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Monday, August 2, 2010

Big Brother 12: Kristen's Bold Move

Good evening, Big Brother Lovers!

It's 6pm BBT, and as we check in on the live feeds, Kristen is making her pitch to stay to Lane. Kathy is helping...

Kathy: Who is Rachel. Nobody knows. I don't even think she knows.
Kristen: The thing is to make a bold play.

***This "bold play" Kristen's talking about is to keep her, because that's what Rachel doesn't want, and why give her what she wants? Kristen has been selling this bold play to anyone who will listen this afternoon. Incidentally, Kathy has already come out as a vote for her to stay... The kiss of death in BB12.

Lots of talk about Janelle and how Rachel is modeling herself after her... especially with the "Floaters get your life vests" comment.

Lane: She already had in her head what she was gonna say if she won HoH.
Kristen: Her logic just doesn't make any sense.
Lane: Why would she not want more women in the game.
Kathy: She doesn't want any women in the game. She wants to be the only one.
Lane: It's.. she.. you're both well liked in the house, but she thinks she can persuade Hayden easier than you.. You've proven that, so she wants you out of the house. That's the only reason.
Kristen: I'm just honest. That's the way I am.
Lane: You have mad respect from me for putting up with that arguing.. You held it back. I would've forgotten the cameras were on.

Lane goes off to play pool, leaving Kathy and Kristen smoking on the couch... and talking about Rachel.

Kristen: I don't want her to get her way.
Kathy: And she hates that. She wants to be the center of attention. Makes me sick.
Kristen: And she thinks I'm giving up too.
Kathy: Oh, does she?
Kristen: Yeah.. she keeps asking people, "How's Kristen?" I'm fine, b*tch. I'm not going anywhere... And I'd love nothing more than for Andrew to see that I'm still in this house. Bastard.
Kathy: Oh, I know.

The bash goes on... Then Kristen starts counting potential votes... Among them are Kathy (a sure thing), Matt (wrong), Britney, Ragan...

Kristen: If I leave, the 3 girls that are left are Rachel, Britney and you, and everyone still looks at you as a floater..

6:15pm BBT
Matt & Britney join them on the couch... Feeding time.

Britney: What're you up to?
Kristen: Game talkin'. What else am I gonna do?
Britney: Oh cool... I love how you're up front about it. You can game talk me later.
Kristen: I intend to.
Matt: Power point presentation, graphics, charts...

Enzo joins them on the couch too...

Kathy goes inside to grab some food for herself and Kristen. Lane joins.. The backyard couch is the dining table this evening.. Friendly chatter... Ragan joins..

Britney: How goes the unitard.
Kristen: Fab. I just had a cigarette while jazzercizing...

There will be a pool tournament this evening, starting very soon.

6:27pm BBT
The couch clears out for the pool tournament, until it's only Ragan and Kristen. He asks her if her DR made her feel better. She says it did, and she wishes she could tell him more about it.

Kristen: The more and more I think about it, in this case, I'm not sure it's going to be a majority thing, because people are really going to have to think: who's going to benefit me more in this game. Two huge competitors haven't been up against each other before. Everyone's gonna have to consider that. Like, honestly, for you, I think it would benefit you more to keep me.

Kathy is sitting there, silently...

Ragan: Who else have you got?
Kristen: So far, Kathy.
Ragan: That's a given.
Kristen: Since I've been in this house, I've laid everything out on the line, as is, which is a very different approach.. Like, nobody can say I'm a snake or a liar.
Ragan: Have you talked to Britney and Enzo?
Kristen: I'm gonna talk to everyone. At first, I wasn't gonna talk to Brendon, but I should, because at a certain point, Hayden's gonna be a bigger threat to Brendon than I would be.
Ragan: Right.
Kristen: It's just the truth.
Ragan: Right.
Kristen: I just think it's time for the house to start thinking about what's more beneficial to them in the game.. And keeping Hayden isn't for more than half the people in the game.
Ragan: The problem is, if the numbers are against them, it becomes dangerous for them.. But if you can make that case.
Kristen: The point is, why does Rachel want me out of the house so badly, when Hayden's gonna turn around and do the exact same thing to them, and he's already won an Hoh.
Ragan: I think that you have a case to bring to Brendon then.. Who does he want to compete against in the next HoH?
Kristen: It kills me to have to do this, but I'm on the block for personal reasons, and I don't wanna leave this house.

Ragan advises her to just talk to the both of them, since that's how they work.

Ragan: You're very smart. I think you know which votes you can get, and which are the harder votes. You have to work there first.

6:37pm BBT
Rachel and Brendon join the group on the couch, ending the conversation in progress... THey eat in virtual silence, bookended by the joyful spirits of Kathy & Kristen.

6:41 BBT
Hayden joins the couch crew and conversation returns.

6:49pm BBT
Rachel and Brendon leave the couch and the silent bookends, Kristen & Kathy, resume happy conversation. Give them a moment.. they'll start bashing. Oh! There it is.

7:05pm BBT
The women of the house are gathered on the couch, talking about family... Britney's presence is this only thing keeping conversation moving and positive.

The guys are all gathered around the pool table, being guys, making small talk and avoiding the confrontation and unpleasantness that may erupt from the women...

7:37pm BBT
Cabana Room
Britney & Kristen

Lather, rinse, repeat... The Bold Move...

Britney: I think you should have the conversation for sure, just be careful with what you say to Matt. Lane and Enzo are cool though. Just keep talking to people.
Kristen: This sucks! Even if I stay, it sucks that this happened so early. I just feel like I'm such an asset to someone, because I'm so honest, and I do what's right. I'm an asset, and somebody needs to think about that. I don't think there are too many people in the house like me. Kathy is surprisingly honest and straightforward (***BAHAHAHAHA), but she's not a competitor.. and people need to consider what's best for them... And another reason I think Rachel wants me gone is that for Brendon, it's worse to have Hayden here, but for her, it's worse to have me here. I'm gonna talk to Brendon about that...
Britney: Alright, well keep me posted.
Kristen: I will.
Britney: Thanks for the talk.

Britney skedaddles out of there fast!

7:41pm BBT
Backyard - Couch
Rachel & Kathy

Rachel's explaining to Kathy how a double eviction week works. Ragan's involved in the conversation too, for backup, from across the yard... Then he comes to join them on the couch. He's got more details on the double eviction.

As Kristen isn't present, Kathy deigns to be pleasant and chatty with Rachel...

8:00pm BBT
Around the house...
  • Big Brother 101 continues on the couch, with Kathy, Ragan and Rachel.
  • Britney's playing pool with Brendon, telling him that Kristen just appealed to her for a vote, and that she'll be talking to everyone...
  • Enzo's getting some cardio on the elliptical...
  • Kristen & Hayden are in the Cabana Room, making eyes and playing footsie, literally. She tells him she's campaigning, but she'll never say anything bad about him, just what's good about her.
  • Lane's messing around with the lasso...

8:07pm BBT

Lane and Britney, the BB12 should've been siblings, take to wrasslin'

8:19pm BBT
They have 4 bottles of wine... Sangria will be made shortly...
For the moment...
  • Enzo & Matt are playing pool...
  • Rachel's on the elliptical...
  • Britney, Hayden and Lane are laughing together on the double chaise, and watching the pool match...
  • Kathy & Kristen are holed up in the Cabana room, talking smack about Rachel.
8:25pm BBT
Ragan and Hayden

Ragan: I really think it's gonna be a house vote. Here's the thing.. You should make logical cases to everyone, just as Kristen should...
Hayden: I still feel like..
Ragan: This is what I told Kristen, and I told her I would tell you exactly the same thing. Campaigning for yourself is vastly different from campaigning against someone else. You both are strong players. I think it's an uphill battle for Kristen, but the flip of that is, I don't think you should be complacent.
Hayden: I don't feel safe at all. If the vote was tonight, I feel like I could win 4-3 or 5-2... but it's not til Thursday, and a lot can change.

Ragan: I think it's gonna be a 6-1 vote. I'm not saying it should be, but I think it will be. You're both great people and strong competitors... It's not like last week where you can just sit back and watch someone self-destruct. I think ultimately, most people in the house feel the same as I do, so the person who stays in the house will be the most logical choice... This isn't gonna be an emotional choice, it's gonna be what makes sense... So the conversations over the next couple days should focus on that. Your case is that you've been consistently good in everything you've done...

Hayden gets Ragan's gist... Keeping him helps the rest of the house get rid of Brendon and Rachel at some point.

Ragan: I just can't believe that one of you is gonna be gone at week four.
Hayden: It's pretty crazy.
Ragan: So have you and Kristen talked about how you're gonna handle this week?
Hayden: Yeah.. I told her I want her to campaign.

8:37pm BBT

Rachel: Ragan! Do you wanna come take a bath with me and Britney??

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Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Checking in on my favorite Dish! And the critters in the house . . .

Kristen is going to try hard. I just don't see her swaying the Brigade. They have been pretty adamant that even if she was up against Kathy, they would have voted her out.

Her smooching with Hayden has rocked the brigade boat and they don't need no stinkin life vests . . . they are not floaters . . . they are sinkers!

I will be checking in and out tonight, must get to the gym . . . must get to the gym . . . must get . . . gotta talk myself into tonight.

Catch ya all on the flip side . . .

August 2, 2010 at 6:27 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

good evening! At this point, Kristen has nothing to lose. It's been made clear that Rachel wants her gone and of course, everyone (except Kathy) is going to follow her lead. I may not like Kathy, but I give her credit for voting for herself and not the house. If I were Kristen, I would fight like heck to stay. Tell Rachel and Brendon that her and Hayden were/are romantic, but that's all- not a "true" alliance. Say that she never said she would put up B&R untill this week after the blowup.(true) say that everyone (with the exception of Ragan) has made it clear they want them out(including her new BFF, Britney)Go for it,girl!worst case, Rachel doesnt buy it and she goes-and she most likely is anyway. she's not even going to jury, so she doesnt have to see these people till the after party. Now, if she really, truly cares about Hayden, she may bot be able to do it, but something tells me she is thinking for herself now. It's a game-play it!

August 2, 2010 at 6:27 PM  
Blogger MG said...

Hey Carolyn, glad you're back. And Genie, sweet Genie you did a GREAT job this afternoon!!

First I just need to ask "is there any way that no one goes home this Thursday?"

I don't think so. I won't be sorry to see Kristen leave. I am so sick of people bashing other peoples game play as they do THE SAME THING!!

What, no one can lie but Cathy, Kristen and Hayden?

I can't wait to laugh hysterically when Lame, Enzo, Ragan, Britney and Matt realize that Kristen IS NOT Hayden's sister!!

Why those two think they can continue to lie about their relationship amazes me. Are they going to say that BB made fake photos? That the feeds are all a lie?

August 2, 2010 at 6:29 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

I am kinda liking Kris's Idea of letting Hayden go and keeping Kris around. She does have a point about the female thing and Rachel wanting to get rid of them all and Rachel being the only one left, but I can also see that back firing on her too and then all the guys getting her out once she is the only one lol.

August 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Does Kristen have anything to bargain with?

The only secret left in the house is the Brigade right.

August 2, 2010 at 6:33 PM  
Blogger DarkStar said...

khrist will leave I am 99% sure of this. Hay can stay because the bragade

August 2, 2010 at 6:33 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

there you are! :)

I thought i was all by my lonesome this evening!

Hi StephanieWC! :)
Hi LisaM! :)
Hi MG! :)
Hi MIchigan Man! :)
Hi DarkStar! :)
Hi Stephanie! :)

August 2, 2010 at 6:40 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Carolyn, did you really think you were all alone? Oh, shucks, how can we leave our favorite dish alone?

How long you gonna hang out? Gotta get to the gym so wondering if I should hang a few or if you'll be around . . .

August 2, 2010 at 6:44 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

We would never leave you alone Carolyn, we love ya to much to leave you in the mad house like that :-p

August 2, 2010 at 6:45 PM  
Blogger Therese said...

Wow, I had some catching up to do. I had a chance to check in on my phone this morning, and all day I have been wondering what was going to happen.

I am glad Brittney did not use the POV, I don't think it would have been a good move for her, and we know it wouldn't have been a good move for Rachel or Brendon, who I would like to see around a while more.

I think unless something serious happens the boys will keep Hayden so they can stay strong in numbers.

It will be interesting to see the next thing Kristen comes up with.

Michigan Man: I don't think Kristen knows about the brigade, right? I don't think she has anything to bargain with.

August 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM  
Blogger SpArKs said...

Hello everyone!

I still don't believe Kristen has a chance in hell but koodos to her for trying. Kathy: "She(Rachel) makes me sick." ahaha come Thrusday night she be chasing Rachel like a little puppy dog.
I can't stand it.
I've flipped flopped on Britney...I like her NOW and see her going far if not to the end. She's in a great position. I DID NOT like her at all when Monet was around.

August 2, 2010 at 6:47 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Thanks StephanieWC & Stephanie :)

I know there are a couple thousand people on at the moment, but everyone's so darn quiet!

Thank you for speakin' up!

I think I'll keep going til about 11pm EDT... later if it's hopping.

August 2, 2010 at 6:48 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

I dont think she can get there, but she might make ragan and Brit think "why are the guys campaigning so hard for Hayden?'

August 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM  
Blogger 3maybe1more said...

Wow - I wasn't expecting or thinking along these lines at all. Kristen can stay if she can get Brendon. Of course she would need Ragan and Britney as well (and Kathy is already a given). I think getting Brendon is a long shot today, but crazier things have happened!!

August 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Did they have Spaghetti for dinner in the house? If they did thats funny because I made the same thing lol.

Your welcome Carolyn ;-)

August 2, 2010 at 6:53 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

NOt only can you tell how many, you can see who is on! OMG!! Big Sister is watchin us . . .


August 2, 2010 at 6:53 PM  
Blogger tina said...

Hi Carolyn and fellow addicts,

I dont comment much, i hate typing, lol but I sure could talk your ear off.

We would never leave you alone and take the chance that you would be cornered with Brendon and Rachel.

August 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Sparks! :)

Hi Therese! :)

I'm right there on the Britney love. She's been growing on me steadily since her siamese twin was extracted.

I also think she's playing the smartest game right now.. with the exception of running to tell too many people what Rachel had sad to her that made her change her mind... and right after agreeing to be in an alliance with Rachel & Brendon.

August 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

"Kiss of Death"! LOL...
Aint it the truth tho? I'm surprised nobody has thought of it but you Caro!
Stephanie...sinkers! tee hee..love it, but i dont think Racheal wanted to be the only girl...she badly wanted an alliance with H/K and is fiercly angry that they "backstabbed" them.
Lisa, I think she has tried that and it didnt work.
MG, I agree, its out now..so why bother keeping up the lie?

August 2, 2010 at 6:55 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Sparks; I agree, I couldn't stand her either when Monet was in the house. Now that Brit has had a taste of the power I think she is finally going to start playing the game and use her brain and she might get far now. It seems that a lot of the Brigade like her and if she could get in with them then she really has a shot. Thats just how I see it anyway :)

August 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

I think she has s chance, but its gonna take Ragan and Brit thinking for themselves and not the Clown Brigade.
And Kristen is gonna have to throw hayden under the bus to Ra-den. He's doin it to her.

August 2, 2010 at 6:57 PM  
Blogger tina said...

my favs are in no particular order..


I didnt like brittany until recently. With all the heat on the couples it is making the gane a breeze for the above people.

I think Ragan just likes everyone and gives his 2 cents. i havent heard much of him wanting certain people to leave but of course i dont have the feeds either.

August 2, 2010 at 6:58 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Johnny - Hayden has 3 guaranteed votes in the Brigade, and they don't need to campaign for him at all. It's a given. Then Brendon...

wham bam, adios maam.

August 2, 2010 at 6:59 PM  
Blogger MG said...

Hey Carolyn,
Even if it's not hopping please stay awhile. I'm on all day and most of the night.

Sometimes I just don't comment.

That's why I made the extra comment to Genie. Today was not a picnic for her. Nothing too nasty, just not the regular "BBdish friendly" comments.

And, the biggest reason most of us are here is because we like the friendly, non-confrontational atmosphere at BBDish and the various people we have gotten to know and love over the years.

Off my soapbox...

August 2, 2010 at 7:00 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

So true Carolyn, and you know that Rachel and Brandon will take Kris out so thats 5 voting out Kris. Say goodbye Kris.....

August 2, 2010 at 7:01 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

I'm here, MG, and I'm hangin! :) THanks. She let me know...

August 2, 2010 at 7:03 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...


I know that. 3 votes ain't 4. If Ragan and Brit go to their Brigade keepers about who to keep, Matt and En-ane will campaign to them for Hayden.

August 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Stephanie - yup!

Hi Tina :) I'm so glad you decided to comment tonight. :)
You ought to checkout the feeds...

Hi Wendy2! :) Glad you liked that. :) It's such the truth.. Officer CockBlock, in a long black cloak.

Hi 3maybe1more! :) stranger things have happened, but this is a BIG longshot!

August 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM  
Blogger Kristin said...

I personally was a Brit/Monet and Ragan fan at the start of the season, once monet left, I never could stand Rachel...I miss her and Brit's banter but Britney keeps me entertained with her quick one liners. All in good humor.

Anyway as far as gameplay now...I admire Kristen for continuing to play the game and not losing hope....I just think as the time goes on she may waver and give up and that pretty much is going to seal the deal. Hayden stays, Kristen goes sadly.

August 2, 2010 at 7:06 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Kristin :)

August 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

I'm here...I can stay a while..if you'll have me...;)

August 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

wendy2 :) always!

August 2, 2010 at 7:09 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

I don't have live feed yet. Hows the pool Tourny goin so far Carolyn? ( I will have Live Feed Wed. I can't wait hehe)

August 2, 2010 at 7:12 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

I'd like to thank you Caro for wading through all the "inane" chatter and getting to the good bits...lol.
(I just HAD to use that, I couldnt stop myself..lol)

August 2, 2010 at 7:13 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Stephanie :) It's a nightly affair, the pool tourney.. I just hopped over to it.

August 2, 2010 at 7:13 PM  
Blogger Glo said...

So I wonder how any of the other house guest would act if for most of their stay in the BB house you were on the block or people were gunning for you and if you didn’t win it would be your last days in the house. You saw what happen to Brittney she fell apart. Andrew went nuts, Kathy well, she started telling everyone how bad her life was, and she was pretty pitiful. I think Rachel for the most part has been acting pretty good, considering? Everyone hates her and Brendon. Which gets me to my point, I’ am sick of everyone just trashing them, they sit there and tear them apart. They gang up on them all at once, when ever there is a bus driving by they throw their names under it. Give me a break. Do any of these houseguest have their own brains? They don’t even act like adults, come on, if I have to hear any more Brendon bashing about is cooking, I will hit my screen. They are so mean. I know this is a game, and lying is a big part of it, but these people are downright two faced. I can’t wait to see one of them fighting for their life’s for a couple of weeks and see how friendly they are going to be to each other. When Rachel was on the block she didn’t sit in a corner and cry as much as Kristen puts a spin on it Rachel really does see thru her and Kathy, they don’t like her, so why should she keep them around?

August 2, 2010 at 7:17 PM  
Blogger SpArKs said...

Carolyn: I do agree...I didn't like that Brit change it up to suit her needs...She really is playing all sides and doing really well at it...could come back and bite her in the butt. She would never put Rachel on a petastal to anyone else in the house.

August 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

If there is frustration on the Dish I think it has to do with this stubborn frustrating season.

Brit is the only one thinking out of the box and tryibg to wheel and deal. Everyone else has been stuck in a holding pattern for three weeks now.

August 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM  
Blogger 3maybe1more said...

I agree, it is a long shot. I think I have a better chance of winning the lottery at this point. I am in no way a Kristin fan BUT I like a good game - and her staying would make a good game. I think at this point the only way she could stay would be to out the Brigade. Of course, she would need to know about the Brigade to make that happen!

If she stays, I will be kicking my own butt for a long time for not buying a lottery ticket! lol

August 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

Im listening to Kristen and Brittany and she was talking about how the house votes together..that drives me nuts! it was much more fun when the house was split out in the open.

August 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

Do you think Kristen will go "out with a bang? hmmmmm

August 2, 2010 at 7:20 PM  
Blogger katieblue said...

Hi Carolyn and Everyone!

I asked this earlier but it was pretty hectic..
About the money Rachel won-she can bargain with it right? So was it the gold bars like April got in BB10?

August 2, 2010 at 7:22 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

and another thing...(lol), if I have to listen to Kristen say one more time that Racheals logic doesnt make any sense..I'll throw something at the screen..well maybe not that..but I'll yell at it that "IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE"

August 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Hello BB Buddies!!

WOWZERS did I ever miss a lot this weekend! It was a long weekend here and a really good friend of mine got married so I've been busy, busy, busy!

From the minimal catching up I've done, I'm glad to see Kristen is at least gonna fight a little instead to laying down in defeat!!

My sweetie flies off the base today and has some decompression and then comes home! 7 more days ☺

Hope everyone had a great weekend and a good Monday.

Have to go read some more.....

August 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

MamaNutt! :) Absolutely! http://bit.ly/BBDishMobile :)

Wendy2 - LOL. That's what I texted Genie while I was at the gym.. "are they procreating yet?"

Sparks :) The more I'm liking Britney, the more I find myself hoping it doesn't bit her in the butt, but, things do have a way of traveling in that house.

Johnny - feel free to message me on fb.

3maybe1more - i vote we all buy lottery tix this week. ;)

Glo - I hear ya. They're playing hard, and while Rachel's social game is lacking in some respects, them being the constant target is allowing the rest of the house to slide slide slide...

August 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM  
Blogger SpArKs said...

@Stephanie - the live feeds are AWESOME! Sucks up my bandwith but its sooooo worth it. Changes the whole way you look at BB. But I still love to watch the show. Come to think of it I can't stand waiting from Sun night to Wed night. Even if I know everthing that's going on AND have the feeds.

August 2, 2010 at 7:26 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

WOW, Matt really SUCKS at pool..lol

August 2, 2010 at 7:27 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Katie Blue! :) That sounds about right.. We don't actually know for certain yet, but from what we understand, she can use it to make deals that stick.

Wendy2 - yup! When does getting someone out who's definitely coming for you not make sense??

Hi JulieB!! :) Welcome back, honey! :) We missed you!

August 2, 2010 at 7:27 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

Okay - so I just rewatched the episode last Thursday, and I have some more specific feelings about this season. (It is about time! This season has [so far] moved in slow motion.)

First, unlike many commentators have mentioned, I thinking the casting this season is BRILLIANT! Especially compared to last season freaks and geeks cast. Don't get me wrong; I myself would be considered "offbeat" at best, but last seasons' cast was over the top - only exacerbated by the addition by bringing in Jessie from an even more f-ed up season.

I like that this years' cast has some restraint and common sense. Sure, we all like some drama, but some of the people in past seasons were just psycho. Do I need to name names? Okay I will; just from LAST season: Jessie, for one (major douchebag), also Gnatalie, Chima, Lydia, Ronnie and Russell.

This year's cast is overwhelmingly intelligent, calm and reasoned. Sure, not as excited to watch day to day, but FAR more insightful and interesting to watch.

Okay - all that said, There are some off-kilter thinkers - as exemplified by Andrew's speech on eviction night. Rachel and Brendon are also notable for their delusional thinking; though some of that can be excused by them being the target from week one.

I LOVE that there are some smart (and knowledgeable) players, and a nice mix of ignorant (and I mean that in the true definition of the word) players like Hayden. I really like that there are none of the crazy women that we have been exposed to in past seasons. (Okay Rachel and especially Kathy can be seen as marginal in that regard.)

Okay - now for some observations:

1) Brendon is a controlling egomaniac who obviously thinks he is the smartest person in the house, let alone Southern California. His redeeming quality is that he is eye candy for many; and fun to watch because he IS so delusional about his ability to "teach" others.

2) Enzo (and to a lesser degree Lane) is homophobic. I LOVE that his eyes well up when he thinks about his wife and child; but he has spewed some vile comments in the live feeds regarding Ragan.

3) Rachel. Sweet, sweet Rachel. She is so nice at times, (if you can overlook the laugh) but then she really loses me when she gets catty and attacks the same people that she needs later in the game. [Rachel is the one person in the cast that would fit easily in any other season.]

4) Britney - my new favorite player! Early in the season Brit was being a major bitch with Monet; commenting on everyone's shortcomings. Even then I could see the sarcastic sense of humor and biting wit. She is funny, smart and I just think she is playing a great game. I would have loved to see her use the Veto, just to stir things up, but she is one smart cookie.

Lastly - Andrew. What and idiot! That's all :)

August 2, 2010 at 7:28 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

off topic.. i turned on abc at about 9:55pm - and yyaaaayyy, allie picked the guy i wanted her to pick from the moment he said hello.

August 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM  
Blogger katieblue said...

ok tks Carolyn.

I did the same thing and was happy as well!!

August 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Kevin - You had me til the last line. I really liked Andrew... While he definitely blundered in that PoV speech, and that was his downfall, I would never call him an idiot.

Quite the contrary, I thought his game play was excellent up until that point... most notably in the way he kept everyone's secrets to himself for later usage..

Unfortunately, he didn't use them in a way that could actually help him.

August 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Kevin - it's published. no need to keep sending it... :)

August 2, 2010 at 7:35 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

Ok first i'll have to get a fb

August 2, 2010 at 7:38 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

I really do not understand why Hayden and Kristen are still lying about their relationship. I love Britney now that Monet is gone.Would love to see her win HOH Thursday.

August 2, 2010 at 7:38 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Carolyn don't say who she picked I am on the West coast and it's about to come on.

Kevin I agree with you on all points but Andrew. He did play a good game until the end when he blew up. He had great info on everyone but didn't know when to use it to save himself.

August 2, 2010 at 7:42 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

There should be camera directly above the pool table. They do that when you watch pool tournaments on tv.

August 2, 2010 at 7:43 PM  
Blogger SpArKs said...

lol kathy really has no clue about how bb is played. Like I dont get it. How can you be on BB and not know how a double eviction works.

August 2, 2010 at 7:44 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Johnny5 - Really??? There's a guy on there I've thought was you for YEARS now! too funny.

MI Man :) Good idea!

August 2, 2010 at 7:45 PM  
Blogger tina said...

that was right on kevin except for andrew, who i liked.

I think the only problem andrew had was what his speeches were.

He should have used the info he had as a blackmail or bribe to keep quiet and that may have saved him.

I just dont understand Matt and Ragan, where do they stand? or is it anybodies guess.

August 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Tina, i think it's anybody's guess. The Brigade is the only alliance that hasn't been found out and they haven't done much. Matt screwed up the first chance they had to get Rachel and Brandon out.

August 2, 2010 at 7:48 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Thanks for hanging out tonight Carolyn. I know you're going pumpkin soon so...Good Night, Sleep Well.

Night Dishers

August 2, 2010 at 7:51 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

I am not so sure Kristen can convince people she is an "asset" to anyone. Oh, Thursday is so far away. I really miss Tuesday show nights,too.

August 2, 2010 at 7:52 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

:) G'nite Michigan Man :) Sleep tight!

LisaM - I miss Tuesday Show Nights too!!!!

August 2, 2010 at 7:53 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Hi Carolyn! Hi all!

I miss Tuesday shows too.

I hope they don't keep Survivor on Wednesday. My Thursday schedule will be messed up. lol

August 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

MIchelle - Ditto re Survivor.. though they do tend to have weird premiere nights for that one quite often. I'll never see it "live" if it's on wednesdays... Scrabble night. :)

August 2, 2010 at 7:59 PM  
Blogger wendy2 said...

Getting late here in Ohio..night all.

August 2, 2010 at 8:00 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

First - Carolyn - sorry about the multiple attempts at posting; I kept getting error messages and retrying.

Okay, so I was a bit harsh about Andrew; and I did not cite any specific examples to represent my point of view. Let me try again:

Andrew was in over his head and such a terrible liar. In his POV speech he could not even keep a straight face when he said he was coming after Brendon and Rachel. The smile that flashed on his face told volumes.

I liked Andrew in his exit speech with Julie (watch the long version from the Today show) but he clearly could not function well in the game. Starting with his social awkwardness and followed up by his total lack of any ability to speak coherently when under pressure - he was destined to be sent out before the jury house.

Better? :)

August 2, 2010 at 8:00 PM  
Blogger Patty said...

good evening everyone :) It is late but I thought I would jump on and catch up a bit and say good night to you all. gotta get my feed fix tonight as I will not have them after tomorrow :( I hope to get them back in a week or two though. I know where I will be spending a lot more of my time until I do though, lol. Thanks again Carolyn, Genie and Lessa, you guys are awesome :)

Good night Dishers! Hope you all have happy dreams!!

August 2, 2010 at 8:00 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Gnite Wendy2! :) Sleep tite!

August 2, 2010 at 8:05 PM  
Blogger Patty said...

Michelle in Indiana

Re Survivor, not sure what they are planning for the night it will be on. I saw a commercial today that said that the one show Big Bang Theory is moving to Thursday nights. Maybe they are going to mess with the schedules this year :( I sure hope not because BB not being on Tuesdays this summer has all ready messed me up, lol.

August 2, 2010 at 8:05 PM  
Blogger Rubyrooo said...

Good Evening Carolyn and Dishers!

August 2, 2010 at 8:06 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

G'nite Patty :) Sweet dreams! :)

Kevin.. better.. supporting your opinion is always key with me. ;)

August 2, 2010 at 8:07 PM  
Blogger 3maybe1more said...

Andrew was and still is my favorite HG. His game was over with his POV speech. And he should have used his eviction info as blackmail for the others to stay in the house. Although, nobody believed him anyway. It will be funny when they find out that Kristen & Hayden aren't brother and sister.

I agree that Rachel is the only one that would have fit in with any other cast. Maybe Kristen too. And, to a certain extent, Britney.

I have been liking Britney more and more since Monet left.

However, I may be in the minority but I am rooting for Brendon and Rachel. Not their showmance but their game. I like the underdog and with not a lot of other game play going on, I find myself rooting for Brendon and Rachel every competition. The Brigade has yet to make a big power move. I guess Andrew could be seen as a mini power move since he was on Brendon and Rachel's side - but that wasn't their doing, it was his own.

I wish Matt would talk to the feeds like Ragan has. I would love to know what is going on in his head.

August 2, 2010 at 8:07 PM  
Blogger RedRhonda said...

Evening All! Count me in missing the Tuesday show, just kind of seems jammed together and not spread apart enough.

Have just one comment about the Brigade that a lot of people seem to not like so much and think is such a joke. They may be goofy and over confident, etc., but they still have been keeping it under wraps. No one else thinks that there is another big alliance in that house and I really have to give it to them for that, they are playing it well for now.

I too think Britney is doing well. Also, she is hilarious and can pull off the casual talk when she needs to change fast.

August 2, 2010 at 8:07 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hey RedRhonda :) Great points!!

3Maybe1More :) ::nodding my head vigorously:::

Hi RubyRoooooooooo!!! :)

August 2, 2010 at 8:11 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

`nope carolyn

dish is my one social networking vice. It's scary that there's a Johhny5 impersonator out there's though

August 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

G'night Carolyn! G'night dishers. I may be back to check on Lessa's updates.

August 2, 2010 at 8:13 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...


my frustration with brigade has more to do with the other HG. Its so Obvious! There is no way in hell if I'm in there I'm gonna miss that.

August 2, 2010 at 8:15 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Carolyn said: I'll never see it "live" if it's on wednesdays... Scrabble night. :)

Really, are we to believe you have a scrabble night? Now maybe strip scrabble . . . have no idea how that would work . . .

August 2, 2010 at 8:16 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Johnny5 - too funny!

LisaM :) G'night! :)

Stephanie - Oh yeah, I'm a scrabble geek! I play in tournaments...

August 2, 2010 at 8:18 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Ok Dishers and Carolyn I am off to watch Allie. I will be back later tonight. Goodnight to all who won't be here when I get back (((hugs)))

August 2, 2010 at 8:21 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

The screen cap of Lane Lassoing (?) Britney . . . priceless . . . I wonder if Nick would think so . . . the wrestling . . . hmmmmmmm I think in the South that is considered fore play . . . I'm just saying . . .

August 2, 2010 at 8:22 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Good night, Stephanie :)

Stephanie from the WC - I love that screencap! :)

August 2, 2010 at 8:24 PM  
Blogger Amanda said...

totally off topic but curious..anyone know why bb takes hg's clothes?? just heard brit say they took her razorback shirt and i've heard some other hg say they had clothes taken by bb and was curious.

August 2, 2010 at 8:27 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

I said it first nite of the feeds. Lane doesn't look at her as a little sister, fiance or not.

August 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Scrabble Geek and Carolyn don't seem to belong in the same sentance!!

August 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

It makes me want to wrassle . . . don't really want to be lassoed(?) . . . but wrassling, that sounds like fun . . .

August 2, 2010 at 8:35 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Amanda :) I don't know.

Stephanie - lol.. but it's true! ;)

Johnny5 - I think he's resigned to it now.

August 2, 2010 at 8:36 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

The Bad Penny finally turned up again.

How's everyone durrin'?

I may or may not get this in before Caro goes horizontal. I know I'm cutting it close. I had to read this Blog before I got going. Next will be all the comments, but I had to refer back to a comment from the last Blog Comments.

MG said...
Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you!!

I love eating bear, of course I'm not talking about the wild animal. Bear in gay world has a different meaning.

Danny won 3rd prize in some contest he entered for some food thing I have never heard of. It was a t-shirt. "Enjoy Bear Naked". The 'E' in Bear is a stylized E to look like maybe a bear paw swipe.

I'm going to love wearing it. The gay connotation is going to be so much fun. ;)


August 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

GayTor - You made it in just under the bell! ;) I've been about to say goodnight all for the past 39 minutes.


August 2, 2010 at 8:39 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Yes it is true about Carolyn being a Scrabble Geek. I've seen the pics of the game boards she has posted on Twit Pics. She reads the dictionary in her sleep I think.


August 2, 2010 at 8:39 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

YaY for under the wire. Then I have a bit to catch up on before "Late Night with Lessa". Not that I want to see you go; I've missed a whole day, but seems like not much of one. I still hope for something to happen to cause some weave pulling or something. Eyelash pulling would be even better, I wonder how much Kathy pays for those implants.

I'd love to do that. False lashes can get expensive, especially in the summer when sometimes I get one wearing because it gets so hot the sweat soaks them and they fall off in mid-show. That's happened to me the last 4 shows I've done. When you wear those huge DQ lashes, and lose one, it's VERY obvious.


August 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...


You're never resigned to "it"

August 2, 2010 at 8:45 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

GayTor - the morning was *nuts* - but i think you were here for that...

Johnny - Ahh.. is that why my platonic guy friends *still* call me even when they have significant others?

August 2, 2010 at 8:47 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

I like the lassoing best. Wrasslin' is fun to, but I was a Boy Scout. I know rope tying.

Hmmm. Where's Syn?


August 2, 2010 at 8:49 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

I definitely look at Carolyn as a little sister, but I'd still tie her up. And LEAVE. Call someone else to do the rest of the job. :-p


August 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

exactly, there's a married dealer were I play cards. She says go I'm gone!

August 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM  
Blogger HighHorse said...

I wanted to see Lane and Brit's cute wrestling but can't find it when I go to flashback. :(

Anyone else secretly wish Brit didn't have a fiance? I sometimes think Lane has a crush on her.

August 2, 2010 at 8:54 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

"you know its sad but true"
-random metallica lyrics

August 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

GayTor - I have a nominee for part 2. ;p~

Johnny - it's all becoming clear now.. :)

August 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Yes, I was here all morning and a while after PoV Ceremony. So I got all that. Then ZzzZzz for me. a LONG one. This heat is about to put me into an early grave. Maybe not early enough for some... (Syn :-p~)

Still 103° THI as I type. Not sure how far it actually went today. Last I checked before I went Zzzz, I was going to call my step-mom in central AR, I looked up her zipcode on WeatherBug and she was at 117°. I worry about her if course. She's 79 and not in great health (a stroke 2 years ago) so I worry because I know she doesn't use her AC as much as she should.

Make me stop and call her in the morning please.


August 2, 2010 at 8:56 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

GayTor - will do. :)

HighHorse - it was quick... I was lucky to have caught the cap.

August 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Carolyn, and I know just who you would want me to call to. But does he get kinky? PHAHAHA!


August 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is everyone doing tonight?

August 2, 2010 at 8:57 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Pamela!!!! :)

Happy Birthday to youuuu!!
Happy Birthday to Youuu!!
Happy Birthday, dear Pamela!!!
♫♫Happy Birthday to YOUUUUU!!! ♫♫

August 2, 2010 at 8:59 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

...it's midnight on the east coast. ;)

August 2, 2010 at 8:59 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Johnny 5 - I am always quoting Metallica songs!

Especially when they all go 'Off to Never Never Land'!!

Give me Fuel Give Me Fire Give Me That which I desire . . .

On casual Friday's I wear my Metallica t-shirts to work . . .

August 2, 2010 at 9:00 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

goodnite Carolyn and everybody

August 2, 2010 at 9:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it, thank you Carolyn...my first birthday wish..

August 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Yes??? What is your first birthday wish, Pamela?

Gnite, Johnny! :)

August 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

This season needs to be renamed.

"Everyone Loves Regan"


August 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Stephanie & JOhnny5 -

I'm more likely to quote Nine Inch Nails...

One song in particular. ;p~

Then again, I'm even *more* likely to quote James Taylor, Elton, Carole King and the like...

August 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

My birthday is Friday - and it just happens to be my Friday off!

I am gonna get my hair did!

August 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM  
Blogger HighHorse said...

It must have been real fast, Carolyn because I sure can't see it at the stated time. Maybe I ought to wear my reading glasses. :( Good job on the cute cap.

August 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A birthday wish..hmmm, has to be something to do with BB, not sure yet

August 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

StephanieWC :) Happy Almost Birthday!!

GayTor - LOVE it! Love him! Love YOU!

August 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Thanks, High Horse :)

Pamela - Well let us know... :)

August 2, 2010 at 9:05 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Slip Knot - I put my fingers into my eyessssssssssssssss -

I could so go on lyrics all night long but I know you are going to thud soon.

Was that rAgan doing the Beaker voice from Sesame Street?

August 2, 2010 at 9:06 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Flashback Find

Ragan on Cam 3 at 9pm... Very funny! :)

Check it out on the flashback area of the live feeds
! :)

August 2, 2010 at 9:06 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Carolyn, I never took you for a NIN fan. I learn something new every day. I like some of their songs too.

But I'm more likely to break into a showtune. Imagine that.

I know you're about to turn into a pumpkin any minute now, so I'm going to say Sweet Dreams! (are Made of This".)


August 2, 2010 at 9:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Birthday Stephanie..

August 2, 2010 at 9:07 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

GayTor - It's their song "Closer" that I *Love*

You're very right...

I'm a pumpkin!

August 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Can you imagine Ragan and Britney getting their own shows after BB . . . I would so watch . . .

August 2, 2010 at 9:09 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Who am I to disagree . . . Travel the world and the seven seas, everybody searching for somethin . . .

Night our sweet Pumpkin!

August 2, 2010 at 9:11 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Stephanie - ditto!


I'm so *wide* awake & giggling at Ragan & Britney on Cam 3, but I've got to hit the sack, so I can get up at 5:30am Eastern and get to work on the Overnight... :)

Good Night, Sweet Dishers!!

August 2, 2010 at 9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good night and sweet dreams Carolyn

August 2, 2010 at 9:13 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...


August 2, 2010 at 9:15 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Long Lava Bubbles, but not on BBAD. Regan was just called to DR, but he wasn't the focus on BBAD. As he came in from the BY, someone asked if he was in trouble. He didn't know what he did, but he looked nervous.

Just an FYI. If anyone caught something maybe they can fill in the blanks.


August 2, 2010 at 9:29 PM  
Blogger sparklemotion said...

Hi everyone! I've commented on here one time under a different account but I can't get it to work again :( So let's say I'm a first time commenter? Long time reader!

Kristen is annoying me so badly. She weirdly reminds me of LC from The Hills, in that blandly good looking and mopey kind of way. Same eye makeup, too.

But I find her whole "I tell the TRUTH!" soapbox hilarious. Except for that secret showmance thing. Also, it's really gross she just said a guy should snatch her up, take her, and use her. I get what she meant, but ew. And she's the strongest girl in the house? With Rachel with two HOH's and Britney with two POVs? Strong how?

August 2, 2010 at 9:56 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

I know now for sure what Rachel's job is in Vegas. And I call BS on the $250,000 dollar 6 liter bottle of Cristal. They are around $25,000.

August 2, 2010 at 10:18 PM  

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