Today in the BB15 house, Elissa will be doing her HoH Blog and Tweets, and then BB will give her the camera for HoH Pics.  What else will the HGs get into?  We'll be watching to find out! :0)

As I turn the feeds back on at midnight, Elissa and Amanda are making peace.. May their fans follow their lead..

Let's join them.

Cam 3 Elissa
Cam 4 Amanda
Backyard Couch

We join this conversation in progress..

Amanda Apologizes..

Amanda: The long and short of it is, this got to a level that I never wanted it to get to.  It escalated, and I said some really nasty things that I regret, and I'm really sorry about.  You are a wonderful person, and a loving person, and I felt like you hurt me.

Elissa: (very softly) mm hmm
Amanda: And that's why, although it's not a justification,  I reacted the way that I did.
Elissa: (very softly) mm hmm
Amanda: And I'm sorry.  I really am sorry.
Elissa: I forgive you.  I do forgive you.  I know that you have tried to be nice throughout this game and support me.  And I do forgive you.  And I do not think that that's your character.
Amanda: It's not.
Elissa: And I wouldn't say that about most of the people in this house, but I've always said that about you. I do not think that's your character.
Amanda: It's not.
Elissa: I mean, I thought it was totally bizarre..

Amanda: (laughing) I was so mad.

Elissa: (laughing) Craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.. You were dressed up as a grandma?
Amanda: Nanny the BB Bubby..
Elissa: And I think my husband's sexy, so the more people that wanna stay away from him, the better for me.
Amanda; Just throw away anything I said.  Disregard anything I said. I literally was just trying to be hurtful.
Elisa: I was laughing literally in the DR.. I was like, there's no way I'm coming out.  I was dying in there.. Could you not hear me laughing?
Amanda: I kept going in there and asking, am I breaking the rules? They're like, no, but don't touch her. I'm like, I'm not gonna touch her.. I've never been in a physical altercation in my life.

Elissa: I came into this knowing I was going on a tv show.

BB: Amanda, Elissa, you are not allowed to talk about production.

Elissa: It was the most comical thing I've ever seen in my life. I think that they called me when you were sitting out there just for the fun of seeing me have to pass through.
Amanda: I know.. I was like, there's no way she's coming out right now.

If you'd like the scoop on the 1st half of this conversation and so much more, please refer to Michigan Man's comments at the end of the previous post. :-)

12:10am - Amanda and Elissa head inside.

Cam 3
McCrae and Amanda

Amanda: She still tries to say I wasn't the target, which is bullshit, (*true) but it doesn't matter. (*also true) I kept bringing it back to, remember when Aaryn was HoH, and you were scared, and I kept telling you, don't worry.  You will not go home. I'll make sure of it. I go,  I did the same thing to you when you were gonna put up McCrae.  I sat there in front of you, and I was scared.  And this may be a game, and you think this is fun and everything, but I was legitimately scared, and you laughed at me.
McCrae; Yeah.
Amanda: Whatever. And then I..

12:12 - Elissa comes back out.  They hug.
Elissa: McCranny.. hehe
Amanda: I wish I'd have thought of that earlier.

Elissa sits down and puts her arm around Amanda. They couch hug..

Amanda: I'm glad we talked.
Elissa: Me too.
Amanda: I'm sorry.
Elissa: Me too.  I'm sorry to McCranda. I wasn't trying to break up the showmance.  I was just trying to insure my safety.

A couple minutes later..

Amanda: Do you feel accomplished?
Elissa: Not really. I can't wait for Thursday to get here.
Amanda: That's what everyone keeps saying.

Elissa: So you think I'm not getting a pandora's box?
Amanda: They never measure

Checking the quad..
GM's in the bathroom, tending to her weave. Amanda's getting an education. (me too)
**honestly, i'm mesmerized.

Backyard Couch
Spencer, Judd, Elissa, Aaryn

Aaryn: do you remember Janelle's intro in her lingerie?  She was a cocktail waitress and she was serving in lingerie.. I wanna meet Lane too.
McCrae: He was one of my favorite from 12.
Spencer: He seemed a little dry.
Aaryn: I thought he was so funny, and cute.  Oh my gosh.. I'll go on a date with Lane.
Spencer I hope you have beautiful children.
Aaryn: No, I'm marrying Frank. I'll go on a date with Lane.

Talk turns to the BB12 cast..
Then the feeds..
Aayn: (softly) Oh my God.. I saw a screen through the kitchen sink window.. and it was a close up shot of you talking.. it was so weird..
Elissa: I see that all the time.

BB: Aaryn, Elissa, you are not allowed to talk about production.

Judd: I'm deifnitely watchin' the feeds next year.  I was gonna watch em this year.
Spencer; You don't have to. You saved $25.
Judd: That's a pretty good deal.. I've read about the feeds, and it looks like a really cool set up..

Spencer and McCrae get up to shoot some pool. Andy says he's going to bed in a few minutes. Aaryn and Elissa remain chatting on the couch..

Elissa: Hopefully we'll get some cool activity. They're doing everything so different this season.
Aaryn: I wish there were more activities, but I think because we're so dynamic, they don't even need to fill space.

They wonder if they might be getting a Luxury Comp.. Luxury Food Comp.. etc.

Judd: Let's have a pool party tomorrow, while everyone's awake.. Have all 4 girls face off, and all 4 guys..


While Spencer and McCrae are shooting pool on 3, Aaryn, Elissa and Judd are on 4 chatting about Real World on the couch..  Amanda and Ginamarie are on 1 and 2, still with the weave repair and female bonding.

Amanda heads outside and inadvertently kills the woopie cushion.  Andy goes into the bathroom to hang with GM a bit.  Elissa heads up to bed.

Andy: It seems like Elissa and Aaryn are getting along better.
GM: Yeah. But her mind is set.  I told Aaryn, you can talk to whoever you want, but.. it's not happening.
Andy: That's simultaneously really good to hear and really sad.
GM: I know.. You just gotta focus on the money, buddy.
Andy: It's exciting, moving forward. But the week you're on the block just drags..
Gm: I know..
Andy: I mean, I trust people.. but it's still just scary til it happens.

Cam 3
Amanda, Aaryn, Andy
Backyard Couch

Andy: I wonder why for the 1st time they had us try em on.
**BB had the HGs try on athletic shoes earlier this evening.  They have been speculating as to why ever since.
Aaryn: They're expensive.
Andy: It's probably gonna be before Thursday..
Amanda: I think so too.

Aaryn: A luxury comp would be so awesome. I wanna win something.
Amanda: I love him.  He's such a dirty little spider monkey. We're so opposite.
Aaryn: Do you think it'll be the same when you leave?  That you'll still love him?
Amanda: yeah.. it's the base.. Here, you learn about people for who they are.

Amanda goes to shoot pool.

Andy: So what were Elissa's reasons for why you should be on Real World?
Aaryn: She didn't give any.  I didn't ask.  After her speech, I was hyperventilating so bad, I couldn't speak.
Andy: You never know.
Aaryn: You can feel it.. I respect you more than GM.. I wanna be here but.. Elissa's smart.  That's why she did what she did.

Aaryn heads to bed.  Andy says he's not far behind.


Judd: I hope they play good music tomorrow morning.
McCrae: I hope it's Careless Whisper by George Michael.

Andy: I think it's funny that she took voice lessons and the voice teacher was like, Mr and Mrs Kim, this is not going to work.

Judd: What if Roseanne came and hosted?
Andy: That would be awesome.
Judd: Ginamarie's Darlene..
Andy: Elissa's for sure Becky..
Judd: McCrae's DJ.. Andy's Dan, Spencer's Roseanne..
Andy: Amanda's the Becky replacement.

Cam 3 and 4

Judd and Andy move on to the Full House cast, recast with BB15 HGs.
Andy: Ginamarie is Comet.
Judd: McCrae is Michelle..
Andy: No, McCrae is for sure Gia.. Stephanie's bad influence friend who wanted to get her to smoke.
Amnanda: Who am I?
Judd: Kimmy! Kimmy Gibler.

Amanda and McCrae join.

Amanda: I am not..  Let's do the Rugrats..
Judd: You're the mom.
Amanda: What's she like?
Judd: She plays a lot of softball.

Cam 1 and 2 - Weave World
Cam 3 and 4 - Sitcom Recasting..  Friends.. Seinfeld..
Amanda: (to Andy) You'd be the Kramer.


Cosby.. Family Matters..

Amanda: Who's the Erkel?
Andy: I would say Aaryn's the Erkel..
Amanda: Oh here's a good one.. Fresh Prince of Bel Air..
Andy: Let's do Madea's Witness Protection.
Judd: Diary of a Mad Black Woman.. My dad and my aunts all wanted to watch that at Christmas one time.

Spencer joins them.

Spencer: This is the thing.. I've picked up my toothbrush several times this season, and it's been wet.
Amanda: That's my worst nightmare. Even with a boyfriend.
Spencer: Marylin's like, if we kiss, I can use your toothbrush.. I bought her one of those Sonicare toothbrushes because.. Well, because I thought I'd get some, and I did.. I have a very low libido.. I can beat off any time I want.. I don't have to go to all the trouble.
Amanda: I love sex. It's important. If you don't use it you lose it.
Spencer: To what?
Amanda: What do you think happened to Barbie and Ken..

Spencer ribs McCrae for being the worst liar.. McCrae still denies he and Amanda have sex.

Amanda: Why do you care if people know we have sex? I'm like the dude in this relationship.

Spencer: Why the f*ck am I Roseanne?
ALL: Laugh
Spencer: Ginamarie would be Kimmy Gibler.
Andy: We thought Amanda.
Spencer: What about a spinoff from Full House/Family Matters?  I'll play along with y'alls f*ckhead game.
McCrae: I've seen Married with Children.. I think me and Amanda are the neighbors.
Spencer: Who would I be.
McCrae: Al.
Spencer: I'll take Al for sure.
Judd: Ginamarie could be a Peggy.
Spencer: Aaryn's deifnietly Kelly.
Judd: Who's Budd?
Spencer/McCrae: you.

Amanda: Ok, little Rascals..
Spencer: Aaryn's Buckwheat.  Do ya'll watch King of Queens.
McCrae: I don't like Leah Remini.  She's a Scientologist.
Spencer: Who gives a f*ck about her religion?!  She's on my top 5 women I'd like to f*ck.. Tina Fey, Elizabeth Shue, Marisa Tomei, Lea Remini..
Amanda: He likes funny girls..

Spencer: What if that was the Veto? Make Elizabeth Shue cum first..
Amanda: I would win.

Talk turns to Christopher Walken, briefly...  Then Jennifer Grey.. Then the actor from Ferris Beuller who was arrested for Child Porn..

Judd: I think Johnny Depp is totally overrated.

Then Cheers..
Spencer: What's that f*cker's name who played Cliff?
Andy: Ratzenberger.  He's a voice in every Pixar movie.

Checking the Quad, Aaryn's asleep on 1, Elissa's asleep on 2, Gm is in the DR, the rest are on the couch in the backyard.

Spencer's telling a story about a gay bar..

Andy: What'd you just do??
Spencer: I lit your toe on fire.

They move on to recasting another show with BB 15 HGs..

Amanda wants McCrae to come to bed.  He wants a sandwich, then bed.  As soon as they do leave, it's likely Andy, Judd and Spencer will have a bit of Exterminator game talk..

Amanda: Ok, how bout from Beetlejuice?
Spencer: I'd be Beetlejuice.
Amanda: Who would we all be?  McCrae would for sure be Lydia.
Judd: I love that movie.
**me too.
Spencer: Amanda's the Sandworm..

On to "Clue" recasting..

Amanda: Bye, assholes. F*ck ya later.
Judd: Bye..

Re-Casting continues..

Spencer: Are y'all fans of Jeff Goldblum?

**ugh.  Stretch!

Andy: A dude left week 1, 2, 3, 5..
McCrae: We survived.. Let's make Moving Company 2.0.
Andy: Yeah. let's turn all the women against each other.  That'd be pretty easy.
Judd: I'll do Aaryn and Amanda.
Andy: Spencer and I will do Gm and Elissa.

McCrae heads to bed.

Andy: Is GM in bed?
Spencer: She was in the DR.. She's probably back in the bathroom doin' her hair.

They're amazed by how much attention the weave needs.. And that she can't seem to identify her own toothbrush and uses theirs. Talk turns to Aaryn..

Judd: She keeps askin' me.. If she stays, she can go after Amanda and McCrae.. I almost wanna tell her.  It's the same thing anyone would do, but I hate when people bother me when I'm napping.
Andy: I've been talking a lot about the exterminators today.
Judd: I've almost said it out loud twice today.
Spencer: I'm about 20 seconds away from calling everybody out.

Andy: Who would've thought that Ginamarie could be our secret weapon.
Spencer: I like it. Judd, I knew that when you walked in the front door.. If that motherf'er can stay..
Andy: Yeah, I pulled him aside in like 2 minutes.
Judd: I was glad both of ya'll did.  And once Aaryn's not here, she'll be loyal as shit.
Spencer: You can also point out that Elissa single handedly took out Nick and her best friend.  When it comes the time..

Judd: Do you think it'd be smarter to take out McCrae before Amanda?

Andy: I think about it all the time.
Spencer: It might take care of itself.. whoever wins veto. He's not that good. I always fight hard.  If I'm in a Veto, I wanna win, but I've only won one.
Andy: But I almost want to know what it feels like to fight in a competition where my life is on the line.. like could I pull off superhuman feats.. I'm gonna fight my ass off for this HoH.
Spencer: We all have to.  We've all made it this far for a reason.  The Exterminators is the reason we're all still here.  You comin' back was the catalyst my game needed.
Judd: That's what I wanted.. to either fall back in with a cool group of people, or just fight it out myself.  Do you know how relieving it is to come back in and not feel like you have to appease..

Spencer: The thing about Amanda and McCrae.. Amanda has the ability, her and Elissa bond if they're both still here. Once Poopy's gone and Amanda's gone, who's he gonna work with?
Andy: I also wonder if she'd fall apart once he leaves?
Spencer: She'd have a meltdown.
Judd: That shit that went on yesterday?  If that was a uy doing that, I would cuss him out.  If she does it towards me, I'll do it right back.  I'll make her cry. But I don't think she would. For a split second yesterday, I thought she would. I don't wanna fight with them unless we just have to.  And if they get HoH next week, Elissa's their target. Elissa wanted me to work with her, but..
Spencer: If they take out Elissa next week, they take out the only ally they could potentially have. And then they can't play the next week.. So we pound em..

Judd: All she did was keep me safe, which I'm grateful for, but.. I think it worked out well, getting Aaryn out.
Andy: The only thing that would be awful is if Elissa won the veto.

They all promise to take very punishment possible, if it's that Veto.

Timecheck -- 2:23

Spencer: While I've got you for a second.. Aaryn told me that you told her about us working together as a duo..
Andy: I'm telling you right now, I honestly don't think I ever said that.
Spencer: It's not too illogical of a leap for her to think that anyway..
Andy: I feel like the only way I might have said that is if I was downplaying it.
Spencer: I believe you. I trust you.  It doesn't change one thing.  I just need to know.
Andy: I genuinely don't think I ever said anything,

2:26am Judd and Gm join..

GM: I just wanna let you know, Andy feels very special, because he's finally a part of a team with a name.

GM: She knows she doesn't have the votes.. I told her I really can't campaign for her.. I mean, I did it for Nick,, but there were so many more people.  If she relays anything she wants me to ask you guys, I'll tell you.  She's kind of grasping it now. She really thinks you're with McCrae and Amanda.
Andy: Nobody in the house knows about this.

GM continues talking. All agree they'll be nice to Elissa next week..

Judd: You're with people you don't need to explain anything to.. This is a fresh thing, but I've always like all 3 of y'all. I would be happy with anyone here winning.
ALL: agree.
GM: (say lots of words)

Talk turns to prize taking.. Judd outs McCrae for taking 5k.. None of them care who got prizes.

Gm leaves to return to the bathroom. Andy says goodnight to the guys.  Spencer and Judd remain outside.

Spencer: This might make you feel better about Helen.  As soon as they found out they were nominated, they tried to get Aaryn to backdoor me.. With Aaryn leaving, Ginamarie will totally depend on us.  We all play our social game..
Judd: I trust you the most.. I feel like we're just pickin up where we left off.
Spencer: I heard about all your final 2 deals and stuff.. But I mean, when I saw you come in the house, I was like, Judd's gotta stay.  I've been floating around this house for weeks.  I couldn't talk game with anybody.. because I was always on the block.. and whenever I stayed, people were like, you're welcome, you owe me.  I don't owe anybody sh*t.
Judd: Aaryn's graspin' for straws now, but she did it to herself.
Spencer: She's too untrustworthy. I like her.. she's easy on the eyes.. but it don't make a f*ck.
Judd: I do wish I could have trusted Howard..
Spencer: I understood why you couldn't.
Judd: I think people watching will be happy with this..
Spencer: As long as we play the middle, they'll get Elissa out next week.. and then they're fcked.

Judd again mentions it might be better to get rid of McCrae 1st.  Spencer thinks they're best off letting veto decide.

Spencer: If Amanda makes it to final 2, she'll win it. She's been a target since week 3.  You've got my loyalty 100%.  Just don't f*ck me. I'm glad you're back.
Judd: I think it's all worked out for the best. Everything's happened perfectly.
Spencer: Life is good, man.

Judd: This is my 2nd chance and I don't wanna blow it.

Talk continues..

Spencer: With Amanda, at least you know where you stand.  Helen would smile to ya, tell you she loved you, and then cut your f'in head off.

Judd heads inside to brush his teeth.  Spencer covers the pool table then into the bathroom, where Gm is still in weave mode.

**there but for genetically blessed follicles go I.

Spencer comes in and says goodnight.. Then Judd..

3am... Gm calls it a night.

And this concludes the Overnight Report.. See you when BB wakes the Hgs! :-)



Blogger Lulu (aka Stefanie) said...

Good morning Carolyn and fellow Dishers!!!
Great OR, glad Elissa and Amanda called a truce, I was so tired of the ugly behavior, even though I know that house can drive the HG's crazy, it was enough. They don't have to be friends or work together, but at least coexist without all that vulgar spewing. I am liking the Exterminators, probably because I am a Judd fan (this is no secret lol). So whatever prolongs his time in the house, I will stand behind it. And I would like to see McCranda split up (or at least feeling the heat against each other).
That's all for this morning :)
Have a great day!!!

August 27, 2013 at 4:14 AM  
Blogger Jerry said...

I think I'm confused. I just don't think Andy is out from under Amanda. If he was HOH I think he'd nominate Elissa, Ginamarie and maybe Judd.

I think Judd or Ginamarie would put up Mccrea and Amanda.

I just have no clue where Spencer's head lies. As long as it's not him going he doesn't really care. He is probably in a good spot. If Mcranda comes out on top he is still in with them, if they falter next week he has another group to go with. Maybe he is playing a better game than we are giving him credit for.

I'm beginning to think that quite a few of these houseguests are in serious need of counseling.

At any rate, looks like it might be another week worth watching.

August 27, 2013 at 5:17 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

GOOD Morning Carolyn!!!

Notice that I emphasized the Good. I'm so happy that it may start to get better in the house and better for you, who has to read all of our comments. I am also glad to be seeing more Amanda support. Before I even started reading (and so far I have just started) I had another comment in mind.

Michigan Man and some others have commented that this season is no different than things that have happened before. I agree. I remember things that made my jaw drop in past seasons. Maybe it's more constant this year, or maybe there were more bad apples. But it has always happened.

Last night I saw an entire blog dedicated to Amanda about facing the consequences. Then I saw another tweet about her losing her job and a petition to get her off the show.

I realized that through 15 seasons, what I have realized is that all of these people that fans are trying to protect don't need are protection. They are fine once they leave the house and sometimes even become friends with the target of their animosity. Elissa will be fine. Amanda, and a few others, may not be.

What we see on the feeds seems to affect us far more deeply than it affects the HG's. What we, as fans do, affects the HGs far more than they affect each other. And it's not the loving fans, it's the hateful ones who have the biggest impact on their lives once they leave.

I would write a note of support or congratulations to someone I rooted for. I would never spend my time thinking of something hateful to say to someone I did not like or starting a petition to ruin their lives.

Some people feel that because we can see the things the HGs do that are wrong then we have the right to demand punishment. I'm not sure who thinks they have the final say of what punishment is proper for each perceived wrong. But would those same people feel they had the right to pass judgement on every person they cross paths with in their daily lives? This is a game, it's not reality. That is not to say that some of the behaviors are not real, but would someone peak through neighbors windows or spy on people at their place of employment. The HGs on BB are no different than people you may work with or live next door to. I am sure these same kinds of things have happened on shows like Survivor.

The only reason we are even aware of what these HGs have done is because BB offers an experience no other television show does. It gives us an real, inside look. I love the ups and downs. I love to be happy, sad, tense, frustrated and even angry. Then I like to come here and talk about it with other people who enjoy the show and compare opinions. If someone is taking this opportunity of watching the feeds and feeling so upset by them that they feel they have the right to wish harm or punishment on a stranger, I think they need to take a deeper look within themselves. I would suggest starting by turning off the computer and stepping away from the feeds.

August 27, 2013 at 6:21 AM  
Blogger Karen Caskey said...

Good Morning Carolyn :) :)

BIG HUGS TO YOU !!!! So sorry your having a rough time right now ..........just keep your head up and know that you are loved and RESPECTED by your loyal readers and you are AMAZING!!!

If it wasn't for you being you and doing what you do for all of us :) I would be on lost BB fan for sure.

You keep being you girl !!!!!!

August 27, 2013 at 6:33 AM  
Blogger Cecilia Bahsler said...

Thank you Carolyn for all your hard work. I wake up and before I go to work I always read the overnight report.

August 27, 2013 at 6:36 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


One more thing I wanted to add that really did not sit well with me.

Judd said Johnny Depp is overrated. I'm with you Carolyn. Blasphemer! (And I think my daughter would agree even though Mr. Depp is old enough to be her father.)

August 27, 2013 at 6:42 AM  
Blogger Yasmin said...

Good Morning Carolyn and BB Fans!
It's a new day!
A breath of fresh air of forgiveness permeates thru BB hs.
Amanda(sincere) and Elissa(hmm maybe not so much) have apologized to each other, forgiven and are moving on..... so can I.
I appreciate and respect everyone's opinion even when mine may differ, Thank you Carolyn for providing a safe site to which we can all have a BB voice! Have a great day !

August 27, 2013 at 6:49 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

I am trying to put my head in game mode. Sometimes I think Andy has played a brilliant game and sometimes not so much.

It is assumed that Aaryn will go this week and everyone thinks someone will take out Elissa next week. GM seems to be a disposable piece on the chessboard which would make it even funnier if she wins. That leaves Andy in the middle of Spencer/Judd and Amanda/McCrae because they are going to target each other.

Andy can try to pull a big game move by slaying the dragon of McCranda (good for jury points) or make it to the end being loyal to people that were loyal to him all through the game (also good for jury points.)

Realistically it comes down to those final comps. Neither duo is going to choose Andy as their final 2 because they are convinced he would win because everyone loves him. Instead of basing it on a big move, I would be looking at which duo I thought I could beat in 2 out of 3 of the final comp.

As a fan, I always root for loyalty.

August 27, 2013 at 7:03 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...

Judds been lame since he came back IMO, scared to play the game. The Exterminators are one pathetic alliance, Pawn Stars would be more fitting.

Elissa apologized I guess, but I always thought an apology needed to be sincere

August 27, 2013 at 7:42 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Well, even with a turn for the better in the BB house someone has wasted no time in putting a new video montage on you tube. "The bullying of Elissa by Amanda"-so far it's up to 3 parts. I would rather concentrate on something better in the lull of semi-peace.

There is a REALLY good article about racism not only on BB, but on television in general. I never know for sure which links I can share. It made me realize things I hadn't thought of before.

August 27, 2013 at 8:03 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


Pawn Stars

HaHa-that would be an awesome name for their alliance. If I did twitter I would see if we could get it trending.

August 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM  
Blogger Pammela said...

Good Morning Carolyn,

Good Morning BBDishers,

I was reading TOR and a comment was made,

Judd: I think Johnny Depp is totally overrated.


Have a great day, now back to the TOR...hehe


August 27, 2013 at 8:18 AM  
Blogger Angela Barker said...

First and foremost, thank you Carolyn, for not only suffering through conversations I can't do myself and then transcribing them, but for your dedication to this craziness every summer.

I've stated before, this is the first time I've had the feeds, but I've been a lurker on this site for several years, shoot, I'm still a lurker and am always hesitant in posting anything. Then, in order to comment, I had to create a google account. I almost didn't do that, because quite frankly, I dislike google very much. And in my stating that, I should warn you that I'm extremely opinionated, however, I do listen to other people's arguments for the sake of a good debate. That being said, here are my 2 cents on the debacle that is Amanda.

As someone who dealt with bullying as a child for being over-weight, I felt for Elissa with Amanda's antics. I don't listen to the feeds 24/7, so I don't know what, if anything, Elissa did to "provoke" such retaliation from Amanda. What I do know is, Amanda is mad that Elissa wouldn't do what she wanted and so she proceeded to make her life a living hell. Though I don't agree with her tactics, and the fact that they did not work, we could see the outcome by the fact that Elissa laughed at her and/or ignored her and left the room. Guess what? As a kid, that's what my mom told me to do, walk away, or laugh in their faces, because that just makes your tormentor even more mad and they know they haven't gotten to you, which is exactly what Amanda was hoping for. If Elissa had started crying or thrown her hands up and said "okay Amanda, I'll do what you want me to do", would it have stopped? No, because bullies don't stop. And that is exactly how Amanda was acting, as a bully. Now, I'm by no means giving my full support to Elissa, because personally, I think she's kind of an airhead sometimes, but these nominations are a work of genius. Do I think she's been nice to everyone? No. Does she have an attitude of being better than everyone else? Yes, and quite frankly, it's that attitude that got her through Amanda's behavior. If it'd been anyone else, there would have been words flying back and forth, possibly fists. So the fact that Elissa thinks she's better than Amanda, actually works for her in this situation and I say good for ya! I don't have a problem with Amanda trying to play mind tricks, either. Her annoying behavior yesterday while Elissa was fixing something to eat was reminiscent of Evel Dick, however, as a fan of ED (whom I follow on twitter), the problem with that comparison is, Amanda doesn't even know who ED is. And Dick's antics were usually to save himself or his daughter. Amanda's antics were just out of spite. There was no game play with that yesterday, she isn't on the block, she took McCrae down, so it's not like she was trying to save him and being after the POV ceremony, there was no logical motivation behind it. It made no sense. Now, I'm glad to see in the OTR that her and Elissa talked and apologized and they can hopefully move forward. But I was getting tired of reading how great Amanda's game play was, comparing her to ED and how Elissa asked for it. Amanda's game play has been good, up until Sunday, she's nothing like ED, so people need to quit saying that and no one deserves that type of behavior, no matter who they are, including Elissa. That's just my very opinionated opinion.

Now for this sub-debate about Johnny Depp, I agree with Judd, Johnny Depp, eck to look at, but he's a good actor. :-)

Thanks for listening. And thanks again, Carolyn, for all or your reporting. And I feel like I know all of you as my friends, Grendon, Gaytor, Michigan Man (go Blue!), Shi Shi, everyone. All of the regulars. I love reading what everyone has to say even if I don't say much myself.

August 27, 2013 at 8:33 AM  
Blogger Donna Walsh said...

I have no right to speak for fellow dishers, but I think I do when I say how grateful I am for you! I love this site and check in many times a day (even on your sunday sanity break just in case):) I cannot begin to imagine the grossness that gets tossed in your direction through comments. Its not fair and you don't have to put up with it, but you do for us and that makes you awesome!
That being said.......why don't people understand what these hgs go through. If cameras caught my every action all day long im sure there are many things I would be dissapointed by. Add to that being stuck in a house with ppl you on a real life basis would try to avoid and mix that in with being totally disconnected from family, friends and ACTUAL REALITY I cant say I wouldn't fly off the handle, And say ugly things i would regret. Its not easy to admit you were out of line but amanda did and I think all the haters need to give her credit.

August 27, 2013 at 8:34 AM  
Blogger Angela Barker said...

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August 27, 2013 at 8:34 AM  
Blogger plasticgoat said...

What has been driving me crazy the past few days is Amanda's language and her use of one particular word that begins with the letter "c" when raging against Elissa. That word is not acceptable to me as a woman in any way, shape or form and I find myself having a very hard time finding any respect for Amanda.

August 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM  
Blogger joyusangel said...

Good Morning everyone! I am really having a hard time understanding why Elissa can forgive Amanda (who treated her so horribly) and McCrae, sit and laugh with them, and tell them how much she likes them, tell's GinaMarie how wonderful she is, (she who is at least as bad if not worse than the other 2 females) yet absolutely has no time for Aaryn at all (not that either deserve it). All 3 are disgusting persons, but for some reason Elissa chooses to believe Amanda's apology, but not Aaryn's, and accept GinaMarie's racism as ok.

August 27, 2013 at 8:36 AM  
Blogger Diana64 said...

My prediction for next week

If HOH is
Judd or GM: Amanda and McCrae
Amanda or McCrae: Elissa and Judd
Spencer: hmmmmm Amanda and McCrae
Andy: I think the only way we will know for sure is if he actually is HOH and has to draw the line. It would make sense for him to go with the exterminators since he would have the numbers, but he may be thinking that he's lost Helen's vote already and that he doesn't want to lose two more jury votes.

So the most interesting scenario to watch would be Andy winning HOH. A less stressful one to watch would be Judd winning (so I can be 100% sure Judd stays).

August 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM  
Blogger Angela Barker said...

And this is why I hate google. I just typed a really thought out comment and when I signed into google, everything I typed was gone. Don't know if it went thru or not.

August 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM  
Blogger Lulu (aka Stefanie) said...


Wonderful insight. You always speak so well. I think it is a huge waste of time and resources for these people who create hate sites for contestants or sign petitions...it really is sad.
Sure, I will "hate" a contestant during the season for gameplay or even personality, but I know it's a TV show, and even though it is reality, it isn't always the real person. I always end up following on twitter people whose games I hated, and now I adore them (ie Shelly and Ronnie). It's part of the game to chose those you root for and against, but it really makes no sense to me to devote your time and energy to making life bad for those HG's you don't like.
Worse than that, I think it's unfair to the likes of Carolyn (and any other BB fan sites) to have hate spewed in her comments section. I hope more people realize this.

August 27, 2013 at 9:04 AM  
Blogger Suzie Kelly said...

Good Morning Carolyn!!

I am hoping Judd pulls the HOH win and puts up the showmance couple for noms.

Having Andy win the HOH so soon after hopping on the "terminator" train could be disastrous for Judd.

August 27, 2013 at 9:12 AM  
Blogger Yasmin said...

Wake up Arryn it's time to get to work! You have a big day ahead of you....lots of scheming to do!
That little seed of doubt (Andy's loyalty)working with Spencer and Judd, needs watering.
In order to make it grow , you need to bring in GM. She can confirm he is now loyal to exterminators! To sell this to Gm, she needs to realize she is being used by them and she could go further with her. With Arryn still in the house they can work together, both have better odds in the comps (another selling point)and Arryn has done a lot for A&M in noms, vetos and votes. Now both need to sell this to Amanda and McCrae.
Bunnies forever!!!....LOL

August 27, 2013 at 9:21 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Grendon said...
I would suggest starting by turning off the computer and stepping away from the feeds.
August 27, 2013 at 6:21 AM

Grendon it is amazing that you said that just as I am sitting here today about to decide to do just that. Maybe not for the exact reasons you gave but my reasons give the same end result. Quit Watching.

Every season I have my ups and downs with the game. This 15th season have had a much bigger percentage of downs for me. And I think the older I get, the less tolerant of things/people I become. This season seems to be a double dose of everything my entire existence is against. Out of this group of 16 people I can't say I admire a single one of them.

Some have done less nasty things than others but is that criteria I want to use when deciding if I want to watch? I need to find something more constructive to do with this 3 months of my life every year. I've spent 14 years watching this show so one year it was worse because we had a shortened winter season due to a strike.

I'm not going anywhere. I'll still be here reading and commenting but my comments won't be about what I personally saw on the feeds. My comments are rarely about that anyway so few will even notice the change.

Carolyn I don't know how you do it. Seriously. You have the longest fuse of anyone I know, IRL or online. We have no idea what you really go through because you moderate the comments and we never see them but I can imagine, having been a moderator years ago, before I found you, at another site. Many probably know the site I am talking about because nastiness is one of its claims to fame.

Everyone that comes here does so because over the years we have learned that you have no tolerance for the rule breakers and you won't subject us to their vileness. We truly have become a family and care about each other. I've even been lucky enough to meet some in person and it has always been so much fun to do so.

Anyone reading this should stop right now and Hit That Tip Jar for so many reasons I won't try to list them. But multiple times a day I see commenters say how much they love you and love this site. I've hit it once this season but you will see that I do it again next Tuesday, maybe sooner if payday comes early due to the upcoming holiday weekend. For the rest of the USA it will be Labor Day. Here in New Orleans it's that too, but it's also one of the biggest circuit parties for the LGBT world, Southern Decadence.

One of my best drag sister friends is a Grand Marshall this year so it will be extra special to join the parade on Sunday as Tami Tarmac blows the whistle at 2 pm sharp and leads us through the streets of the French Quarter in various states of dress, or in some cases, un-dress. The route is kept secret to all but our police escorts. They get the route because many years ago one grand marshal decided to take the crowd though St. Louis Cathedral... during Mass. Ever since, while we are kept in the dark, the police get to know in advance. It's a wild weekend of partying of every kind. Some will have simple or elegant cocktail parties or dinner parties at home while others will be out on the streets doing things you can't even imagine. I can, because I've been a party to the later back when I was young and dumb and full of.... GIN. Yea.. gin is what I was full of. Gin.

OK. I am all over the place with this one. Even worse than usual and I suspect very few are still reading my ramblings. I need breakfast and medication. I need to check in to see if I am even in the right comment section of if I am going to 'get got'.


August 27, 2013 at 9:21 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


Thank you.

August 27, 2013 at 9:23 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Happy Tuesday!!

Good morning, Lulu! :) Meee too!!

Good morning, Jerry! :) I think it all depends upon who wins HoH. And I think we can expect to see Andy throw it.

GOOD morning, Grendon! :)) Thank you very much! and an extra teehee for JohnnyD!

Good morning, KarenC! :) Thank you so much! (((BIG Hugs!!)))

Good morning, CeciliaB! :) Thank you!

Good morning, Yasmin! :) I'm breathing deeply of it, while it lasts. ;) Thank you very much!

Good morning, Jumbo! :) Pawn Stars -- heheh :)

Good morning, Pammmmmy! :) hehehehe!

Good morning, Angela B :) Thank you very much! You should AWLAYS feel free to state your opinion here in the full knowledge and confidence that you will Never be harrassed for it..

Good morning, DonnaW! :)) Thank you very much! It can get pretty hairy.. but there has to be one safe place on the internet.. and I'm committed to keeping BBdish that place.

Good morning, Plasticgoat! :)

Good morning, JoyusAngel! :)

Good morning, Diana64 :) I could be wrong, but my gut says Andy throws this HoH.

Good morning, SuzieK! :

August 27, 2013 at 9:33 AM  
Blogger Debra Mark said...

I think that Amanda has played a good game and has many fine qualities. I think she and Elissa as well as many house guests have said despicable things. The only reason that I am against Amanda now is that just as Amanda got Judd evicted due to her jealousy and fear of Judd's relationship to McCrae she will continue to target Judd. I want Judd to win. I believe that it is on Judd's best interest to have Amanda gone. Thanks Carolyn for all you do!!!!

August 27, 2013 at 9:38 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Yasmin hehehe :)

Good morning, GayTor :0)

August 27, 2013 at 9:39 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Good morning, Debra :))

August 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM  
OpenID Nora said...

I like to read this blog but unfortunately the opinions that don't match the bloggers don't get posted. I done it more than once, and since I support Elissa and wish Amanda was evicted my comments don't make it. I will no longer come to this blog and will not recommend to anyone else either.... Good Luck, there's other bigger and better blogs without bias

August 27, 2013 at 9:55 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Good morning, Nora :) It's not what you say or who you support, but how you say it.

Keep it civil or keep it to yourself. It has always been thus.

Happy trails.

August 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM  
Blogger Jerry said...

Carolyn I agree that Andy will probably throw it. We could be down to the final four and I think he would still say it's too soon to make a big move. :-)

Grendon, I don't know what has happened to our society. Maybe it is the advent/expansion of the internet and social media. I think the overwhelming majority of those spouting vitriol are jus that, spouting. But their is a small group that seem to take this stuff way too seriously and act on it. Maybe it's time to end this type of show. I don't know.

As for Johnny Depp, overrated!!!!

August 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM  
Blogger Cortneechiwa said...

Good morning all!

I just want to say that there are qualities about each houseguest that I like - some have more redeeming qualities than others. We say it all the time, but they ARE in an intense "pressure cooker" environment and I don't think it's fair to judge them on their behavior in the house. I don't think us as viewers will ever truly understand what it's like to live in that house.

About 4 years ago, I got to meet and talk with a former HG, and that conversation changed how I have viewed all HGs since. She said she lost her shit in there and acted out in a way that she was really embarrassed about. I actually didn't like her on the show because of that, I thought she must be a bad person to act that way but it turns out she isn't that way at all. She said the hardest part of the whole experience was getting out of the house and realizing how much her family was affected by it and how much she hurt them. She said that it took her and her dad months to work through that. I really felt for her because I know it was never her intention to hurt her family and she was really so sweet - how could I dislike her for the way she behaved in the game? My point is, these are real people, in a very intense environment and I just hope people can give them the benefit of the doubt. There have been some really nasty things said in the house, things that some HG's have lost their jobs over, but I will not judge them for those comments. I know they have some tough times ahead once they get out and I can only hope they'll learn and grow from the experience.

Carolyn - I'd also like to say a big THANK YOU to you. I have seen some really abhorrent comments about the HG/HG's families on message boards, Twitter, etc. and I'm so grateful that we have a place to read about this game we all love so much without so much hate from angry "fans".

August 27, 2013 at 10:01 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Carolyn blogged...
Judd heads inside to brush his teeth. Spencer covers the pool table then into the bathroom, where Gm is still in weave mode.

Sowing in the morning, sowing seeds of kindness,
Sowing in the noontide and the dewy eve;
Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves.

Bringing in the Weaves, bringing in the Weaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves,
Bringing in the Weaves, bringing in the Weaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves,

Sowing in the sunshine, sowing in the shadows,
Fearing neither clouds nor winter’s chilling breeze;
By and by the harvest, and the labor ended,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves.

Bringing in the Weaves, bringing in the Weaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves,
Bringing in the Weaves, bringing in the Weaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves,

Going forth with weeping, sowing for the Master,
Though the loss sustained our spirit often grieves;
When our weeping’s over, He will bid us welcome,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves.
Bringing in the Weaves, bringing in the Weaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves,
Bringing in the Weaves, bringing in the Weaves,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the Weaves,

August 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

GayTor -

Thank you so much, hon. xxoo

"I'm not going anywhere. I'll still be here reading and commenting but my comments won't be about what I personally saw on the feeds. My comments are rarely about that anyway so few will even notice the change.

Carolyn I don't know how you do it. Seriously. You have the longest fuse of anyone I know, IRL or online.

We have no idea what you really go through because you moderate the comments and we never see them but I can imagine, having been a moderator years ago, before I found you, at another site. Many probably know the site I am talking about because nastiness is one of its claims to fame.

August 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Cortneechiwa! :) Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! And thank you very much!

August 27, 2013 at 10:08 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...

Judd is blowing it by not wanting to blow it. He is playing way too safe for this point in the game

August 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM  
Blogger Jerry said...

Can we have an Amen for Gaytor!

August 27, 2013 at 10:16 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Nora -

I actually saved your comment that wasn't published, and I'll tell you why it wasn't published.

You said, "...I can't believe people still want to support Amanda. Are there no decent people out there?"

It's not acceptable on BBDish to attack or belittle anyone/everyone whose opinions differ from your own, irrespective of who you support. That's all.

August 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM  
Blogger Kyra DeBlaker-Gebhard said...

This happens every year. The last person I want to be evicted, or win POV, or win HOH inevitably wins. The person I root for is sent packing and I'm left trying to find some other sympathetic guy or gal to support. I try to be fair when I assess who it is that will get my support. It's a game and it's stressful, so I'm sure that plays a lot into how people behave. I'm sure that Elissa is a little judgemental in her every day life, can't we all be, but I also think the house has pushed her over the edge, too. I know I'm bothered by how freely people talk about recreational drug use and other topis. And I'm by no means up tight. I just think... millions of people are watching! You mother could be watching! A future employer could be watching! As for Amanda, I was a big fan in the beginning, but rather than think she was funny and loyal as the game wore on I thought she was mean and a bully. Her DR sessions lead me to think that she is more power hungry then she is loyal, though I do get there could be some heavy editing and setting up her responses. She seems genuinely angry when things don't go her way, which makes me think her loyality isn't so much a "wanted to get the group to the end" but rather loyal to get her to the end. I don't know. There have been a lot of despicable characters this year. More so than years past, in my opinion. And I'd be lost without Judd to root for. Andy had me until he turned on Helen. Spencer. Ugh. GM. Double ugh. I'd love to see McCrae play without Amanda, but to really see his game she needs to go soon. This lost focus. Yay, Judd.

August 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Psst! :)

It's wakey wakey time! Keep your eyes peeled for a new top post.


August 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM  
Blogger brnidgrl said...

Good morning (well, afternoon here on the East Coast), lovely Carolyn & awesome Dishers!
So glad to see that that conversation between Amanda & Elissa took place! I am happy to put aside my personal
animosity towards Elissa - if Amanda can, then who am I to hold a grudge? For me, the seminal moment of last night was at about 9:05 (or so) BBT, when Amanda was in the Chair Room w/McC & was honestly crying about how badly she'd behaved. Pretty sure this was the precursor to the conversation in the BY, as you could see that she seemed to be genuinely upset about how she'd treated Elissa.
To Nora at 9:55 AM: I'm truly sorry you feel that way. I couldn't disagree more. Carolyn has clearly stated that she's keeping her personal opinions to herself right now, plus, I've personally seen lots of differing opinions here. It's pretty simple: Follow the rules for posting & all is well. Good luck to you.
Ditto GayTor, Courtneechiwa, and all who have Thanked You profusely, Caro! There aren't enough Thank Yous in the world some days! :o)
Courtneechiwa - thanks for sharing that tidbit about the former HG. I'm sure they all have things to deal with when they get out that aren't always pleasant. Things that no one truly understands but a former HG. It's like Survivor - they have a bond from this shared experience that is so different from any other & that will never go away.
Game-wise at this point, I would LOVE to see the Exterminators get outed & Andy to hit the jury house this week. Don't get me wrong - I love Andy, but there aren't many left who could beat him in F2. If they don't all realize that sooner or later, it WILL be too late & they'll be virtually handing him $500,000.

August 27, 2013 at 10:31 AM  
Blogger Alexandra said...

Good morning, all. A huge thanks to all you do, Carolyn! You really give the most comprehensive overview there is. And I have never had a comment, no matter what side or opinion, left unpublished.

Is there bias in the very nature of blogging? Of course there is. Unless someone is transcribing 24/7, it is at the blogger's discretion what to highlight. And we all see different things as important. As a perfect example, in your section about Amanda and Elissa, you thought Elissa's "mmhmmms" said something while I focused more on the fact that Elissa actually apologized multiple times throughout the conversation. And how immediately afterwards Amanda ran to McCrae to say, "I got Elissa to apologize" for which he saluted her. Same outcome, different parts of the conversation that we saw as telling.

I think we all interpret things in different ways and think different aspects of a longer scene matter more. But, you are always faithful to what is said, which to me is invaluable when compared to other sites. Again, thanks so much for what you do, it is truly amazing.

August 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


I have often wondered if modern technology would be the end of us all. The phenomenon of bullying anonymously has made it far too easy to spread the hate.


If you are still reading I can only assume you have not been reading the comment section or are scanning through looking for your name to see if your comment has been posted. There are a lot of people on this site who support Elissa and Carolyn does post their comments.

August 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM  
Blogger August said...

Andy is the biggest floater that is not playing a good game. Amanda is a bully and has to have her way or she throws a tantrum, not good game play in my book. Elissa or JUDD for the win please.

August 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM  
Blogger Shannon C said...


Thank you as always for what you do. I have never felt that if a persons opinion don't match yours, you will not post. You just make sure that we are all nice to one another while posting, which is what makes this site great. It is also what has helped me feel welcome here, no matter how much or how little I post. Thank you for that!

GaYToR, I loved your post this morning! You always have a way of making me look at things differently than I might have.

Grendon, I agree with you as well. I think we do all need to step away sometimes.

Bye for now everyone!

August 27, 2013 at 10:47 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

New Top Post! :0)



August 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM  
Blogger Susan Efird said...

I posted a comment on another blog about Elissa grating on my nerves with her "vocal fry", and how much I disliked Aaryn in the beginning but was surprisingly starting to root for her now. A person commented that I must b a truly awful person to root for anyone but Elissa....
Really?? Truly awful person??...because I don't like the same person as u on a REality show??
Thank u for moderating comments. When I see a post where someone likes Elissa, I certainly don't think to put them down! I may not agree...hehehe

August 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM  
Blogger cyninbend said...

Cortneechiwa, that's what I try to keep in mind when I do the BB thing every summer!

Lulu said it well too...we get into "hating" the enemies of the peoploe we "love." Do we really love them? I don't--I don't even know them! But I love the character the are on the show, maybe the friends they made and game they played...I relate to their path.

And for the summer, I dislike the behavior of others. I "hate" them. But of course, that said, it's not real life hatred--I have no idea what they would be like if I met them. I would NEVER NEVER want bad things to happen to them in real life! If something did, it would break my heart. Yes, right now, I hate Elissa, but next week she could be Amanda's best friend, and whatever happens in the game or who wins, I want her to be happy all of her life and have a fabulous marriage, a wonderful family. In September, my "hatred" will be over, I won't ever feel badly toward her again. That's the way it is every year--often I cannot even remember their names or what they did.... I think that's the way it is for almost all of us--if we say anything, it's how we "hated" them, past tense! Who ever says they "hate" Maggie from season 6? Of course we don't feel animosity now. Yet emotions were very high then, and people did the same overboard thing, trying to hurt her real life.

You see, even the HGs we "hate" on are stars and give their summer to our favorite show! How can you love BB if you think anything cruel in real life about those who star on it?

I cannot believe the people who translate the show into bad behavior in real life actually are fans of the show. I think they are disturbed people who create the drama to put themselves in the limelight, or get a feeling of power over someone who on the show appears to have power, in a way they think America will let them get away with. Read real life bully here.

Anyone who watches BB for a few seasons learns that these HGs create pretty strong bonds with each other. THEY become friends. And will side with each other against any fool who thinks it's cool to attack their employment or families, etc. We must be careful not to take BB words into the real world...easy for most of us, who let it all out posting and forget about it as we switch to real life. But for some people who aren't quite mentally balanced, they take everything way too seriously. It's scary, and make me feel badly for letting my emotions go in the context of watching the show or feeds. But I let go, and know the difference between real life and BB. I can't tolerate people trying to work concepts of "good" and "bad" and morality into the game. They are usually the same people who believe bold-face lying about other HGs is completely without issue. Always a funny dichotomy...if that's the word?

I wish CBS would have a 30 minute clip on the feeds and let blogs play it, where past and present HGs could talk about what cortneechiwa said that HG told him, perhaps a word on how some people get carried away and a warning to those that might that they will all be friends in the end and your attacks are not appreciated by those you think you defend. Perhaps if the HGs ask people not to attack their enemies for them, this sort of thing could be stopped before it gets started each year? It would require CBS caring, but isn't that what they claim to do?

Sorry to pontificate...it just got me...

August 27, 2013 at 11:23 PM  
Blogger ChattyCat said...

Helen & Elissa tried to tell Aaryn that McCranda would turn on her, after she did all their dirty work for them. And now they are. I always vote for the underdog, and I hope that Judd and Elissa stick together and make it to the end. I hope whoever wins HOH next puts McCranda up - and Amanda goes home. She needs to go to the Jury house for a while to give her time to reflect on all her words and actions and prepare herself for the re-entry into the real world and everyone's reactions to her.I actually feel kind of sorry for her, because to be that hateful and rude and mean . . .there must be a reason deep down for that. Go Team Judd & Elissa.

August 28, 2013 at 7:57 AM  

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