The Overnight Report
Good morning BB Lovers! Happy Thursday & Happy Double Eviction Live Show Day! Try not to get too queasy with concern for the fate of your favorite HGs.
But first, if you're up right now, spark up your feeds!!!! At 2:38am on the Quad, Rachel just went up to the HoH to confront Jeff about throwing the Cornhole PoV Comp which ultimately ousted Brendon.
He denies it. When he asks where she came upon this information, she tells him Shelly... This causes him to question Shelly's loyalty.. As of 2:56am, this is ongoing on feeds 3 & 4... and on feeds 1 & 2, Dani's having another crack at Adam.
Where did this really stem from? Go to feed 3 or 4 at 1:30am, and you tell me, did Dani & Rachel just make a deal? Better, start at 1:02am, where their conversation began...
Keep hope alive, Team Dani. It ain't over til it's over.If you haven't gotten the 3 day free trial for the live feeds yet, you may want to rethink that decision. Give it a shot! You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's FREE!
At 3:08am, Dani's moved on the Shelly, and Jeff & Jordan are doing their best to reign Rachel in..
At 3:25am on Feed 1 & 2, Shelly just told Dani, "I should go up there..." Listening to the conversation on 3 & 4, I can tell you right now, if she does, we're looking at a serious explosion.
At 3:30am on Feeds 1 & 2, Shelly heads outside for a smoke. Jeff does as well. oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...
Jeff is seething. Shelly is spouting bs, per usual. 3:35am f 3/4 Jeff goes back up to HoH and tells Rachel and Jordan he found Shelly & Daniele whispering in a room together.. Meanwhile on feeds 1 and 2, Porsche just tackled Dani on her bed in a victory hug.
3:39am Pick a feed, any feed!
Feeds 1 & 2 - Shelly & Rachel in the bathroom
Shelly: I don't know what you guys are up there talking about, but I need to know where you are.
Feeds 3 & 4 - Adam to HoH...
3:41am
F1/2 - Shelly goes back to Dani in the Have Not Room..
F3/4 - HoH Room.. Adam, Jordan & Jeff...
Adam: I'm starting to get nervous about Shelly as well...
3:45am F4 Adam is starting to spill about Shelly....
4:13am
Feeds 1 & 2
Storage Room
Rachel, Shelly & Dani
"Are we all solid?"
Please check back here at 7:30am BBT for the 1st sections of the Overnight Report.. Better yet, just dive into the flashbacks I've already mentioned above or spark up your feeds right now to watch it all play out before your eyes.
OK.. I'm going back to where it all began tonight, and I'll be putting up the Overnight Report a few sections at a time. Everything above was just a preview...
First things first, in a last ditch effort to save Dani from eviction, it was decided to go after Rachel's vote, since Adam wasn't budging. To assist in making that happen, Shelly throws Jeff under the bus to Rachel for throwing the Cornhole PoV to Adam, which sent Brendon packing.
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Dani: It's like, what am I doing wrong in this game? I feel like.. uuchh... (tears)... Literally I'm a mess this whole week.
Rachel: (whisper) If I did this, you couldn't tell anyone. Because I would blame Shelly.. Or I would blame Adam.
Dani: Hmm.. I just don't think I can get one without the other of them. Which I'd have no problem doing that. I even told Porsche.. How can I get Adam and tell him he can blame it on Rachel? And she said, that's not gonna work.
Rachel: hehehe
Dani: hehehe.. I just don't think one's gonna do it without the other. Adam and Shelly have been in an alliance since like week 1.
Rachel: I know.. And Porsche and Adam.. for like 3 weeks/
Dani: But that so called alliance? Adam does whatever the hell he wants.
Rachel: Do you think you could ask Shelly for a pity vote?
Dani: I don't know.
Rachel: Do you think she'd give you one?
Dani: I don't know.
Rachel: But she also is in love with Jeff and Jordan.
Dani: But she also knows she can't beat them.
Rachel: I know. She talked to me about it.
Dani: What if we... How could we.. Tell if we told Shelly.. and then we guarantee, and then we could blame it on Adam..
Rachel: Yeah, but then Jeff and Jordan would know that Shelly turned on them too. Shelly would have to do it without talking to Adam about it. Or Adam would have to do it without talking to Shelly about it.
Dani: They're not gonna do it without the other one. I feel that Shelly would do it... But Adam.. I can't tell you the kinds of deals I've offered him..
Rachel: Cuz he thinks Jeff has the numbers.
Dani: I know. Cuz he wont take his mouth off of Jeff's dick. And they've been friends for what? 3 days? It's stupid.
Rachel: Think about it. Don't tell anyone.
Dani: I swear to God. Obviously.
Rachel: You have until like 5 pm tomorrow.
Dani: Can I tell Porsche? She wont tell anyone?
Rachel: She tells everything.
Dani: Not in the last couple weeks.
Rachel: Who hid my duck?
Dani: Porsche.
Dani: She was saying.. like trying to clear the air, whatever...
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12:52am BBT
Feed 2
Shelly & Rachel
Backyard Couch
While Dani's in the kitchen with Porsche, coaching her on who to get rid of, Shelly's found a new target and an interesting opening move...
Shelly: Jeff threw the cornhole game.
Rachel: He did?
Shelly: I think so. Maybe. I mean, who's played the most cornhole in here? That's what everybody told me, is that he threw it. Whether he did or didn't.
Rachel: Who? (brb screen)
Shelly: ..She could be sayin' it just because she's frustrated with Adam, or, I don't know. I certainly didn't throw it.
Rachel: No.
Shelly: I mean, I threw my big bag over the fence.. Just another embarrassment.
Rachel: I know. I would expect you and Adam to try, if you were on the block. Obviously..
Shelly: Again though, nerves got the best of me. But even if he threw it or didn't, it wouldn't have made a difference. Adam won it.
Rachel: Yeah.
Shelly: (Shelly rubs her leg, then goes in for the kill) Man that thing still hurts, and it's been 3 weeks. I can't imagine how Brendon's felt...
Rachel: mm
Rachel gets up from the couch to take her turn at practice. Shelly watches her go. We hear the sliding glass door open and close.... Jordan, Kalia and Porsche come over to join Shelly at the couch. Practice continues... Everyone's showing great improvement. Rachel hits 2 in a row.
Following Rachel's turn, she goes inside, sees Dani and grabs her for a talk.
Rachel: Can I ask you a question?
Dani: Why?
Rachel: Can we talk in private?
Dani: Yeah
They walk together to the Have Not Room...
1:02am BBT
Feeds 3 & 4
Have Not Room
Rachel & Dani
Here begins an over 40 minute conversation that many believe ends in a deal between Dani and Rachel... I'll be covering bits and pieces. I strongly encourage you to watch the entire exchange in the flashback section of the live feeds, starting at 1:02am on feed 3, so you can make up your mind with all the facts in evidence. Transcribing the entire thing isn't possible, as there's too too much to cover following this exchange.
Dani: S'up?
Rachel: No, I just don't understand, like, what's goin' on.
Dani: With what?
Rachel: With you and I?
Dani: I don't know, Rachel. Like, genuinely, you're soooo mean to me all the time. Like, I'm being honest.
Rachel: What did I do that was mean to you?
Dani: Every time you get drunk.. Every time anything.. You just always take digs at me and everything else, and I just like.. I don't deal with it.. So there's no point to.. Literally, like this whole week, I'm like, if I just tune you out and put you aside, I just don't have to deal with it. That's what it was. And it sucks, genuinely, because.. I don't know, even the first comment.. Brendon walks out the door and you're like, "See, America does love him." Like, I never said America didn't love him.
Dani: And Brendon, like, in his goodbye message this time, I literally said, "I'm really sorry (***honey, your nose is growing) this happened.." Everything, I go, "But I promise you.. I swore to you that I'm gonna watch out for Rachel, and I promise you, I have her back." Like, literally, that's what I said. And the minute that he left, and then you make the comment, and then it's like obvious that you hate me again..
Dani: It's like, what am I doing wrong in this game? I feel like.. uuchh... (tears)... Literally I'm a mess this whole week.
Dani: I feel like being nice to people gets you nowhere. All I did was try to be nice to Jeff and Jordan, and they swore to me that they wouldn't put me up.. that they wouldn't backdoor me.. and it gets me here... and it sucks.. and I should've put them up. I should've backdoored him like you guys said. I should've. But I thought since I went out of my way to be nice to them on a personal level, that wasn't even game, that they'd at least return the favor for one week... but that's just stupid I guess. I'm sorry. I'm like, literally..
Rachel: I know how you feel, Daniele. I've lost Brendon twice this summer.
Dani: I know, but it's not about anybody else, Rachel. Nobody understands how much I wanna be here. Like, it's embarrasing.. Like, I've said it so many times in there, I'm like...
Dani: Nobody wants to be here as much as I do. Nobody. And the only person I have to blame is myself, because I could've backdoored Jeff, and I didn't. I don't know..
Rachel: I mean, I understand what you're saying, but Brendon wanted to be here more than anybody... and I understand because I wanted to be here more than anybody, and I almost got voted out when Kalia was HoH. So.. Daniele.. Like, I have put my life on hold completely for this game. 2 summers in a row. I understand completely how you feel.. and I think it sucks too. Like, we've both made bad game moves. We've both made bad personal moves. We've both made horrible decisions in this game, but I just.. I don't understand... Like.. You guys hid my stuffed animal.. You hid..
Dani: I did not. On my life, it was not me. I did not take the duck, and I did not take the dog. And I know nothing.. I'm the biggest liar in here, even though, literally, I don't really lie to anybody, I tell the truth and people don't believe me because of something I did week 3. I did not take the dog and I did not take the duck. I think it's stupid when people start taking things to a personal level.
Rachel: That's how I feel. Then I don't understand why your friends are doing it, because I've never done anything to them.
Dani: But you don't necessarily know who it is. And it might not be the people you think it is.
Rachel: Kalia or Porsche?
Dani: I'm not selling people out. I'm just saying it might not be the people you think it is.
Rachel: Who else would take my stuff? That doesn't even make sense. I don't know who's doing what.. I just know what I'm seeing first hand. And this week, we both have been really ridiculous to each other, and there's no reason for it. Like, I assumed you would have pulled me aside and tried to talk to me, but you never did.
Dani: Rachel, the minute Brendon walked out the door, you were like, you made a stab at me...
Rachel: Because I'm stupid, I'm immature.. Of course I'm gonna make a stab at you.
Dani: And it's my fault he left.. But we had just had that conversation.
Rachel: And it wasn't a stab at you.. I said, "Apparently America does love him."
As much as I'm hanging on every word of this conversation, I really have to move forward... and you're gonna have to watch flashback. To continue from this point forward, go to 1:07am on Feed 4.
Cutting ahead to 1:20am on Feed 3 or 4...
Rachel: First of all, you know I'm very emotional. You know, because you were my friend. It sucks, because now we're in a situation where I could be going to jury next week.
Dani: Everything we talked about last week was genuine.. and I promised you guys, and I promised him in his goodbye message. I don't know. We just clearly went very wrong in a lot of ways... and we could have owned this house.
Rachel: Yeah. We could have. And now... Exactly what you said is gonna happen.
Dani: Shocker... These people worship Jeff. Nobody has a chance with him here. You know that right? Like, really. America's Sweethearts... Lying to you one day at a time.
Rachel: Did he throw that Cornhole Competition?
Dani: Yup.
Rachel: Did he tell you he was gonna throw it?
Dani: mm.. Not like.. Not in those words, but yes.
Rachel: What did he say?
Dani: Are you gonna repeat this?
Rachel: What would it benefit me?
Dani: I don't know. What would a lot of stuff benefit us? He looked at me and he said, "You swear you're not coming after me, right?" And I was like, you're not my target. And then he said something about taking Kalia's vacation. And then I got out. And then Jeff got out. So, I don't know. You can take that how it is. But with the leading up to it, to me, it pretty much seemed like he did.
Rachel: Did you make a deal with him to not go on the block?
Dani: I told you.. I made the deal..
Rachel: I mean with him.. To not have him backdoored.
Dani: It was a you keep me safe, I'll keep you safe deal.. So I was like, I'll do whatever I can on a personal level to prove to you that I wasn't attacking you personally.. I wasn't thinking that way. I was thinking game. SO I went through with them, because they swore that if either of them got it, they wouldn't put me up. That's what they did. Swore up and down that they wouldn't backdoor me. Maybe I should've out them straight up, but I thought it'd piss off everyone in the house. They both swore.. and Jeff came up to me, after he made me a have not, and I was sitting on the couch in the backyard.. and he said, "I'm really sorry," and I was like, "no worries, it's only fair. I'm one of the only people who haven't been on it. It's not a big deal. I get it." And he's like, "You might be a have not, but you're a have, because you're not going home this week, and you're completely safe. No back door. No thing." So for the guy who's walking around here trumpeting integrity and honesty, he's a big fat liar, along with his girlfriend.
Pause...
Dani: I don't know. It just hurts me on a personal level, because I did something for them on a personal level, where I don't feel like it's game. I feel like they're holding something agains tme from week 3. And I apologize to you, because I should've backdoored Jeff last week.
Rachel: I didn't say backdoor Jeff. Just to clarify that, because I don't think you should've backdoored Jeff or Brendon, frankly.. I think there are other things you could've done to achieve certain goals.
Dani: Obviously not, because Jeff was gonna hold this grudge, no matter what I did or said. Obviously. After doing them a huge favor, twice.
Rachel: Who said they wanted to get out Brendon?
Dani: Pretty much, everyone.
Rachel: Did that come up in a lot of conversations?
Dani: After the Veto.
Kalia comes in to put on some chapstick. Conversation comes to a dead halt. She leaves in under a minute.
Rachel: I understand how much you want to be here. I know how bad it sucks, because you've done nothing but fight from the second the Golden Keys ended. And it's the same thing for Brendon. We couldn't even play in that Veto. We couldn't even try to save ourselves.
Dani: I know...
Rachel: And I'm sure that if you go to jury, he's gonna tell you that (whispers) we would've kept our promise 100%.
Dani: I know.. and that's why I'm telling you.. Trust me. I've made a lot of stupid game moves.
Rachel: As have I. Plenty. I also know moving forward, I can't make those same moves, because I'm gonna be the number one target for everyone... Cuz for some reason, people like to hide my stuff and pick on me, and tell people I'm starting stuff.. and make me the easiest one to get out, because I don't have any friends here.
Dani: I'm glad we all spent our summer signing a paycheck for Jeff.
Dani laughs at the absurdity of it.
Dani: I'm just laughing, because we knew this was gonna happen. It's just stupid. It's funny.
Rachel: I mean, it didn't have to happen.
Dani: Well, obviously. It's just dumb. I don't know.
Rachel: I don't know what else to say to you, so I guess I'll leave you alone. I just wish it didn't have to get so personal between us, cuz it's pretty dumb.. Regardless of what my goodbye message says, cuz it's pretty mean.
Dani: Don't worry. I figured as much.
Rachel: ..that I'll probably be seeing you very soon.
**Here it comes. 1:29am Feed 3 or 4.
Dani: So that means I'm not getting your vote?
Rachel: For what?
Dani: For tomorrow.
Rachel: Well, you didn't even ask me.
Dani: Rachel, how was I supposed to ask you when obviously you're not gonna go against Jeff or Jordan, even though Jeff can't play this week.
Rachel gets up to check the door and make sure no one's outside listening... Then returns and has a huge body language shift...
Rachel: Daniele, first of all, I don't know what I would've done. If you wouldn't have acted this way this week?
Dani: Rachel, I felt it from you too.
Rachel: And that's fine.
Dani: You were, literally, on my life, you were never my target. You can ask Kalia. You can. I told her, if she wanted to come after you, and I told her no. Maybe because we were really close and then it went bad, maybe there will always be that weird personal thing between us. May be it will. It's not like that with you and anybody else. It's not like that with me and anybody else. Because we did have that. And then we didn't. And it went from really good to really bad. And I think that.. maybe it's always been really personal between us because of things that were said and done and taken the wrong way.
Rachel: Well, I know you may not believe this, and I've thought (whispering ) about it a million times back and forth... If I were to just come work with you and Porsche? Me, you and Porsche could still have a chance at this game.
Dani: No kidding. I said, if Kalia stays, literally, I'm telling you, Jeff and Jordan win the game, and you know it and I know it. If you were to keep me... Here's the thing.. In Jeff's little speech, in the Veto, "You talk about makin' big moves. I'm gonna make a big move." And I'm like, thinking, this isn't a big move.. This isn't a big move, it's a stupid move. Ya know?
Rachel: Do you even have the votes?
Dani: I have Porsche, and I think I have Shelly.
Rachel: You don't have Shelly.
Dani:
For sure, for sure?
Rachel:
I think so.
Dani: I think I do. She's telling me she wont vote for me because Adam.. Adam wont do it.
Rachel: I know.
Dani: What if I told Shelly? What if we could all get together and do the 4 girls?
Rachel: That's not gonna work. That's gonna end up f'ing me, because..
Dani: How? You know you're gonna end up going next week. No. Between the fast forward, which is gonna be next week, you're gonna go.
Dani: How? You know you're gonna end up going next week. No. Between the fast forward, which is gonna be next week, you're gonna go.
**Tonight!!!! Not next week.
Rachel: Oh, I know. I know, Daniele.
Dani: Jeff can't play. That's huge.
Rachel: But it's not just Jeff. It's...
Dani: Adam? Who won 1 competition, because it was thrown to him?
Rachel: Oh, I know. I know, Daniele.
Dani: Jeff can't play. That's huge.
Rachel: But it's not just Jeff. It's...
Dani: Adam? Who won 1 competition, because it was thrown to him?
Rachel: (whisper) If I did this, you couldn't tell anyone. Because I would blame Shelly.. Or I would blame Adam.
Dani: Hmm.. I just don't think I can get one without the other of them. Which I'd have no problem doing that. I even told Porsche.. How can I get Adam and tell him he can blame it on Rachel? And she said, that's not gonna work.
Rachel: hehehe
Dani: hehehe.. I just don't think one's gonna do it without the other. Adam and Shelly have been in an alliance since like week 1.
Rachel: I know.. And Porsche and Adam.. for like 3 weeks/
Dani: But that so called alliance? Adam does whatever the hell he wants.
Rachel: Do you think you could ask Shelly for a pity vote?
Dani: I don't know.
Rachel: Do you think she'd give you one?
Dani: I don't know.
Rachel: But she also is in love with Jeff and Jordan.
Dani: But she also knows she can't beat them.
Rachel: I know. She talked to me about it.
Dani: What if we... How could we.. Tell if we told Shelly.. and then we guarantee, and then we could blame it on Adam..
Rachel: Yeah, but then Jeff and Jordan would know that Shelly turned on them too. Shelly would have to do it without talking to Adam about it. Or Adam would have to do it without talking to Shelly about it.
Dani: They're not gonna do it without the other one. I feel that Shelly would do it... But Adam.. I can't tell you the kinds of deals I've offered him..
Rachel: Cuz he thinks Jeff has the numbers.
Dani: I know. Cuz he wont take his mouth off of Jeff's dick. And they've been friends for what? 3 days? It's stupid.
Rachel: Think about it. Don't tell anyone.
Dani: I swear to God. Obviously.
Rachel: You have until like 5 pm tomorrow.
Dani: Can I tell Porsche? She wont tell anyone?
Rachel: She tells everything.
Dani: Not in the last couple weeks.
Rachel: Who hid my duck?
Dani: Porsche.
Rachel: Who hid my dog?
Dani: I'm not telling. ... Shelly.
Rachel: Shelly?
Dani: Yes!
Rachel: Why?
Dani: Cuz she hates you. Cuz you're mean to people sometimes..
Rachel: Did she do it recently?
Dani: A little while ago.
Rachel: Wow.. what a biatch.. so mean. Well, if she's mean enough to hide my puppy, then she's mean enough to vote against Jeff and Jordan.
Dani: She's a logical thinker. She knows she has no shot with them.
Rachel: Does she think she has a shot with you and me in the game? Working together? Why would she keep me and you in the game? She'll be in the same situation.
Dani: I know.. but she'd also think we hate each other.. where Jeff and Jordan never will.
This is ongoing.. you get the gist. It's now 8am BBT, and while this is without question the most pivotal conversation of the game, I've GOT to move on. To watch the rest of this conversation play out, please go to 1:38a on feed 3 or 4. If you need the free trial for the feeds, click here.
1:40am Feed 3
Rachel: Porsche's voting for you 100% right?
Dani: Yeah, she's going to even if there's not the votes.
Rachel: What if me and Porsche vote for you, 100%, and you just tell Shelly, you got it handled? But don't tell her that it's me. Tell her that you got Adam or something.
Dani: But her and Adam are like that. (indicates very close)
Rachel: Really?
Dani: They tell each other everything.
Rachel: Shelly thinks she's lower on the totem pole with everything. If it's me, you, Porsche and Kalia, that's 4 and she's the 5th. At least with me, Jeff and Jordan, that's the 4 of us, because they're ready to get rid of Adam.
Dani: What do you mean?
Rachel: If Shelly thinks we're working together, then it's me, you, Kalia...
Dani: Not Kalia. Porsche.
Rachel: Porsche. Why not Kalia?
Dani: She's not here. She's going home!
Rachel: Oh, right. Duh!
Dani: It's not that difficult.
Rachel: So me, you..
Dani: It's gonna be 3 against 4. No matter what. And Jeff can't play.
Rachel: And Shelly thinks she can beat Jordan easily.. in the game.. in every competition..
They hear a noise.. Someone's moving around in the other room.
Dani: Should we start yelling at each other?
Rachel smiles and nods.
Rachel: (loud) I just don't f*ckin' get it. Seriously, I'm over it. I don't know what I can f*ckin say to you.
Both are softly giggling...
Rachel: (whispers) Just make it up. (loud) Um seriously. I have to go.
**OK.. Deal or No deal?
Following this conversation, Rachel gets called to the DR, and Dani heads outside to the backyard and asks Shelly for a status update on Adam.
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2:09am
Quad
Dani
Have Not Room
Dani's laying alone in the Have Not Room, trying to figure out how to make it work...
Dani: Oh my God.. What am I gonna do?
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2:26am BBT
Feed 1
Rachel, Jeff, Jordan, Shelly
Backyard Couch
Following her DR session, Rachel comes outside to play cover-her-ass with Jeff and explain away her meeting with Daniele, as just trying to get to the bottom of the nastiness before Dani walks out the door.
Rachel: I just said I can't even talk to you, and I walked out.
Jeff: Who started talking in the first place?
Rachel: I did. Cuz I was like, what's with all this personal attack, and why are you trying to get everyone turned against me?
Jeff: She's leaving. You should just leave her alone.
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2:38am BBT
Quad
Rachel & Jeff
As mentioned at the beginning of the Overnight, this is where Rachel comes upstairs to ask Jeff if he threw the cornhole comp. Jeff denies it. He says that they're just trying to get her worked up in a last ditch effort to save Daniele.
Rachel stays up there a while, talking first to Jeff alone, then to Jeff and Jordan together. It's a worthwhile conversation to catch on flashback... Rachel manages to cause quite a bit of doubt in Shelly as well as Adam, in terms of their loyalty to the alliance.
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2:52am BBT
Feed 3
Adam & Dani
Bathroom
Adam: I thought Rachel was flipping out on you.
Dani: Whatever.
Adam: She's a f*ckin' wackadoo.
Dani: She was saying.. like trying to clear the air, whatever...They move on to talk about Adam's vote, which he tells her flat out will not be for her to stay in the game. Adam says he's got to go with his gut. Dani presses, telling him he's spending the summer here to sign a check over to Jeff... To watch this exchange on flashback, the meat of it starts at 2:54am on feed 3 with this...
Adam: I know you don't like it.
Dani: I just don't understand why or how it would benefit you not to. You know it makes sense, and you keep coming up with new excuses, so I know you know it makes sense.
Adam: I've been trusting my gut the whole time.
Dani: And your gut says not to trust me?
Adam: Yeah.
Dani: Wow.. I don't know how to respond to that. You're gonna be shocked when you watch the show.
Adam: (very matter of factly) Then, I'll be shocked.
And so on... They wrap it up with Dani asking him if he'll at least sleep on it, or if he's a 100% no. He says he's a no, and she says she'll see him in jury next week.
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3:10am BBT
Feed 1
Dani & Shelly
Chrome Room
Shelly: She just told the whole story about you guys fighting and bs.
Dani: But not about making a deal.
Shelly: No. If she goes up there and says, it sounds like Daniele has Shelly, the whole thing blows up.
Dani: No, she wont. She wont say that, because she will vote for me. She told me, if you can guarantee me a vote by 5pm tomorrow, I'll vote for you. She's just afraid to go against them..
Shelly: If she does it, I'm in. But if I get dicked in this deal, I'm gonna be..
Dani: I'm literally.. I packed my bag and zipped it. I was planning my questions with Julie already.
Shelly: If I get screwed in this, I'm gonna be irate.
Dani: If it wasn't for you, none of this would have happened. Literally, Shelly, I swear on my life. I'm not gonna screw you. Adam, I might.
Shelly: I don't care.
Dani: I'm beside myself. Is this really happening?
Shelly: I knew, as soon as they called me to the DR, it was about the comment I made to her.
Dani: hehehehe
This is ongoing.. If you'd like to catch it on flashback, to continue from this point, go to 3:11am on feed 1.
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3:19am BBT
Feed 3
Jeff, Jordan and Rachel
Shelly's got track marks on her back... lots and lots of greasy, grimy track marks. Steal Rachel's stuffed puppy dog, will you? We join this conversation well in progress.
Rachel: Well, first of all, when Shelly said she wants a couple to win? I think that's bullsh*t.
Jeff: I think it's 100% bullsh*t.
Rachel: And supposedly she told the girls that she wants girls to make it to the end.
Jeff: Where did that come from?
Rachel: That's what Kalia and Porsche and Daniele said that Shelly had told them... Tht she wants a young girl to win the money. I think Shelly wants to win the money.
Jordan: Yeah, (very sleepy) I think Shelly...
***Imagine that. A houseguest who wants to win the money.
Rachel: I think she knows that if she goes there with you, she has no chance, whereas if she went with Kalia or Porsche?
Jordan: She would win..
Rachel: Kalia and Adam? She has a better chance at beating them..
Jeff: So how bout this? Why don't we do this then? I told Adam I wanna give him a fair shake. Why don't we f*ckin' cut Shelly outta the equation and be like, why don't you go, and us 4 go to final 4? Is that not a fair enough shake? And we'll f'in tell him everything that Shelly said, and be like, dude, what's up with Shelly.. and be like, do you want a fair shake? DO you wanna roll with Porsche? I mean.. That would be something to offer him.
This is ongoing. To watch on flashback from this point forward, please go to 3:21am on feed 3.
CUT TO:
3:32am
Feed 1
Backyard Couch
Jeff & Shelly
Jeff heads downstairs to ask Shelly for a smoke. They head out to the couch. When Shelly asks what Rachel's doing up in HoH, Jeff plays it cool, saying they're just talking..
Perhaps trying to set Adam up for the fall, Shelly tells Jeff she's starting to get concerned about Adam, and that it seems like Adam's freaking out... Also that Porsche and Kalia are getting too good at the comp.
Meanwhile, up in HoH, Jordan and Rachel are still talking, and Jordan has begun to worry about Shelly's vote.
CUT TO:
3:40am
HoH Room
Feed 3
Jeff, Jordan & Adam
Jeff: So what's your scoop? Dude, there'a lot of f*ckin' shit flyin' around.
Adam: One side of me you guys have not seen yet is my temper, and i'm tryin' so hard not to f'in lose it.
Jeff fills Adam in that he thinks Dani has gotten to Shelly. Jeff also tells him that he found Dani & Shelly whispering together... He also tells him he wants her out of their final 4. Adam says he's cool with that.. and not to worry about Shelly's vote, because without his vote, Dani's still going home. To watch this exchange on flashback, please go to 3:40am on feed 3.
As you can see on the quad shot, Shelly and Rachel are simultaneously talking on 1 & 2 in the bathroom.
Shelly: Are you moving?
Rachel: Moving Where?
Shelly: To Daniele. She told me the whole story. I know what's going on. I need to know what you're doing. It's gonna be 3 of us. When I was at the pool with you the other day, I was trying to tell you... Somethin's goin' on.. I need to know what you're doing. We cannot turn on each other here. We cannot.
Rachel: No. We can't.
CUT TO:
4:14am BBT
Operation Coup de Jeff, in the true sense of the phrase, which means to overthrow, seems to be a a go.
Pick a feed, any feed... Actually.. watch it on quad.. going to singular feeds for this one gets screwy.
Dani: We're all on board 100%. We're all solid. And we have Porsche 100%.
Meanwhile, in the backyard, Jordan realizes that they all tell Shelly everything, and that may not have been so clever of them..
After 8 hours... This concludes the overnight report. Is there more? Yes. Can I go any longer without breakfast? NO.
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posted by CarolynBBDish @ 2:28 AM
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OMG im on the feeds right now.. this is insane!!!
completely. flipping. nuts!
zomg!
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been here all night long... have no idea who is with who. only people i know who aren't lying to each other are J&J. I have to say, production is very suspicious on this one.
All in all, I love this drama and so worth the money for the feeds!!!
OMG!!! Thank you sooooo much for starting TOR right now Carolyn!! Thank you!!!
I've been watching the feeds for the past hour or so.... ON FIRE!!! Daniele is pulling out ALL the stops and is so snarky, I'm ill!! She is such a B...rat!!! Oh well... A for effort Dani but... BUH BYE!!!
Adam... Stand up guy!! As nasty as Dani got with him, the more it seemed to hurt hom to disappoint her. But he let her down as easy as she would allow (with all her 'I hate you's'. and 'it's ludicrous' and 'see you next week in jury' comments).
Shelly... After Dani, Porsche and Kalia... SEE YA!!! Matter of fact, she may be quickly taking Kalia's spot!!!
OMG... I need to get ready for work. See you all in about an hour.
Good morning BBDishers to come in later!! Have a great day!!
Rachel just did the best move of her game ever. She set herself up in the best poistion either way! I'm soo pumped she's always been my favorite and I knew she had it in her.
idk, don't count dani out yet.. rach looks like she is flipping... best tennis match ever!!! everyone has to watch the FB at 1:30am for sure with dani and rach.
G'morning Goddess of the Dish.
Just when I got sick of watching them play the game in the BY and thought it was all over...
I wandered off to get some of my free music for the month and even turned off the feeds as I started looking for music on YouTube etc. and WoW.
I saw something on Facebook from BBUpdates and decided to check in.
WoWsers! The feeds are on fire and I get more and more confused every time one of them changes locations.
Funniest thing to me so far is how upset Adam got when Dani told him Dick is not going to like him.
Well duh... you vote out my family member and you think we are going to start spending Thanksgiving together every year?
SCREAM!!!!! The feeds just went crazy, both BB Lite and Superpass.
:o)
G'morning Carolyn! Got a text about 45 mins ago from a friend from the east coast waking me up and telling me to spark up the feeds. I'm still half asleep...but just have to say how thankful I am that you are here making sense of this mayhem 'cause I can't!!
Have the feeling this day may get a chapter in BB history. Thanks again.
OMG!!!!!!!!! I haven't even been to bed yet because of all the stuff going on on the feeds. Now the feeds are messed up and I can't see or hear anything. Does anyone know what Rachal replied to Shelly?
By the way, good morning to everyone!
I'm going crazy here and I know you are having a helluva time getting all of this down Caro.
Kristine I am so with you! I believe Production had a hand in this also. Big Time.
ShiShi - The feeds reset at 7am eastern/4am BBT every morning. Give it 5 minutes, then go to flashback to view what you missed. It'll be there.
I left the feeds on and went to get ready for work, came back 15 minutes later and there's Dom, Keith, Brendon, week one??? Freaked me out!! LOL
(I assume that's what happens when they reset?)
Good Morning Carolyn and Fellow dishers! I just sat down with my first cup of coffee for the day and thought that I would check in. I can't believe what is going on in that house! Lastnight after the show I called my sister in Ohio and we talked about the only chance Dani had was to try and make a deal with Rachel!!! I can say one thing about the girl she is a good fighter....I love the drama..what a way to wake up.. lol go Dani!
4:24am.. things look to be quieting down enough that i can jump into flashback and start transcribing..
gonna give it another few minutes just in case.
holy holy holy!
Goooood Morning, Everyone! :0)
G'morning, Kristine :)
G'morning, Lucky13! :)
G'morning, GayTor!! :) Ya can't take your eyes off em for a minute!
G'morning, Izzy! :) Zoiks!!
G'morning, ShiShi! :) it's gonna be a heckuva overnight!
G'morning, Patti! :) yup - every morning at 4am bbt, like clockwork.
I've been up watching the feeds since just after midnight BBT. This has been a great night. Carolyn, so sorry for your fingers this am
Could someone please tell me who Rachel is for? I can't believe she's so stupid as to think Shelly and Dani have her back. They freaking HATE her!! She doesn't know this by now?
Ok, now I'm nervous ... It all hangs on Jordan winning?!? I'm not counting her out on winning, but oh the pressure!
G'morning, NZinga! :) Oh boy.. I haven't even started yet.. still watching live..
Patti - I'm really not sure... She checked in with Dani & Shelly following her talk with Jeff & Jordan, so who knows?!
Cindy - yup!
@Patti - I am not convinced at all that Rachel is voting for Dani to stay. I think she is setting up Shelly to expose her deception
Rachel is a moron, ive always been on her side but to trust shelly and dani. How stupid can she be for real.
if Dani ends up staying, I might not watch the rest of this season, its absurd.
I have been watching none stop since the lockdown ended yesterday, and I am in shock! I think production has a hand in this, because they wouldn't let Rachel hide Dani's doll but Shelly gets to keep Rachel's? Also why hasn't Rachel asked Shelly for her dog back now that she knows she has it? I am hoping fingers crossed that Rachel is setting her up, getting her hopes up just to stay with J/J when it counts and then showing Shelly for the person that she is.
G'morning, Lupo! :)
G'morning, Kayla Re! :)
I told you Rachel would be the one to flip and not Adam. Seems I just missed all the craziness. Good thing we have FB.
Good Morning Carolyn, Genie, Dishers
This would of course happen on a day when I have to work both jobs and won't even be here for the viewing party tonight :(
Thanks for you all do Carolyn and Genie, be relying on you all day.
Have a great day everyone!!!
Morning, Michigan Man! :)
LOL @ Porsche F3 @ 454 BBT "Ouch, that thing is burning my face - I mean my back".
Please please please let rach just be messing with dani and shelly to set her up.
ok everyone.. I think it's safe now... I'm diving in to the flashback machine to get crackin on this overnight..
I'll be publishing the sections as I go..
and I'll moderate comments every 45 minutes or so.. but I wont be able to comment back til I'll all done with the transcribing.
in the meantime, if you're just getting here, go dive into the flashback machine for yourself. the past couple hours have been completely NUTS!
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MM - don't you & Dani count on Rachel's vote just yet. Not to spoil Caro's job (I won't be offended if this doesn't get published), but Dani spilled to Rachel that Shelly took her puppy. Add to that Dani evicted Brendon twice. Rachel's out for blood. I predict Hell freezing over before Rachel votes for Dani
Good Morning Carolyn and Dishers! Good Luck catching up Carolyn it has been none stop since 7pm, your poor fingers.
Morning Carolyn
Morning Genie
Morning bboholics
I got so riled up I forgot my good mornings to everyone lol
Rachel did a great job of pumping Dani for information on Shelly. Yes, she agreed to a deal with Dani and Shelly but she also agreed to a deal with JeJo.
I think she is setting Shelly up for a hard fall from grace.
It's the best move she has ever done. And I feel like it's the best move of the season thus far.
Unfortunately for Rachel is that both sides are planning to screw her over either way.
You JeJo fans who say the game is rigged didn't have anything to say when "Big Jeff" got to pick who was on slop without any competition to play.
I think Rachel wants to get Shelly back for taking her puppy. She's emotional and won't let that go, which is why I think she'll stick with JeJo.
Too bad they're going to screw her in final 5 (if they make it intact that far) in favour of Porsche. Haha.
It's been the best night of feeds so far this year, though.
Dani has fought harder than anyone I've ever seen who was seemingly almost guaranteed to go home. Very impressed by her drive to stay by any means necessary.
While I am not a conspiracy theorist There are too many HG making statements re: the box steering them in the direction to keep Dani. Then there'S dani's own comment regarding members of production will quit if she is voted out. Does that mean it is a pre-determined outcome by CBS or AGP? I thought game shows had strict rules and regs. Remember that movie Quiz Show based on a true story from a game show that rigged the outcome, well born out of that is very very strict rules as to not even have a whiff of cheating or a pre-determined outcome. I have to say I am very disappointed in what I am seeing and hearing about production and or the box. It has taken the fun out of it for me. Manufactoring and manipulating HG. I have heard kalia and other HG say dani is friends with production and hangs out with them etc. Well I am friends with some people that work for our state lottery ! Maybe I will hit power ball. Having said all that Thank you to the ladies who type and type for all of us to enjoy. You do a wonderful job.
to ScottyCwilliams:
In regards to Jeff getting to put 3 on slop, every season this has happened where at least one time, The HOH gets to pick 3 have nots.
Usually and I may be wrong, but this was probably the last week they will have "Have Nots".
I can not wait for HOH lockdown tomorrow! I am hoping for an all out battle!
Please, oh please, let Rachel vote to keep Dani. That would be uh-mazing & make everyone go nuts during the DE tonight!
Speaking of production influences to keep Dani - I did read an interview with Allison that she would bet on Dani winning. That was a couple of weeks ago.
Good Morning Beautiful Carolyn. Good Morning BB Friends.
You totally missed an important conversation between Adam and Danielle around 3:50 to 3:05 on feed 1 and 2. Danielle was in the bathroom and Adam approaches her. Obviously Dani has another shot at Adam but she fails. Dani asks for the honest truth if he is going to think about keeping her overnight or not. She doesnt want this dragged on any longer. Adam tells her 100% I am not voting to keep you and appologizes. This is an important conversation to view on flashback.
- Love this site though, my absolute go-to site for all big brother dish. Everyday; all day... I recommend this site to all big brother fans.
Best Season for the feeds ever!! Thanks Carolyn and good morning.
Good golly morning Carolyn & all!! Wow!!
Woke up and instantly got anxiety lol
But.....Rachel has rightfully so had Doubts about Shelly for a longggg time, Dani evicted her man twice & she didn't really seem to confirm a deal in the storage room...
So IMO she is just gathering ammo and will have a lot o pleasure voting Dani out! Rachel plays personal when it comes to Brendon & evicting the one who sent him out will make her very happy!
But this is also my hope too so who the heck knows until we see it all live tonight lol:)
And Carolyn.... They need to invent you and Genie a "relax the fingers"!!
I've been reading the Dish for years and haven't commented in several but just have to say, in addition to Thank You! Carolyn and Genie, I love Big Brother! I don't care if production gets involved and I think you could argue endlessly and successfully about how each and every houseguest has had advantages and disadvantages. I don't care! It's entertainment!
NancyT.
I think Rachel & Dani striking up a deal is a great game move! No one would suspect that given the catty attitude between the two of 'em...ah- love it!
I don't know what I would do without the site!
I really hope Rachel doesn't keep Dani! That would be a bad move on her part! Dani would NOT keep Rachel for long. Plus, why would Rachel keep someone who evicted Brendon TWICE?!
Here's to hoping Rachel sticks with J/J, and does what is right!
ZOMG!
Good Morning!
I am NOT against Dani winning, but with Productions interference in this one, the fix seems to be in. I can only assume they are offering HG's incentives to keep Dani (again, I could easily replace her name with Jordan, or Jeff, or Adam, etc). The problem is, the fix seems to be in on this one. I have been watching for years, and if this happens, I will just move on to another show. I don't need BB, especially if they rig the outcome!
Good morning Carolyn and all my fellow BBdishers,
All I can say is WOW!! I go to bed last night thinking it will probably be a slow night since Dani has no chance at flipping Adam and I wake up to this.
As I'm sitting at work, I'm plotting how to fake an illness so I can go home and watch the FB. I must tell you, I would be terrible in the BB house because I can't even convince myself that it's a good idea to go home.
I really, really, really hope Rachel is only trying to set up Shelly and not really considering switching to team Dani.
I am anxious to read the rest of TOR this morning.
Thank you for all you do on this site. Without it, I would have to take a leave from work just so that I wouldn't miss anything.
going on about 3 hrs sleep with all this drama. One thing that just gets to me is Dani's comment to production. I truly hope that Rach isn't buying into this and if she does she will be seeing Brendon sooner then later. Why can't Dani play her own game stop trying to be "her father" what do it her way it fails? So try her dads way? Kudos to her yes and I like Dani I do but this whole week of BBAD was nothing but... Never mind lol.
Thank you Carolyn I know you have alot on your plate right now.
After all is said and done, the only thing Shelly accomplished by trying to save Dani was to sabotage her own game.
Rachel isn't flipping; Adam isn't flipping; Dani isn't staying.
I hope you're happy in the jury house, Shelly!
Mbm Rachel will make a deal with "the devil" for the same reason Dani will make a deal with "the devil". They both want to win and they can use each other to get further and "shuffle the deck". Next week who knows
Good morning Carolyn, Genie, and all you awesome BB fans! I have a feeling we're in for a long day, especially Carolyn and Genie with all the madness that will be going on today. Good luck ladies!!
When I first read about the Rachel and Dani deal, like seriously, totally, I freaked...shocker! :) But the longer I think about it, the more I think Rachel is just playing them. I think she fears a f3 deal with jejo and Shelly, and I think she feels that just talking to jejo would not get them to quit trusting Shelly as much. So I think she wants to make it appear that she's voting to keep Dani, but only to Shelly and Dani. I think she'll still vote to keep Kalia, but by making them think she's voting to keep Dani, Shelly will then cast her vote to keep Dani, thinking they have the numbers. When that happens, Shelly will be outed to jejo, putting Rachel one step closer to the end. Just my thoughts, and maybe I'm just trying to convince myself. Because I don't know if I can get through the day thinking Dani is going to stay. I HAVE to believe she's leaving, or my day is already shot to hell. :(
Keeping my fingers crossed and counting down the minutes to tonight's live show. Have a great day everyone!
Good morning Caro
Just started watching the FBs so I have no idea how this story ends.
I think Dani has become incredibly unlikeable. If she wins, more power to her. Being the queen of BB seems to be the only thing that matters in her life. She should realize though that being remembered isn't the same thing as being remembered fondly. Boogie won-not too many people speak kindly of him.
Shelly has been a disappointment to so many people on so many levels. For goodness sake, her own daughter is disappointed in her. And she has just about zero chance at winning this game regardless of which team she is on. Since she's only leaving with a stipend regardless, she should have at least tried leaving with some integrity.
I don't blame Rachel for whatever decision she makes. She's a solo player. The same with Adam. However, I do hope Jordon wins HOH and sends Dani right out the door after Kalia. Then Porsche, Shelly and Rachel can form a new mean girls club. How long do you think it would be before Rachel and Shelly turned on each other? And if Shelly turned to Jeff or Jordon for comfort this time, I think they would tell her to go cry in the bush.
Regarding the rumblings about production again. I think this is a very clear reason why there should be NO returning HGs. Especially when they have a personal relationship with the people in the walls. It does look incredibly suspicious and even if there is not blatant cheating, the credibility of the show is not looking so good right now.
Dani can dish it out but can't take it! Remember when the Zingot zinged her? She was the only one who could not laugh at herself. Rachel treatment was only giving Dani a dose of her own medicine.
Seriously? Is production really tampering with the HGs just to keep Dani's game alive or to keep the season "exciting"? What about those of us who think the season gets even more exciting after she leaves? Aren't there enough opposing opinions to make them think that a large portion of their fan base wants to see a big move happen (and that being said HGs departure)?
Morning, Caro! Sorry to start with a rant, I will get off my soap box now ....
I know this has been repeated several times, but Dani's "No one wants to be here more than I do" arguement-I'm over it. Listening to her talk gives me the same queasy feeling I used to get listening to Brendon. She trully believes that the BB world revolves around her.
She is the only one worthy or deserving, she is the only one whose feelings matter as apparently anyone else who gets evicted shouldn't have been playing the game anyways.
Dani got a once in a lifetime chance twice. Most of these other cast mates will never get this chance again. There are people who want this just as badly and maybe even more, they just don't keep cramming down other people's throats that they are the only ones who matter and their feelings are the only ones that count.
Dani is a selfish, spoiled child. I almost hope she does win just so I don't have to see her turn up on BB for a 3rd time.
Everyone! This rigged, fixed..mantra is so tired. We could argue & conspiracy theory to death which comp was rigged for whom or CDT being unfair (I voted for Jeff & would take it back now) that America in no way voted for Brendon. But c'mon!
I am pulling for Dani...I have made it clear. But catch Jun (BB4 WINNER for those that dont know) on twitter & she makes it clear...DR asks many questions...poses scenarios...to engage HG In the game & get them thinking!!!
production cannot MAKE them do anything ...it's free will...either ur weak or strong. Jeff proves he made his stand..even if a sway was involved.
I have long said if I could ever get cast I would play 3 gamed in 1...my own...one for the feeders & one against production so they never truly knew what I was thinking.
FREE WILL. You either...if u r not strong enuf to do ur own plan...no matter how much DR/production is in ur ear...u dont deserve to play this game anyway!!!!
Pls insert 25 cents to continue.......
(I'm broke & out)
Can BB really 'fix' who goes home? I know that may be a naive thing to ask, but I had no idea they interfered with the game like that!
Well, if production is rigging this why wouldn't they continue to rig it to favor the JeJo fans rather than Dani. I'm not sure about the fan and viewership demographics of this show but I'm guessing it leans towards females and there are a lot of females in the "real world" who like Jeff. (Me included!!) Also, he hates the Green Bay Packers too so even more reason to like him. : ) Go Vikings!!!
Damn this day is going to be expensive.....stress shopping on ebay! and listening to Adam snore. lol.
After giving it some thought, I really think Rachel isn't on board with Dani and Shelly. She's too focused on the fact that Dani ousted Brendan to flip. I think she wants Daniele to feel safe so she can laugh in her face when she's evicted tonight. I think Dani and Shelly will have the Dustin face, not Kalia.
How is Production interfering?
I don't have the feeds so I have no clue what is going on. HELP! :o)
I agree with Misslissa, my anxiety has been up all morning. I've only had 1 cup of coffee but it feels like I have had 10!! I guess I am realizing that I am a definitely a Jeff/Jordan/Adam/Rachel fan...meaning I want 1 of them to win (whether they go final 4 or only 1 of them make it to final 4, that's who I will root for). I don't think Jordan will win this time, unless she is up against Porche, Jeff could win, as long as he isn't up against Danielle, Adam I have a soft spot for as he represents Jersey, and we are both alums of Stockton State College, and Rachel, as much as her emotional play drives me crazy, I think deep down is a good person, just a bit immature. I think this show has kind of ruined her reputation, and if she wins, may salvage some of that...just a thought.
I truely hope that Dani is evicted tonight, and not because I don't like her or think anything less of her game play...she's a beast. If she is left in the game, it will become the Dani show, and of course she will then win it all, and I just don't want to see that. I prefer to watch the rest of them turn on each other, and watch different people in power each week. It's just my wish and my opinion.
I definitely do not think Rachel can trust Dani and Shelly...again, desperation breeds the biggest lies...Rachel is a smart girl, but very emotional, so I am not sure which way she will go...
The only think I do know is I can't take this anxiety anymore. I've been watching BB since season 2, and I have never had this much anxiety. I've been worked up alittle each season (cause I am addicted) but never thought about it all day everyday like this season lol
As for conspiracy theories...I have never been a believer, and always gave the benefit of the doubt...however, this season has me actually questioning productions motives..it's not that it's because they are pro-dani and I want her out...it just all doesn't make sense.
Finally, Carolyn and Genie, I don't say it often enough, thank you so much for everything you do!!!! I order the live feeds through your site, but I work M-F 8-5, so it helps me to have you guys let me know what is going down overnight and in the am!! I super appreciate it!!
scottycwilliam
The picking of have nots had nothing to do with Jeff being the winner. There have been times in the past when one person chose the have nots because between other comps (like endurance) there was not time for a have not competition.
Also, there's a pretty big difference between letting some-one pick who is going to be a have not for a week and helping someone get to the final 2 in a game for half a million dollars.
I'm not saying that the game is rigged, but to compare Jeff picking have nots to production helping Dani win the game is a little bit rediculous.
i'll be disapointed if dani stays but i'll always watch, close, crazy and unpredictable, thats the good stuff!!
first year i've gotten the feeds. you are right, the feeds are a totally different game and totally worth the money!
thanks bbdish for alwasy being a fun part of my summer. keep up the good work!!
I went to bed last night satisfied that Daniele was going home... I too get so tired of her acting like she's the queen bee (as well as BB-alum worshiping her on twitter, WTF? she must be really nice in real life.)
Then I wake up and see this preview and FREAK OUT! I keep refreshing TOR. I hope to the BB God that Rachel is being smart and blowing smoke up Dani and Shelley's rears. WAKE UP HOUSEGUESTS! I NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH!
(Glad I am not the only one with anxiety this morning.)
I really don't understand Rachel...you go from a F3 deal with Jeff and Jordon, which you feel you will be the #3, to a deal with Dani, Porsche and Shelly where you are obviously #4...makes no sense.
And, think of the way these girls have treated her these past few weeks, you really think they want to help you??? Ugh, I know that they don't know all that we know and can only base their decisions on what they know...but if Rachel really thinks that these girls are going to be her new bff's and protectors, then she doesn't deserve to win the 1/2 million...
There's blindly trusting, of course, but theirs out-cho-mind trusting that gets you no where with only yourself to blame, and that's where Rachel would fall with this one.
OMG!! What is going on??
I gotta hope that Rachelle would never vote for Danielle to stay and side with Shelley for 2 reasons.
1) Danielle sent Brendon out...TWICE
2) Danielle told Rachelle that Shelly took the puppy cause "She hates you".
Not usually a Rachelle fan, but she has been treated like dog doo this week, and being that she usually is pretty smart when analizing people and their motives, She surely (hopefully) will not fall victim to Dani's ploys.
What would Brendon say if he was watching this go down???
Also, Jeff and Jordon are now "on to" Shelley and since Rachelle knows from danielle how Shelley feels, then Rachelle knows Shelley has lost her alliance with J/J and Adam.
Good Morning Everyone!!
Anyone noticed that you can only see the conversation between Shelly, Rachel, and Dani (4:13AM, Feeds 1 and 2) in quad view where it's impossible to hear? If you go straight to those cameras, it skips to 4:16AM. -Or is it just me that can't see that exchange?
I will be sooo happy if Dani stays! She is a die-hard fighter and deserves to stay in the house! Things will be so predictable and boring if she leaves. Also Adam needs a backbone.... i have never in my life seen a grown man act like such a little girl for another grown man......get off his balls Adam!!!!
BAZINGA!
*squeeee*
I. Love. This. Game!
♥
Dani honey? I really hope you can continue your "coming out smelling like a rose" streak.
Furthermore, I can't help but giggle at this point at Shelly's GAME shenanigans and lies. She IS a hunter. *snort*
They ALL lie. They ALL backstab (except ED... he was a frontstabber like me).
And as much as I've always liked Jeff? I do not want to see him win.
Sorry Goldenboy Hunka Hunka Man!
Ooops... in all my excitement I forgot my manners!
~Good morning everyone!~
No matter who you are rooting for? I love ALL my Dishy family! ♥
omg omg omg i love fb omg
shelly is outsted
omg dani going home
rach keeping kalia
got shelly kicked out
f4 adam rach jj
Wowza! What an exciting TOR!!!!
Thank you and Hello, Lovely Carolyn!
Hiya, Genie and fellow Dishers!
Rachel is a genius, she is playing with Dani, the look on Dani's face when Juile says adios to her will be absolutely priceless, and then rachel will add, please say hi to Bukie!
lol
Here's hoping Kalia and Shelly BOTH walk out that door tonite!!!
Can't wait for tonite's show!
hey everyone!
dont have the time to go thru all of the other comments but I just wanted to jump in quick and say that as much as I hate Dani and want her out for Rachel working with her is the smartest move. I was so hoping that Dani would work with B/R last week and will backdoor Jeff as that would've been the smartest game move (as much my dream F4 was the 2 power couples) and I just knew that this week will turn out the way it did if she decided to put Brendon. If for nothing else Dani should go to jury just for not thinking ahead and what was really being offered to her by B/R. Now I feel its a bit too late unless Rachel gets fully onboard and for her if she is in F2 this would be the move that will give her the jury votes.
Good morning Carolyn
This is insane all I can do is laugh!
good morning every one omg i forgot to say good morning to wow owowowow adam jj n rach f4
AHH!!! Cheers to Dani staying in the game and the Golden couple (J/J) getting knocked off their Golden horse!!
I've said it many times this season, Jeff and Jordan feel way too privilaged in this game. They are riding it to the end because they've had too many newbies worshiping their feet. First Shelly, now Adam. COME ON!! KEEP DANI!
Good Morning Oh Goddess of the Dish!!!!!
Seriously???? Do these HG's ever sleep????
Okay, take into account that they are going on hardly any sleep...the 'box' posing situations...Very strong personalities...
OMG!!! I hardly have any finger nails left, starting to chew on anything not tied down...why oh why did I pick this month to move...I feel so far behind...why oh why do I have to sleep and work?
Good Morning Fellow ADDICTS!!! No matter what chat room you decide to go to ... they will all be on fire tonight!! I will be right here on the dish ... that is until they close for the night ...
So hope Rachel is only gathering information to plot Shelly's demise ...
I so want to be able to see Dani walk out and talk to Julie tonight ... so want ... WHO KNOWS???
Tiffany and Lscott... I am not caught up on flashback. Are you saying rachel is playing with dani because she said it or something you saw on flashback? Or are you hoping?
I will be pretty bummed if Dani stays. I like JEJO, Rach and Adam for F4.
And has Jeff confronted Shelly yet? If so, can someone give a fb time?
And for the beautiful coverage that I started reading before even a cup of coffee... Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Good morning, Caro. Good morning, Dishers!
So glad you are out of harms way, Caro. Looks like I am not (NJ) Oy Vey.
I think Rachel is blowing smoke up Shelly and Dani's bums to catch Shelly for the liar she is. Rachel may be many things, but stupid, she is not. I think this may be the one time where being and playing emotional may help Rachel. Who would have ever thought?!
I am upset since today is my relax day from the feeds yet run around like a nut and get everything done that I have been procrastinting about all week and HOH lockdown is going to be intense, but I don't think anything will be said until after HOH tonight.
I can't wait to see their faces when they realize it's a fast forward week. I am so glad that BB has it happening a week earlier b/c school starts next Wednesday for me and well, BB is most likely going to have to take a back seat. :(
Speaking of Fast Forward, I can't wait to see how the POV plays out. Will all 7 get to play or will they take time away from their 60 minutes to pick players? Maybe they'll do some sort of lottery earlier in the day that will determine who sits out. So may scenarios they could pick from.
I wish the show was still on at 8EST.
UGH! Okay, peeling myself away to get a jump start so I can park my bum at 6pm EST to watch Missy & Chelsia and any last minute chat between the HGs before they cut the feeds.
Have a good day, everyone! :)
Morning Dishies!!
I have to do payroll today otherwise I would be at home.
SNIKEY!
I didn't even get a chance to watch last night's show yet!!!
It should be up on CBS by now......
Does anyone know, if Shelley found out that Danielle told Rachelle about the puppy? Also, does anyone know what condition the puppy is in? Shelley had threatened to destroy it, but did she?
There's a bacon-fest in Kansas City this weekend.
I want to go, but no kiddos. So, I can't go.
BA-CON!
Maybe Adam can come as a celebrity host next year!
Chelle
Rachel accomplished her goal, she found out who stole her personal propoerty, she knows where porische stands, she knows where shelly stands.
what did Dani get in this deal?
bupkus!
Hey Dishers, Carolyn and Genie Sea!!!
OK...so ofcourse I'm freaking out and everything but I do believe that Rachel is going to stick it to Dani and Shelly. Rachel, Jeff and Jordan did a good job convincing her that Dani was lying and unfortunately she does have a bad record of doing it in the game. When Shelly went to Rachel in the bathroom...Rachel looked hesitant to go with her and tight lip but she must have decided to go along with it so they would leave her alone. I love the pic Carolyn put of Dani, Shelly and Rachel in the storage room cause you can clearly see Rachel's evil smile...I bet she was thinking "I'm going to screw you so hard Shelly"...lol!!!! I have a good feeling that Dani is going to be walking out that door today and going to Jury...Shelly is freaking out and she has that gut feeling already that is letting her know she F...up!!!
GO Rachel, Adam, and Jordan for HoH!!!!
Ladies and Gentleman
Good morning... I hinted at this before...
But I know from an inside source, production team members who stay up at night (without being monitored) who are 'the new guys' HAVE BEEN leaking information in the DR to several players, including Rachel and Dani, and are able to guide the scripted outcome...
Yes this is completely against the rules but is done in such a way as not to have AGP get in trouble...
However, this has been going on for several seasons.
Thank you!
*Stands up and claps* Standing ovation for the Queen of TOR! And she ain't even done yet!
Hi Carolyn,
Hi Genie,
Hi everyone,
All I can say is wow...this is going to be a big day and even bigger night. I love how all the plotting is going on and when Julie says tonight is DE, everyone is going to panic.
So glad I am better...
Thanks for all your hard work through all this..you are the best..
Pam xoxox
Lulu posts: There's blindly trusting, of course, but theirs out-cho-mind trusting that gets you no where with only yourself to blame, and that's where Rachel would fall with this one.
I almost spit my coffee all over my computer at work!! HOLY CRAP!! love the out-cho-mind!! I will be using this phrase ... However, I am going to hold out hope that Rachel will vote Dani out, you know, make her feel safe that she has the votes, then when Julie says by a vote of 4 to 1, Kalia you are safe ... the look on Dani's face will be priceless ...
All you Dani fans, please know that I understand there is still hope and by no means do I know what the final outcome tonight will be .. this is only my opinion ...
I am going to take an Advil like everyone in the house--these HGs are giving me a headache!!
All I can say is Rachel is not very bright. How does working with Shelly, Dani, and Porsche make any sense at all. Whatever Jeff did, Him and Jordan have been nicer and more loyal to her than those vipers.
they stole her dog. they laugh about her being pregnant, having herpes, and countless other things. and now in a moment of anger you are gonna team up with your 3 biggest enemies in the house??
One word. Stupid. even dani fans have to admit that
DId anyone else catch that part of the wall fell off in the Nave Not room? It still has the library/bookshelf theme underneath it....
On the bright side... Kalia's gone!
wait! did rachel just agree to vote kalia out? or is she playing with us all! either way pretending to be mad at dani and yelling was pretty funny!
Morning Everyone! I have TMR ready to go and will publish as soon as game talk happens. :)
Good Morning everyone!
If Rachel is really playing Dani, this is absolutely brilliant...and I Love It!!!!!
But no one is as brilliant as Carolyn and Genie...you ladies ROCK with this brilliant coverage! Thanks for being here!!
I have no idea what rachel is going to do, but if she keeps dani, she got played. Played hard.
I love that dani said rachel is really mean to her.
What I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY don't understand is why rachel hid dani's doll, came out of the DR an hour later, and put it back. That seems SO fishy to me. I doubt it was her own decision. But why was brendon allowed to walk out the door without his duck, and I bet the same would happen to rachel if she's evicted before finding her puppy. What the hell gives?!
Lawon at one point owned Stupidest Move in the game,
Now it does like Rachel has flipped and she now owns worst move ever.
How come someone be so naive?
I am just lived with all this. its not about liking or not liking Dani at all as I rooted for her and her dad to beat the odds, but if the newbies want to win, they need to get out Dani too.
I'm not sure why anyone thinks that J&J feel priveledged because all the newbies worship them. Which newbies are you talking about? The only newbies that have been on their side are Shelly and Adam.
Dani is the one all of the newbies have had a love fest with. But because of her strategy she lost half of them and now she is trying to shove Kalia out the door.
Morning Genie!
Hi Genie,
Who is going to blow-up first today????
Good day for the live feeds....
xoxox
Rachel maybe playing with Dani and Shelly... but this is the perfect time to make a big move in the house. She knows that Dani is right, if they vote her out it is a sure win for Jeff or Jordan to win the game. Rachel isn't stupid she knows if Dani is sent home and if Kalia, Shelly or Adam win HOH she is going up. But if she votes to keep Dani she will have only Adam and Jordan to worry about putting her up.It's all in the numbers.. Dani and Rachel may hate one another...but I think that they could work together to the final 3 and we all need to remember that Rachel isn't happy with Jeff and Jordan for not voting for Brenden to stay last week because of their umm alliance like they woud have done if it was Jeff on the block..this may be a good time to stick it to em.. besides I still want Dani to stay in the house. I want to see her and Rachel go at it in a endurance competition.. :) It will make good tv... lol
I've wanted a Rachel/Dani alliance all game. Please let this be true!
chell i think shes playing dani for a fool rach turned jj agienst shelly thats what she wanted
kahlia will def. be blindsided by the double eviction, cant wait 4 it
OMG - I am seriously freaking out over the possibility that Rachel may actually be buying Dani's schtick (see how I cleaned that up?) I really feel that Rachel so much wants to be accepted by the girls that she might go all in with them. If she actually does turn her back on the only people who have truly been looking out for her, I'm going to be disappointed. Brendon will have a cow (wait, that might be a good thing) if she walks away from an opportunity to send Dani to the jury house. Wow.
If Rachel really has turned and votes Dani to stay then she's a dumb(insert cuss here) and I'm joining the production-is-interfering-way-too-much-this-season riot that's starting up.
And I was just starting to actually like Rachel, for a half-second there.
This is really awesome. Even Rachel is a little hesitant about flipping on Jeff and Jordan even though they completely have the numbers!!! Jeff has a noose around Adam's neck and that is really hilarious! I couldn't stop laughing last night when Jeff and Jordan were discussing, in private, about the possibility of Shelly and Adam flipping on them. Even Jeff thought that this would be the best time to flip the house if Adam really wanted to go through with it (HA!) and he asked Jordan, incredulously, "...wouldn't you want to keep Dani if you wanted to flip?" LOL-too funny! Jeff goes on to use choice words on Adam, how he is a "...F***in Bozo..." and has done "..F***in S**t.." in this game and finally how he is so "..draining". Poor Adam!
Adam, Adam, Adam, I don't understand how this huge Big Brother fan, who tried years and years to get on the show is satisfied in rolling over. I held so much hope for him this past week. Considering how poorly Kalia was performing on the practice snake-ball set-up in their backyard, I would've thought he was going to reconsider flipping the house to keep Dani. But then when he decided to tell Dani that he was 100% not going to keep her, that made it very clear that he was never going to turn on the Jeff-Jordan alliance! I really don't get him! Adam appears to be completely petrified by Jeff's fury if he were to flip-and I guess I can understand that, he holds Jeff in high regards (as do many people in the house) and would rather maintain their relationship than to oust himself as a serious player (and maintain his status as a coattail rider).
I am so glad there are people playing this game with the respect that they should have for it-it's not just chump change, its half a million dollars (don't just hand it over especailly at this point in this game)! Yay to Rachel, Dani, Jeff, and even Shelly + Porsche. Yay to Jordan for being the cutest, sweetest house guest ever!
I'm going to weigh in on production tampering.
Ragan spoke to it last night on "Getting Schooled". He categorically denies that DR in any way leaks information or tries to sway the house guests.
I don't know about you, but I would rather take the word of someone who's been in the game, over mysterious unnamed "sources".
Anyone know what the Zingbot said to Kalia? It's the only one I couldn't understand. Thanks!
Is anyone else freaking out about tonight??? I don't think it can get much better than this...... Possibly the biggest house flip on a double eviction night???? This is insane!!!! *** I hope that Rachel doesn't flip I would love nothing more than to see Dani "The Mean Girl Leader," sent home and for JeJo to come out on top BUT it would make for great tv if she did flip!!! So excited!!!!
Well said Genie...
Thank you Genie!!! I haven't been getting caught up on the other superpass sites, I can hardly keep up with BB13 as it is now!!!
I believe Ragan.
Okay, well, I hope you ladies do get some type of break today because tonight will be off the hook!!!
If the worst case happens and both Shelly and Rachel flip (Shelly is still very much a wild card in my view), then the live show may be one big bleep fest because of the f-bombs that Jeff will be throwing. The feeds are a MUST tonight for anyone who doesn't have them yet. The aftermath will be on fire no matter what happens during the live show.
Another thought is wouldn't it be funny if both Rachel and Shelly are playing along with this flip scenario as an attempt to out the other one with J/J when the vote goes down?
It is kind of fun not knowing what is going to happen tonight - I doubt if anything gets cleared up for us today with the feeds in and out.
Another point Regan made is that BB contestants have to be quiet for only 3 yrs after the show.
if there were all this going on they would be screaming it from the roof tops after that 3 yrs.
also he compared it to seeing a therapist,he said in there you talk out your thoughts & often have "light bulb" moments while doing so.
but if it makes you feel better to believe it. Go ahead!
My predictions for tonight:
Dani evicted (Rachel is full of it right now)
Adam wins balls HOH, evicts Rachel.
2nd HOH is T/F or A/B which aren't Jeff and Jordan's strong areas.
If J/J happen to win, Shelly and Porche will go up, Porche will go home.
If Porche, Shelly or Kalia win, Jeff is out.
grendon, your sense is almost 100%, but the vote will be 3-2, and then shelly is cooked.
rachel played this absolutely perfect. she got dani and shelly out the door.
a genius!
Oh my,I feel like I need blood pressure meds this morning.
Why, oh Why, oh why, would anyone team up with someone who outed your partner.......excuse me....your fiance, not once but twice.
Also to partner with that person, you would have to work with someone who put your duck in the TOILET!! Not the trash, not in the dirt, not in someones stinky shoe, but the TOILET!! I dont care that it was in a ziploc. It was the TOILET!!
Also to parter with the one that has your puppy. Your favorite item that you have been asking for for weeks. Any why did she take your puppy? Cause "she hates your guts!".
Heres to hoping Rachelle see's this exactly as I do.
Genie,
I understand what Ragan said, but there were no vets or friends of production last season ;)
Now I'm really confused. If Shelly gets screwed in this deal she's gonna be irate. Irate at who? She is the one that instigated all of this mess. If it works, kudos to her. I'm sure she'll give herself a pat on the back. But if it doesn't work and she gets screwed, she better aim that hand at the mirror and slap herself in the face because it's no on else's fault.
I wonder if Rachel and Dani's talk is due in part to Rachel's insecurities and her needing the popular girls to like her? She seems like she's always on the outside looking in to the cool kids, not really fitting in. Just my thoughts ... still hoping Dani walks out the door.
Genie Sea said...
I don't know about you, but I would rather take the word of someone who's been in the game, over mysterious unnamed "sources".
[ XX ] LIKE 1 million percent I agree
My prediction:
Tonight's show will generate the highest about of comments on a post this season.
Remember a couple of season's ago when there would be over 1,000 on a show post?????
Let's do it again!!
Genie
you know as well as any of us production played a big role in "the lie" natalie told jeff. what their role is, we don't know, but we all know its there
I understand if Ragan says that DR doesn't interfere, but that was his experience with his season... Normally I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, but I wouldn't doubt if this one is true, only because of all the things (diary giving Dani wine, her saying they'd quit if she left, Shelly's 180 degree turn afterwards and the things Shelly has said)...
So I'm sure Ragan's right in general, but something seems fishy in this case (in my opinion)...
I really wish they would talk to the camera's and fill us peeps in on what the heck they are doing... because it looks as if Rach is still on the vets side.. They should have a live feed viewers booth... the could go into the booth whenever they like and just start talking to us with no worries of the other house guests... kinda like the DR but we get to see it... :) Just an idea...
started to think that shelly was playing into Dani to get her hopes up and to get info but doesnt appear to be... what baffles me is that they are all listening to Dani's smoke... when she is just as much a threat as Jeff is... but they should be "afraid" of jeff... hmmm just saying.. TY
im really confused, why did shelly get to take Rachel's dog, and Rachel wasn't allowed to take Dani's stuffed animal?
I could have seen Adam swaying but RACHEL? Her new "alliance" spends more time talking bad about her than talking to her - I don't see how she could honestly consider them to be good allies. Danielle got Brendan out twice! What happened to redemption and no-one-getting-in-between-her-and-her-man! -.- While I would be impressed if Danielle stayed I am hoping that Shelly's game explodes in her face and there is an all-out-brawl on the patio.
Also, I wanted to say I SINCERELY appreciate all the work that goes into making this website possible. You guys are the best!
I dont think Rachel will flip, but we got to understand something here. Jeff threw the pov comp which sent B home. not cool. This season their is no riding coat tails its everyone for themselves. J/J are looking out for J/J not anyone else. I do want it to be J/J/R at the end but Im not going to sit here and pretend they have tried to help Rachel when they pretty much helped send Brendon home.
Stellar TOR Carolyn!! *Applause Applause*
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I see where you are coming from Genie but and I watched Ragan too. But these HGs have brought up what the said in "the box" too many times this year and also this year, Dani has a crush in there and a friend. Who really knows but those 3. I will never stop watching either way.
Hi Caro
Hi Genie
Hi Dishers
Wow literally 10 minutes after I get tired of watching the BY practice and call it a night they go at it full force!
I really hope Rach don't flip and go with an alliance of people she knows don't like her, have made personal attacks, and even stole from her. She needs to look at how many times each has flipped and backstabbed and stay where they're solid. IMO.
Thankks for the awesome coverage and FB times Caro! The Dish is the BEST!
Before I woke up to all this craziness, I actually hadn't planned on talking about Jeff or Dani. I planned on talking about Shelly.
My feeling is that Shelly actually does not like herself much at this point-for good reason. Since I have no idea of the outcome tonight I can't run possible scenarios. But I can say what I would like to see in Shelly's future.
If Dani stays, I hope that Shelly realizes that all Dani needed was a vote and now Shelly is expendable. I hope that if Shelly is evicted it happens when Dani, Jeff or Jordon is HOH. Depending on who is left standing after DE I hope that Jeff, Jordon and Adam give Shelly the cold shoulder for the rest of the game-in the BB house and the jury house. I hope Jordon even turns on the tears and tells everyone that the reason she is so upset is because she thought Shelly was her friend.
This has nothing to do with who I am rooting for in the game. It has everything to do with Shelly herself. She has in one way or another been awful to everybody. Especially her friends. Cassi is probably still healing from the knife wound in her back. When she was pretending to be on Dani's side she voted to evict Dom. When she was pretending to be on Kalia and Dani's side she got Lawon evicted. She has said awful things about Rachel. Before Rachel was her target she said awful things about Kalia and Porsche. She has talked constant crap on Adam and is trying to set him up to take the fall for her moves. And the relationship between her and Jordon is very personal so this betrayal will hurt far deeper than a strategic move.
I realize everyone is entitled to play the game. Shelly started out good but she went way too far. And what has any of this strategy got her? She was #3 in an alliance that she probably couldn't have won in. Now she'll be #4 in an alliance she probably can't win in.
After all is said and done, at the finale I hope Josie walks up to her mom and says, "You shouldn't have lied so much and you should have picked a side." Then I hope she walks up to Rachel and hands her a stuffed toy from her own personal collection and says, "I wanted you to have this because you looked so sad when my mommy took your dog."
I know none of this will happen and I know it is slightly vindictive of me, but it makes me feel better to imagine it.
Thanks very much everyone :)
I wish I could greet you all personally right now, but I went wayyyyy over, and I have an appointment I have to get to.
I'll see you back here later this afternoon. :)
Genie don't even bother
People believe what they want, sure production will has the right questions to get a HG thinking, I believe that. but I do not believe they say OH you should do this, go out there & vote fore Dani..
if that were the case Adam would have been flipped. Brendon would have never left etc..
Also, I really hope Dishers understand that days like today are going to be insane on the feeds, & transcribing will be a completely nightmere, Genie & caro also have to READ (not just publish) every single comment made.
I know I will keep that in mind before I spout off every single thought in my head :D
Great Job Caro on the TOR!! ♥♥
Can anyone watching the feeds clarify.
Via the Overnight Report it looks like RAchel is on the girl side, but can what makes you think she is just playing them. I can't tell anything as I don't have the feeds.
I would love Carolyn's or Genies takes on all this.
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Thursday Wake up Flip
This is why BB is such a big deal. You always have to expect the unexpected.
Of course the one night i was awake, but new if i watched feeds i would never fall to sleep, I should have been watching.
I am the ultimate floater with my favs and I see it changing over and over. I love this game :)
Thank you Caro and Genie for all you do!
Carolyn and Genie:
YOU GUYS ROCK!!!Thank you so much for all your hard work, sleepless nights and kick butt updates. You gals deserve a place in the BB hall of fame and this Addict thanks you from the bottom of her heart! <3
Alot of people are saying that it's a stupid move for Rachel to flip but it's te only way she can survive the double eviction because Kalia,Adam,Shelly,and Porsche said they would put her up anyway and would have been voted out anyway. But if she makes this move only Adam or Jordan will put her up because everyone else will want to put up Jeff with Jordan or Adam.
I hate that Thursday nights is an hour later. I am so confused what happened right after they met in the storage room?? aye ya ya. Is today over yet.
People are saying she wont flip becasue dany eveicted Brendon. She is not playing the normal way Brendon told her to mix it up and when she found out the VETO to save Branson was thrown by Jeff She changed tunes, She is mad at Jeff he has bcome the reason Brendon left
Who would you rather have fighting for your life Adam and Jordan or Rachel Dani Porsche and well Shelly. Dani traded up man this like runnnig a Fantasy Team
Dani Traded Lawon got back Rachel, Shelly
now kalia's HoH becsuase Rachel is a better competitor on your side but you have to deal with her crap
Honestly I don't even thin Rachel would kick someone when they are this down Brthday as a have not that is going home 100% by people she protected the last three weeks.
Rachel has a heart and no one with a hart would do that.
Thanks Dishchicks
@Grendon...As I've told you before, I agree with everything you so eloquently(?) say. I agree about the returning houseguests, especially those that have special relationships with members of the production staff. Really doesn't seem up and above board to let someone have an unfair advantage. Even if Dani wins, and I do believe that 'they' will see that happens it will still be on the coat tails of someone else.
I still haven't been to bed and I was waiting for your response. Thanks.
Rachel is making a brilliant move. She makes them think she is voting to keep Dani. So - if Shelly votes to keep Dani she is exposed when Rachel votes to keep Kalia. HOWEVER - if Shelly votes to evict Dani as well as Rachel, then Shelly is exposed to Kalia and Porsche, especially Porshe and the whole house will be after them. No matter what, everyone will be on to SHelly no matter how it turns out. NO WAY is Rachel voting to keep Dani. I think she came up with all this when Jordan revealed that Shelly said the duck was in the toilet...her mind started thinking and here we have it...she got Dani to tell her Shelly took the puppy...so Shelly will only have herself to blame for speaking out about the duck to Jordan while she is smoking her cigs in the jury house!
The reason I dont think Rachel will keep Daniel is because she gave too much information to Jeff and Jordan last night and usually they are more talkative to the people they are really with I have had the live feeds for many years and learned this..I think she is setting up Shelly and is mad about the toys being that she never mentioned it to her. also I think shes still mad at Dani for putting out Brendon...twice...and even the convo she had with Shelly in the bathroom she didnt talk much about what was said upstairs last night and the way Rachel is she would have given details if she was reall with Shelly...I will be shocked and disappointed if I am wrong...I dont know about you guys but Dani is the most miserable cry face person ever on BB very sore loser...fingers crossed for J/J
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