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Monday, August 29, 2011

Monday Afternoon - The Rabbit Lives & Jordan Makes Something of a Deal with Adam!

Good afternoon, BB Lovers! I hope you're enjoying a terrific Monday! Big news on the live feeds the moment I stepped into the room! Let's get straight to it!

If you missed the morning, please see our previous posts.


1:20pm on
Feed 1 & 2
Candy Room
Rachel & Jordan

Rachel has just whisper announced to Jordan that she is not pregnant...

Rachel: I took the test. It's negative.
Jordan: Oh good. Good, good, good.
Rachel: Yeah.
Jordan: I bet you feel better now.
Rachel: I feel better, but I will tell you that if it had been another result, I wouldn't have been disappointed. I wouldn't have been upset. But.. that's one less thing to stress out about..

Jordan: True.
Rachel: So now I have to figure out why I feel sick.
Jordan: Might be stress.
Rachel: Maybe..

Jordan: Is everyone outside?
Rachel: Shelly's in the kitchen.. ohh.. Shelly came up to me and she was like, do you guys have anything else to ask me, and I was like, we really still need to think about it and figure out what's best for us, and she was like, well, if you have any questions, just let me know..

***And... that's a no.

Now to figure out why she's been so queasy in the mornings..


CUT TO:
1:45pm
Feed 3 & 4
Rachel, Kalia & Porsche
Bikini hour has begun.. but we're women.. we multi-task.. there is game talk.


Kalia and Porsche are now gung ho for getting Shelly out.. and then Kalia thrown in another factor. "You know that Dani and Jeff both threw that Veto.. the cornhole.. so Adam really hasn't won anything on his own"

And they bring up the Dr Will factor: You know that he won his season without ever winning a comp...

Kalia: When it comes to trying to trust someone, Adam is like the male Jordan.. Whereas with Shelly, she lies to your face.
Rachel: I've been trying to tell people that the whole game, and it always gets turned on me..
**Now they believe it.

Kalia refers back to the conversation about race in America she had with Shelly, that Shelly was super responsive to, and then turned it around and bad-mouthed Kalia to others about it...

1:52p cont'd
Rachel weighs out the pros and cons of Shelly and Adam with Porsche and Kalia.. They agree that with Shelly, the big thing is the manipulation factor, and they're all so keyed into how she operates when her back is against the wall, they are now hyper vigilant about keeping Shelly calm and clueless.

1:54pm
Jordan emerges... from her Candy Room cocoon to workout in the backyard. The other women remain tanning.

Kalia: My vaginal area does not look like I want it to look. Just thought everyone would like to know.
Porsche: My unibrow situation is fine..

Talk turns to the Biore strip party with Adam last night. And Rachel wants an invite to a Biore party.. Also, they would really like it if BB gave them some alcohol tonight.

***With the negative pregnancy test result, I bet they do get some. ;0)

2pm

Kalia's complaining about no sex in TOO long! Porsche's putting tanning lotion on her and teases that "this is the most action you've gotten in weeks." Kalia returns the favor... to appreciative oohs and aahs..
The sexual innuendo's flying.. Porsche goes inside to get a drink, and Kalia and Rachel talk about Kalia's boyfriend who lives on a boat in the Marina.. Marina del Rey... Talk turns to 90210 and Porsche returns.

2:05pm
Feed 1
Rachel steps away, and Kalia confers with Porsche, asking if she thought that was too much. Both agree their talk with Rachel went just fine. Shelly asks if she may join them... then walks away..

Porsche: I think it was good, and we don't have to bring it up again for a little bit.
Kalia: mm hmm

Then Shelly returns.

Kalia: I'm so in need of.. something.. I think you know what it is..
Porsche: (to Shelly) You missed the conversation we were having before.. We were putting oil on each other, saying this is the most touch we've had in 2 months..
Shelly: It's only been 59 days.
Kalia: 66 with no touch. I can't stand it. Oh my God... How many days left? 18 or 19 or 17?

2:12pm BBT
Feed 1 & 2

Kalia's gotten into the pool, so she's un-mic'd, while talking to Shelly. Shelly asks how it's going with trying to sway Rachel... Porsche and Kalia are selling Shelly a bill of goods...

Shelly: She knows she can beat me..

Rachel returns to the area after 2 minutes, necessitating a conversation change..

CUT TO:
2:25pm BBT
Feed 3
Jordan & Adam

Jordan: You're bein' played with them..
Adam: I know..
Jordan: Before they were all about her.. And you mighta been with them, but Kalia was like, I didn't know how close you guys were.
Adam: I know it seems like I was playing both sides but I was with you guys.. and that's why it hurt so much when the votes came in.
Jordan: I'm not playing with my best friend now.. Now I'm playing for me.
Adam: If I make it to the finals, it's because I've earned it.. and proven I can be trusted.
Jordan: I just need to know.. assurance for me, that you are with us 150%.
Adam: Yes, yes.. and the only way you and Rachel are going up is as a replacement..
Jordan: Right. And then you're the tiebreaker.
**if he wins HoH next week.

Jordan: I told Rachel.. Do not talk. Do not say anything. I'm not letting anybody know what we're doin' til Thursday. And even her speech.. She's trying to make an effort.. and we've already discussed it, if me n her don't get knocked out next week, we're taking you.. for sure.. 100%.
Adam: I need that reassurance.. Cuz if I'm HoH next week, I can't play...
Jordan: Exactly.. and you have my word. In a perfect world, if we both make it to the final 2... we're taking you.. I promise.

They shake on it...
Adam: I will do everything in my power to keep you and Rachel safe.
Adam and Jordan solidify before moving out into the hall where Jordan has a few more words for Adam...


CUT TO:
2:30pm
Feed 3 & 4

The conversation continues as they exit the Have Not Room...

Adam: I can't stop bein' honest.. It sucks.. You can read everything on my face..
Jordan: Adam, I just want you to know.. If you're with me n Rachel, doesn't mean you're gonna be 3rd out.
Adam: Thank you... cuz who would I rather sit next to? Thanks, dearie.
Jordan: You're welcome.

CUT TO:
2:45pm
Feed 1
Shelly, Rachel, Porsche, Kalia...
Bikini Hour continues... Topic: Ashiness... aka Dry Skin.



While these 4 are tanning, Jordan's doing lunges and various other exercises across the yard.
2:52pm
BB: Houseguests, this is a lockdown. Please go outside and close the sliding glass door.
***Why not just say, Adam?
Porsche: Scared the crap outta me! Probably switching the keys.
Kalia: I light burned out...

Porsche runs inside to use the restroom real quick. Shelly moves to the couch for a smoke. Jordo switches from lunges to squats.



2:55pm
Feed 3
Jordan runs inside as well.. She tweaks Porsche's tush on her way in to the bathroom.. Adam's in there as well.. Both Jordan and Porsche are back outside within a minute.

3:03pm
Quad

All's quiet in the western front...



Rachel comes over to refill her water and chats with Adam about how he gets sunburnt easily. Passing by, Jordan asks if Rachel would like to work out later. That's a yes. Adam recommends Rachel go workout in her bikini, and give the feeders a thrill.. Kalia's relaxing in the pool.. Shelly and Porsche are laying on the chaise lounges, tanning.

3:05 - 3:10p
Jordan: Adam, did you like that 90210 this morning?
Adam: Loved it. I thought I was still dreaming.

  • Talk turns to 90210.. (***Hi Jessica.. RIP, Steve..)
  • Then on to boobs..
  • And back to 90210. gah.
  • And cookies and salads.. (I need food.)
3:13pm BBT

It's looking like a safe time for a blogger food break... We need to eat too. ;)


3:17pm - 1 more thing... The lockdown is now over. Adam goes inside to check and then sticks his head back outside to say, "Nothin'. " Jordan, Rachel and Shelly go inside as well.. Kalia and Porsche remain in the backyard, and Kalia tells Porsche that she finds (I'm guessing Rachel) less annoying now, but she still wants her gone.

3:30pm
Feed 1
Porsche tells Kalia she thinks Rachel is leaning towards voting out Adam. Kalia's not so sure..

3:35pm
Feed 3
Jordan tells Rachel about her conversation with Adam, except the final 2 part.. They're both intent on voting Shelly out and working with Adam.

Jordan: He gave his word. I trust him. Shelly's gotta go.
Rachel: I think so too.
Jordan: Me n you gotta work together. I think Shelly would screw you over as soon as she had the opportunity.
Rachel: Me too. She's already screwed over Brendon, Adam, Jeff...
Jordan: Adam's pissed at her too.

3:45pm
  • Shelly and Porsche are silently tanning...
  • Rachel & Jordan are walking the yard, talking about everyone in jury.. then talk turns to what to prepare for dinner.

3:50pm. OK.. this time I mean it.. Please mind the critters on the live feeds!! Whenever I step away, they spontaneously burst into game talk. But, I need a little break... I'll be back shortly.

5:00pm Checking in..
  • Rachel's jogging in the back yard. Shelly's smoking on the couch, and making nice with Rachel.
  • Adam's in bed in the Candy Room.
  • Jordan's fixing a salad. Kalia comes in to chat and pick at the veggies Jordan's cutting.
  • No camera on Porsche at the moment...
5:10pm
Jordan and Kalia are talking about food and travel on 1 and 2...
Rachel's stretching on 3 & 4

5:18pm
1 & 2
Kalia & Jordan
Kitchen
Jordan and Kalia continue talking on 1 & 2. Dani is the topic now.. They're having a refreshingly frank discussion, well worth your time on flashback, if you're not seeing it live. Jordan's explaining their motivation behind getting rid of Dani: Trust. They didn't trust that she wouldn't come after them the following week. Kalia owns up that they felt the same about Jeff...

5:27pm
The frank discussion between Kalia and Jordan continues on 1 & 2.. It's all about game moves gone by and past decisions made... What's really happening here, beyond the actual words, is that Kalia and Jordan are reestablishing a level of trust and communication, or at least the basis for it...

5:30pm
Rachel enters and sees the conversation in progress. She gives a glance in their direction and heads to the bathroom.. Kalia and Jordan's continue the conversation without a break... Still talking about Dani...

5:33pm
Kalia and Jordan's talk moves into the present, talking about Shelly. Jordan tells Kalia that the betrayal struck her so hard, even though Rachel had been warning her about Shelly since week 3.

5:38pm
Kalia & Jordan move the conversation outside... Shelly is the topic of conversation and it's all about her being a liar. Kalia tells her that Porsche called Shelly the female Dr. Will last night and expounds upon that. Even so, neither Jordan nor Kalia will give as far as who they want out more..

5:44pm
Feed 1 & 2
Rachel, fresh from the shower, comes outside to join the conversation about Shelly. Kalia tells her about Shelly's lie regarding the Fortune Teller and Rachel supposedly overhearing Porsche and Kalia, instead of just owning up to it. (refer back to the Overnight) More Shelly lies come to light. Jordan tells them Shelly told her she found the chess pieces. Shelly swore on her family to Porsche and Kalia that she hadn't, and tried to blame the find on Rachel.

5:49pm
Jordan asks and Kalia comes clean immediately about her and Dani hiding stuff...

5:52pm
Feed 1
The frank discussion that started about an hour ago, keeps growing. Adam comes outside and joins Kalia, Jordan and Rachel on the couch. The tenor of the conversation continues: Shelly's a big liar and we've caught her now.. and ♫We won't be fooled again! It's rather telling that they make the decision to continue the conversation in front of Adam..

5:58pm
Feed 1
Everyone but Adam is sharing their duped and manipulated by Shelly stories.. Kalia puts the capper on it, as far as why Shelly is dangerous to keep...

Kalia: Shelly could definitely get to the end and say, "I never had to win a darn thing. All I had to do was make all of you take each other out."

Jordan runs with it, saying how Rachel was the easy scapegoat.

Jordan: I can't get mad, cuz I got played. Really played.
Rachel: I noticed what she was doing week 2...
Kalia: That's what Porsche and I were talking about last night..

The HGs are going and going and going... Enjoy the evening! We're down to the nitty gritty in the BB13 house. They're all down to a 1 in 5 chance at 500,000 dollars, and it is Game On! As it has been since the very beginning of the season....

It's now just after 6pm pacific time, and Shelly-Fest 2011 continues and escalates between Jordan, Rachel, Kalia and Adam...

At 6:41pm Shelly-Fest comes to and end when she walks out the sliding glass door...

Everyone should be home from work now, east coast or west. It's time for YOU to spark up your feeds, and it's time for me to check out until tomorrow morning at about 1 or 2am BBT with the Overnight Report.

This House! These People! This Game!








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97 Comments:

Blogger deeder76 said...

Hopefully it's not a false negative! That's the last thing Brenchel needs in their lives right now!
And Caro, thank you!! Emily is so excited. She's like, "Maybe I can become the official candle of BB!!" Lol.

August 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This might me kinda weird to discuss, but....you know when there's a lot of girls living together over a period (no pun intended ha) of time they begin to cycle together....that's all im gonna say :-)

August 29, 2011 at 1:47 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Hello again Carolyn, hope you had a good morning.

Good news about Rachel. Wonder what they would do if she or any women got pregnant in the house. I would assume they would be taken out of the game. It would be to dangerous to compete in any physical comps.

I think Shelly's days are numbered. Both pairs of ladies need Adam on their side. They actually need him to win an HOH. Can he do it? So far he's been a choker so who knows.

Game talk all the time. Don't they ever stop? Don't they get bored? I know I do. Back to Cornholegate again.

August 29, 2011 at 1:49 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Beware of a possible false negative!! Hopefully she will test again soon if things havent gotten going....

August 29, 2011 at 1:50 PM  
Blogger Crisi said...

The Rabbit Lives!!! Too Funny!

I was wondering if Dani told Brendon that Rachelle was late when she got to the jury house. She has threatened to tell Rachelle she was gonna tell him, but I wonder if she did.

Well, if she can win the POV with that stress hanging over her head, she surely can do alot more this week for HOH!!

I was never a Rachelle "fan", but after watching how much this girl has battled through and now with her 2.0 persona as some have said, she has my vote!!!

August 29, 2011 at 1:50 PM  
Blogger Pamela said...

Hi Carolyn,

Welcome back...


Pam

August 29, 2011 at 1:56 PM  
Anonymous maresmya said...

just seeing if thisworks

August 29, 2011 at 2:00 PM  
Blogger O-H Steph I-O said...

I work in women's health and just want to remind people that diet and STRESS can alter a womans cycle. Some women under extreme stress or those who exercise a lot can actually stop having them. There is even a chance that she was never regular either which is normal for a young lady (who may have changed her BC) who's not had children. I've known healthy, non pregnant young women who've missed several. YAY, for her, what a relief right now and it's one less thing to worry about for her.

August 29, 2011 at 2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there are more Kalia and Porsche fans than let on. They probably feel unfortable commenting. Although everyone says all points of view of welcome, if yours is not the same as the majority, people attack it(not you).

Kalia - talks and eats a lot which is no reason to dislike someone...but people never like the ethnic females.

Porsche - was an enigma because of the golden key, but is totally likeable. She's on the wrong side of the house now...so she's horrible too.

August 29, 2011 at 2:02 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Welcome Back Carolyn!


My 2 cents. Whether Rachel is or isn't pregnant is not my business.

August 29, 2011 at 2:03 PM  
Blogger Pyke said...

Carolyn,

Go back and re-watch the flashback of Adam talking about his "fake" alliance. I believe he was referring to the alliance that he was making the name for with all of the veterans in the first few weeks. That alliance was fake.

You misheard him, just like when Dani told Adam, "I tried to save you that week" in backdooring Jeff, he misunderstood her. Adam was the original target, but Dom became the target because of her move. It was a misunderstanding.

August 29, 2011 at 2:11 PM  
Anonymous maresmya said...

I too have been a daily reader of this site, I check at least ten times a day. I Rarely comment. When the game ends Im lost for a while. Anyway, I too am rooting for rach..now that she is not so mean.

I want to be a more positive person.I would love to be like jordan, how she always see's the glass half full. I always see the frigging glass empty. I want to change that so, I hope rach wins and she and brendan can have the wedding of their dream's.
jordan second..for the rest I do not like any of their game play. I thinkkalia is obnoxsious, porchia has to big of an ego adam has no game and shelly just shocked me how she just build jjup only to jab them and twist a knife in the back. I know its a game but she was kissing @ss, that i could have done without bc that is what was so hurtful, even I felt the pain...she is a miss high and mighty, I hate that in anyone.
go jorachel !!!!!!! marianne in ny

August 29, 2011 at 2:14 PM  
Blogger patti said...

Just an FYI. Pregnancy tests test the level of HCG in the urine, and often the level is not high enough to test positive in the first month of pregnancy. That is why the test box tells you if you get a negative result, but no menses, to keep checking, it may very well change to positive.

August 29, 2011 at 2:15 PM  
Blogger johnny5 said...

Anon@ 2:02

My girlfriend is pakistani. I love ethnic women... all women. I'm not a fan of Kalia's not because she is black (her views on race don't help) but because I don't like her personality

The Porsche with the golden key kept me as a fan Longtime! it took a while for me to realise how shallow and conceited she appears to be

August 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM  
Blogger misslissa said...

I'm all about being positive~~but I'm gonna pout today and say boo-hoo I miss Jeff in the pool pics:)!!

August 29, 2011 at 2:27 PM  
Blogger K-Mac said...

Whether Rachel is pregnant or not certainly isn't our business, but you have to admit that it would make good tv if she was! And the first BB baby, I wonder if he/she would be automatically selected for BB 38 or something;) jokes people.

In the spirit of positivity, I have to say regardless of who we root for or hope to see sent packing, this has been one GREAT season!

August 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Go Jordan!! She's getting her ducks in a row for F3 with Rachel and Adam.

Please don't be wishy washy Adam, please.

August 29, 2011 at 2:29 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

anon: My views on Kalia have nothing to do with her race and I am sure that I am not the only one who is offended by what that your statement infers.

And it is easy not to put a name with your posts but it is just as easy to add your name as well.

August 29, 2011 at 2:32 PM  
Blogger ceemurph said...

@Anon 2:02 and 1:08 (prev post)

I would love to have a reason to root for P/K, but they haven't given one. They've won some comps, but negate that with their attitudes and nasty talk about Rachel. I lost all respect. I was all about Shelly's great social game until she went all "Fatal Attraction" on R's puppy! Again, I lost respect. I'm still waiting for Adam to make a real game move. If the newbies can give me a reason to root for them I would love to, until then GO RAJO!

August 29, 2011 at 2:32 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Hope you have a great afternoon/evening Carolyn.

Gonna take a break..I'm getting a little to salty for my liking.


Mwah!

August 29, 2011 at 2:41 PM  
OpenID lilmari215 said...

These girls talk about how affectionate brenchel are towards eachother and complain how disgusting it is but then there going to broadcast how "horny " they are on national tv...come on these girls are so ridiculous...I'm Just Sayin....lol

August 29, 2011 at 2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anne said...

Personally, I don't think if Rachel was pregnant she would need to be removed from the game. I mean, if CBS was smart, they would, out of fear of litigation if Rachel were to (very unfortunately) miscarry. But so long as she wasn't put on slop I really don't see why comps would be necessarily of any extra risk to her. She's in great shape and exercises regularly, and this show had Jerry on, remember? I think her body would be plenty strong, and used to the exercise the competitions usually involve. Pregnant women aren't porcelain dolls or anything.

That said, it's good to know that she (probably) isn't pregnant and won't have that extra-added stress on her mind. I'm guessing stress plus maybe altered eating habits are making her late and queasy.

August 29, 2011 at 2:44 PM  
Anonymous Chris said...

I think I'm loving Rachel more everyday! That girl's personality is just soooo great with the kinda shy and reserved personality of Jordan. I think she and Jordan are an awesome pair who do alot for each other and bring out the best of each of them. A really unlikely duo from the outside but a wonderful, surprising genuine couple of friends.

August 29, 2011 at 2:46 PM  
Anonymous rosaritoe said...

Just read the post of Adam in the back yard.
So heartwarming.'I hope I didn't embarass anyone.'
OMG
Wonder if Farah will propose to HIM on the finale!
He sure has a huge heart.

hola hovenes

August 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Everyone! :)

Sorry I'm running so behind on comments.. I had to make a mom call.. ;)

August 29, 2011 at 2:58 PM  
Anonymous Juniper said...

For the life of me I cannot figure out how every word P/K/S say is a mean girl comment and they are such bad people but when B/Jeff/Rachel were and do say something negative there is always at least half a dozen comments 'excusing' and 'explaining' WHY they are upset.

It is no wonder Rachel has made it to 27 with the maturity of a 15 year old since she knows all she has to do is play cool and apologize and people will let it go. and conveniently 'forget' who she really is.

It's to bad the other girls do not get the same consideration.

August 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM  
Blogger FL Girl said...

Glad RA took the pg test, was worried about her drinking.
Jordan has more game than folks give her credit for.

August 29, 2011 at 3:03 PM  
Anonymous Cisco said...

Porshe likable????????? Should I remind you of what she has said:
"I'm the pretty one"
"The hostest with the mostest"
"Talking to Jordan is like talking to a ham sandwich"
"Maybe the comp. will be something that will cause Rachel to lose the baby"
"I've got the curves--isn't it obvious"

August 29, 2011 at 3:06 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

Hello Carolyn! Hello Genie! Hello Dishers!

I apologize for my second hiatus of the season. I am in Seattle helping me sister move into her first house and I have been using my iPhone to read at the dish because internet isn't set up here... for some reason I cannot write comments from there. But do not fear, I have been here despite no comments! I am really second guessing my decision to make a 3 week multi-state vacation during the crucial weeks of the game that is BB!

Some Thoughts (For Those Interested)

(1) My condo in Manhattan was in the small mandatory evacuation zones and from what I hear, it was one of the few places that actually substantially flooded... luckily I am on the 8th floor... I missed the earthquake and the hurricane! YAY! I hope anyone else in the path made it out fine and dandy!

(2) My heart goes out to Shelly for the insanely fabricated accusations and allegations that overboard fans concocted. No matter what you think of her in the game, I think we can all agree that she seems like an amazingly loving mother and wife. Shame on those who did such a thing to her and her family (which I know is no one on this dish--we are a classy bunch).

(3) The Fortune Teller will not be power or like-twist. At least to me, it seems that it will be a pivotal role in a competition, such as the saboteur last season when there was a comp where the HGs had to know the statements ver batim. Remember, a fortune teller is not magic--they merely tell you what lies ahead. Maybe there will be a veto or HOH competition where it spews out facts and fabrications from the outside world (Casey Anthony acquittal; Amy Winehouse Death; Earthquake/Hurricane in NYC...) and the person with the most points after 10 fortunes wins.

(4) I am loving the Rachel/Jordan budding friendship and rock-solid alliance! Since the meltdown/smack-down extraordinare, I think the girls have been focused and making good game strategy. I hope Adam stays true! I think it is his best move at this point. I hope Jeff and Brendon are proud when they see that the girls pulled off what seemed like an impossible escape this week.

(5) Are we looking at a second double eviction? I can never keep CBS' end-of-the-BB-season schedule straight enough to know if we are on schedule for a typical end game

(6) HOH this week has to be questions... I am thinking it is 7 questions, most points at the end of 7 wins with a "guess the number" tie-breaker if necessary. Additionally, I think the vetoes from here on out favor Rachel and Porsche (which will make for a great power struggle ending to the season). OTEV is physical and they seem to me to be best equipped for that, although there is a lot of luck needed to win that as well... the Morph-O-Matic is overdue and I think Jordan is in the mix for a win there as well... I don't like Adam or Kalia's chances there... the final 4 veto is a crazy mixture of endurance/questions/puzzles/skills that clearly favors Rachel or Porsche...

(7) My Hopes; Shelly is evicted this week, Jordan wins a questions HOH and nominates Kalia/Porsche, with Kalia going home. I am hoping Adam wins the next HOH and is forced to decide between Kalia (who he does not want to go to the end with) and Rachel/Jordan who saved him just this week... ultimately I think the POV heavily favors Rachel and she will vote to evict Porsche... although Porsche has a great shot at this type of final 4-veto comp and it could make for an interesting choice between Jordan (a past winner and, although appearing non-threatening, has made it to the end for 2 seasons and has to be doing something right) and Rachel (who Porsche believes is safer in the final 2 but whom she would hate to remain in the house when the numbers are fading fast! Ultimately, I believe we are looking at either Rachel or Jordan for sure in the final two along side Porsche or Adam, but to be honest, I think R/J have a shot to make it to F2 together (or maybe that is just wishful thinking).

I could go on forever, but I'll spare you! ;-)

August 29, 2011 at 3:06 PM  
Anonymous Juniper said...

Excellent article by Ragan on Shelly Hate:
http://ragan.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/your-hate-is-not-the-measure-of-shelly%E2%80%99s-character-it%E2%80%99s-the-measure-of-your-own/

August 29, 2011 at 3:14 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

Oh, and I was inspired to purchase Biore Strips and am sitting here now hoping my strip isn't akin to that of Adam's last night!

August 29, 2011 at 3:21 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Juniper: Great link to that article! I especially find the Confirmation Bias part very applicable... I can't even tell you how many times I have condemned a HG only to realize that had my favorite HG done it, I would have been happy as a clam. Say what you want about Shelly, her strategic game has been impeccable up until it caught up with her this week. We can't hate it just because it may not be our favorite HG with that strategy.

August 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM  
Anonymous Juniper said...

Stephen Ritchie:

Ragan did an excellent job of making us ALL look in the mirror at what pushes our buttons and why about a HG.

I cannot imagine being in that house...I am sure the stress and paranoia is overwhelming....I just hope that EVERY HG is treated with respect when the game ends.

August 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM  
Blogger Jim H said...

I was bored at a meeting today so i decided I would calculate the odds of each houseguest making it to the final 3. It was a convulted model I created, very complicated and the person next to me thought I was working on some great applied math problem (I have a background in applied math) and seemed impressed. Here's my odds that a hg makes it to the final 3 based on the assumption that Shelly is gone this week. I also assumed that HGs have equal chances of winning competitions to make what is a complicated combinatorial problem less complicated.

I took into account that Adam prefers Porsce or would honor his final 2 deal. I took into account that Kalia would honor her deal with Jordan up to a point (she won't nominate Porsche). This was before the sorta F2 deal Jordan just made with Adam but I considered that she would do this anyway. So without further ado, here are the odds - take 'em to Vegas:

Adam 3-1
Jordan 4-1
Porche 4-1
Kalia 5-1
Rachel 5-1

My analysis also suggested that there's a good chance Adam stays in the house regardless of whether he wins HoH or PoV next week so he's monologue is kind of wrong.

August 29, 2011 at 4:04 PM  
Blogger ceemurph said...

@ Juniper

Really? Have you heard BRJJ say anything as bad as Porche's save-Brendan-$400-on-an-abortion comment? If you heard something the rest of us didn't, please quote it so we can change our minds abut them. The nasty comments from these girls are out of control.

Caro, if this post is too negative I totally understand if you don't feel like posting it.

August 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM  
Blogger jane said...

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August 29, 2011 at 4:11 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Perhaps if these girls, Porsche and Kalia, had done more in the early part of the game they wouldn't be scrambling so much at the end. Snooze, literally, you lose I guess.

August 29, 2011 at 4:13 PM  
Blogger jane said...

I read Ragan's article. While I agree with it, I can't help finding it a bit ironic. There were some bigoted things Ragan said last season about people in the real world, not house guests (or game), that I found abhorrent. I emailed him about this, in a professional capacity, as an advocate for this particular group. He claimed he responded to all emails. Heard nothing back from him.

None of us are flawless. My disgust was only in part about what he said. It was also not taking responsibility for it. So, although he writes well and I certainly don't disagree with his argument. Sometimes the source matters.

Just as a preemptive strike ... yes it is totally appropriate to discuss this here. He wrote a public article about this game, this season. Commentary on that is the clear and intended result.

August 29, 2011 at 4:26 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

OK.. my transcribing brain has melted.. We'll see if it can be revived.. but I haven't had the time to even say hi today, and i mean to rectify that..

August 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM  
Blogger K-Mac said...

re: Ragan's Article - at the end he says "Shelly's only crime in the BB house is not owning up to her lies in the DR" This my friends is SO TRUE!

Think of Dr. Will, lie after lie, betrayal after betrayal and most of us found it funny, admirable, think of him as one of the greatest BB players ever. Had Shelly just owned her game play in the DR, we might feel differently about her. Although, being younger, more attractive and more comedic like Dr. Will might help as well. Not saying these are faults, but you have to admit that's how it is. If Britney had been horrid looking and older she might not have been as well received either.

Thoughts anyone?

August 29, 2011 at 4:34 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Deeder! :) Hehehe! Lemme know about what I wrote back on fb..

Hi Michigan Man! :) "Game talk all the time. Don't they ever stop?" --NO!

Hi Andrea! :) Here's hoping. I bet her symptoms clear up now that she's no longer worrying about it.

Hi Crisi! :) hehe! Thanks! oooh! Good point about Dani telling Brendon.. I wonder.

Hi Pam!! :) Thank you!

Hi MaresMya :) It works! I'm glad to see you commenting!

Hi OH Steph IO :) indeed.. thanks for the input :)

Hi Anon - It's actually true. All points of view are welcome, and I work very hard to make sure no one feels attacked. Further, tread lightly when making racial accusations around here. You know not of which you speak. Also, make a name.

Hi Michelle! :) MWAH!!!!!!

Hi Pyke :) I think you actually are referring to something Genie transcribed, but if you ever want me to look at something, please include a time/date/feed number. ;)


Hi Patti! :) Well, fingers crossed this one was accurate. :)


Hi Johnny5! :) Thanks for reminding me to comment on the above..

Hi MissLissa! :) hehehe!

Hi KMac! :) Agreed it's not our business, but I'd be remiss to exclude it, since it's been the talk..


Hi CeeMurph! :)

Hi Lilmari215! :)

Hi Anne - Hear! Hear!! I've been thinking that for days.

Hi Chris! :) Rachel 2.0 is quite the treat. :)

Hi Rosaritoe! :) :) What a nice thought!

August 29, 2011 at 4:44 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Carolyn: I have my eye on the backyard, just a lot of small talk. If Kalia/Porsche/Adam aren't plotting inside, I vote for... Come hang with us, come hang with us!

August 29, 2011 at 4:47 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Juniper :) Well, people have different opinion about people. Doesn't make either side right.. just means people like different people.. As long as people can keep it civil, they're welcome to state either way.

Hi FL Girl :)

Hi Cisco :) Who'd ya play for??

Hi Stephen!! :) I hope you're having a wonderful time traveling!!


Hi Jim H! :) hahaha! Nice! We shall see...


Hey Jane :) Ditto on the alcohol.. and yes, there was.. but i've never mentioned her name here.

August 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

@Carolyn: The rest of my trip involves complete wireless access... expect no more prolonged absences! :-)

August 29, 2011 at 4:52 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

yay! :)

August 29, 2011 at 4:52 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

Oh, and in regards to suing on a show like Big Brother. I do not know the CA law, but generally the waivers on these shows are extensive and anything short of intentional or highly reckless cause of harm will be protected against... certain things, although waived, may be "unconscionable" and not enforceable by a court but I would not bet on a single individual when up against the corporate team at CBS, I'm sure their documents are air tight.

August 29, 2011 at 4:57 PM  
Blogger Grendon said...

This is VERY long-I'm sorry. I've just been thinking a lot about the Shelly situation.

I was thinking about Shelly last night. Trying to figure out what makes her tick and where everything went so terribly wrong. This is only my opinion so I could be completely off base.

1. Shelly seems to be very regimented and disciplined. From the way she obsesses about having everything in the house spotless to her belief that there is a time and place for everything. There is no room for tears or hurt feelings in a game. I get this impression not only from the way she acts, but from the conversation about having a no-crying policy for her daughter.

2. Shelly is very smart. But some people score high on the IQ test for one side of their brain and maybe only average for the other side.

Shelly's intelligence seems to be more in the area of the brain that is good with facts and numbers. Everything is cut and dried. You can come up with a rationalization for every action and what the reaction should be. Two plus two always equals four. It's either right or wrong and their is no inbetween, no other way of looking at the situation.

The other side of the brain is more about being creative and has more to do with basing things on mood, emotion and imagination. It's not black or white, it's usually a shade of grey.

3. Shelly is a huge fan of the show. She watches all the seasons, knows who the different cast members are, watches the feeds and reads the updates. She has seen the people who were strategically great manipulators. The EDs, Ronnies and Matts. She also knows that a lot of people who seemed like rivals on the show have left with no hard feelings at the end. I think she believes that once the season ends anything she did in the house will be forgiven.

Shelly probably thought that because she is intelligent she could be as strategically manipulative as someone like Matt and that at the end of the season she would get kudos for good gameplay. The problem is that she developed real relationships causing the strategic manipulation to become emotional manipulation.

When people have gotten back doored, voted out, lied to or outplayed in the past it was easier to get over because disappointment or anger are usually quick to fade. Hurt leaves a bit of a scar. Whether Shelly realizes it or not, she hurt people.

I think what is happening now, and what she is going to have to deal with when she leaves is terrible. But the only way people are going to believe she is sincere about being sorry (not for the game move, but for the pain it caused to the people she called friends) is if she simply says, "I'm sorry."

It can't be I'm sorry BUT. It can't be an apology followed by a justification or a rationalization. You can't rationalize pain or justify causing pain.

Shelly doesn't owe the viewers an apology. She doesn't technically owe anyone an apology if she feels o.k. with the choices she has made. But if Jeff and Jordon are genuinely important to her it would be a good start. And because the people out here in the real world are aware of the backlash I would love to see a real apology. For no other reason than the fact that I think it would help people start viewing her differently so she is not completely blindsided when she walks out that door.

August 29, 2011 at 5:07 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

Hi Carolyn!

Good for Rachel to get an answer.

August 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi MsFitz! :))) Right?!

August 29, 2011 at 5:12 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi MsFitz! :))) Right?!

August 29, 2011 at 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Juniper said...

Hiya Carolyn:)

I agree, we all see the HG differently and for me personally, I usually fall in the middle with HG I like and don't like on either side.

ceemurph: No one condones Porsche's bad attempt at a joke (which in reality Adam was wondering if the comp would be something like throwing a medicine ball at your stomach which left a perfect opportunity for Porsche to attempt to joke about Rachel and was most definitively in extreme poor taste and something most of us would not have said).

No one actually thinks that Jeff is LITERALLY going to KILL Dani in Jury even though Jordan has said Jeff is going to KILL her many times.

The thing is, I am not a Kalia and Porsche fan. I just think we see and accept what we want to...DEPENDING who says it and does it.

At this point..I would love to see Shelly go this week. Kalia win HOH, get Rachel out and Kalia go right behind her to Jury.

I wouldn't even mind seeing Jordan win again, although I really want Adam to push his way to the final 2..and win..he has shown himself to be, by far, the most level headed HG this year.IMO

August 29, 2011 at 5:12 PM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

Hi Caro and all my other BB Buddies.

Caro I'm so excited, I just went to your web site and purchased 4 of your large mugs with you photo for me and 3 of my BB buddies here at home. They look so nice as well as the other things you have out there, i.e., shirts, etc.

My friends will all love them as I have introduced them to your blog thru the years. They haven't bloggged yet but have bought the feeds thru you and check it constantly.

You and Genie put everyting into perspective for us and I love the little comments you add.

Thanks for everything.

August 29, 2011 at 5:18 PM  
Blogger patti said...

@Stephen Ritchie:
I've missed you! Love your posts. Welcome home. ;)~

August 29, 2011 at 5:19 PM  
Blogger Kscooterfox said...

Hi Caro! I apologize for not commenting earlier in the day but i have good reason, i slept till 5! apparently I needed it because lately I've been staying up way too late and get up at 6:30 to get lil man up for school.
Yay! I won a mug! Thank you for picking me and my comment!
last night i laughed so hard when Shelly blatenly lied to Kahlia and Porsche and they finally had the brains to figure it out! That was a priceless moment on Big Brother in my opinion!
It's good news about Rachel, however those store bought pregnancy tests aren't always accurate! Big Brother should do a blood test to make sure before they give her alcohol or before she does something that could hurt her and she turn around and sue, because i have a feeling that she would at least try.
And about Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, before I would trust him again he would have to prove himself! He has been flaky so far about switching sides back an forth and saying his alliance with jeff an Jordon was fake. I'm thinking he needs to win hoh and not just talk about it.
Porsche has gotten a little too big for her britches, and not just in size! Her snarky attitude since winning HOH isn't very becoming to her! Don't know if she's really like that or if Kahlia's and Dani's hateful attitudes have rubbed off on her!
I have always believed that if you do good deeds then good things will come to you, and that's what I believe for Jordon. I will be elated if she wins again. She has done nothing bad this whole game but be a good person. Even tho she hasn't won much, she's still done good. Being snarky, or a liar, or a flip flopper doesn't make you a good player!

August 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM  
Blogger MnM in Illinois said...

Am I gonna need a dictionary & encyclopedia tonight?

August 29, 2011 at 5:22 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi MnM :) Huh? What for?

Hiya Grendon :)


Hi Patti :)

Hi ShiShi :) Yayyy!! Thanks so much! I'm glad you like!! I hope your friends do too!

Hi Juniper :)

August 29, 2011 at 5:26 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

Hi Patti! :-)

August 29, 2011 at 5:29 PM  
Blogger Tiffany-JadeDarkStar said...

thank you for posting the site ragan made good points. and i can not belive there are ppl saying shelly abuses her daughter, just so wrong i pry for all of those in the house an out an there family's that nothing bad happens. and yes i remember last year ppl wishing brit had been in the house when it burned another horrible thing. I am glade other bb hg are writing things up to fight the hate ty all

August 29, 2011 at 5:30 PM  
Blogger Wendy said...

I like this focused, exercising, salad eating, happy Jordan and Rachel. The others are just laying around most of the time but not these two. I sure hope all this focus will result in a HOH for one or both of them!

August 29, 2011 at 5:32 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Wendy! :)

Hi Tiffany! :)

Hiya KScoot :) Congrats you! Will you please message me on facebook with your addy?

August 29, 2011 at 5:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was going to post a comment for the first time, but after reading these extremely long ones, I have decided not to, mine wouldn't come close in comparison to detail! I just have this to say: Shelly may be a good person out of the house, but we as viewers don't know that. She has left the impression of a very bad person and liar that can't be trusted, that is the person that we see and know. Grendon, do you know her personally?

RONI

August 29, 2011 at 5:37 PM  
Blogger Wendy said...

Hi Caro! You are doing an amazing job. Thank you so much!!!

August 29, 2011 at 5:37 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Roni! :) Don't be intimidated by size or length. ;)

Thanks, Wendy! :) I'm definitely on the down side of reporting right now. The 2am BBT wake up... I'm feeling it.

August 29, 2011 at 5:40 PM  
Anonymous Juniper said...

Carolyn,

The first thought that popped in my head when you wrote this:

Hi Roni! :) Don't be intimidated by size or length. ;)

That's what she said:))

Is that a sign of BB overload..lol

August 29, 2011 at 5:42 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Juniper - hahaha! :)

Hi Jean :) I've been wondering that myself. They typically have a shortened week near the end.. At the moment there are definitely more bodies in there than time left to evict them otherwise.

August 29, 2011 at 5:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carolyn: regarding your comment back, if I were Kahlia, I would totally agree with you! From all of her sex talks on the feeds, she compares length and details! Thank you!

Roni

August 29, 2011 at 5:46 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Roni - hahahaha!

August 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM  
Blogger Kscooterfox said...

Shelly is really getting busted now big time!

August 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM  
Blogger Sparklin said...

Hello everyone ~ I'm exhausted from my first full day back at work ~ ugh!

I glanced through the comments after greedily reading every word of the blog :) ~ again and forever...thank you, thank you!!

I just wanted to say that while all the houseguests lie and trash talk others, it's the extent of and the depth of their comments. Jeff said the other night to Jordan regarding Porsche - "I hate her" but he immediately said "well, hate is a strong word, but I..." When Kalia talks about Rachels body, I don't care, but when Porsche wishes her harm, I care. When it is a constant, when it is so vile, when there is no remorse, I take issue, I can't help it.
There was no game play involved, there is just malice and a nasty mean streak that I can't comprehend, so don't like. The worst thing I have heard from Jordan was that Dani wore too much makeup - ohhhh! :)

August 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi Sparklin! :)

August 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Anon RONI

No, I don't know Shelly thus the part "only my opinion and I could be completely off base."

I know some things from listening to conversations in the house. I am also not defending her. I have been incredibly critical-long before she went against J&J. I'm just trying to figure out if there is something that makes her behave that way and if she really is not aware of how bad she looks to the people watching.

August 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM  
Blogger David B said...

haven't been on the feeds since friday afternoon....its so nice to be back!!

August 29, 2011 at 5:53 PM  
Anonymous AnnieB said...

@K-Mac...I don't have a problem with how Shelly is playing her game and I am a JeJo fan. What I find so repulsive is how from week 1 she has constantly talked about how she plays so honorably and puts herself on this ethical pedastal. It drives me nuts. I just want her to make the moves she feels she needs to make and own it. I don't know if she is delusional, pathological or what. And then to hear her talk about how she has no respect for people that play the game without honor. What?!? The thing with Dr. Will was that he told you right to your face that he was going to lie to you. So whatever you let happen to you after that was really your own fault. I just hate seeing Shelly talk about the other houseguests and their "dishonorable" game play. Welcome to Big Brother, Shelly....guess what ~ you're not above it either, so please stop insisting that you are.

August 29, 2011 at 5:54 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hi David B :) Welcome Back! :))

Hi AnnieB! :)

August 29, 2011 at 5:57 PM  
Blogger lscott said...

i think shelly's downfall was in a way due to how she was successful in her carreer. you can stretch the truth and manipulate people to obtain desired results in business as you are only "selling" over a short duration of time. locked in the BB house over time is completely another story, as you are "selling" to multiple audiences who eventually compare notes.

bottom line, if she is wonderful deep down why has she still not returned rachels dog?

August 29, 2011 at 6:11 PM  
Blogger Stephen Ritchie said...

If I have learned one thing in 13 seasons, it is that nothing brings people together like a common enemy... This backyard session is just slam after slam, and they just seem to like each other more with each ZIIINNGGG.

August 29, 2011 at 6:14 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Hey Everyone :)

Thank you for another great day here on BBDish!

I'm on my own on the blog until Friday, so I've gotta pace myself...

I'm hitting the sack.

I'll be back bright and early with the Overnight Report.

Enjoy the live feeds tonight! :0)

August 29, 2011 at 6:15 PM  
Anonymous Jean said...

Thank you Carolyn. According to the TV Guide BB will not be seen at all on the 11th. because of so many specials. I read this every day, every report. Please let me know something if you find out. CBS can't let it end without showing us what happened. I can only hope they will extend it to let us all see what happens.

August 29, 2011 at 6:19 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

6:41pm BBT

Shelly-Fest 2011 comes to an end when Shelly walks out the door.

August 29, 2011 at 6:44 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

10:07pm BBT Feeds 3/4

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Rachel is asking Jordan if it would be better to keep Shelly because she will be a bigger target in front of them. SMH

August 29, 2011 at 7:10 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

If only Adam and Rachel had a better relationship this wouldn't even be thought about.

They always over think these things. I wonder if this another DR directed conversation. Rachel hasn't been to DR in awhile though so who knows.

August 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

jane - yup

August 29, 2011 at 7:54 PM  
Blogger Heynewgirl said...

Rachel's Scare....
So remember Rachel complaining at the skiing comp that she had cramps? What was that, The 3rd or so week of July? She has to be better at math then that.

August 29, 2011 at 8:05 PM  
Anonymous Cindy Q. said...

I think Rachel is just stressed and she is telling everyone she is pregnant just to get attention. She's always wanted attention and drama from day 1.

Even though I miss Dani & Dom, I am still rooting for the newbies... Porsche & Kalia. The vets had their chance and Jordan has already won.

August 29, 2011 at 8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Dish Ladies!

"The only thing necessary for evil to flourish, is for good men to do nothing." Edward Burke

Please give me the benefit of reading it, even though it seems long, ok? (I don't expect you to post it, but please read it. It took some time to put together.)

My comment never did post, and I was very careful about not bashing anybody. I provided specific facts about the game to try to stem the tide of non-JJ personal insults. I addressed how those can lead to crazy people feeling validated, so maybe specifics can highlight my concerns for you better, seeing it all together here.

You wrote:
"Do people vent here? Sure... Do I publish vile attacks on any HG? Never."

I have compiled this list of comments, which are only a small sample of such. I really want to know from you, having moderated previous to posting them, how these are not "vile attacks" when not one of them comments on Shelly's gameplay, but instead all attack her personally. How are these not inflammatory?

"i'm sorry, but really, calling shelly the b word is not close to what she is."

"Shelly, Has got to be the MOST horrible person to walk this planet. No Morals!!"

"I hope Shelly's daughter sees this and learns not who to be."

"Shelly has really shown her true colors big time. What a loser and LIAR! I hope she is out next. I feel blessed I never have to know Shelly."

"Shelly is despicable."

"Thank God Shelly's husband Tony is a stay-at-home dad so Josie doesn't have her as a day-to-day role model."

"Shelly is trash is my eyes.....here family should be ashamed of her actions."

"And as a mom, I worry about Shelly's daughter. I hope she isn't being bullied or harassed because of her mom's behavior. It's sad to think Josie may lose friends. And Shelly may lose the respect of the people around her because of her behavior on a show."

"Shelly!! It should make everyone in her life question their affiliation with her when she can manipulate so well."

"Makes me question on what kind of friend she is outside the house... "

And lastly, one of your own:
"Now be a decent human and give her back her stuffed dog." 
Come now, a "decent human"? That's a bit far-fetched for such a childish prank, don't ya think? I mean, I love my teddy bear, but I'd hardly think somebody was not decent to cop it for a while. Frankly, I would have just taken Shelly's and ransomed it for mine.

And while I totally understand that you want to distance yourself from the crazy people that actually are acting out on this kind of personal vitriol, the fact is that if you condone it here, and are publishing it here, you make those crazy people believe you agree with such an attitude, no matter how much you say it is not true.  Seeing them together, I hope you can see what I do, and maybe would be a little more discerning about what gets published, considering what has happened.

I am a lesbian who has been physically attacked by neo-nazis with my Jewish girlfriend. I know all about this kind of thing.

Thank you for reading this. I am hoping for a response, but not optimistic.
That's my two cents's worth, a.k.a.: gottamove at mindspring dot com

P.S. It might help to think of it in terms of my favorite defensive football player for the Atlanta Falcons, Abraham, sacking the quarterback. He would never knock someone to the ground outside of the game, and he is likely a good friend of every quarterback he plays against. But nobody is gonna accuse him of being evil, or not being a decent human because of it

August 29, 2011 at 8:49 PM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

I have to say I am liking the comment sections today so much more without the constant negativity. I don't know if Carolyn is protecting us more (as she always shields us from the worst, and we love her for that among so many other reasons) or if we have become a kinder, gentler bunch after the word has come out about what others are doing regarding Shelly and her family.

I suspect it is some of both, but whichever reason is stronger, I appreciate it. No one should be subjected to the hate that has been spewed. I haven't read Ragan's take on all this but I have the tab open and will get to it later tonight.

I so agree with those who have brought up the difference in treatment of HG's we have seen this season but I can't agree it is because of the DR sessions we have been shown.

DR Sessions are something I was going to address in a GaYToRial that I have since decided should go unpublished.

I do want to talk about DR Sessions though, just not as in-depth as I was going to be in my GaYToRial. Like everything else we see coming from CBS and AGP those DR snippets can be very skewed. It's always up to production to have us see what they want us to see. To me it's very obvious by the poorly spliced edits. Some things are taken as truth when we know a session lasts much longer than the 20 seconds or so we are actually shown.

Like everything else about the show, a Diary Room 'confession' is skewed to make for 'great TV' which rarely equates with the truth.

Also as a few have pointed out, but not in the words I choose, males vs. females edits are quite different from what might be the truth, and sadly, we seem to buy into that. Were a man to do things that Shelly has done it's always been more acceptable because a male is supposed to be more verbose in negativity, due to testosterone levels I suspect, and gets a pass for being so. I don't think I need to make a list of the males of BB (pick a season) that are applauded for their nastiness in the way they play their game vs. a woman who might play similarly.

I'm generalizing here and probably more than I should but I think because Shelly is not a feminine woman, nor is she young or beautiful in the way we look at those traits, it makes it easier to put her in the 'hate' column vs. the 'like' column we all place our HG's in every season.

Sadly her age and looks have made her an easy target for the former.

I admit I am a Shelly fan proudly and if you were to look back at all my posts of this season it hasn't always been that way. I wanted her to be on my good list from pre-show interviews but she almost never made it there.

I could go on with this post for pages and pages but hopefully somewhere within my ramblings, those who read it understand my point.

At this point I just want this season to be over and I want AGP to rethink ever mixing former HGs with new HGs ever again. Leave the mixing to shows such as Survivor, Bachelor, Bachelorette, and the like.

:o)

August 29, 2011 at 9:10 PM  
Anonymous catlovernina said...

Carolyn,I wonder how production is going to handle the news about the death threats to Shelly's family! Do you Know anything about this?

August 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding Shelly : If someone tells you they have integrity, their honorable, and decent for now real apparent reason they just bring it up. Be Leary. It is usually just the opposite. I would never hire someone who says to me in an interview " I'm a hard worker, a fast learner or that I'm loyal. Because there is a 99.99% chance it is the opposite.

August 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sure this won't get posted..don't count Shelly out will there is an active twist in game.. there is a reason the cam showed that golden coin and the talking fortune teller .
it a vote to stay in the house.
2 to 2 bye bye bye Adam..
pretty sure your talk to about some other post i can not get name my laptop gives errors every time i try..

August 29, 2011 at 11:50 PM  
Blogger O-H Steph I-O said...

It's 4:16 am and this is the first chance I've had in almost 12 hours (and 4 hours left to go) to check in on BB. Anything good happen in the house? Just a bunch of unhappy babies here, lol

August 30, 2011 at 1:19 AM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

-I'm so tired of Jordan's mean-spirited talk about Dani. She's out of the house. Let it go! Dani was not a bit more dishonest than Jeff and Jordan. The only difference is Dani wasn't a phony about it. She never talked about her so called "big heart" or "integrity" and "character" or called herself an "angel on earth". I mean c'mon! Define angel. Does it mean b*tchy cretin? No? Well then you're no angel Jordan.

-Also, she needs to quit bringing up that phone call. She basically forced it on Shelly and took the veto when Shelly was on the block. Jordan always fails to factor in the 24 hours of solitary confinement and slop when she's busy throwing it in Shelly's face.

-The only reason Jordan and Jeff felt so betrayed by Shelly was that they were the only ones stupid and vain enough to think someone would want to push them AND Rachel to the end. Self-interest is the name of the game. You'd think the vets would know that at the very least. I'm not a Shelly fan by any stretch of the imagination, but currently I'm far more repulsed by Jordan.

-I agree with Juniper. It seems to me that this site is skewed toward Jeff and Jordan fans. That's fine, but it would be nice if some of the meanness that Jeff and Jordan spewed would be acknowledged. I recall plenty of instances when Jeff referred to other houseguests as "f--king losers" and obviously Jordan referred to Dani as a "dumb b-tch" and a "f--king whore" during her tantrum. Dani, Porsche and Kalia were clearly not the only mean ones in the house.

I don't know...This is probably the most pathetic final six in BB history, but so long as Jordan or Adam don't win it might work out okay...

August 30, 2011 at 1:21 AM  
Blogger Toni said...

Shirley said:

I recall plenty of instances when Jeff referred to other houseguests as "f--king losers" and obviously Jordan referred to Dani as a "dumb b-tch" and a "f--king whore" during her tantrum.

Can you please provide the date, time, and camera where Jordan referred to Dani as a "dumb b-tch" and a "f--king whore"?

Also, just to be clear, Jordan never referred to herself as an "angel on earth", her boyfriend did and that is solely his opinion.

This is getting old. Quick.

August 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Deep breaths, everyone.. :)

Rather than rehashing everyone's faults, Let's start fresh on the Overnight Report, ok?

Happy Tuesday! :)

(said the sweaty blogger, fresh from the elliptical... start checking for TOR at around 6-6:30am bbt)

August 30, 2011 at 4:17 AM  
Blogger NikkiP44 said...

Good morning all bbdishers! Many in our family are still dealing with the after effects of hurricane Irene so the HGs machinations are taking a backseat.
Pace yourself Carolyn. It will continue to be a bumpy week! I appreciate all of your dedication and finger cramping efforts, as well as Genie and the enthusiastic bbdishers.

August 30, 2011 at 4:58 AM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

@Toni go to August 25th at about 7:07 BBT. It's immediately following her tacky shouting match with Shelly. She doesn't say "f--king whore" but she does say, "fucking wears too eye make-up" then proceeds to call Dani a whore. My point is Dani never said anything about Jordan that was even remotely as appalling or personal. I could understand if those words came from Rachel, I mean, fair is fair, but not Jordan. It was completely unwarranted.

Yes, Jeff was the one who referred to Jordan as the "angel on Earth", but she buys into it which is just as bad. I just can't stand what delusional hypocrites they seem to be.

This is just my opinion and obviously everyone is entitled to their own.

August 30, 2011 at 7:40 AM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

@Toni It was on camera 1 & 2.

August 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Shirley!!! ditto!! finally.

August 30, 2011 at 12:36 PM  

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