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Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Big Brother 12: Tuesday Afternoon, Aug. 17th

Good afternoon, BB Lovers. After a rather quiet morning on the live feeds, the HGs suddenly came to life around 12:30pm BBT, with Ragan bemoaning his slop lot in life, and Hayden & Lane having a strategy session in the Cabana Room beginning at 12:45pm BBT.

For all the details on the morning, please check out Genie's stellar morning post: Early Tuesday Mattinations

As I tune in, Hayden's telling Lane that the only people the 2 of them have a chance again in a final 2 scenario is each other, Kathy or Brendon... Lane decides that Hayden must win HoH this week and put up Ragan and Britney. Hayden says that'll probably lose him their jury votes, and at that moment, Britney's spidey senses send her into the room to join them.

Convinced that this coming week will be a double eviction, Britney's very concerned about Brendon winning PoV, since it will be physical, staying in the house, winning the following HoH and coming after her and Ragan. Ragan joins them in the Cabana Room, just as Britney's finishing her thought. Hayden assures Britney that they want Brendon out as bad as she does...

***not so much.

After a few moments of silence, Ragan leaves.

12:55pm BBT
Cabana Room

Britney: What were y'all game talking about?
Hayden: Pretty much the same thing.. Once Brendon's gone, then what?
Britney: Probably everybody has a different agenda for that.
BB: HGs, this is a lockdown. Please go outside and close the sliding glass door.

Britney gets up to get her swimsuit on. Lane does, as well. Hayden's already in his.

Enzo: You been sleepin' too, the whole time?
Lane: mm.. a lil bit.
***Actually, as a matter of fact, Hayden and I were just discussing your ultimate demise, but I wont bore you with the details...

Slowly, they all make their way outside...
It's a very odd week as far as campaigning goes, since both nominees know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that they are safe. Matt is humoring Ragan, with his heroic efforts and constant advice to make sure Matt stays, but that's about all...

Most of the campaigning that's going on actually has to do with next week, in the latest round of Brendon character assassination. Ragan and Matt have made sure everyone knows that Brendon made deals with both of them, and broke them, so he's clearly a low life who cannot be trusted.

Kathy, having received this information and accepting it as gospel, has made it her duty to spread the word to all who will listen. Thinking it will raise her standing with others, Kathy also makes sure to be as nasty as possible to Brendon behind his back, and sweet as pie with him.

The truth: Brendon offered both of them deals, and both of them responded not in kind. Both Ragan and Matt intentionally did not make deals with Brendon guaranteeing him his safety in the following week. They thought their word choices were designed to fool Brendon into thinking whatever they wanted, but such was not the case, and he proceeded accordingly.

OK.. moving right along...

1pm finds our HGs on a lockdown outside.
  • Matt's in the pool.
  • Ragan, Britney & Hayden are on chaise lounges adjacent to the pool.
  • Kathy, Brendon, Enzo, Lane are on the couch. Conversation is stilted at best.
1:18pm BBT
Brendon decides to go lay down on the pool deck, right next to where Matt is in the pool. Or so the angle would suggest...
Here's the wider angle... As you can see, Matt's head is not growing out of Brendon's back.

1:38pm BBT
Couch - Lane, Kathy and a sleeping (or silent) Enzo

Kathy: We can feed the fish twice a day now. The bags are labeled am and pm.
Lane: They're more fun to watch when they're hungry. They attack each other.
Kathy: Kinda like us.
Lane: Yeah...

Talk turns to Brendon and his coming demise. Lane's feeding Kathy what he believes she wants to hear... After a wee bit of bashing...

Lane: I'm telling you, there's no friggin way he's gonna win PoV. I'll burn my leg off first.
Kathy: hahaha

Talk turns to the Have Nots. Lane believes next week ought to be the end of it. Kathy goes on about how difficult it is for the people on slop. Lane says your body also needs recovery time...

Lane: All I know is, this week, we all have to fight like our lives are on the line. Do not leave until you have blood gushing. I wonder if they're doing just maintenance on cameras, or what's goin' on.
BB: Ragan, please put on your microphone..

***I go to check on Ragan, and he's not talking to anyone.

***Skippy, a 2 shot of Lane & Kathy would be lovely, as they're the ones talking... oh, nevermind. Now, Lane's closing his eyes so he can stop chatting with Kathy.

1:48pm BBT
Oh, the excitement...

1:53pm BBT
BB: Houseguests, the lockdown is over. You are now free to move about the house.

Britney, Lane, Kathy and Ragan head inside to the kitchen. Matt & Hayden stay put outside. Matt checks in with Hayden about the votes. Hayden says it's still the same.

1:55pm BBT
Britney comes back to the pool and asks what they're talking about. Matt lies and tells her "pretzels," and he says it's become a controversy outside the house.

Britney goes on about how unfair it is that she was allowed back in the house at all, and allowed to communicate with Brendon via pretzels, when all of them have given up their lives for 3 months, their jobs in a down economy, etc...

Matt's really pushing the notion that production really blew it on this one. He keeps getting warnings to not talk about production, until ultimately they give up and send us to bubbles.

***But he's not complaining about the power that will save him this week.

2:09pm BBT
Pool area
Lane, Britney, Hayden & Matt

They're complaining about how ineffective the pool vacuum is, and Britney gives her impression of her pool roomba at home...

2:11pm BBT
Chatter around the pool turns to college football season.. then flights home. Lane wonders if he, Britney and Kathy will all be on the same flight home from Vegas...

Meanwhile, in the kitchen, Brendon's cleaning up after everyone and preparing them food.

Horrible beast.

Back to the pool, Britney's bopping around in the innertube, Matt's dangling his feet in, Hayden's in a chaise lounge. The conversation has turned to video games... Wii Sports, etc... Britney's hungry.

Brendon, Kathy

Brendon fixes Kathy some tea. She thanks him. Then he goes back to doing the dishes.

She asks if he'll be doing all of them, and he says no, just the ones he used. Both of them have already discussed on a few occasions how tired they are of no one else pitching in. Kathy heads back outside.

2:28pm BBT
Gripey McGriperson and company..
Cams 1/2

Britney: What's Enzo the new Brendon? He comes out here and everyone leaves? You're the new Brendon, Enzo.
Enzo: This days sucks.
Britney: Especially if you're a have not.
Enzo: Let us compete for nothin'.
Britney: Exactly. Just set something up and let us play.
Enzo: When are we getting our grill? Look at that bench set. It's so bootleg.
Britney: You know it's been here since season one.
Enzo: Like f'in Dr Will (**may his name be for a blessing) did something on that.

Enzo starts talking about "a power," then asks Matt directly if he has one. Matt says no, and that he was hoping Enzo had one.

Enzo: If I had the power, would you want me to use it?
Matt: That would be good.
Enzo: Ya think someone's gonna have a power this year? They gonna bring the coup de f'in tata back again?
Britney: I don't think so, because they had the saboteur.
Enzo: There could still be the long lost friends... C'mon.. I feel like i should just go lay down. That's all you can do.

Talk turns to the jury house... Inevitable Rachel bashing ensues... briefly, then they move on to the stipulation they not talk game with each other in the jury house... then...

Enzo: What could possibly sway my vote? I mean the outside world.. Like if I was to talk to my family... Just how's the baby? How's everybody.
Britney: Game's the last thing I wanna talk about if I get to talk to family..
Enzo: I wanna see my wife. I want her to come here...
Britney: How much you think your daughter weighs now?
Enzo: She's gotta be like 30 pounds.
Britney: How old is she?
Enzo: 10 months. She's gotta be crawlin.. talkin... She said "dada" right before I left.. 1st word.

2:40pm BBT
Cam 1 flips to Kathy, Brendon and Hayden on the couch, chattering on about eggs...

This leads to a conversation, started by Hayden about the issues of sustainability with meat eating. Then on to vegetarianism... and the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian. Kathy goes inside to see about the pizza...

2:45pm BBT
Matt & Ragan
Cams 3/4

They're waiting to talk until Kathy leaves the general area. Rgan gives up and goes to use the bathroom. When he returns, Brendon and Hayden are in the kitchen, so he asks Matt to go outside with him.

2:49pm BBT
Backyard couch
Cam 3/4

Matt: This pretzel thing has me fuming.
Ragan: I just did a DR about it.
Matt: Did they try to justify it to you?
Ragan: Pretty much.

**You guessed it. Bubbles.

Matt: The next veto? The upcoming one?
Ragan: Yeah, and once again, it's a foregone conclusion.
Matt: I'm curious to see what it'll be, even if I'm watching it on DVD.

Brendon, Hayden & Kathy come out and have a seat on the couch.. Hayden and Ragan have fun calling eachother GayGan and Gayden. Brendon engages Kathy in conversation.

Brendon: So will you have to go through retraining when you go home?
Ragan: (snickers)
Kathy: I might. Target practice. I'll just put the saboteur's picture up there.

Talk turns to smoking. Things they rolled up and smoked as kids. Then on to Kathy's smoking. Hayden says whenever he sees someone with a cigarette or chewing tobacco, he tells them to quit. Hayden tells a story about one time when he was in Vegas, beyond drunk, and he asked a girl for a drag off a cigarette she'd just lit, she gave it to him, and he threw it down...

BB: Houseguests, this is a lockdown.. Please go inside and close the sliding glass door.

In they go.

Dining Area - Hayden, Lane, Enzo, Kathy

Hayden: Today's Tuesday? We could be locked in 'til Thursday.
Brendon: Ya think?
Hayden: Yeah.. Once they locked us in from Tuesday night...
Kathy: Or are they just gonna move the furniture around?
Hayden: Hopefully it's just the furniture.
Kathy: Maybe they just want us to take a nap. That'll be the day.

2:59pm BBT
I go to check on Ragan in the Have Not Room, but he's quiet...

Then Britney walks in. Nap Time for the Have Nots.

3:12pm BBT
Cabana Room
Cams 3/4

Matt's selling the idea that the pretzels and production screwed him and them for the week. Their disgusted that Rachel wears the pants, even from the jury house.

Enzo: We have to be aware that BB listens to every thing we say. We need to f'in flip on them.
Matt: That's what I'm sayin'.


Hayden: Ya know what I mean?
Matt: All it takes is 2 minutes.
Enzo: This guy thinks he's the Lone f'in Ranger..

Brendon Bashing ensues...

Enzo: He's a f'ing.. I gotta new name for him, I'm gonna say in the DR. He's number 3. 'Cause he's number 3 on the evolution charts.
Hayden: Today he was saying, "When I used to squat 500 pounds..."
Enzo: He's got the weirdest body I've ever seen. There's like no muscle. It's like he had a c-section.
Matt: He disgusts me.
Enzo: What's worse is that one of you is probably gonna be hanging out with both of them for a week.
Matt: Better happen. I love that he's calling us cowards too. When we say it, it's true.
Enzo: The guy got nobody. He's upstairs by himself, and he wanted to leave. We kept him. I'd be pissed off too.

Then they start ripping on Britney...
Hayden: Let's go Lane!! Come on Hayden...
Enzo: Oh my God.. all white and pale and sh*t.. Tan your face, yo! Your whole body's tan, except your f'in face.


Enzo: I wonder if the saboteur knows what's going on in the outside world... Score updates? I'd be like, sign me up, yo.
Matt: That's all you'd need? Score updates.
Enzo: There is no saboteur, bro. It's either BB or it's Rachel. But there's gonna be a competition about all those things. When was it? Day 44? I know those motherf'ers by heart.. I'm tellin you, it's gonna be like, we're gonna have to find stuff and put it in order.
Lane: What if it still is a game changing...
Enzo: That could be it. The competition that's done on that night? With all the sayings.. Could be the game changer.

3:24pm BBT - Bubbles...

3:30pm BBT - Feeds are back.

Cabana -
Matt & Hayden
Hayden: So you talked to BB about the pretzels and they basically just said, whoops?
Matt: Yeah. Horrible excuses. They just tried to excuse it..
Hayden: I wonder if it changed his mind.
Matt: I can't believe they let that happen.
***They told her to leave him a message.
Hayden: So next week the Brigade's down to 3 people, no matter what happens... And the only people left are sasquatch..
Matt: Probably not. It's probably double eviction, and ideally he'll go home...

They're running hypotheticals that will not be happening, due to the DPOV.

Matt is setting Kathy up to take a big fall, due to her involvement in pretzel-gate, because she knew about it before the PoV Ceremony, but didn't tell him until after, when he couldn't do anything to protect himself.

Matt: I've been firing Ragan up about it, and he's got a vendetta about it now. So if I'm not here, it's not horrible to keep him around.

Matt starts pushing a Hayden/Enzo/Matt/Ragan final four, in the not gonna happen event that Lane goes home. They both get in a few Britney digs..

Matt: Like I said before, just be straight with me if you guys decide to keep Lane.. Jus ttell me the real reason. I don't wanna feel like I'm talking to Brendon. Just be real with me..
***So I can decide if I'm putting one of you on the block with my DPOV.

Matt: I'm so pissed at Kathy and her sneaky game. It's like, you have a piece of information that could save my life in this game, and you don't tell me til it's too late? I hope they understand that they f'd up big time, and they make this POV f'ing impossible for him to win.

Talk turns to where the target turns once Brendon's gone... Then they do a bit of Jedi Training, with Hayden teaching Matt all the saboteur messages.. Then it's on to Brigade Loyalty and the importance of that to Matt. He goes as far as to say that if Brendon makes it to final 2 against a Brigade member, and it's due to disloyalty, Brendon will have his vote. Same goes for Kathy.

4:35pm BBT
Backyard - Pool
Britney & Lane

Britney's telling Lane that she believes he'll stay, and that Matt's only vote will come from Ragan.

Enzo joins them and talk turns to Chelsia. Both Lane and Enzo say she was "a hot lookin' girl." They all talk about their interviews with her, and how hot the room was.

Lane remembers hearing Rachel's interviews, because she was always in the next room. Britney saw Rachel a lot during "vacation" and started being catty with others about Rachel before the show even started.

Enzo: I just want to win a f'in HoH.

Britney's second guessing herself, and saying how she could have done better in certain comps...

Enzo: Thursday, we compete! Thursday's double v. If it's not Thursday, then what's goin' on?
Britney: I don't know.

The pool crew heads across the yard to join Kathy on the couch. As they approach, Hayden starts singing, "Br-Br-Br-Bratney... Bratney" Britney responds, singing, "Here he comes, Hollywood, Hayden." Skippy on the bubble machine has an itchy trigger finger.

4:49pm BBT
Kitchen Counter
Matt & Ragan
Cams 1/2

Matt: There's 2 ways to play this...
Ragan: He said, if it was Britney and Lane, which way would you vote, and maybe this wasn't a good thing.. and I said I would vote to evict Britney...
Matt: Oh, that was definitely a good thing. Would you like to have a discussion with him?
Ragan: It's so weird that he asked you about that though..
Matt: He just assumed because we're close that I would know. I think if the plan is behind closed doors then I can say I asked you and you'd rather just talk to him about it.
Ragan: I mean, honestly, I have.. I've had to start thinking about.. but I really don't know what I'd do... I know what I value in this game, and honesty and loyalty are the 2 biggest things... I want.. So he's afraid of when it gets down to the 4? WHat happens next?
Matt: I don't know. He didn't mention it to me.
Ragan: I don't know what to say. I do trust Lane. Lane and I have never talked game.
Matt: I told him that. That I've heard many positive things out of your mouth about him and Lane..
Ragan: This week has solidified for me that Britney is here for Britney.. Kathy too.
Matt: It's important for you to tell him that.
Ragan: Anybody who takes Kathy to the final 2, I wont vote for them..
Matt: I told him that too.

Ragan: As I've been saying, the longer she stays in this game, the harder it is to get rid of her. I think having this slop depression right now may actually work to our advantage.. I'm legitimately depressed right now.
Matt: I'm not doing so hot myself. Every time I think of the wife, it makes me crushed to think I could be letting her down, so I'm trying not to. That's what's weighing on me..
Ragan: What if I told Hayden what Kristen told me about him.. It might seem like bullsh*t...
Matt: To serve what purpose... Part of why people like you is who you are... If you do that it'll be like, well this is weird.
Ragan: I'm just trying to play out the way.. If you leave, for Hayden, what does that mean? Because I'm sure that what's going through his head is how does it benefit him to keep me in the game. If it got down to us and Hayden in final 4, I'd want him in final 3.. but who wants to be the 3rd wheel?

This conversation is ongoing...

5pm BBT - They move the conversation into the Cabana Room, and talk turns to the voting.
Matt tells Ragan that as it stands right now, Hayden and Enzo are splitting the vote and leaving it up to Kathy. Ragan fears Kathy will be voting to keep Lane. Matt encourages Ragan to make a compelling case for them to vote to keep him instead.

***This is all Matt torturing Ragan for no good reason, as he's in possession of the DPOV...

Ragan: (Hearing Brendon go outside) He is so gross. What's important to me is acknowledging who is noble in this game. I don't know. I don't know what I would do... The only thing I know is there are people I would absolutely not work with: Brendon, Kathy.
Matt: Those are good things for him to hear.
Ragan: Did you initiate the conversation?
Matt: It just kinda came up. It wasn't awkward or weird or anything.. Oh.. We were tlaking about the pretzel..
Ragan: What up??

Britney enters... says her hair's looking greasy and exits to take a shower.

Matt: If it weren't for the pretzel incident, she'd be up on the block. Hayden and Enzo hardcore petitioned it. Kathy hardcore petitioned it. It would've gone through if not for the Pretzel bs. I'm super pissed.
Ragan: I was fuming in there. Fuming.
Matt: I talked to Rich about it.
Ragan: Was he apologetic?
Matt: For future seasons...

***And bubbles... til Matt stops talking about Pretzel-gate...

5:12pm BBT - Feeds are back.
Cabana Room
Matt: Good. People have told me that he's intimidated by me... I'm glad. I was telling Hayden by the pool, if I stay, I will win the comp, no matter how much it's geared toward him.
Ragan: Let's go to the Have Not Room. How much more time? Damn.. 20 minutes...

They move to the Have Not and continue the same discussion, now turning back to when Ragan should talk to Hayden about voting to keep Matt, rather than splitting the vote. Matt bemoans the vast quantity of people in the house that are unwilling to make a move. Ragan points out that anyone in the final 2 needs to be able to visualize how they can say they changed the game...

Matt: Hayden goes, what if Brendon made it to the final 2? I told him... Even though I hate him, I'd give it to him for making it through so much adversity... If he was asking, because he was feeling me out, maybe now that'll get him off of hanging on Brendon...

5:17pm BBT - They move to the kitchen, and Ragan decides he's going outside to work out.

5:30pm BBT
Around the house...

Britney and Enzo are playing pool...

Ragan's hyperventilating on the weight bench... He stops after a while, and says to himself, "You're such an idiot."

Lane's in the pool...

Pick your poison.

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Blogger Toni said...

Welcome back, Carolyn. I hope you were able to get some rest! :-)

August 17, 2010 at 1:20 PM  
Blogger David B said...

Pretty mello hamsters right now....I think I'll take a guitar break :)

August 17, 2010 at 1:24 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Toni :) Thank you!! Rest? Me? Nahhh! I went for a bike ride, then I hit the gym... Did chill for a few at starbucks though.. :)

Hey DavidB :) enjoy!

August 17, 2010 at 1:27 PM  
Blogger BBgal said...

When Jeff used the Coup de tat last year, didn't the outgoing HOH get to play for HOH again? Do you think Brendon will be able to play for HOH again in the DPOV is used?

August 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi BB Gal :) Yes, and we believe that's a yes for this year too, but honestly we wont know for certain until Thursday night.

August 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM  
Blogger Elle said...

lol That picture of Matt and Brendon is trippy!

Man, I am so sick of Kathy. I hope Matt puts her on the block haha

August 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM  
Blogger Vicki said...

what would really be funny if Brendon did get to play HOH this week, and he won!!!! Regan would probably have a complete meltdown...lol

August 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM  
Blogger Elle said...

I wonder about that too, BBGal.

On the other hand, Matt only has control of ONE of his nominations as opposed to two last year but I hope Brendon does get to play again, it would definitely make things interesting! Brit and Ragan will be crying about how unfair it is, they won't be able to concentrate on the HOH comp.

August 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM  
Blogger jluvsturtles said...

Hi Carolyn!!!
Hope you are having a beautiful day! :)

Hello everyone!

August 17, 2010 at 1:43 PM  
Blogger Kassie said...

good afternoon Carolyn

August 17, 2010 at 1:45 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

BBGal: Chima left the game before the next HOH comp but she would have been able to.

I am still not sure if he will be able to compete again... I have a feeling that since only one nomination changes, it may not be the same as the coup detat. But at the same time, if the re-nom goes home then the HOH really was worth nothing... or if the person evicted was supposed to be the pawn.

Its a close call!

Hi Carolyn!

August 17, 2010 at 1:49 PM  
Blogger deejay58 said...

Hi Carolyn!
Hi Dishers!

Good to see you all here today. I've been lurking all morning, but just now got a chance to comment ..

I have to say I think Britney would be the best candidate to evict this week, for Matt's game, that is ... he'd get out a strong player who could easily win HoH or PoV this week and who is in the ear of one of his Brogade members. That is if Matt is still firm with the boys ...

It will be interesting to see what happens Thursday, but I would absolutely love to see BB allow Brendon to play for HoH AND to have him win it a second time ... wouldn't that just frost their shorts for another week! HeeHee!

August 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM  
Blogger lscott said...

the lack of anything going on during this lockdown, Speaks Volumes!

paranoia and skeeming, oh thursday, please come quick...

August 17, 2010 at 1:52 PM  
Blogger Cris said...

Hey Everyone!! Seems like a fairly quiet day so far in BB land.

With the DPOV not being as powerful it's possible the HOH won't get to play. You could look at it both ways. Yes one of the nominees gets removed but since one is still there the HOH isn't totally overthrown. They could go either way this time but it will set a precedence for any future DPOV users.

August 17, 2010 at 1:52 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Hey, Everybody:

Still pretty busy, but hopefully able to participate on a more consistent basis here within just a few days.

In the meantime, I really, really, really want to make a statement about Regan:

Please, if you aren't friends with or don't know a gay person, DO NOT MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT GAYS based on Regan's absolutely atrocious behavior; his self-important, superior attitude; his h8r comments; his name-calling of Brendon; or his catty and bitchy remarks about Brendon and/or Rachel.

To me, he was well-named by his parents -- he reminds me of another evil-infested little child in a movie called "The Exorcist."

Anymore, I literally cringe every time he opens mouth. He is an embarrassment to the human race, let alone the gay community.

I apologize to everybody, and as an individual who cares about how I treat other people and a proud member of the gay community -- I DO NOT ACCEPT HIM AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF GAYS.

He makes even normally catty queens seem like Shirley Temple.

August 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM  
Blogger Cris said...

You would think Matt would be more aware that Lane isn't working people for votes at all.
Is it a coincidence that the person with probably the least BB knowledge is in the best situation right now? Hayden -- if he can keep all his balls in the air-- is juggling these houseguests like a pro. Not a big fan of his but if he gets to F2 I think he deserves to win.

August 17, 2010 at 2:03 PM  
Blogger chrispie22 said...

Hi Carolyn and fellow BB lovers!! Ooh wouldn't that be funny if Brendan won two weeks in a row...I think Ragan would hit the Exit button himself :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:04 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

@ Stephen, Chima left before the veto comp. She played in the HOH comp. Michele won and put her on the block.

August 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM  
Blogger Sabrina said...

IMO Matt shouldn't be complaining. If AGP really wanted to get nasty she could take his DPOV away because of his constant hinting that "someone" might have a power. He is walking a fine line by hinting about it.

August 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM  
Blogger jluvsturtles said...

Ooooh can't wait can't wait! Til Thursday! :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:11 PM  
Blogger deejay58 said...

Berdache Bear said ...
Please, if you aren't friends with or don't know a gay person, DO NOT MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT GAYS based on Regan's absolutely atrocious behavior; his self-important, superior attitude; his h8r comments; his name-calling of Brendon; or his catty and bitchy remarks about Brendon and/or Rachel.

I have to agree with you, but would take one further and omit the reference to gay people as I believe this goes beyond the boundaries of gay v hetro.

Please do not take the catty behavior of any of the HG's as absolute evidence of their true selves. I have sometimes wondered if I would be well behaved under the circumstances. Though I'd like to think I would (and most of us would like to think the same), there is every chance that the reality is .. probably not ...

August 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM  
Blogger blue_chaosdemon said...

Why does everyone hate on ragan so much for doing the same thing everyone else does. Who in that house isnt daily trashing brendan and rachel. In fact enzo pretty much does far worse than ragan does.

August 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM  
Blogger Pyke said...

Berdache Bear, would you like to have a Shirley Temple with me so we can discuss Ragan and how much of a disappointment he is? (It's not his horrible representation of the gay community to me, it is his self-righteousness and the fact that at the beginning of the game he seemed able to see all sides and only mildly blinded by Matt...)

Anyways... matt really should not have tried so hard to be on the block. In doing so, he screwed himself. Now, no matter WHAT, he will piss someone off. ragan if he puts up Britney, Hayden/Lane/Enzo if he nominates one of them, Hayden/Enzo/Lane if he nominates Kathy... hahaha this is going to be awesome!

It just may well pave the way for brendon to final 4.

August 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM  
Blogger Esco said...

I don't think Brendan will get to play for HoH again on Thursday because it's not like his whole thing was lost.. He still has Lane up there. Also, Jeff was able to put up the HoH on the block as well.. Matt can't do that. So I hope (I'm crossing my fingers) that Brendan will not be able to play and that his last week is next week.

I hope Brit doesn't leave... shes nice to look at :P haha. if you girls are allowed to say that about the guys, we can about Brit!

August 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Elle! :)
Hi Vicki! :)
Hi JLuvs! :) Thank you! You too!

Hi Kassie! :)
Hi Stephen! :)

Hi DeeJay! :) I'm glad you made it in!

Hi LScott! :)
Hi Cris! :) YUP!!

Hi BerdacheBear! :) Fear not! We know Ragan speaks only for himself!

Hi Chrispie! :) hehehe

Hi Michelle in IN! :)

Hi Sabrina! :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:13 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

I don't think Brendan's gonna get to play in up coming HOH. I hope I'm right. I want him on the block and campaigning for votes from his "friends"

August 17, 2010 at 2:15 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

DeeJay - great point!!

Hi BlueChaosDemon :)
Hey Pyke :)
Hi Esco! :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:17 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hey JOhnny5! :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:17 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...


How does Shane grow overnight? He's bigger than Silas! must be the grow lamps

August 17, 2010 at 2:17 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

I just have to say that Kathy makes me tired. She can play both sides without the nasty comments about Brendon. He cooks for her all the time and even made her bed for her when she was a have not. He is also the only one that ever asks her questions about herself and cares about the answers.

I guess it bothers me because at the beginning of the game all she talked about was integrity, honesty, etc. She may have had good reason to bash Rachel, but I've never seen Brendon treat her badly.

August 17, 2010 at 2:19 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hey Christy in AL :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:20 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...


Can your CBS connection get a E-N-Z-O pretzel to Matt?

August 17, 2010 at 2:21 PM  
Blogger Elle said...

@Berdache Bear - No worries, I would never base my opinion on an entire group of individuals based on the actions of one person, let alone Ragan.

And yes, Chima definitely played in that second consecutive HOH.

August 17, 2010 at 2:22 PM  
Blogger Elle said...

@ Christy - You know when you constantly state how have great morals, integrity, level-headedness and honor (i.e. Ragan & Kathy), it is usually the farthest thing from the truth. I'm sorry to see Brendon get the brunt of this because I think he genuinely cares about people like Kathy who don't deserve it.

August 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM  
Blogger deejay58 said...

Ok, so here goes ... and all the anti-Brendon folks can have a fair shot back at me ...

I'm not necessarily a Brendon fan, but I find it so very refreshing that he continues to conduct his business around the house inspite of the ugly conversations held behind his back, inspite of being ostracised by the other HG's, and, regardless of the fact that his own "alliance mates" can't/won't spend time with him in public.

Still, he cooks for everyone, he cleans up after everyone and he is cordial to others (at least on the outside)... which is all that can be expected from him at this point ...

Sticks and stones ...folks ... Sticks and stones ....

August 17, 2010 at 2:32 PM  
Blogger Elle said...

Esco - Jeff couldn't put up the HOH or POV winner. I'm not sure where you that impression. The only difference between Matt and Jeff's power is that Matt can only replace one nominee, instead of two.

August 17, 2010 at 2:32 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

And before I am never able to eat eggs again I think I will watch Lane sleep.

August 17, 2010 at 2:42 PM  
Blogger Tage said...

@Berdache Bear

Are there people still today who are not friends with or don't know gay people? What planet do they live on? Maybe they share it with delusional Regan. ;-)

Personally I would never hold an entire group resposible for what one stupid person does... for me there are two kinds of people - the Decent and the Indecent. Just like Viktor Frankl used to say. There are also groups of those two and the groups of Indecent can do a lot of damage. :-/

August 17, 2010 at 2:46 PM  
Blogger Tage said...

Ooooops... Good Afternoon Carolyn!

August 17, 2010 at 2:47 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Tage! :)

August 17, 2010 at 2:48 PM  
Blogger chrispie22 said...

dejay, I couldn't agree more. I'm not his biggest fan either, but I find myself rooting for him because he does handle himself well most of the time.

August 17, 2010 at 2:48 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

@All who replied to my comment re Regan: You're all correct; each and every one of the houseguests has jumped on the Brenchel H8R Bandwagon -- self-preservation in mob mentality mode.

IMHO, Britney was the instigator with her bitchy/catty remarks she and Monet started. I think Monet started it with Britney following her lead; then with Monet gone, Brit found out she could get lots of attention by keeping up the cattiness.

I suppose I'm a little too tuned into, even possibly overly sensitive to Regan because of his being gay. Everyone in the house has acted pretty small in several different instances involving several different house guests.

Somehow, it just seems to me Regan has been especially vicious and vile -- he does supposedly have a PhD and I would hope he would comport himself with a little more maturity than a 20-something beauty pageant entrant who finds it cute to be catty.

I'll revise my severe criticisms of Regan, but only by a little. I still find him (house hostage or not) unnecessarily vicious, and unrelentingly so.

BTW, haven't been around much over the past few weeks, so this may have been mentioned:

Anybody consider it possible that, even though the Sabogrimlen says the two "friends" are a girl and a boy, the reality is the friends are Regan and Matt?

August 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

Stephen@: If you do get to be a houseguest please, please don't behave like these *itchy, irrational people! Going from one group to the next spreading venom. Also we want you to talk to us on the feeds! I love that we can get a glimpse into what they really are thinking.

Of course, you have to give a shout out to the 'Dish' group.

Good luck, would love to see you there.

August 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

On Brendan, I've called him a tool, and I now regret it. After the convos he was having with Enzo last nite I see He is not a tool. He's a D-bag. He can cook and clean all he wants, people cook and clean in prison all the time. Cooking and cleaning aren't good ways to judge character.

August 17, 2010 at 2:53 PM  
Blogger Kendall said...

Hi Carolyn! and fellow Dishers!

I've been lurking all season but had to comment. I feel sorry for Brendon. He's a socially awkward nerd in the body of a hunky jock. I think the disconnect between his outward appearance and who he is as a man leave him wide open for ridicule.

BB brings out the worst in people but I think the Brendon we see cooking and cleaning and fixing Kathy's bed and asking if Ragan is okay is the real him. I'll admit he's gotten on my nerves several times but I feel like deep down he is a good person.

BTW: Lane is HOT!

August 17, 2010 at 2:53 PM  
Blogger Sandra B. said...

Good afternoon all!

Thanks for all the updates and theories for eviction.

I had a cervical(neck)disc shots today I hope it works. Carolyn have you had any? Did they work for you?

August 17, 2010 at 2:56 PM  
Blogger Sandra B. said...

Elle I think you are right about projecting the things you hate about yourself onto other people. I see it all the time in couples. The one in the relationship that is the most worried about his or her spouse cheating is usually the one cheating.

August 17, 2010 at 2:59 PM  
Blogger Tage said...

"Horrible beast." LMAO.

I again enjoy the regular talk, especially their views on Vegans and Vegetarians... since I am one. Too much of hunting talk for me... but I'd rather have that than the bashing and hate.

August 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM  
Blogger piper said...

Yo Enzo...stop smacking your lips when you eat.

August 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM  
Blogger bic1221 said...

Hello All!

It seems Matt has completely forgotten about BB allowing Matt's wife to send him a carefully worded letter which helped him to convince the other HGs that she has a serious illness. Get over the pretzels, Matt.

August 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

DJ58: Think that's what I find so annoying about the way Regan treats Brendon. Brendon has always treated Regan with respect, even when Regan was getting heated and raising his voice when he was trying to convince Brendon to play the game his (Regan's) way and trying to convince Brendon that Brendon's game was wrong, stupid and uninformed.

Brendon was respectful, and would say, "Well, I don't know," as opposed to outright telling Regan he was wrong (and to STFU). Then, Regan makes fun of that, and says it irritates him, that Brendon is just a coward.?!??!!?

I'm not a supporter of any particular person, but I do find that Brendon has played the game with the most respect for all players, and with the most true integrity.

And you're right, Kathy (and Britney, as well) have gone out of their way to make snide remarks about Brendon (and his cooking, in particular), but are always among the first in line to benefit from his helpful ways.

August 17, 2010 at 3:04 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

my spine needs a 10 minute break.. brb

please to mind ze critters. ;)

August 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM  
Blogger Sandra B. said...

Johnny5 you crack me up. Cooking and cleaning and character LOL. I must be a D-bag too cuz it seems like thats all I do around my house with teenage boys and their entourage.

August 17, 2010 at 3:13 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

Hello, Carolyn!!!!!

Hello again, lovely Dishers!!!

Just got home again. Whew! Had a lot of things to do today. But, just left my brother's where I spent some time with the nieces.

My, oh my. What an eventful day in the Big Brother House! LOL

Especially considering the fireworks from the beginning of the week with the Return of Rachel!!!

August 17, 2010 at 3:18 PM  
Blogger Tage said...

More Brendan bashing...

Now they are making fun of him for having said he was teaching snowboarding. Enzo and Hayden are mean and question it too.

I can't wait to find out if it is true since Riverside where Brendan lived is 30 minutes away from skiing and snow boarding in the local Hills and Mountains... Big Bear. Duh?

August 17, 2010 at 3:19 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

Hi Caro!
ok a couple things I need to get off my chest.
1.Brendon should stop cooking and cleaning up for everyone.I may not be very found of him, but he should not be house slave AND have to be picked on behind his back
2.Matt should quit it about the pretzels. He is safe and knows it ,so move on
3. No talking game in jury house? Yeah ,right. good luck with that!
4. Enzo is worried about not having a grill? oh, poor baby.
5. Anyone who is unhappy with the way things are going should stop whining and actually try to win something so it can change. (Yes, Enzo, Kathy and Lane: I am speaking to you)
6. Why does Lane think Hayden ahould win HOH and put up Brendon? * see #5 for reference
Ok, I think that's it.

August 17, 2010 at 3:20 PM  
Blogger fancyp said...

Has anyone looked at Ragan when he lies down he is so board thin I love him I think he is snmart and he tried so hard with Rachel at first but that was a lost cause. anyway I think they should have a medic look at him.

August 17, 2010 at 3:21 PM  
Blogger frankie said...

I really dislike Enzo. He is now surpassing Britney as crude and rude.

August 17, 2010 at 3:22 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Frankie :)

Hi FancyP :) he is terribly thin.. 3 weeks on slop...

Hi LisaM! :) Love it! Chest feeling lighter now? ;)

Hey Tage - Thanks for noticing re Horrible beast! Re Bashing.. They never seem to tire of it.. but in Hayden and Enzo's case at least, and possibly even Lane's, I think it's a big show for Matt.

Hi Blueee!! :) Welcome back! I'm glad you got some niece time!

Hi Sandra B! :) I've had quite a few disk shots.. they never amounted to much for me.. I hope they work for you!

Hi Bic1221! :)

Hey Piper!! :)

Hi Kendall! :) I'm so glad you're joining us in the comments now! Welcome out from the shadows! Lurk no more!

August 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

@berdache bear: I dont think Brendon has played with the most integrity. Whne he and Ragan had the "hammock fight" he called Ragan a d-bag and said f-you. so, he can be just as nasty. While, I will not try to make excuses for Ragan's behavior, I wouldn't say Brendon's word can be called being "nice" to him. Plus at least Ragan is honest about how he feels. Enzo goes around talking behind Brendon's back an dthen will always agree with him when he (Brendon) talks about others(like last night-when Brendon was telling about how he is tired of everyone)

August 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

yes, Caro. much better! lol

August 17, 2010 at 3:37 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

Hmmm....from the sound of this conversation between Matt and Hayden, I would say Britney may be going. Matt says he is getting Ragan "fired up" about Kathy so Ragan will go after her. He didn't mention Britney in his scenario until Hayden asked about her.

August 17, 2010 at 3:39 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Michelle: Right after I typed that I realized it was veto that she left, not HOH! LOL! Right when I hit publish it was like slow motion "noooooooooo" LOL

August 17, 2010 at 3:39 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

good good ! :)

August 17, 2010 at 3:39 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

After some of the things I just heard coming from Enzo in the backyard, I give up. I don't care who goes to final 2.

None of them can make it. BB can award the money to a charity, and I'll be happy.

August 17, 2010 at 3:41 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

Or maybe he is setting this whole thing up to get rid of Kathy...who knows what is going through the mind of the diabolical super genius? ;)

August 17, 2010 at 3:42 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

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August 17, 2010 at 3:42 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Tage: I can't tell you how many times people have told me that I am the first gay person they have been exposed to! Even if they had seen them on the street I was the first person that they ever actually talked to and got to know. Its sad...

Also, with regard to classifying all people based on one's actions... in a perfect world that wouldn't happen. But on Big Brother, he is the only gay on the show... there normally isn't more than one gay on any given season of a reality show... so while there is diversity among straight people (and thus stereotypes are not as reinforced that all straights act a certain way) it tends to happen to gays because there is only one gay there to act as a baseline to other behavior. That's why I wish they had 3 or 4 gays per season... to show people how different all gays are to see them interact in the SAME season rather than showing different gays from one season to the next.

August 17, 2010 at 3:43 PM  
Blogger KantroSAK said...

Hey folks.. Just checking in... I have a pervy question to ask the ladies...

We all know for SURE that Rachel and Kristen's boobs were as fake as a three-dollar bill.. However are Britney's boobs fake?? I can't tell so far and I'm usually really good at guessing!

August 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Shi Shi: I can't make any promises! Until you are in the house 24/7 it is hard to say how you will act. I don't intend on it though! LOL! I am not saying I won't be talking smack or even not saying personal stuff... but I hope to God I won't be reduced to the level it has gotten this season!

August 17, 2010 at 3:45 PM  
Blogger deejay58 said...

@Carolyn; Pretzel-gate?!
HeeHee ... Priceless!

August 17, 2010 at 3:45 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Johnny5: It isn't the fact that he cooks and cleans that make him of good character... it is that he cooks and cleans for people who have been blatantly rude to him and said awful things both to his face and behind his back that shows good character. He has taken the high road more than the low road in this game.

August 17, 2010 at 3:47 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

:) thanks, DeeJay :)

Hi Kantro - i dunno!

August 17, 2010 at 3:47 PM  
Blogger Pamela said...

Hi Carolyn,

Hi everyone..

I have been away since last night and I am trying to catch up and figure out what is going on.

Has everyone turned on Brendan again? Are Enzo and Hayden still with Brendan. I can't tell because of all the bashing. And what is up with Kathy? WOW


August 17, 2010 at 3:48 PM  
Blogger Toni said...

Hi blue! I hope you had a GREAT time with your nieces! Did the one starting school like her folders? :)

Carolyn, did BB really tell Rachel to leave Brendon a message or do you think she just did it and BB removed it prior to Brendon coming back?

I assumed BB would remove it.

August 17, 2010 at 3:48 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

I love how Matt complains about friggen PRETZELS and competitions geared towards B/R (which, btw, both Rachel's HOHs were questions which everyone is equal on, its a matter of studying hard and the gambling veto was really a thing of luck and there is no way for BB to think B/R would for sure win that)... but he seems to forget that one of the biggest powers you can get in BB was just handed to him for being the HOH and the first 2 endurance comps were not only geared for small people, but were handed to him by one of the weakest people in the house....

August 17, 2010 at 3:50 PM  
Blogger Pamela said...

BB is such a great game, you never know what will happen, just when you have it figured out a little, it changes..

August 17, 2010 at 3:50 PM  
Blogger Toni said...

Kantro, I believe the house has said she stated they were real.

August 17, 2010 at 3:52 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Kantro: What good does it do to know who has fake boobs or who has real boobs? I didn't even know Kristin's or Rachel's were in question of being fake... I never paid attention.

August 17, 2010 at 3:53 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Pam! :) Welcome back! I'm having trouble telling myself.. But I believe that Hayden and Enzo are sticking with Brendon. I think the rest is for show. Separately, Hayden's been working on Lane to join him with Brendon and Kathy for final 4.

Toni - She said they told her she could leave him a message, but they wouldn't give her anything to write with. There's no goof here. If she did it w/o permission, they would have removed it before Brendon ever saw.

August 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM  
Blogger Tage said...


You are right... many people don't think they know a gay person... because in many places they are still not all out. Living in L.A. taints your picture I guess.

Who did you like best in Season 8, Joe or Dustin?

August 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Cris said:

Hayden -- if he can keep all his balls in the air-- is juggling these houseguests like a pro. Not a big fan of his but if he gets to F2 I think he deserves to win.

After I read your first sentence (technically bullet) nothing else mattered, my mind so took over . . . can't really imagine him juggling them, but, keeping them in the air . . . oh well, I will keep it clean . . . too late!


August 17, 2010 at 4:01 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

Carolyn: I agree... I think Hayden and Enzo are still on the Brendon train... I just think they can't suddenly stop bashing without looking suspicious. I don't think they are gonna go out of their way to save him if he is in harm's way... but I think they have different targets now.... bigger fish to fry than Brendon if you will!

August 17, 2010 at 4:02 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Stephen, really? Not pay attention . . . that's okay, you are still my Prince Charming . . .

You don't really wonder why you didn't notice, right???

August 17, 2010 at 4:03 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

Hayden is doing a great job stringing Matt along. Now if Enzo can just keep that fat mouth shut! I'm impressed with Hayden's gameplay this week. He suspects Matt has a power and is playing accordingly.

August 17, 2010 at 4:05 PM  
Blogger bluex1969 said...

I keep flipping cams but no matter how many times I do, Jordan never pops up on any of the screens. What's up with that?

August 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Everyone - apologies.. my spine is not happy with me. i need to lay on ice for a few.. i'll be listening and hop back on at 4:30pm BBT.

August 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM  
Blogger Pamela said...

Thank you Carolyn for the update..((((hugs))))

Hope your back gets better after being on ice..lol, sorry that counds funny to me, Carolyn on Ice please..

August 17, 2010 at 4:13 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

oh, I knew there was something else. Britney thinks it's "unfair" that Rachel got to come back while they gave up 3 months of their lives and jobs in a bad economy? uh, did they drag her there? Didn't she audition and beat out hundreds/possibly thousands at a chance to be there? Doesn't she get a weekly stipend? No offense, but she is making more a week than I sometimes do. She really is a brat. Maybe she will be "lucky"
enough to be Matt's renom Thursday and them she will not have to suffer anymore.;)

August 17, 2010 at 4:13 PM  
Blogger deejay58 said...

So sorry to hear you're in pain, Carolyn ... go, rest and take very good care of yourself .. Nothing here is as important than your health ...


August 17, 2010 at 4:15 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

@Kantro: you are too funny. I believe in the first week (when everyone pretty much got along)Rachel asked Kristen a question regarding her implants. Also, someone asked if all Kristen packed were bikinis and Britney commented (and not in a mean way) that when you first get implants to tend to want to show them off. I don't think Britney's fake.(but then, I don't think it ever came up,either)as for Rachel, yes, hers are fake.

August 17, 2010 at 4:22 PM  
Blogger Sparklin said...

Good evening Carolyn & all you dishers!!

So...Matt is in the Canadian news haha!!

There is a young woman here in Canada that faked cancer (if you can believe it) even to her family ~ many people befriended her and she raised a pile of money --- then it came out she was lying. They are comparing Matt to her...lying about an illness for monetary gain!

Personally, I don't think it's the same thing. I don't agree with what he did, and I'm a big believer in Karma so I couldn't do it, but we all have our own level of integrity and justifications. Matt is doing it to win a game that is centered around lying and back-stabbing - this girl took public money and sympathy...hmmm

August 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Blue - teehee!

Pamela :) Thank you :)

LisaM :) now now.. how do y areally feel?

DeeJay :) Thank you. HUgs :)

Hi Sparklin :)

August 17, 2010 at 4:36 PM  
Blogger jane said...

Pretzel-gate is one of my all time favorite gates. I particularly enjoy a gate where nothing happened at all.

August 17, 2010 at 4:38 PM  
Blogger David B said...

Okay. My dream F2 would be Hayden and Brittany. I think.

August 17, 2010 at 4:40 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Tage: That is so funny you ask about Joe versus Dustin...

I could not STAND Joe! Granted, I have never met him or anything... but the way I saw him both edited on TV and on the feeds was just annoying as all hell!

While the season was aired, I really liked Dustin... but I watched BB8 again recently and I couldn't stand him either! But he was definitely way more mature than Joe...

So... I didn't really care for either of them! But if I had to choose... Dustin!

August 17, 2010 at 4:45 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

sorry, I just hate when people complain about being there. It's a great opportunity and there are so many that would love to be in that place right now. Ok, I'll get off the soap box. :)

August 17, 2010 at 4:46 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Tage: I lived in LA for just over a year and I had more people there than anywhere else tell me I was the first gay person they really got to know.... just goes to show there is no way to know for sure how exposed people are to different backgrounds...

August 17, 2010 at 4:46 PM  
Blogger Sparklin said...

I kinda sorta like Brendon since Rachel has been gone, but when she was there to stir him up or listen, he was bashing left and right when he wasn't clinging to her.

He doesn't HAVE to clean or cook for everyone. No one asked him to pick up after them. That's his choice and his decision...'cause he's such a nice guy? Not necessarily...He's bored and he misses his love and he has no one to bash with anymore so may as well keep busy!

I don't feel sorry for any of them either for the bashing or for the outcome of their GAME. I can only imagine being in a house 24/7 with someone that just rubbed me the wrong way for ANY reason. Obviously you can't go their face with how you feel or what you want to say in case they are voting to give you $$ -- I'm sure it's unbelievably stressful and frustrating. We on the other hand can go shopping or read a book or call a friend....and yet we still bash the house-guests for bashing lol

August 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

@Sparklin: I would have to agree. He is doing it as game play. morally, it can be viewed as wrong, but he is not asking for donations. And the viewers know it's not true.

August 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@LisaM: I 100% agree! To complain about being in the house, no matter what the twist, is soooo dumb! I know for me when I got to the semi-final interview, which really isn't even that close to getting on the show, if I found out someone just gave up and took my potential spot I would be PISSED OFF!

Part of Big Brother is "Expect the Unexpected." The Coup d'Etat... Diamond Veto... Returning Houseguests, etc is ALL unfair... more unfair than leaving a name in pretzels... she didn't even get to qualify WHAT the name meant...

If BB lets it happen, then it is fair game........ if you can't adapt to the changing game, then let Darwainism weed you out!

August 17, 2010 at 4:52 PM  
Blogger deejay58 said...

Well, it's that time again ... time for me to go and get dinner cooked, errands run ..

It's been fun hanging out in the comments today since I don't get to do much of that normally.

For now though, take care, Carolyn!
G'nite Dishers! Thanks once again for the interesting commentary on the BB house!

August 17, 2010 at 4:59 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

DeeJay :) It's been great having you here today. Hugs!

August 17, 2010 at 5:00 PM  
Blogger Sunny said...

Hello BBDishers!!!

Im horrible after reading all the posts as to who's post I wanted to comment on.

I agree totally with who ever it was that mentioned Brendon's character. I think he has carried himself quite well. He cleans and still cooks for people who are ungrateful to him for doing so. I couldnt do it.

I would have been evicted the first week. I would never be able to live in a house where NO ONE picked up after themselves. Not to mention did any of the cooking.

Sure a couple of them have lent a hand with a "few" things here and there. But Brendon still does it knowing how the others all feel about him.

To me that speaks volumes as to what kind of character he really has. If I were his Mother, Id be proud of him. Not too proud of some of the things he has said... but thats the game.

trying not to get got..

August 17, 2010 at 5:04 PM  
Blogger Lisa M said...

ok, well it's time for me to head off for now. I have some things to do around the house since I have an early day at work tomorrow. Goodnight Carolyn and fellow dishers!

August 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hey Jane :) I'm pretty fond of Pretzelgate myself...

August 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi SUnny :)

G'nite Lisa M! :)

August 17, 2010 at 5:12 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

As for Brendan bashing, can all these people be wrong? ( and by all these people I mean the HG)

As for Enzo giviing the Abrrev. nicknames for people. ( I know brendan's is ND) I got one for Enzo, It's B. A. and it's something Larry David is called in a episode of Curb. Let's see if anyone can guess

August 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM  
Blogger jane said...

What on earth is Matt's game? It's driving me nuts. I have no freaking clue what he is doing with Ragan?

August 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM  
Blogger Sunny said...

Alrighty another post I want to comment on is

Stephen Richie... If you make it onto BB13(unless it becomes All-Stars), I am going to buy Carolyn's feeds next year. I usually dont have the money to do that, but Ill start saving now for that event. There is no way Im going to miss one minute of BB. Cant afford not to get them when ya have someone you know in the house.

Dang I just found 2 quarters, a dime, and a penny in my couch!! Its a start!! ok....whoooosaaaaaa whooooosaaaaaa... I gotta calm down.. lol

August 17, 2010 at 5:18 PM  
Blogger jane said...

I think Matt is turning into the unibomber.

August 17, 2010 at 5:20 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

I think it's funny how Ragan always thinks HIS way is the logical way of thinking. He always says "if he/she would think logically..."

The bottom line is, what is logical for Ragan, is not the logical or beneficial decision for everyone else.

August 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM  
Blogger jane said...

Ragan has completely lost any grasp on reality. I still maintain he should never have been cast. The man will have to be institutionalized after this is over. And I'm not joking.

August 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...


I see the potential for brownie points for cooking and cleaning for people who dont like you. But I dont know why he does that, maybe he's just bored and it gives him sumthin to do?

I do know why he gets loud and in the face of the two least physically imposing people in the house. That's a much better chAracter indicator to me.

August 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Lisa M: Sorry, I have to disagree with you, and maintain Brendon has much, much, much more integrity than Regan does.

I don't think Brendon responding to attacks, initially, on his "girlfriend" and then on himself, with words of no more viciousness than those thrown casually at and about him means he "has no integrity."

Regan had spent days on end bashing the two of them, without Brendon deigning to even respond. Finally, Regan launched an undeserved attack on Rachel: every disturbance/fight in the house being Rachel's fault; he could not accept that possibly his interpretation of Rachel's facial expressions might have been misinterpreted -- after all, he knows better than Rachel what she was thinking (can you say, "projection"); he reduced Rachel to tears, basically calling her out as a terrible, rotten, useless human being.

I'm afraid I'd have had to react as Brendon did. His few words of retaliation hardly expose him as having as little integrity as Regan. JMO.

August 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

I think Matt's game is pretty good, I'll have a stronger opinion after DpoV. As for what's he doing with Ragan? two words Human Shield

August 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM  
Blogger Sparklin said...

Should Ragan be doing those weights without a spotter??? Doesn't seem wise to me lol

August 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Sunny: I don't wanna count my chicken's before they've hatched, but if they see me as outrageous as I am in real life, I think I've got a shot! :-)

I will be a diva and demand all the dishers get free feeds! LOL! I doubt anyone will listen to me, but I'll try. Haha

August 17, 2010 at 5:44 PM  
Blogger Johnny_5 said...

But now I gots to go

Time to go eat the doughnuts

August 17, 2010 at 5:45 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Hi Carolyn and everyone else . . .

August 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM  
Blogger Marcia said...

KantroSAK: just today someone teased her about 'massaging' her chest.She laughed and said "I have to." I remember when my sister got breast enhancement the Dr. said she had to do the same for a few months afterwards.So my guess is she had some work done. IMO

August 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Christy in AL - agreed! it's completely narcissistic behavior.

Jane - Not even reveling a tiny bit in the irony of his choice in a partner?

Johnny5 - enjoy :)

Sparklin - maybe that's why BBs paying such close attn to him?

August 17, 2010 at 5:48 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Johnny5: I definitely see what you are saying... its not like doing dishes makes you boy scout of the year or anything, LOL! I just think that with everything thats been done for him to just keep doing that stuff says at least a little something.... but it could just be boredom. Although, I must say if people were like that towards me in the house, I would find a way to occupy my time when I was bored that was no benefit to them....

I disagree about the hammock... no one was innocent in that situation. Rachel and Ragan were being passive aggressive children and Brendon was being hot headed.... I perfer Brendon's actions in that situation to that which Ragan did but I could see how someone could easily swing the other way.

August 17, 2010 at 5:48 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Stephanie :)

Hi Marcia :)

August 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

The main difference I see in the behavior of Ragan vs. Brendon is this--Brendon gets angry, says things he shouldn't, apologizes, gets over it and goes back to normal. Ragan gets mad, says things he shouldn't, apologizes, then goes back out to bash Brendon some more and judge him to be a gross, horrible human being.

Those two have both made mistakes. They will never like each other, but the fact that Brendon can move past it and show respect for Ragan as a human is what impresses me. JMO.

August 17, 2010 at 5:51 PM  
Blogger Sparklin said...

I love how different personalities come together and even though two people may be totally opposite in every sense, their opinion of what they see/hear/feel about the house-guests are exactly the same, while others are totally different.

I'm fairly sure that we all live normal lives (well, mines normal to me :)~ ) working and partying and visiting ~ raising children, making dinner, running errands...and yet I can't grasp what some of you do lol..

The good thing about me, is that I get if you can't see things my way too haha!! Sometimes I want to say 'really? Are we watching the same show?" lol ~ but then I think if I put out my whole opinion, I would get that question right back!f

Sorry for the rant ~ I was just reading all the different OPINIONS and realized, although I can see some view points, some I could never be persuaded to change hahahaha

August 17, 2010 at 5:51 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Hey Carolyn, I noticed a new nickname appeared in the BB12 Post: The Super Power, The Saboteur & The Animal Report late yesterday, McYummy! I so squeeled with delight . . . he is so yummy! And McSteamy and McDreamy were already taken . . . ;D

Don't the boys call him Animal? Hmmmmmmm ... .... .....

August 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM  
Blogger Rose said...

I'm just going to jump in here and say that BB
should get some pointers from Wipeout for
their challenges!!!!!!! WOW

August 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM  
Blogger Stephanie from the West Coast said...

Okay, I get home and can finally get on the feeds . . . Ragan working out . . . oh what fun . . . how many video cameras you got there Skippy????

August 17, 2010 at 5:58 PM  
Blogger earlybird said...

I think the only reason that Matt keeps droning on, and on about the pretzel message is that, now, he's going to be directly responsible for sending someone home who would otherwise have been safe, had Rachel not interfered.

If Brendon nominated anyone other than a Brigade member, I'm fairly sure Matt would NOT have used the DPoV, thereby lessening the blood on his hands -- and the target on his back.

August 17, 2010 at 5:58 PM  
Blogger KantroSAK said...

@ Stephen Richie... Just curious.. This is one of the most boring weeks ever and I'm trying to make the most out of it...

I find Britney's bosom very attractive, and I'm not usually drawn to fake ones -- coming from NYC and now Vegas... Usually, such large ones on such a small frame usually is suspect

@ Berdache Bear... VERY well said!!!

I couldn't agree with you more and NEVER look at a small sampling to represent the whole of the community they come from.

Anyone who looks at Kevin from last season or Regan from this season as every homosexual man is a sad person indeed... Look at Steven from S10 -- he was a friggin cowboy!!

just like everyone here should not have been looking at Andrew and thinking every modern-orthodox man is like that because I know a TON of people who practice similarly to him, however have amazing people-skills!

August 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM  
Blogger KantroSAK said...

@ Marcia... VERY interesting!!!! Thanks!!

August 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM  
Blogger Cris said...


August 17, 2010 at 6:33 PM  
Blogger Merry said...

Hi Everybody! :)

I've been gone all doing that thing they call work. Ug. Such a long day.

anything of relevance happen today? I think I read everything but I could have missed something.

Caro - How's your back holding up? You need me to find Russell for you? :)

August 17, 2010 at 6:53 PM  
Blogger Divr said...

Janelle did indicate in one of her live shows that when the DPOV was in play and Chicken George was HOH, he was told if it was used he would be allowed to play in the next HOH.

August 17, 2010 at 7:01 PM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Evening Lovelies! :)

August 17, 2010 at 7:45 PM  
Blogger AuburnGirl said...

They are FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!!
And yes she is always massaging them which you do when you have implants. It keeps them from getting hard. If your breasts are natural you don't need to massage them.

August 17, 2010 at 8:08 PM  

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