Andy's Pre Nomination HoH Meetings
Good afternoon, BB Lovers! Andy's HoH Meetings started at 11am with Helen.. Hers was the longest and very telling.. The rest are contained below as well.. If this is your first time on BBDish today, and you need catching up, here are the links to today's previous posts: Friday Morning, The Overnight Report.
In short, Andy's Nominations will be Jessie and Spencer, with Jessie as the target. In the event Jessie wins the PoV, Andy will switch it up and get GM up and out.
Andy: Ok, so I'm gonna put up Jessie and Spencer, and I'm gonna explain to Spencer that no matter what happens this week, there is no way he is going home.
Helen; OK.. lemme give you a heads up.. Aaryn wants to keep Jessie in the house, because Jessie has said she wont come after her. Who is best for your game?
Helen; OK. What is best for your game is best for my game. Jessie is a wild card. And if she's not willing to go after Aaryn..
Andy: Then she's gonna want to put you up.. or Amanda and McCrae. But the thing is, I don't want her to know she's my target.. I'm gonna tell her, if I put you up, don't freak out, I have a plan to get a bigger threat out..
Helen: And that'll calm her down..
Andy: Best case scenario, the veto doesn't get used. Ooops. Bye. If the Veto does get used.. Then GM goes up and she has to go.. If Spencer wins the PoV, Amanda was like, you can put me up, and it would be you, Elissa and McCrae voting to keep her.. Also, I could put you up, it looks like I'm making my big move, Jessie's blindsided, Jessie goes home.
Helen: I do not want to go up.
Andy: If you're not cool with it, you're not going up..
Helen: Just between you and me, I want us to think about how this game goes the next couple weeks.. We have 6 opportunities to get rid of everyone here. Let's see how it goes with PoV.. I know you want no blood on your hands.. But we don't have a lot of weeks left and I'm afraid of Amanda and McCrae.
Andy: They have time and again proven to me that they are trustworthy.. If it's down to you and me against Elissa, they'll take out Elissa. They would come after anyone before you and I. Without a doubt. 100%. Like I'm telling you. I trust them as much as I trust you. Even Elissa has gone rogue a couple times and they haven't. Spencer has lied to me, and they haven't.
Helen: They're just so strong.
Andy: But they're not. Amanda doesn't win competitions..
Helen: ok.. I just wanted to get your thoughts on it..
Andy: We're not their targets. We're good.
Helen: I realize that.
Andy: If anything.. If they wanted to take a stab at us, they would go for Elissa. I just need to know that your loyalty is with me over Elissa.
Helen: It is. She's my really good friend, but she'll go rogue at any time.. Even yesterday, she was like, we have to keep Jessie in this game, she's a vote for us, and I was like, no, shes not.. she's a vote for whoever's in power.
11:16am This is ongoing on camera 3 and 4..
Helen: I know you want to keep McCrae and Amanda close. I worry about it. We don't have much time.
Andy: Here's the thing, if I don't make a move against them, we will have zero people coming after us next week.. This game is all about timing, and I just don't feel it's time to pull the trigger.
Helen: I know Aaryn's gonna tell you she wants Spencer to leave, but she did say she would do what you want.. Spencer needs to win HoH next week..
Andy: Let me ask you.. If you were HoH this week, who would you put up?
Helen: I'd put up Amanda and McCrae. And then I would make a deal with one to keep em, and then have the house evict the other one. But that's me. And if you're not comfortable with that, I'm not gonna make you do that.
Andy: I know that those are 2 people that are on our side. If either gets HoH next week, we are not going up. I genuinely feel like if I get Jessie or GM out this week, next week, zero people are coming after you or me.
Helen: If no one's gunning after us, Andy, then we're not playing the best game.
**Andy's showing great patience.. At least with this, he knows he cannot safely put Amanda on the block this week.
Helen: I love them to death, but they will be the 2 reasons we don't win.
Andy: The time will come, but it's not yet.
Helen: So if I play in the pov and win it?
Andy: Don't use it.
Helen: I just wanna put the bug in your ear.. You wanna make big moves in your HoH. If I win in next week, I might do it.
Andy: And if we do do it.. McCrae has to go over Amanda.
Helen: I totally agree. McCrae could win the 1st one..
Andy: 6 chances. That's a ton!
Andy: If I can pull this off and Jessie goes home, I think I'll come out of this with no blood on my hands.
Timecheck -- 11:42am Helen leaves HoH and goes downstairs to talk to Amanda, who stresses loyalty above all as the key this game as the way to make it to the end..
Andy stays up in HoH listening to music..
Outside, Spencer and Jessie are chatting about Pawn Stars..
Skippy flips camera 1 up to HoH for the very end of Andy's meeting with Jessie, then he asks to have Amanda and McCrae sent up..
Andy: Alright? I don't think people will know that. If people are not loyal to me this week, then f*ck them. I've been so loyal. If I don't get what I want to happen this week, I'm gonna be so pissed. And people will know that they'll lose my trust..
Jessie: Soooo... valuable.. Alright. Well I trust you, Andy.
I'm hanging out exclusively to see if Andy tells them about Helen wanting them nominated.. and That's a No. In fact, he tells McCrae that Helen is very wary of putting anyone other than Ginamarie up..
Andy: I feel like Amanda and Helen take the brunt of everything we do.
Andy: But that's also a testament to our gameplay...
Ginamarie comes up. Andy tells her she's not going up.
Andy: I told Jessie that she's going up and she's not my target, just because I want the water to be calm..
GM: (says lots of things, none of which merit transcribing)
Andy: Just know.. play it cool with Jessie.. If you get picked, I want the noms to stay the same.
Spencer's turn..but he's in the shower.. Andy and Spencer have already spoken outside anyway..
Andy: I just wanna talk to Elissa, Poopy and Spencer.
Andy: Helen, why don't you come up too?
Andy fills Elissa in on the plan to nominate and evict Jessie.. and that he created a Jessie-calming scenario, where in she's not the target in her mind.
Andy: Even though she seems cool, as we've seen, she can flip in a second.
Helen: So we have to make Jessie feel like she's safe this week.
Elissa: Yeah, ok, cool.
Andy: And I'm gonna tell Spener, you are safe no matter what.. and even if the veto gets used.. It'll be GM going up.. Are you cool with that?
Elissa: Yeah. We love you Andy Bam Bam...
They hug and leave.
12:24pm -- Spencer's turn..
Andy: OK, so.. I'm plottin. Seriously, I don't want you going anywhere. I can't explicitly tell you anything, but if you go up, there is not 1` chance in hell that you're going anywhere. I wanna go into next week having no one coming after me, so I have solidified with everyone that Jessie is my target. Even if Jessie wins the PoV and takes herself off, then Ginamarie is going home. You have to understand that you're the one person.. I know that you trust me, and I trust everyone here to hold up to that. I wanna even tell you, like, don't pack your bags.. I don't want people to know how much I care about you.. You're like the one person where there isn't gonna be someone coming after me and you'll stay. I swear to God, you are not going home.
Andy: Whoever goes up against you, you are going to get zero votes.
Spencer: I trust you completely.. and for us moving forward, if there's no me, there's no us.
Spencer: Strictly between me and you, how on my side is Helen?
Andy: Helen told me to go after a bigger target. you're not even on her radar. If Helen gets HoH next week, you're not going anywhere. Just know, no matter what happens, I have solidified the votes.
Spencer: I'm ok with this.. but with this what I want you to do for me is include me.
Andy: Done. You're the only one who knows my entire plan for this week.
Spencer: I don't mean for just this week.. I'm cool with what you gotta do.. At the same time it's nerve wracking for me. I need to be involved with stuff.. in planning.. I feel very expendable.
Andy: I want you to know you're the last person here that's expendable to me.
The HGs are currently outside on lockdown.. waiting for the Have Not Food to be Revealed...
Andy And Aaryn
Cam 3 and 4
Andy: I want to fill you in. I'm putting up Jessie and Spencer, and I want Jessie to go home. With Spencer here, you're not going anywhere. Jessie might be thankful to you for yesterday, but she can flip on a dime, and she's been gunning for you for a long time. I've been working Spencer for weeks, and now that Judd's gone, I'm his only go to.
Aaryn: Is he not gonna be the target next week?
Andy: I only care about you, amanda, mcrae and Helen;
Andy: What I told Jessie, just to cool the waters.. If you go up today, just know that you're not my target and I'm ready to get a bigger target out..
Aaryn; If she comes down, would the target be GM?
Andy: Do you think she would be the best option?
Andy: Don't worry about Spencer.
Aaryn: I've put him up twice now.
Andy: But he's gotten zerop votes.. I have your back. I've been working on him hardcore to make sure he doesn't go after anyone I don't want him to go after. I've told her things to calm her down, and make her not try too hard for Veto. I kinda want to blindside Jessie.. I told her she's not the target.. and if nominations stay the same, I'll tell her Spencer's going home. Best case scenario, nominations stay the same. I got Spencer up here and told him everything too.. I would almost want to get SPencer out over GM, but I feel like she would gun for me if I put her up.
Aaryn: You're right. She probably would. She'd put up Jessie and You.
Andy: Yeah.. I don't want it to come to that.. If you get picked to play in the veto, just play your ass off and keep the noms the same.. Jessie has flipped on everyone here. She's dangerous.
Aaryn: Did you ask Spencer who he would put up?
Andy: I didn't.. but I can.
Aaryn: I just don't wanna be put up next to Amanda.
Andy: He wouldn't. The only 2 people he trusts are me and McCrae, and he would lose McCrae..
Aaryn: If GInamarie goes up as the 3rd person, she will have to go home, because she will go crazy, and I can't take it anymore. I might have to be the single vote against Spencer if she goes up, cuz she wouldn't unerstand.
Andy: I understand. Are you cool with this?
Aaryn: Yes. I understand why you're doing what you're doing... I'll do whatever you want.
Andy: Either way, I feel like we're getting rid of someone we don't really care about.
Aaryn: Did you tell Helen that Jessie's going for Amanda and McCrae?
Andy: No. It could be Helen and ELissa.. She just told me that she wanted to make a big move..
Aaryn: She wanted who
Andy: The Howard vote, she wanted to get Amanda out. She wanted me, Jessie, Spencer and Gm to flip and she thought you would break the tie and vote out Amanda.. That's the problem with her.. I can't have her coming after people that I.. Like she's said numerous times that she wants you out.
Aaryn: I don't want people coming after me because I've won a lot of stuff.. It makes me scared about Elissa, Spencer..
Andy: Either way, there's gonna be a combo of scary people here that we just have to beat.
Aaryn: Are we planning on the next target being Elissa? After Spencer, GM and Jessie?
Andy: I am. And Helen gets it too.. Just know that I am setting a plan to keep the waters calm.. and even if he did put you up, you'd have the votes to stay..
Aaryn: Even against Elissa?
Aaryn: We also need to take into consideration that the jury members might be able to vote..
Andy: Are you ok with this?
Aaryn: Yes. Jessie's gonna have a break down.. and if GM goes up.. I don't wanna be around her.
Andy: Just play dumb..
Following his meeting with Aaryn, Andy goes to the Chair Room and tells Spencer that he's now spoken with everyone, and Spencer is completely safe.
Andy heads outside and realizes he never had a one on one with Amanda, so he pulls her upstairs...
Cam 1 and 2
Amanda and Andy
Andy tells Amanda about all the conversations he's had, and divulges more information to her than he did to McCrae, but still protects Helen and the alliance..
Andy: I just don't feel comfortable putting you up. I feel like Helen and Elissa could decide to go rogue.. I don't think she's coming for you, but I feel like Wednesday night, she could get a bug in her ear and decide she needs to make a big move..
Amanda: No matter what, we just want Jessie to win the veto.
Andy: Just make Jessie thinks she's safe.. and then she's not. Boom. Gone.
Amanda: GInamarie has no numbers, and if you put her on the block and give her some collateral to hold on to, I feel like she'd be even more loyal to you..
Andy: I'll think about that more when we get there.
Amanda: I am so proud of us.
Andy: Me too.
**referring back to the very beginning...
Amanda: I love you. Sorry for being a sore loser.
Andy: I love you too. And if McCrae had beaten me, I would've been a sore loser too. I would've cried.
When Amanda heads downstairs, McCrae goes back up to HoH to check in with Andy and see how Spencer took it..
Andy: I told him, you have to understand, for my best game going forward, and for your best game going forward, we need me here without someone gunning after me.
***Ok.. I haven't taken a break at all yet today, and I really need to. I'll be back...