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Monday, September 7, 2009

The Overnight Report™

Good Morning, BB Lovers! Happy Labor Day! I hope you've had a wonderful long weekend so far!!

Today's the day the HGs figure out that all will not be going to the schedule they've become accustomed to this season. They're expecting the PoV Ceremony to happen today, and it's not gonna! It'll be happening live on Tuesday night - Right before the eviction and then straight into the Waterfalls and Cockroaches Final 3 Endurance Comp they go.

***No, I don't have confirmation on Waterfalls and Cockroaches. I'm just putting that out there into the universe... Who knows? Mike O. could be a reader! :)

Natalie was even rehearsing her speech for the PoV Ceremony last night, and she's planning to take full credit for Michele's eviction, although the HoH actually has no power this week at all.

Anyhow, I just went to check out the eBay Daily Deals, and there are some really good ones today! My fave: 7 pairs of 8-9mm pearl earrings for 19.95! Talk about a sweet deal! That's the direct link for the earrings, so even when they change the daily deals for the day, you'll still have access to those.

***Just checked back, and as of 8am BBT, they've changed the daily deals to include cool new stuff. Check the link for a sweet deal on Wii Sports Resort.

Checking in on the Big Brother Related Auctions, there are quite a few new ones up for grabs, including hats signed by BB8 Nick, a really cool new limited edition signed shirt from Renny, and more BB11 items from Ronnie. The HGs are always adding new stuff there, so it's a good idea to keep an eye on this link for your favorites to pop up.

Over in the BB Wrap Party in Vegas area - In addition to the package with Casey, more have been added with Diane, Nakomis and Ronnie.

OK.. On to the Overnight Reporting I go... See ya back here with it completed by around 8am BBT!

Try as I might throughout the 12am hour, there's just nothing worth repeating... The hour starts with Michele pulling a Jordan in the jacuzzi - bra and panties as a bathing suit. Jordan goes inside to hang on one of the beds in the Haves Room, while Kevin and Natalie play cards... Occassional chatter... then Michele's outside working out.

1:04am BBT
Haves Room
Kevin & Natalie
Cam 1

Playing cards... Natalie pitches to Kevin that she thinks she won't have Jessie's vote, due to her engagement.

Natalie: I'm actually really worried right now that you have more votes than me in the jury house.
Kevin: You need to calm down with that.
Natalie: You know (inaudible). I don't feel like it's an even field right now.
Kevin: You're trying to make me feel better by saying that, when you know darn well Jessie...
Natalie: No, No, you know it too, Kevin.

***Kevin, you may want to take this for the neon sign it likely is: She will dump you and not take you to final 2, given the option, and this will be her justification.

Kevin: No, I don't. I know that you have... No, I don't.
Natalie: It's the truth. (inaudible something about Jessie)
Kevin: That means that the entire game you've been lying to all of us, saying it's a brother-sister relationship. Wouldn't a brother be happy that you're getting engaged? If it wasn't brother-sister, then it was boyfriend-girlfriend. Then he would be pissed off about you getting engaged. Brother-Sister, then...
Natalie: Well, that's just the way that I would analyze it to Lydia, but it was...
Kevin: Was it brother sister?
Natalie: I never felt like that, no.
Kevin: It was boy likes girl.
Natalie: It was boy likes girl, yeah.

1:09am BBT
Kevin & Natalie, cont'd.

Natalie lies, telling him how she anguished over the decision to leave him high and dry again in another comp...

Kevin: It was so annoying... I was annoyed, not only because they were annoying to us, but because I couldn't figure it out.
Natalie: They were nasty.
Kevin: I know. All that was just to f-ck with us.
Natalie: So it looks like the last Pandora's Box was more beneficial to the house...
Kevin: No, the 1st one was.
Natalie: That's what I'm saying. And this one was more beneficial to me, however, you got $600 last time and didn't have any penalties. I got to spend time with my loved one, but I didn't get to play the Veto.
Kevin: You didn't need to though, because you were safe anyways.
Natalie: Correct... but it's not about me being safe, it's about...
Kevin: Yeah, but...
Natalie: Cuz that was what I had to go through... Cuz right away, when.. Before I made my decision, I had to say the scenarios. Like, well, I don't wanna open it because, even though I'm safe, I'm not just playing for myself in this game. I have an ally. I have Kevin, and I'm playing for him too.
Kevin: Right. That's why I...
Natalie: Cuz, like, I even had to say, like, why would it not be good... and then I had to say why it would be good... because it would give me strength and motivation to get through the next competition, you know.
Kevin: mm hmm
Natalie: I had to do all that... (back to cards for a couple minutes, then) They knew I wasn't gonna say no, and they knew he was gonna propose.
Kevin: mm hmm. It was so scary though, cuz me n Michele were sleeping, and all of a sudden, you see this big dude hoovering (sic) over us? Mama? I was like, omg omg omg omg. I kept saying, don't touch me, don't touch me. And you could tell, they're not allowed to touch you. Or they're not allowed to trap you in a corner, cuz I was like, I'm trapped! I'm trapped! And they had to let me like...

Talk turns to the final 3 HoH Comps... They're quite sure they can beat Jordan in any and everything.

Natalie: It'll probably be like some puzzle... Dude, I think you and I can beat her in anything. I mean anything!
Kevin: mm hmm

They do a little bit of Michele bashing - the HG sport of the season. Then Natalie launches back into practicing her speech for the PoV Ceremony... the one she wont get to deliver, because it'll be live, she's not the PoV holder, they'll be pressed for time, and Julie will likely cut her off.

This continues til Michele comes in, having finished her work out, to grab a change of clothes and then leaves the room. FYI, Jordan's sleeping in the Pool Room.

A couple minutes later, Kevin asks Natalie which comps she actually tried to win. The only 2 she fesses up to throwing are the Graduation Day (endurance) and the S'mores (also endurance). See that flashing neon sign, Kevin? It's for you!

Time moves on, and they lie to each other, saying that each was always a part of the other's ideal original final 4...

2:04am BBT
Haves Room
Kevin & Natalie
Cam 1
Kevin: Dude, I've made it through this whole game without ever having to pack my bags.
Natalie: I know, bastard.

Kevin doubles up his mattresses... Chatter for a few minutes, then back to the Veto Ceremony speeches... Both of their speeches are directed more towards the current jury members than anything else. Natalie is trying to discourage Kevin from saying anything that might help him in the game.

Kevin: I need to figure out what I can say, too. I wanna make mine short 'n sweet, but to the point? Cuz it is an opportunity that you can't pass up.
Natalie: Yeah, but you can't address something directly to somebody without having a, you know..
Kevin: mm hmm. No, I was thinking like..
Natalie: They'll even cut that sh-t out. If it's not for anything, that'll get cut out.

***omg! lol. Pot, meet kettle.

Kevin: No, I need to set up something? So...
Natalie: You could set up like last week.
Kevin: O just need a little tme to (?). Not for Jeff, but for the rest of the house, cause he's gonna vote against me for sure.. like, that motherf'er...
Natalie: Well, you cold set that up. Set up last week. What your role was.
Kevin: Right, so that way I can kinda make that like...

Michele enters...

Kevin: Whooo! Girl! What's goin' on?
Michele: Little spa magic.
Kevin: A little mime action.
Michele: hehehe, yeah.

Chatter about face masks and product. Then Michele leaves to go shave her legs...

Kevin and Natalie continue talking until just after 3am, when Natalie decides to go up the the HoH Room and allow Kevin to sleep. On her way out, she tells him to come up in the morning, so they can go practice their speeches...

This concludes the Overnight Report™, and as of 7:45am BBT, the HGs are all still snoozing.

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Blogger Jill said...

I appreciate you blogging for us BB11 fans, but would you please consider type left justified. I cannot read your conversation text when it is centered. It's killing my eyes. Please consider typing all convos left justified.


September 7, 2009 at 5:54 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Morning, Jill -

I do type everything left justified. What browser are you using?

September 7, 2009 at 6:02 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

i just checked it in google chrome and mozilla, and it looks fine (left justified) on both...

September 7, 2009 at 6:03 AM  
Blogger loved1 said...

Good morning Carolyn...awesome job this season, as usual!!!

Could you prejudice your recapping to give me any hope that J/M will be final 2....PLEASE?

I just do not like the thought of either of those other two being in it and at this point, I have given up hope of an evicted HG returning. (Jeff preferably, but I would also take Russell....mmm yeah)

Is anyone else disgusted b y the arrogance of K/N? I cannot figure out if they are just plain mean or completely delusional...either way, they make this season a hard one to swallow.

When do you think the HG will get a heads up that Tues is a live eviction and so on? I hope they just make it all happen and do not tell them, but i know they have to do the stage thing with the memory wall, get camera ready and lock down, but I can dream...lol

September 7, 2009 at 6:10 AM  
Blogger loved1 said...

On IE it is left justified for the commentary but centered on the comments....no idea why

September 7, 2009 at 6:11 AM  
Blogger fancyp said...

good morning all didnt the nat engagment thing seem like a poorly acted scripted play I think we the viewers are the biggest losers this year I wouuld not be surprised to see a plane fly over that house that says the viewers are the ones being [GOT GOT] this year For some reason I feel they are making fools of us God himself could not make me believe that was true or a surprise

September 7, 2009 at 6:22 AM  
Blogger JudyG said...

Good morning Carolyn,

Thank you again for your blog. I was out of town yesterday and didn't get to watch the show. I have to admit that I am so over this season when N/K took control and am praying for a miracle. (Go Jordan or Michele)

I just voted on-line and saw that texters can vote a max of 10 times, but did not see if there is a limit for online voters, do you know? I'm somewhat torn, because I love Jordan, but have not seen any real game play on her part, so I voted the first time for Jeff. I was hoping on-liners can vote more than once.

Thanks again for EVERYONES hard work and sore typing fingers.

September 7, 2009 at 6:27 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Hey all. I woke up early to pee this morning and couldn't fall back to sleep, because of all things, I was thinking about Natalie.

I came into my mind, that in some ways she has been judged too harshly. Or at least judged without all the context.

I started to think about how she was raised by her dad alone with no apparent female influence. It seems to me she was taught to be extremely strong willed (her years in the martial arts is testament to that alone) and was also coddled and protected. She gets away with saying she is 18, because emotionally, in a lot of ways she is. She's a belligerent, self indulgent, self righteous teenager, and has no sense of humor about herself. But at the same time she is loyal (to those she is loyal), confident, and single minded. She obviously deeply loves and cares for her father.

She plays this game as if it really were a game (not a social experiment). This is literally a poker game to her. She overlooked that the pieces are humans not cards. She lacks the sensitivity that comes with maturity.

Except for the few well planned and very narrow lies she sticks to (and seems to almost believe herself), her lying is mediocre at best. She gets pompous and blustery about speeches and ways to manipulate, and then is awkward and sort of foolish, or just doesn't follow through. She has a lot of big ideas (not very nice ones) and mostly comes off laughable. Come on, the outfit and speech about Michele being the devil. They laughed at her. Only she took herself seriously.

I'll wrap this up, but I could go on. She's a brat with a mean streak (like a high school girl), but for the most part she's harmless and silly, and probably outside this live poker match she thinks she is playing, a decent person.

Though thoroughly obnoxious, she's played a good game. Not so good she deserves to win. But she also got lucky. Despite yammering to the contrary, BB is not fair.

September 7, 2009 at 6:32 AM  
Blogger Sassy Sis said...

Morning Carolyn!!!

September 7, 2009 at 7:02 AM  
Blogger Gee1964 said...

Good morning everyone! I have been an advid fan of this site and all it's posters for several years and read it daily. Thank you all for taking time out of your hectic lives to keep us all up to date on the happenings of the BBH!
Just wanted to say, can you believe how Nat & Kevin just 'appeared' in the final 4??? Who'd a thunk it!!! These two did absolutley nothing the first month and a half...(except Nat, who crawled up Jessie's bumm during that time! LOL
I feel so bad that either Michelle or Jordan will be going home this week. If Nat & Kevin are as smart as they think they are, it'll be Michelle. Kevin has proven himself to be a very competitive player the past month though. I wish Jeff had stuck to the F4 plan (he, Jordan, Michelle & Russ). That would be a finale worth watching. Since it is pretty obvious Michelle would be going home this week, I can only say WHAAAAAAAAA! I'm crying like the little baby that came out of the storage room! LOL
Let's say the F3 will be Nat, Kevin and Jordan. Who would take who? (or whom!!) Nat couldn't win against either, IMO. But as much as I loved the Jordan/Jeff combo, she didn't have much of a 'game'. Still love her though. Kevin appears to be the sleeper of this season. Althpugh I'm still back in the Casey, Jeff, Jordan F3 mode, I'm torn with the decision of America's vote $25k. I'm very much leaning towards 1) Jordan-her family really needs the money 2) Casey-a family man 3) Jeff-Just an absolute doll who would be able to manage the moola. What do you think?

September 7, 2009 at 7:09 AM  
Blogger Lynn said...

Good morning Carolyn,
It could be an interesting day in the BB house once they learn that there day is not going to go as planned.

September 7, 2009 at 7:09 AM  
Blogger Southern Sweetheart said...

Good Morning and Happy Labor Day to you too Carolyn! :) I hope you have a wonderfully relaxing and happy day!
(For the record, I use Chrome, Mozilla and IE (when I'm forced) and everything appears left justified for me too)

September 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM  
Blogger Pally said...

Good Morning Carolyn**{\O/}**
A Blessed Memorial Day to You and All.
Was the Copy-Cat Little Person the twin son of the 'Zolaughs' (I'm guessing the name and spelling) from the tv show on TLC with the family on the farm with two little people parents and three average sized children with the exception of this one twin?
His voice, youth, and hair color was a sure match.
Carolyn I love love love your side bar comments on the show dialog. Sometimes I'm sitting at work and bust out a belly laugh. Too fun!

September 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

good morning sunshine.

September 7, 2009 at 7:22 AM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Good Morning Carolyn, Genie, fellow BB addicts

Happy Labor Day!

Every time I heard Nat practice her new speech last night I laughed since we know she won't get to give it. As big a fan as she is you would think she would know how this goes but oh well.

She is spending the money already and I think, I hope at least, that Kevin is paying attention. Kevin has one last move and keeping Michele is it. He doesn't even have to team up with her for her to get Natalie out. If Natalie became the last jury member getting kicked final three I would be so overjoyed I don't know I would do. Happy dance for sure :)

Didn't see much else happen last night besides rehash so I'll be looking for some fun flashbacks today.

Let you know when I find something good.

Have a great day everyone.

September 7, 2009 at 7:27 AM  
Blogger Marci said...

Good Morning Sweet Carolyn!

Good Morning Dish Lover Buddies!

Oh, I can't wait until the HG's (really just Nat) finds out her HOH will be cut short and there is an eviction tomorrow.

But, I sure hope Kevin keeps Michele! OK, I can dream?

He, IMO, would have a better chance with jury votes, if he took M instead of Nat.

September 7, 2009 at 7:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Morning Carolyn,

Good Morning Genie,

Good Morning BB Addicts,

I can hardly wait to see N/K when they find out no POV today. I wonder if they will tell them it is a live show tomorrow. hmmmm.
I hope Kevin wakes up to see nat is using him. I would love for him to vote for Michele to stay.

As for the proposal, I thought that was really weird, they acted like strangers together. Another hmmm.

September 7, 2009 at 7:34 AM  
Blogger auntiemartas said...

I hope Kevin smartens up and votes Jordan out. I want Natalie out of that house and I think that is the only way it will happen. To have watched the show the entire season, to have watched Flashbacks, devoted tons of time to it only to have the one person I dislike the least to win will really piss me off! LOL

September 7, 2009 at 7:37 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Good Morning Carolyn!!!

Darn it! I had my chance to call you a wuss but I can't do it. I wussed out too.

After soaking my feet while watching the show, and eating a man-sized portion of jambalaya, twice... I went for BBAD and a chance to put my aching feet up for a much needed rest. 11M shoes fit my feet but 10W's fit so much better. It probably didn't help that I really hadn't broken in said shoes and wore them twice in 2 days... and they have 4 inch heels. What a girl won't do for her craft!

Anyway I wussed out too so you get a pass today.

What an interesting show last night. I don't know what to think about Natalie's bf. She doesn't deserve him comes to mind first. I deserve him as do all men except Jessie. Besides, I have this thing for blondes.

Her lack of excitement makes me wonder if it was all to gain her some followers that live for romance and showmance on reality TV. It makes me feel the whole thing was contrived. Did they even kiss or just hug? I don't want to have to go back and watch again, although I might just to get in some more "Jason" perv time. even though I paused and hit rewind every time we got a good body shot of him. He definitely has a nice body under those clothes. DQTD was drooling too. He's the one that noticed Jason had a nice bubble butt.

My favorite part of the show last night was the complete deletion of "This is for you, Chima!" which Natalie repeated it several times when she won that crap shoot HoH on the live show. Now THAT is what I call a good edit.

Now my question is, when she talked about her bf/fiance after, why did she keep saying 'Jessie told me' then quickly changed it to her 'bf'??? Freudian slip because she wished it had been Jessie? Things that make me go hmmmm.

Kevin's DR sessions last night gave me hope, but if he feels that way he certainly isn't showing it in his actions. Is anyone capable of telling the truth this season? I'm thinking they even lie to the DR, or AGP is doing better edits than I ever thought they were capable of by pulling out those short excerpts from the long DR sessions. Makes me wonder if they are reading from cue cards in those instances.

Did I say Good Morning? Well Good Morning Carolyn, Jill and everyone else that has commented before me besides Jill, and they just aren't published yet.

Only duty today is an airport run in a few hours then my butt is planted in this chair until our own post-Finale party. Well, other errands too, but as much as I can be here.... to harrass Syn and others, I'll be here to do it. :)

Syn I was not breaking Rule #6 last night when demanding my ♥. Demanding is the key word there. You OWED me a ♥ and I got it... even with that weak disclaimer you attempted. :-p~~

My GaYToR ways... Never whine! Demand isn't a rule... yet. *giggle*

Now, I'll just make this a really long one (Ohhh? Did that sound dirty? It was supposed to since I was talking about Syn. *chuckle*)

jane said...

Genie - I know I'm brilliant, but I'm not psychic. Hehehehee.

Jane you got that right... you are the brilliant one. I claim the psycho part for myself. Oh? Did I read that wrong? Isn't psychic and psycho the same thing? It is in my book, and I am proud of my 'psychoness'. It makes me who and what I am, whatever that is.

Now sooooo much to catch up on. I think there has been over 1,000 comments posted since my last round of catching up. This should take alllll day... maybe week.

I have to search thoroughly for the answer to my question about the size of Syn's 'ring'. Syn if you haven't answered, I haven't quit asking. I'll break you eventually. I've done some bronc busting in my day. I'll ride 'til you subside. You know I will so you might as well just answer the question. *teehee*


September 7, 2009 at 7:48 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Good grief Charlie Brown! I have 7 tabs of Dish and Dish Comments open. Yes, it will take me days to catch up.


September 7, 2009 at 7:50 AM  
Blogger Julius said...

Many thoughts this morning...

I won the lotto. I won the lotto. This will affect my game play. Better lie about it... Of course everyone thinks she is lying about being engaged because she is not acting like she is engaged. No joy. No teary eyes. No wedding talk. Nothing different. Just focused game play. Perhaps this is what 24 year old tae kwon do champions are like? Yea, I won. Big hairy deal. Next.

And has anyone in televison history had such a chance to look human and screw it up so bad? She is like a robot!!! Even R2D2 had more emotion than her!!! She must be a hot one in bed, eh??? Oh, that was great. Good night. Yeah, yeah, again tomorrow... LOL!!!

I believe that her and Jessie got along so well because they both love the same person: themselves!

Kevin is in a pickle. Do I stay true to Natalie and look like a loyalist to the jury house crowd, or do I think about Kevin (finally, after talking in the DR about it long enough!) and keep Michele who will help me get rid of Natalie and help me win at least second place? PLEASE, Kevin! If Natalie wins the final HOH, you are toast!!! If Jordan wins, you are toast!!! If Michele or you win, bye, bye, bye to Natalie! Wake the hell up, boy!!!

And we thought that Jordan was a floater before...She is really along for the ride now...

September 7, 2009 at 7:56 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

I turned on BBAD about 1/2 hour in-Jordan, Nat and Kevin were sitting around the jacuzzi talking about Michele and Kevin kept smirking (no, not smiling, it was an actual smirk). Needless to say, I decided not to watch. I figured if anything earthshattering happened I could catch it on TOR.

I've had to face the very real possibility that there could be a Nat/Kev F2. And with Nat's engagement twistie and Kevin planning to propose to his boyf, there could be a possible double engagement. This would be my ideal scenario:

(Nat's boyfriend): After watching the feeds this season, I realize you really do have much more in common with an eighteen year old girl than a twenty-four year old woman. I'm sorry, but you are too immature to be getting married.
Also, realizing how easy it is for you to lie and cheat and steal...well, frankly it gives me the chills. I am left wondering how much of our relationship has been based on a lie. I'm sorry but I would like my twistie back.

I don't want Kevin's relationship to end. Nine years is a long time. But I would like him to get a little punishment for 'behavior unbecoming', so for him, I would like to hear this speech:

(Kevin's boyf): You left for BB with a sweet and genuine essence. You left as my soul mate and the man I love. You have been returned to me as a spiteful, vindictive person with the essence of too many lies and too much venom. Your soul seems to have been snatched away as soon as you forgot that you really are NOT one of the girls.
You seem to have forgotten the part of yourself that made you a strong, independant, intelligent individual. I cannot accept your proposal at this point. I would like you to enter rehab. Once you have been cured of your case of 'dumb bitchitis' we can have a future together.

I know that was really long, but the feeds start to get boring at this point so I had to entertain myself.

September 7, 2009 at 8:05 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

loved1 said...

...either way, they make this season a hard one to swallow.

I've never had an issue with that, but I must admit I am 'gifted'. :-p~~


September 7, 2009 at 8:10 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Good morning, everyone!! :)

I'm scooting over to sbux for the fix, before they wake the creatures. :)


September 7, 2009 at 8:22 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


I don't like to disagree with the 'posters' on Caro's site because I have been reading and loving you all for a long time. And I am sure that there are many of my opinions that other's would not agree with.

You said about Natalie: "She's a brat with a mean streak (like a high school girl), but for the most part she's harmless and silly."

To me, she does look silly. In my opinion, she has made a complete fool out of herself. But those brats with mean streaks that you meet in school are bullies. And if they are not either taught the proper way to behave, or knocked down a peg, they turn into adult bullies. Frankly, I have considered Natalie a bully all along.

I, for one, do not find people like her harmless. My daughter has been bullied and believe me, it starts way before high school. I, as an adult, have developed a little 'toughness' and someone like Natalie would not even come close to bothering me. But a lot of people can be harmed by someone like Natalie and I would not be surprised to find out that some already have been.

September 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM  
Blogger Vicki said...

Since Kevin has hooked up with Natalie she has basicly cut him off at the knees. She treats him so badly and he takes it. She is gonna do nothing for him nor is she gonna take him to final 2. He has become a horrible person since he has been hanging with her. He needs to think about himself and keep Michele and vote out Jordon who wants to go to jury house anyway. This is your game to win now Kevin keep Michele and she will get rid of Natalie.Send that girl packing to jury to be with Jessie K/M final2

September 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

From Kevin's hopefully truthful DR session he has to know keeping Michele is his best move. I likeish Jordan but she is not comp winning material for F3. Michele could be a great ally for Kevin if he really wants to get rid of Natalie. I still keep hope alive and will until the eviction is announced tomorrow night. A Kevin/Michele has been my hope for F2 for some time now. Time to work some voodoo on that boy.

Southern Sweetheart said...

Good Morning and Happy Labor Day to you too Carolyn! :)

Carolyn is going into labor today? I didn't even know she was pregnant. I fully expect the baby to be named after me. GaYToR is such a perfect middle name. Not that I am the baby daddy but I'm just sayin'.


September 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM  
Blogger loved1 said...

Have mercy, I think I entered this convo where Jeff and Jordan left off on that Wed. night....lol
Gaytor, you crack me up...thank goodness I have already drank my pot of coffee, otherwise, my laptop would be drenched.

The comments this morning have been so wonderful and full of spite/spirt...lol I am not sure which at this point, but I do know...Nat seems like the most ungrateful wench I have ever met. If someone I loved got down on one knee and proposed...I would have been overjoyed.

I went to FB to watch the Wed. night sequesnce once more, something kept bugging me and I could not put a finger on it, until....bam, I heard it this time and am sure of something that has been eating at me about J/J.

I have put together this little clue card about Jordan's past and her character and have come to the conclusion, I was right about her. I am now happy...lol unless of course Jeff is to dense to read the same cues as I did about her. We need a follow up on this season...like what happened to so and so and where are they now...Carolyn is that in your job title? lol

September 7, 2009 at 8:25 AM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitz*^*^*^ said...

Good morning, Carolyn!
Good morning, Genie!
Good morning, All my BB Addict Buddies!

Happy Labor Day!!! Hope everyone has a good day off & if you have to work hope it's an easy day!!

Thank you Carolyn, Genie Sea, JulieB, Pamela, Gerri, Gaytor, Patti, Danyelle, Tallen, loralei72, Michigan Man, KScooterFox, Syn, Marci, Lisa M., Andrea, katieblue, for all the birthday greetings & to anyone I might have missed. I read thru yesterday's comments & there were a lot last night I had a wonderful day & night. Got home exhausted but had to watch BB that I recorded. Well, Nat actually did tell the truth after having to get herself out of hot water. I knew the minute the announcer said a HG would have a life changing moment that her story was true. But, dang, it really did seem fake to me. There were so many signs that pointed to it not being real. But, I went back & forth several times. She said at one point either right before or after the proposal she gave up a lot re: the game. I thought that was strange. When she left him she didn't say, I love you & he has just proposed! In her defense (can't believe I'm doing this) but she might have been incredibly overwhelmed & rushed & knowing cameras are on you in such an intimate moment might have made them both feel kind of strange. So, that could be the reason why they weren't very relaxed or it seemed stiff.

I just cannot believe Kevin & Nat might very well be F2. Still makes me sick. I dreamed Kevin flipped things & sent Jordan home & kept Michelle. Thinking he could do better in F2 with her & JH votes. Wish he would wake up.

Even though Nat did tell the truth she has not redeemed herself to me in any way. Yeah, she's been pretty smart w/ the way she lies but it's her mean streak that I just cannot get past.

I was hysterical during that stupid Nom ceremony. She looked so freakin' dumb in that outfit. I was so glad they laughed at her.

September 7, 2009 at 8:28 AM  
Blogger lacey said...

Morning all.....

The best thing about last nite on BBAD was when Michelle said she wants to see Nat get voted out, because she wants to see her cry. She admitted it was mean, but not to worry Michelle, it was sooooooo deserved.

I hope someone talks to Kevin before tomorrow. To remind him that it is the time of the game when all deals and loyaltys are out. This is alot of money, and he has to do whatever he thinks will get him that money.

Unfortunely, I really think the truth is, he can't win against anyone except Nat. I don't think he can win against Jordan or Michelle. But if Jordan or Michelle get to win the final HOH, I only hope they sent Nat packing. I know Michelle will. I will be a happy person if Kevin sends Jordan home tomorrow nite. I hate to say that, but I feel Michelle has the best shot to win HOH.


September 7, 2009 at 8:30 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Jane's disturbing post about Natalie left me with many question, the first one being 'what drugs is Jane on this morning'.

Jane I accept she had no female influence as being one of her problems and my personal view on that is it stunted her growth as a woman. My biggest question is who taught her to lie about everything when the truth would actually make her look better in so many instances.

I know lying is a part of the game but there are liars, and then there is Natalie. Sure she has slipped up many times and the HG's never seem to catch it. Either they are instructed by AGP to let it go or the whole cast this season aren't the 'sharpest crayon' on the box.

I prefer dumber than a sack of rocks.


September 7, 2009 at 8:32 AM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitz*^*^*^ said...

I think the reason I had that dream of Kevin keeping Michelle was all his DR sessions. He says so much negative & he doesn't trust Nat but then when he walks out of the DR he is all about being with her to the end. He confuses me a lot. I guess I am hoping he will act on those thoughts he gets in the DR & keep Michelle. I love Jordan but feel Michelle deserves to play it out to the end.

September 7, 2009 at 8:33 AM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

If Natalie decides to send Kevin packing to the jury house he can do a lot of damage to her by spilling the beans to the others.

I do not like how this season turned out but should there be another I will be right here to keep up on what is going on inside the house.

They haven't shown the sound bites about being a houseguest next year yet, do I see an All Stars in the future or is AG going to just call it quits after this fantastic season?

September 7, 2009 at 8:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jane, I don't disagree with anything you said. I try to remember the little motherless girl she once was. With regard to the comment "She lacks the sensitivity that comes with maturity", however, I really don't think she will ever get the sensitivity no matter how old she gets.

September 7, 2009 at 8:54 AM  
Blogger lacey said...

Hey all...

I agree with you about Natalie. She is playing the game like poker but has forgotten (or doesn't care) that she playing with people who have feelings.

I think she has been indulged all her life, and therefore the arrogance. She really thinks she has been loyal and true, and has played this game with integrity.

I can't help but think that CBS is aware of the fact that alot of die hard fans are tuning out because of her, and did that whole thing with PB and her BF to soften her image. Did it work for any of you??? Didn't do a thing for me.. Maybe if she had been warm and fuzzy to her BF, but I think her reaction backfired.

By the way Carolyn....I like the type centered just fine.


September 7, 2009 at 8:57 AM  
Blogger NzingaB said...

Good mornting e'erybody. Happy Labor Day to all. Carolyn, I'm sorry you have to work today to keep all of us happy.
I would just like to say that this was my first season with you and I have thoroughly enjoyed this site so much (even though I only found it halfway into the season as I was in Peru when the show kicked off). Carolyn and Genie, you 2 ladies have done a magnificent job of running a fun and addictive site that I run to first thing in the morning and drag myself away from in the morning.
I am already eagerly awaiting joining you for the next season of BB (unless, I get chosen to be in the house).
Much love and appreciation for all that you do!

September 7, 2009 at 9:01 AM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitz*^*^*^ said...

I'm off to have lunch with a friend & see a movie.

See you all later & everyone have a great day!!

September 7, 2009 at 9:02 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

I'm back! :)

September 7, 2009 at 9:02 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Have fun at the movies, MsFitz!

September 7, 2009 at 9:02 AM  
Blogger curlerchick said...

Natalie is going to be soooo upset
when she finds out her HOH has been cut short.

Things that make you smile!

September 7, 2009 at 9:04 AM  
Blogger MG said...

Morning All-

I agree with you Grendon regarding Natalie. I personally see nothing to "justify" her behavior.

Everyone has had "something" in their life to overcome.

We all have the ability to choose how we behave just as we all have the ability to choose who we like and don't like.

This is a game, but I would never choose to play it like Natalie. I also choose to dislike Natalie.

Will I stop watching BB if Natalie wins? No, because I choose to continue watching and dishing here. For me the game includes BBDish.

September 7, 2009 at 9:07 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Happy Labor Day, Everyone!

Good morning, loved1! :)

Good Morning, FancyP! :)

Morning, JudyG! :)

Good Morning, Jane! :) Great post!

Good Morning, Sassy Sis! :)

Good morning, Gee1964! :) Thank you!! :)

Good Morning, Lynn! :) Yup!

Good Morning, SouthernSweetheart! :) Thanks!

Good morning, Pally! :) To me, he looked like the same guy from BB8... Thanks!

Good morning, Brook! :)

Good morning, Michigan Man! :)

Good Morning, Sweet Marci! :)
Oh, I can't wait until the HG's (really just Nat) finds out her HOH will be cut short and there is an eviction tomorrow.


Good morning, Pamela! :)
Ditto, Ditto, Double Ditto! :)

Good Morning, AuntieMartaS :)

Good Morning, GayTor! :) hehe, wuss!

Good Morning, Julius :) Thanks for the heads up re IE :) Agreed re the engagement scene... It was like a chapter of "She's just not that into you."

Good Morning, Grendon! :)

Good morning, Vicki! :)

Good morning, MsFitz! :) I'm glad you had a wonderful Bday! :)

Good morning, Lacey! :)

Good Morning, MIchelle in IN! :)

Good morning, nnewblogger!

Good morning, NZinga! :) Thank youuuu!! :)

September 7, 2009 at 9:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


So glad you had a wonderful day and evening.

September 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Good morning, MG! :) - Awww!! THank you!!

Good Morning, CurlerChick! :) hehehehe - yup!

Good morning, Andrea! :) - I still think it was the same actor who did the home invasion during BB8 - a stich in time saves 9... wearing the purple hat... carrying the big time piece.

September 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Reposted for Andrea, per #7

Andrea said...

Good Morning..errr...Good Afternoon Carolyn and Bloggers ;) Happy Labor Day :)

I had the same question as an earlier poster did.The copy cat...I am wondering as well if that was one of the Roloff twins!! Sure looked like him..lol!!

Here's to hoping like a fanatic that the upcoming endurance of "Waterfalls and Cockroaches" comes to be true!!! Nat is seriously in need of leaving the BB house...ugh!!! Hope everyone has a fantastic day today :)

September 7, 2009 9:11 AM

September 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM  
Blogger NzingaB said...

No, seriously. Thank YOU. I start a new job at the end of the month and I'll be hitting up the tip jar as soon as possible in appreciation.

September 7, 2009 at 9:15 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

yayy! :) thanks! & congrats on the new job!

September 7, 2009 at 9:15 AM  
Blogger loved1 said...

Can we move on to next season yet? lol

I miss the fun in the house, b ut every season seems to get dull about this time. I have alwasy thought they need to split the feeds between the BB house and the JH. However, that would mean watching Jessie and Lydia...uhmmmm change of mind...lol Just can't handle that picture.

September 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM  
Blogger (MnM)- Michelle said...

Jane I have thought the EXACT same thing a few times.

I just can't help it,she is not 18 she is 24
& I can't stand her lol

I know people with sad childhood stories,Myself included & we don't act like that.

but looking at the BB game,as a game of deceit.She played it well in that area.

lying aside,I still don't like her.She is Mean & cocky and seems to ENJOY lying,that is weird to me.


September 7, 2009 at 9:23 AM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Morning Everyone! :)

I am in the midst of giving my house a good cleaning, laundry and prepping for my first day of classes tomorrow... UGH! Where did the summer go? Well, half of it went to summer school, and the other half here!

I am so behind! But I will be in and out today!

Have a great Labor Day everyone! :)

September 7, 2009 at 9:25 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

I have to applaud Carolyn for her ability to do a complete roll call in her delicate condition.

How far apart are the contractions, Carolyn?

I haven't seen Genie yet this morning. I hope she isn't your Lamaze coach.

I'm trying to spread the rumor that you are in labor.

DQTD has wanted to have a Labor Day party for 28 years now. Theme: Going into labor and spitting out babies. No one ever thought his idea was a good one though. *snicker*


September 7, 2009 at 9:28 AM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Wow aren't you all long winded and chatty this morning LOL

Good Morning Carolyn ♥
Good Morning Genie and RepX ♥

Good morning everyone! ♥♥♥

Gaytor - you survived Decadence!! I didn't think you'd make an appearance until tomorrow at least!

No more comments from me for the moment...I need to read all the novellas LMAO

September 7, 2009 at 9:28 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Speak the devil's name and she posts.

Good Morning Genie my ♥!


September 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Did Genie just post that she has a big behind? That's the way I read it, but we all know I add and delete words as I read so I have material to work with.


September 7, 2009 at 9:31 AM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Morning Gaytor! ♥

Yes! I have junk in da trunk! hahaha But I wasn't talking about that! Me? A Lamaze coach? Nope!

I was actually in the process of exterminating dust bunnies... :)

Just sat down with my second coffee before I tackle the bathroom :)

September 7, 2009 at 9:43 AM  
Blogger PrincessPat said...

Does anyone else think this PB was a sad attempt by CBS to gain some sympathy for Natalie? I mean now that the J&J showmance is essentially over they bring in Nat's boyfriend to propose on TV. They know the viewers love a romance and knowing that Nat will be in the final 3 and has a chance to win *bleahhhh* it would make a good story. "BB11 houseguest gets engaged on the show". Does anyone else feel this way?

September 7, 2009 at 9:44 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Good morning JulieB!

I think I am still on a high from the great show last night. I was up at 8:00AM My Time. By this evening I may be dead to the world and it might last into the show watching party tomorrow night, or maybe even longer.

I never know when I am going to crash and burn after a weekend such as this.

But, I didn't do all my usual SD party routines this year. I conserved energy for the shows. I've seen the SD Parade and the fun costumes every year except Katrina and Gustav years since 1986. I know my friends got fantastic pics.

Speaking of pics. Our friend from Dallas actually got video of me last night that ends hilariously and totally last second improvised. He will be posting it soon after he gets home. I'll be sharing the link for those who have wanted to see a Zsa Zsa d'LaHor performance.


September 7, 2009 at 9:45 AM  
Blogger Julius said...

RE...Labor Day...Our third was actually born on Labor Day via induction..Grandparents came to watch the first two and the doctor was free, well, not busy...

Boy, what a lively crew today!!! Too funny!!!

And Carolyn, again, thanks to you and all of your minions for their work here!!! Will hit the tip jar when I find work!!! You all have helped me through the summer!!! Can't wait for next season of BB...

September 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM  
Blogger Marci said...

Hiya Genie!!!!

September 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

Good morning all!!

Had a wonderful day at my Mommys yesterday and got home uber late but still came on to read and catch up.

I managed to watch most of the show with a little heckling from the Mom :0) She is not a reality tv kinda lady so don't hold it against her :P

I was super shocked that Natalie was telling the truth - wow! I never knew she even could.

The big question i have is what is a biznatch? Is it a b*tchy snatch or just another way to call someone a b*tch? I asked as many ppl as i could and no one seemed to know so figured maybe someone here would.

September 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

G1964....If you really want to vote for the person who needs and deserves it you will vote for Michele! Michele does not have any money. She makes less money than a school teacher as well as all her education loans. They have a car that barely runs and she can't afford to buy clothing. Did you see how little she brought into the house? Everyone was giving her things to wear.

Besides she just plain out played everyone while enduring some of the worst behavior I have ever seen! She essentially played the game alone as even her best allies J/J talked bad about her behind her back and treated her with distain at times. Remember how they ignored her and wouldn't speak to her at times. We won't even go into how she was treated by Russell, Jessie, Natalie, Kevin, Lydia calling her crazy bitch to her face and having to endure all those horrible speaches on national tv.

Of course, this is just my opinion but you have to give the girl credit for being strong!

September 7, 2009 at 9:48 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Grendon - I was only talking about Natalie in the context of the game. I really have no idea what she is like outside. I could speculate. I don't think the personality traits they display on the show are absent in their real lives, but much less obvious.

I was comparing Natalie to a high school bully in the house, basically harmless there. Like they picked up a high school bully and placed her on BB. In the midst of adults in the BB house, she is mostly harmless. I.E. she hides things, calls people the devil. While annoying, maybe hurtful for a moment, and marginally effective, in this context they are mostly harmless. Stupid, obnoxious, deserving of a swift kick maybe, but the damage? Eh.

Real high school bullies in high school (or with children whatever age) are entirely different. They can cause severe emotional and physical damage. I didn't mean to literally compare the two.

But feel free to disagree, these are just my opinions that I throw down on the computer. They aren't fact, and after more thought even I sometimes disagree with myself. In fact I am willing to retract the comparison to high school bully because it's a bad one.

September 7, 2009 at 9:51 AM  
Blogger nolegs41 said...

Did anyone think that Natale's atitude towards her boy friend was a bit odd? She didn't seem to excited about the proposal, and she looked really uncomfortable when she was kissing him. jmo

September 7, 2009 at 9:53 AM  
Blogger confused said...

Hello everyone! I'm trying to figure out something Nat said last night. When she was talking to Kevin in the hot tub they were discussing how they wanted the 3 final HOH comps to go with Jordan. They decided that Nat would throw the first endurance comp to Kevin so. She said she would wait about 30 minutes after J drops and then drop herself. Later Nat was talking to Jordan in the hot tub and Nat said she was going to throw the endurance comp to J. Nat encouaged J to fight to beat Kevin. Why would she want J to fight like hell to win that comp? It will only make it tougher for Kev to win it.

September 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Morning Jill, loved1, fancyp, JudyG, Jane, Sassy, Gee, Lynn, SOuthernSweetheart, Pally, Brook, Mr. Flashback, Pamela, Auntiemartas, Julius, Grendon, Vicki, MsFitz, lacey, Michelle, Nnewblogger, Nzinga, culerchick, MG, MnM, JulieB, PrincessPat, Wendylady, Shi Shi, and Marci!!!!

erm... I love being called a minion... *looks for her pitchfork**

September 7, 2009 at 9:59 AM  
Blogger cindy.lou.who said...

I think I posted about this last night, but I can't remember for sure. I was on the cbs.com site, and the part that cycles through and says "secret scenes" showed a picture of Jeff sitting on a sofa in the JH with his head turned and Russell walking in the room. I SWEAR I did not dream this!! I wonder if I saw a boo boo on their part for a split second????

Any thoughts on that? I am only watching the show Tuesday for 1. the hopeful saving of Michele by Kev and 2 .to see if they do show Jeff in the JH.

September 7, 2009 at 10:02 AM  
Blogger Marci said...

Come on BB. wake 'em up so we can see how pissed Nat gets!

GaYToR ~ I'm so glad you enjoyed SD!

AND I can't wait to see Zsa Zsa! lol I'm more excited to that than I am to see how pissed Nat is going to be, and that is really excited. She seems to enjoy causing pain a little (ok a lot) too much.

You seem to enjoy making people happy! ♥♥♥

September 7, 2009 at 10:04 AM  
Blogger jane said...

I guess it's defend Jane day. It's ok, I got to gloat yesterday. And that's what I get for giving Natalie an inch, even here she managed to take a mile :-)

Thanks goodness for lacey. She cut right to the heart of what I was trying to say.

Lacey said:

"I agree with you about Natalie. She is playing the game like poker but has forgotten (or doesn't care) that she playing with people who have feelings.

I think she has been indulged all her life, and therefore the arrogance. She really thinks she has been loyal and true, and has played this game with integrity."

Thanks lacey, and MnM too.

I was trying to round Natalie out a bit, give her some context. For myself, I was just trying to understand her and where she was coming from. She's not a axe murderer. But she might need a serious time out to think about what she has done.

September 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...


My thoughts on these 2 topics -

Yes, I think AGP put the engagement scenario in there as a way to humanize Natalie and create sympathy for her character, since she will likely be in the F2... and I think it backfired.

Her reaction to the proposal wasn't well received by the tv only crown - My neighbor commented to me this morning, "That is one strange girl."

With regard to Natalie telling Kevin she'd drop after Jordan and telling Jordan to hang on for dear life, she's just covering all her bases...

With Regard to Kevin possibly keeping Michele instead...

Gamewise, i think it's his best move, since he'll gain a competitor in the F3 that wants Nat out at all costs.

I think the DRs they chose to show the tv audience were chosen specifically to maintain Michele as a viable candidate in the scenario...

As far as what he'll actually do???

Only time will tell.

September 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

that was 3 topics...

September 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

the thing that resonated with me the most about last night's show was natalie's reaction to her proposal from jason. poor dude was emotional and elated practically begging his newly betrothed for some validation. he got nothin -

there is the fact that natalie is in the midst of a life-changing experience and, while spending the rest of your life with someone is indeed super - duper significant, i think i may be able to give her a pass based on a - now-may-not-be-the-time-for-this- basis.

the exchange did, however, validate the sentiments of jane, julius, grendon and some others in that natalie's focus has not seemed to venture much further than natalie and natalie alone for her entire life. yet, with all that attention and love she has no doubt received, she still constantly seeks approval (the tough act doesn't fool me) she is someone who is repeating herself - over and over and over again about her integrity. if that isn't a scream for "someone please let me know i'm right - i am right!, aren't I?" then i don't know what is.

LOVED1 - if you are still around - i am having difficulty understanding what it is that you have come to realize about jordan - pleas to explain?

happy day to all...b

September 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Genie - who the hell called you a minion?

Girl, Carolyn's the bomb, but you are second to no one! Double snap.

September 7, 2009 at 10:08 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Julius - please see #8 ;)

September 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM  
Blogger Pally said...

Well Thank you all for not bopping me over the head for wishing you a nice Memorial day LOL
I went to a Memorial last night for an old friend, apparently I've created a double holiday =)
Happy labor Day! hehe

September 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

My other question about last nights show is where was the "jury" part of the game changing PB - all the commercials stated it was something about the JH and we got a very cold repsonse to a proposal instead - oh i'm soooo confused.

September 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Caro, agreed, agreed, and agreed.

It's nicer when people agree with you, isn't it. LOL

September 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

AND did anyone else notice that Natalie was just as shallow with her noms as Jessie was? Couldn't even look the person in the eye??? Stupid sunglasses with that get-up??? *shaking her head in confusion and frustration*

September 7, 2009 at 10:14 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Well said Brook!

September 7, 2009 at 10:14 AM  
Blogger (MnM)- Michelle said...

I bet Jordon will be affected by Natalie's lies.When she gets out & sees how she fell for everything,the age,all of it.She really took her in,& thought she was helping a young girl.

Jordon will feel stupid & question her judgement.May have some trust issues.Nothing Major I know.But she is hard on herself & and is sensitive about her intelligence.She will be the most hurt by Natalie imo.

but I mean,this season they have the most naive girl in with the biggest liar ever,so...

September 7, 2009 at 10:15 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


Thanks. Even when we disagree I find that I agree with a lot of what you say.

and to WendyLady33

Even before this debate this morning about Nat (to bully or not to bully) I had been waiting to see you pop up.

I was thinking about the quote by Ted Schwarz that you posted on Saturday. I went back to find it and copy it down.

It is beautiful and I feel it would be wise to pass it out in schools and discuss the meaning of the words.

People don't realize that the damage words cause can make a person do something that would normally seem unthinkable. All to often, it means they go home and cause damage to themselves. But sometimes it means they go home and pick up a gun and try to hurt others the way they have been hurt.

Never justifiable and in no way am I trying to defend such a radical action. But if people would realize that treating someone with kindness, or just plain and simply leaving them alone could prevent these terrible tragedies, there would be much less suffering in this world.

September 7, 2009 at 10:15 AM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Off topic....

My grandmother has been admitted to the hospital today due to swelling from congestive heart failure and her brother is in the same hospital due to breaking his hip last night. Could I ask that you keep them in your thoughts and prayers.

Thank you

September 7, 2009 at 10:17 AM  
Blogger (MnM)- Michelle said...


*shows someone my well manicured middle finger*

September 7, 2009 at 10:17 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

gaytor - if you're still - i forgot to tell you i was thinking of you this weekend. i had a friend at southern decadence and knowing you both survived (hopefully a teeny bit scathed...) is great.

September 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM  
Blogger Lisa M. said...

'morning Carolyn! I can't wait to see what Natalie does when she finds out there is no veto ceremony today! Planning her big speech and not even getting to make it. Why does she always think she is in control of everything? And I hate how she always says "we" "we won" no, Natlaie, Kevin won. He is in control right now and I would rather see him win than her anyday!

September 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM  
Blogger (MnM)- Michelle said...

Do we think it is possible,Natalie feels bad for the lying? & it is all a game to her?

Could it be?

I really thought she was lying about being propsed to.& I was dead wrong.

SO maybe we don't know the real her at all.

Maybe she just is that good!?

Did I just say that outloud?

September 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM  
Blogger Lara said...

I thought the jury was supposed to be "packing a punch" in this edition of PB? The commercials shown earlier in the week make it pretty obvious that the visit from a loved one/engagement scene was a change of plans thrown together at the last minute.

September 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Loving all the comments today from everyone.

Gaytor! I can't wait to see the video!!

I have not turned on the feeds yet, I may in a bit.

It's a crazy football day today so once that starts, I'm outta here!! The afternoon game, meh, I'll cheer for the underdogs, Hamilton cause they have been doing pretty good.

The evening game will be carazy! Edmonton vs Calgary. I of course will be cheering on Edmonton. It should be a wicked game that goes right to the 0.00

September 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM  
Blogger (MnM)- Michelle said...


((prayers & vibes to Grandma)))

September 7, 2009 at 10:25 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

michelle in indiana -

done. positive, healthy vibes for grandma.

September 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

Grendon - Thank you! My ex husband was a very hurtful nasty man who thrived on mental and emotional abuse and brainwashing me into believing horrible things about myself. After 9 yrs i left him and managed to pick up pieces when i came across that write up in a book i was reading at the time. It actually broke me when i read it and i had a hard time drying my eyes. For 4 yrs it was framed in my livingroom as a constant reminder that words are deadly and to always be careful of what i say.

Just thought it was something i needed to share with ppl here specially after all the nastiness thats happened this season.

September 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

Michelle - ((((((HUGS))))))

September 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Jane - Thanks woman! With you that would make us a three-headed bomb... haha ;)

As for Natalie - As much as this hurts me to say... thus far, she has played the best strategic game.

She has had her eye on the prize from day one, did not falter, and went full steam ahead. She used people and tossed them out of the way when they no longer served their purpose.

She was loyal to Jessie and Chima only, but she was loyal to them.

Do I like the chick? Hell no. She is too cold-blooded and downright mean for my tastes, whatever the reason.

Does she deserve to win within the context of the game? Yup. She surely does.

The three other strong competitors in this game, shot themselves in the foot too many times and have only themselves to blame.

Russell gave into his extreme paranoia and outed his "alliance" with Michele repeatedly. His decision to play the "villain" was a stupid one in my book. Playing other people's games is never a smart move.

Jeff also gave into paranoia and gave Jordan's paranoia too much of a voice. Evicting Lydia was the stupid move followed by yet another one - evicting Russell.

Michele overplayed her hand. She should have not thrown Russell under the bus as much as she had to Jordan and Jeff. She should have denied the LML and thrown doubt Kevin and Natalie's way. She only achieved in making herself look shady to people who were already predisposed to doubt her.


September 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM  
Blogger (MnM)- Michelle said...

Lara said...
I thought the jury was supposed to be "packing a punch" in this edition of PB?

I know!..I don't like that at all :(

liars! liars!

September 7, 2009 at 10:31 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

MnM michele -

i really doubt natalie feels bad about lying. i think she has perpetual gameface...

i truly believe she finds as many loopholes as possible to "limit" her lies and to her, that is justification enough. just my opinion.

September 7, 2009 at 10:31 AM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

Brooke said.....

LOVED1 - if you are still around - i am having difficulty understanding what it is that you have come to realize about jordan - please to explain?

I WANT TO KNOW ALSO!!!!!!!!! (sorry about the caps Carolyn!)

Jane...I have to bow down at your feet, you were so right about Natalie's proposal and I was one of the 'delusioned' that made a bet with you!!!!! I never in a million years believed that she was proposed to. In the first place, how could anyone in their right mind want to spend a lifetime with her. I wouldn't be able to believe anything that came out of her mouth. Also, he will spend a lifetime of being bossed around like she is doing to Kevin! You are always spot on..very smart lady!

Carolyn, Genie Sea, GaYToR and everyone else this has been the best year for me! I have so enjoyed reading all of your comments! Carolyn, I especially like when you interject your opinion in on the reports! Please do more of it!

I can't wait for Natalie to wake up and realize she isn't going to get to torment Michele with another speech on national TV!!

I don't know what in the world I will do when this season is over. I guess we can pray for a winter season!

September 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Michelle - Huggies! Sending good thoughts your way.

September 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM  
Blogger Lisa M. said...

I was watching BBAD and noticed Jordan commented to Michele that she was sure BB didn't allow anyone under 21 on the show. I wish they would just confront Nat on her age. They have had this come up several times and nobody asks her. THey discussed signing releases ( a while back) and some people asked if her dad had to sign for her, they have seen her drink alcohol and even get Mike's for HOH. (obviously, CBS would be stupid to supply alcohol to an underage HG) why can't they just figure it out? Michelle is smart and even she said "I guess in her state you don't have to be 21" (paraphrasing) hello? Home state would not matter! I just wish someone would figure it out. I know that it will hurt Natalie if everyone finds out. Of course as they go to jury, one by one, I am sure the frist thing they will hear is Lydia's voice telling them "Natalie is 24!~"

September 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

genie i think in seasons past we've had the good fortune to see some players play the best game with cunning AND kindness and perhaps that's why admitting natalie's game play has been the best is such a bitter pill to swallow. your points about everyone else's mistakes are right on. i can't help but try to hold out hope, though, that someone still has something - (read michele, please) *anything?* up their sleeve.

September 7, 2009 at 10:35 AM  
Blogger Lisa M. said...

By the way, I have IE and everything is left-justified on mine.

September 7, 2009 at 10:35 AM  
Blogger HanHaysMom said...

Fancy....I'm w/you! The whole "engagement" thing seemed very staged. I've seen better acting a middle school stage! Natalie either thinks that the American public is stupid to fall for all of her lies or she's just completly deluisonal. She has played a really mean & ugly game & seems to bring out the mean & ugly of the people who hang out w/her. If Jordan can't win it all I hope Kevin does. IF Kevin is smart he'll keep Michele so she can fight w/him to get Nat out of the house, otherwise I think he's screwed!

September 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM  
Blogger Marci said...

Michelle in Indiana ~ You and your family are in my prayers!

September 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM  
Blogger Lisa M. said...

nolegs41 said...
Did anyone think that Natale's atitude towards her boy friend was a bit odd? She didn't seem to excited about the proposal, and she looked really uncomfortable when she was kissing him. jmo

I completely agree with you! I was thinking the exact same thing. If my BF came in the house and I had not seen him in all that time, I would be crying (heck, I was crying a little watching!)I would have been so overjoyed and running down to tell the others what happened. Not making up some stupid story about F2 reversal! I also would be floating around the house and talking about nothing else. But that's just me. I guess Natalie is not a romantic

September 7, 2009 at 10:40 AM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Thanks Genie

Does anybody remember what day Genie did the screencap caption game?

September 7, 2009 at 10:40 AM  
Blogger khopekitner said...

sorry MnM- i never thought for a minute that nat was lying bout the proposal. the best liars always mix in the truth with their lies. fo me it would have been too embarrassing a lie for her. if she wasn't even sure if they were back together. she would ahve looked foolish coming up with that. and i knew for her to take the PB temptation it had to be something like a personal visit. for her to come up with him proposing out of the blue that quickly when kevin called her out...no. i didn't watch last nights episode b/c i knew she was telling the truth and i didn't want to see the natalie show, with that and the nomination ceremony. that is why nat is believable to the other hg's. she talks so much and gives so much detail that even when you don't want to believe her you aren't sure you should. sh does know how to get in peoples heads. as far as giving her credit that maybe she is not that bad. i am sorry but no. IMO-people like this-and i have known many-have a weird sense of ethics and morals. they don't have much compassion which allows them to do what they do. cuz hey do not feel badly while doing it like others would. and they twist the screen through which they see reality. this allows them to believe their own rationale and not feel bad ANd to get others to believe them. b/c if you believe it (your lie) yourself you can get others to as well. if natalie is showing any concern now it is b/c he boy did tell her she wasn't liked and she tells the rest of the hg's its b/c of jessie, but she knows darn well its b/c she is a hypocrite. no one cares if you lie in BB, they all do. its how you lie. and she is a hypocritical liar, the worst kind. she belittles others and degrades them and their families for exactly what she does. i am sorry but i had to get that off my chest. natalie is what she is. a sneaky self righteous liar.

September 7, 2009 at 10:43 AM  
Blogger Julius said...

Carolyn, sorry about violating rule #8. I will seek clarification elsewhere.

Clearing up my use of the word minion: a minion is likely to be of noble birth or to be raised to the nobility, and is more of a companion and confidant to him than a servant or bodyguard.

I meant to emphasize the "noble birth" and "confidant/companion" meanings rather than the "henchman" usage. No one here is a henchman, or hencewoman, for anyone...except perhaps Natalie for Jessie...

My apologies for any misunderstanding.....

September 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Good Morning Carolyn and in-&-out Genie!!!! Good Morning GaYToR and the rest of you dishers! I started to name everyone but I knew I would forget someone, so all is all of you!!!!

As for Nat-a-lie's reaction to her bf proposing, in her pre show interview, they had been broken up for over 8 months and then just the 3 weeks prior to her going on BB they were working on reconciling. I think if I was in that same type of situation, I would be kindof thrown off and possibly even standoffish. When Jason said he asked her dad for her claw (oopss, her hand) in marriage the night of the premier, her reaction said it all, 'Really?' and she screwed up her face a little. I tend to believe her pre-show interview because she had no reason to lie, now she has 500K reasons to lie.

I also hope Kev-in-a-lie will also throw the much needed curve ball and vote to evict Jordan (I just think Michelle would have a better chance at getting to f2).

Wow, that would be great! He would really make a game play that is of his own making, and not part of the queen's plan!

September 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Michelle in IN - Many prayers coming your way...

Julius - No biggie.. they're available on credit, and the family situation is due to a father leaving them high and dry...

September 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Everyone! :)

New TOp Post!!

September 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM  
Blogger LisaH said...

Since Natalie won HOH I haven't been able to force myself to watch the feeds. Thank-you Caro and Genie, for all the updates.
I lmao at Natalie telling Kevin she threw the graduation comp. So was that fake vomit spewing from her mouth or what?
This season is coming to a dismal end. I know lying is a big part of the game, but Natalie has taken it so much further. All the physical threats to Michele are ridiculous, poisoning her with red food coloring? Tampering with her contact lens? Ugh, only hope Kevin isn't as stupid as he has appeared and maybe keeps Michele in so they can get rid of Natalie. But I highly doubt it... LOL I would love it if Jordan is the one to stay and she wins the whole thing. Just hate the fact Natalie or Kevin will get any money..

September 7, 2009 at 10:54 AM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

July 12th Cam 4 3:10am or so

Looking for fun flashbacks and came across this.

It's not fun so much as funny.

Long shot of the kitchen, stairs and HOH landing. Jessie is up there near the stairs eaves dropping on a conversation between Jeff and Chima in the bathroom.

Jeff comes out of the bathroom and Jessie lays down on the landing so he won't catch him. Jessie sneaks into HOH then props the door open and turns on the spy screen with the lights off. The feed switches to the spy screen on a black background.

September 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM  
Blogger jane said...

Genie - you hit three nails on the head with one blow.

I think there were 4 1/2 people who "deserved" to win the game. After Tuesday only 1 1/2 of them will be left.

Russell, Jeff, and Michele played flawed but "good" games. It's hard for me to say whether Natalie played "as well," except she's still there. So I guess the answer is yes. I gave Kevin the 1/2 because I think he did one thing very right. He knew when to keep his mouth shut and ride the wave he was on. That may be equally legitimate, so if he wins, I'll be ok with that and bump him up to a full good game.

I would still very much like to see Michele win. I think overall, she was the "best" this season - Despite her fear of standing up for herself, which hurt her a lot. She made up for it by kicking ass. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. She knew how to play up to her strengths. I think she was the only one in the house who did.

But if Natalie wins, well the chick has b*lls (figuratively, I'm not insinuating anything). I don't particularly like the way she played, but she played her own game, and man, when she committed to something, watch out. She barreled her way though. She was a pitbull and pitbulls win fights, though they sometimes get killed in the process.

September 7, 2009 at 10:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My only comment is that Kevin needs to keep his mouth shut. He is forever calling out Natalie and then she thinks about her lies, and then worms her way out of it. He needs to let her sink.Oh and great job everyone. I have enjoyed reading all the posts.

September 7, 2009 at 3:07 PM  

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