Sunday Show Viewing Party
Good evening, BB Lovers! Welcome to the Sunday Show Viewing Party on BBDish! I hope you've all had a Superb Sanity Sunday!
Live feed viewers, it's time to Rewind your Minds! Allllll the way back to Friday with the Have Have Not Comp and Nominations, because that's what the tv only folks are going to see tonight. So much has happened since, it seems about a decade ago, but that's the way this works.
Some day I may understand why anyone would be a tv only when the live feeds tell the whole story and cost next to nothing.. Probably not.
Here are some visual aides to help with the Mind Rewind. ;-) First we have the post nomination ceremony awkward hug fest..
Immediately followed by the far more truthful silent dance party in the Storage Room..
...and of course, the Victory Celebration up in HoH, led by Helen.
I'm already wondering how Aaryn's likely ReNom of Candice is going to be framed for the TV Only audience.. Aaryn is too. I wonder if the fear of that may effect Aaryn's choice of who to put up in Spencer's place. We'll know for certain tomorrow after the Veto Ceremony.
While putting Candice on the block as the renom makes perfect sense gamewise, it could get pretty ugly. As the only HG who's been outed on tv for repeated racist comments, the backlash from the non-BB media for Aaryn having both Howard and Candice on the block simultaneously is a predictable powder keg just waiting to go off..
On Wednesday night or Thursday, when they find out about it.
But.. I'm getting way ahead of the Sunday Show. Think Nominations.. Think Have Have Not.. Think Diary Room Sessions..
I'd bet on the Howard - Candice relationship getting significant airtime too. It'll build sympathy, and frankly, if that footage isn't put into play over the next couple nights, it may go to waste.
OK.. I've yammered on long enough.
You know the deal! Join us in the comment section! Chances are, the very thing you're looking for is right there!
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 4:48 PM
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Happy Sunday Show!!!
Thank you for being a part of BBDish!
Looking for these??
Option A
Option B
Have at em!
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Happy Sunday Show!!!!
Good Evening Carolyn, all
Helen's been hanging around GM to long, she said Googleable.
Hi Michigan Man!! Thank you for the amazing updates last night in the PoV SPoiler Post comments!!
hi all!
You are very welcome. I think that's the longest I've listened to Candice all season. When she gets a hold of an idea she doesn't let go for nothing.
Hi Carolyn! Hi Dishers!! Boy did I miss the dish today!!
Hey Carolyn. I made it! Thanks Michigan Man for the updates. I'm always up watching with you especially wed thru sat nights when I don't have to work.
Thanks Michigan Man, for all of your great updates! I love this blog!!
I'll be the Wal-Mart Greeter.
Hi You <-- (insert your name here)
YaY! The doors have opened. I came early to get a good seat and so I can lead the boos and throw popcorn at the TV.
Glad you took a day off Mistress of the Dish and I'm sure you enjoyed it. What naughty things did you do? You can tell us. This is like the BB DR. Nothing goes anywhere when you tell us your secrets. :p
Time to kick back and watch the show.
I've decided I don't like any of them this year. They should all be nominated for eviction and it could be a 12-way tie. buh-bye.
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GaYToR
Happy Sunday show :)
Good evening Carolyn **Moochies**
Good evening to all my fellow BB fanatics :)
Happy Sunday Show!!
Hi DavidB!! :))
Hi Helene from NJ! :) Thank you!
Michigan Man - don't I know it!
Hi ShiShi!! :) HUGGGGS!!!
Evening Carolyn and friends.
Happy Sunday show everyone!
As of this posting, I think this is the first time I will not care one bit who is in the final of BB.
McCrae-The romance with Amanda seems to be bringing out the worst in his personality. Im hoping he can redeem himself soon or that Amanda is voted out way before the end so he can play on his own.
Jessie-She hasnt done much in the game and hasnt impressed me at all, but im hoping she will come into her own soon.
Andy-Another floater in my opinion but he definately keeps his irons in the fire.....everyones fire. Hes on my radar but I still dont know what I feel, and that alone sounds an alarm in my head.
Helen--Leaves me confused, switching back and forth, in and out and she does talk too much to too many people. She and Andy strike me as slightly different figures cut from the same cloth.
Elissa--I wanted her to have a fair shake at the game, but shes left me feeling like I wasted my votes for her in the long run. The more I see her the more "phony" she comes off. The Reilly sisters both leave me wondering if they are purposely being disingenuous or if its just the way they look and sound that makes me feel that way.
Judd--Hmmm, he didnt begin to come off to me as anyone Id root for in the game until just before he became HOH. Dont know if its a problem with meds or what....but he turned a little bit too quickly for me to believe the buildup of any drugs were completely out of his system that fast. And now I question, if this is the REAL Judd.
Candice--Started out as someone I had no opinion about for maybe the first ten days. By the time I was paying attention she seemed to have a clue about what was going on in the house, but then quickly lost it once Howard began paying her attention. Id like to see her play without him around to distract her.
Ginamarie--What is there to say?
Spencer--I have words...but this probably wouldnt be published if I used them.
Howard--Many reasons why this guy does not impress me. It disgusts me when anyone uses another person, but I admit I really hate it when a man uses a woman. Candice states shes old enuf to know better, but I am 47 myself and Ive been around women older than me. I know how the heart overrides the brain. The things Ive heard about Howard in regard to dog fighting however cinched the deal for me. Children and animals....you dont abuse or contribute in ANY way to their abuse. I despise anyone that doesnt value their lives.
Amanda--I appreciate a strong woman as I consider myself to be one. She is very demanding and pushy, but I was willing to
overlook that bcos I felt she was at least playing the game from the position of someone without true "power". But shes made a few too many statements, whether in jest or not doesnt matter, that depict her deepest feelings in my humble opinion. In any event, I can no longer stand behind her. Say "im just kidding" all you want.....if you keep saying something enuf I know that you arent.
Aaryn--She has at least calmed it down a bit. I hope that she does learn something from this experience but im not convinced she will. She seems to hear, but still feels shes right and hasnt done anything wrong. You have to admit that you have a problem before you can set about finding a cure for it.
I know this game brings out the worst, and on occassion the best, in people. I cant pretend that I wouldnt go off on someone and say or do things I normally wouldnt. But I know that if something wasnt already inside of me, if I admit to it or not, nothing could force me to become someone that im not. Change like that often takes years. The game amplifies...but Im not sure it substantiates a personality trait that you dont have. Theres no doubt that a rare few CAN play the game completely outside of who they are, but that in and of itself is a scary thing.
Thanks for allowing me to vent Carolyn! :D
Getting a little tired of Candice and her :It is what it is...
Yes. Thanks MM for the great updates. I listened to them but couldn't bring myself to type about them.
They're even boring now WITH booze. Another BB first.
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GaYToR
Between Helen and Candice last night my poor ears were bleeding!
Happy viewing party Caro and all the other dishers.
I seem to be on bb schedule when it comes to sleeping. I did finally wake up today after 1pm. Bless Mac, he just let me sleep until he was really hungry and had to go out.
Now he's out in the kitchen smelling the cranberry orange muffins I just baked. I'll be taking some with me for my chemo tomorrow but if anyone wants one just holler.
Ok now we must rewind and watch the critters do some comps.
I hope you had a wonderful sanity Sunday, Carolyn!
I have to get the kids into bed, so tonight's show will be watched later this evening, along with a glass of Riesling. ;-)
Enjoy, everyone!!
Hey heyy everyone! I'm working so I won't see it til about midnight but yall enjoy! And yes, thanks Michigan Man. That was a big help with no OR to turn to!
I still think Amanda is much more dangerous, game wise, than Howard. Unless Spencer works some magic, with the votes, you are going to lose your eye candy. :-)
There was a Blue sighting today in Twitter but I wasn't looking at the time. I only saw his footprints. Looked like stilettos to me.
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GaYToR
Caro are you still in your romance from last year? Haven't heard you mention it this year.
Happy Sunday Show!!
Hi GayTor!! LOL! I can just imagine it.. Walmart greeter.. I saw Blue too! :0)
Hi Vana!! :) Really? I'm already pretty attached to a couple of em.
Hi Andrea! :) Smooch!!
Hi Greg!! :)
Hi Melanie! :)) THank you! I'll take one!
Hi Tripl! :) Hugsss!! & Healing vibes!
Hi Paddy! :)) I've been thinking about that..
Hi Marla! :)
Hi Carolyn -- Sorry for no updates last night. I flaked out on you. When the feeds went to no signal, I went to bed and fell fast asleep. Hope you got some rest and enjoyed it as much as I did!
ShiShi - We're still friends.. but.. meh.
Hi Everyone
Question-What constitutes a good game? I suppose if you can play everyone in the house and make it to final 2 then maybe you deserve to win. However, at this point, I would be happy to see anyone but Helen win. I would actually be fine bringing David back in for the last week and letting him snatch one of the final 2 chairs from Helen.
Here we goooo!!!
Hey Carolyn!!
Happy Sunday Nomination Show!! :D
Carolyn -- Sorry for no updates last night. Went to bed when the feeds went down and fell fast asleep. Hope you got some rest and enjoyed it as much as I did. Thanks for all you do!
Good evening Carolyn and everybody!
Hello Carlyn and fellow dishers,
I haven't had the opportunity to be with y'all during showtimes this year so I'm happy to be with you tonight
She doesn't get why people hate her so much? She will. As soon as she is shuttled away to witness protection in an armored car.
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GaYToR
Happy Sunday Show!!
Hi Grendon! :)) Good question.. Many answers.
Hi ltc :) Sleep is Gooooood! Please don't apologize!
Hi Anthony! :))
Hi Lisa!! :)
Hi OcalaRob!! :)) NIce to see you!
ummm aaryn dont raise yer arm like that in DR....i sense a nasty photoshop of that possibly someday
Candice! I've seen drag queens with less eye makeup. I'm not one of them but I have seen them.
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GaYToR
Vana
This is the second time I have heard something about Howard and dog fighting. I haven't heard what the whole story was though and don't know when it happened on the feeds. If it's not too long can you give me the run down on what happened.
GaYoR
Yes, one of Blue's was to me @macsmommy. I had asked if he was still working long hours
I think good game play is what wins. Fairness, niceness, badness, or any other .ness is irrelevant. That doesn't mean that we, as fans/observers, can't hope.
LMAO@ the Clown!!!
Hahahaha Nice One Amanda!! :-)
Too bad they couldn't show that Aaryn could open the HOH door; Amanda did because Aaryn couldn't.
I hope BB has a Burn your favorite clothing luxury comp this year. First thing in the barrel would be Elissa's headband. Then all of Judd's pants but that would be for my viewing pleasure.
Who else wants to burn something we see way too much of?
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GaYToR
B grade movies for amanda|
Truth? I hate the Bear Shirt.
Are Jessie and Andy the only players that someone isn't actively wanting to send home?
i love amanda's DRs
I agree about bear shirt Carolyn!! I am tired of seeing it!
Paddy - I think Judd is pretty safe too.
Gaytor, McCrae's hair!
Yep, Caro, forgot ole double D.
CAROLYBN!!! Shame on you. How can you hate anything bearish?
I've collected bears for 35 years and still going. I want that shirt and I'll pay extra shipping if Judd comes ?with? it.
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GaYToR
Do you think Helen honestly believes she is coming off as likeable or do you think she honestly doesn't care.
Also, I heard Helen say for the second time today that Mike Boogie was hot and that he is the best looking BB player. The first time I heard it I thought my ears were playing tricks on me.
Ah well-I guess there is no accounting for taste-even bad taste.
McCrae's Bandanas
A little late to the party...wow, Aaryn and the "ask" comment. wow wow wow..she will need years of counseling after BB. I'm a bit sad she is so ignorant in life. she is young so I think she can better herself, I pray she does.
Hello All!
Happy to be here with my fellow Dishers. Looking forward to all your comments. Dishi Hugs to all!
I understand in theory why people are upset by the thought of Howard leaving at the hands of Aaryn. However, the reality is that if he leaves it is not at the hands of Aaryn. The people sending him out the door are the people voting and none of those hands belong to Aaryn.
Happy Sunday Show!!
Hi Panchita!! :)) (((hugs!!!)))
Hi WheelieGirl!! :)) Fashionably late and makin' an entrance! ;)
Grendon - Boogie? Really? Oh dear.. Re: Aaryn/Howard/Hands - excellent point.
Gaytor - That shirt just reminds me of the gift sweater you only wear when the 84 year old aunt who gave it to you comes over.
In my perfect world, jumping ahead here. Spencer comes off the block, sadly, and Aaryn replaces him with Candice. Votes split 3 ways and Amanda goes to talk to Julie in the confusion of the scheming.
I had to put that out there. I'm not now nor have I ever been a Candice fan and fell off the Howard truck quite some time ago. That leaves only one logical choice since I do not now nor have I ever cared for Amanda since the first night of feeds.
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GaYToR
Helen said her husband looks like Boogie that's why she thinks he is handsome.
Jesse kindly told Spencer that he was making it to jury. She went on to tell him that after Howard leaves the order of evictions would be Candice, then Aaryn and then him.
Did anyone learn how to play this game before they entered the house.
Grendon
I dont get the feeds so I cant be 100% sure, and that applies to everything that I read......but ive seen it posted on other sites and everyone seems to indicate the exact same thing.
Basically he mentioned that he enjoys dog fighting. I dont have the exact wording of course nor do I know exactly when it happened, but ive seen a significant number of posts that give me reason to think its true. It did occur somewhat early in the game I think.
If it proves to be wrong, Ill owe him a personal apology.
Carolyn
Im not one that loses hope easily....I kinda listed everyone in the order that I like them game wise. So I still have hope for Mccrae. Altho Jessie just dropped since she was the one that told Candice about the deal Aaryn had w Helen lol.
Hi All ... I heard Helen say that about Boogie too, then she said it's because she thinks her husband resembles him LOL. Had a lot of fun with the chat room today ... Thanks Carolyn for all you do!
Happy show Sunday! I am so glad you got some well deserved rest, I did go to rehab today for bbdish addicts, a little withdrawl symptoms, but all is well now! Love the people here and our "Sweet Caroline". Sorry lol
Better late than never! Hi everyone*
Had unexpected company today, but I won't complain, big sisters are exceptional :)
Dare I go to the feeds and watch chat for any little hit of what went on today?
Shudder
Oh Judd, I think you just lost a few people with that FBI Comment, But I thought it was cheesy and funny. Just saying
I haven't been commenting too much here this season but I want to thank you all for the comments you have shared. The dishers perspective are a lot better than most FB posters.
Grendon, you still seem to have the same thoughts as I do and I look forward to your thoughts.
Gaytor, you are always entertaining. I hope you are recovering from your fall.
Happy Sunday Show!!
Hi Old WOman :)) HUGS!!
HI Pally!! :) Just hang with us :)))
Hi Reneep! :)) Thank you! (((hugs!))) ♫serenade me all you want!
Bwahahaha!!! Put everything back where it was!!
I like this competition! It looks fun.
Hiya Stesha :)
ROFL! I get it trust me. My dear departed mother gave me a Christmas gift one year. It was a TV Lamp and I can't bring myself to type more than that regarding its description.
We kept it in a special place (behind the TV) and only brought it out when we knew mom was visiting.
Believe it or not, I am sometimes too nice for my own good. She had one just like it and to be nice I said how much I liked it. Serves me right for lying to my mother.
OK, I have to describe it a bit and pray no one here has one similar and loves it. It was a ceramic Spanish Galleon with big sails, also ceramic, also brown with gold marbling. Inside the windows of the below deck level was the light. A reddish light that flickered as if lit by fire.
The End.
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GaYToR
I have never told that story to another soul, except DQTD and my sister, but we are all family here.
Mung Beans and Mackerel? I have to look up Mung Beans. Never heard of them.
:o)
GaYToR
Mung beans? never heard of them
Okay,what are a few of those things??? lol
i'm so glad I'm not the only one who never heard of Mung Beans.
Mung beans is what the make bean sprouts from.
Vana
Thank you. That breaks my heart. I have not thought Howard has played a good game but at times my heart has went out to him. It seems he is always on the outside looking in. If the dog fighting is true I no longer have even an ounce of respect for him as a man, as a christian or as a human being.
Apparently Howard has never heard the song Bless the Beasts and the Children.
2 more drinks!!!
you can grow bean sprouts with mung beans
Hope all goes well this week, my sister just went through chemo and it is tough, hope you have a great support system! Sounds like you do
Candice is responsible for 2 shots of tequila in under 10 seconds
You're welcome Grendon and I DO hope it isnt true with all things considered. I would rather be wrong and know someone isnt supporting that behavior.
But did u just see him use the Jedi mind trick on Candice? The use of the phrase "go get your bed" didnt disguise it all lol. He is understated but good at manipulating her.
Ocalarob, thanks for the well wishes. I think I have a hairline fracture of my right ulna, but it will heal on its on.
(((( Reneep)))) Greetings and hugs!
Has anyone heard from Red Rhonda this year? I miss her. She and her husband, Richard, were so nice.
:o)
GaYToR
10 votes for PARSNIPS AND PUMPERNICKEL
The mung or moong bean is the seed of Vigna radiata, native to the Indian subcontinent, and mainly cultivated in India, China, Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Burma, Bangladesh, Laos and Cambodia, ...
GayTor - Is RedRhonda RMokerski? I see her on twitter a lot.
Helen has worked overtime today picking out who is and is not going to jury (based on who she thinks will vote for her). Apparently Helen hasn't stopped to consider that once people get to jury they start comparing notes. The most memorable affect was the way almost the entire jury turned on Natalie in season 11 even though over half of the people had been her allies in the house. Helen may want to rethink her strategy.
I hope you are feeling ALOT better Gaytor!! xoxo
This will be my last comment for the night. As soon as BB is over I'll be hopping over to HBO for my weekly fix of True Blood. I'm really getting turned on by Ben Warlow. He could sprinkle me with his ... faerie dust all day long.
♫ I Wanna Do Bad Things With You ♫
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GaYToR
Omg the leg lamp from Christmas Story!!!
Nite nite, GaytOr :)) xxoo
Thank you once again for hosting a great party Carolyn XOXO
Amanda suggested to the Goof Troop the possibility of keeping Howard. They shot down that idea real quick.
No Caro. It's Rhonda Musci. Hmmm
;O)
GaYToR
Funny people aren't funny to me when they have to tell everyone how funny they are.
I remember back when the guests were talking about the possibility of America being MVP; Amanda said, "America would never put me up, I'm the funny one"
So is this her way of manipulating America?
It's one of two reasons why I voted her to go on the block, that, and I wanted to see her play for something other than food and comfort.
Greg Stirn said...
The mung or moong bean is the seed of Vigna radiata.....
Did you say you know about a vagina plant? TMI TMI!
Seriously thanks for the detailed info.
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GaYToR
Well wishes Gaytor! Ill be watching True Blood at 11pm...gotta do Dexter first then Ray Donovan.
G - I just sent her a friend req..
Pally :) Gotcha
Everyone.. it's bedtime for bonzo.. :) I'll see you back here darn n early with the overnight report.
Question: If Howard goes home this week, he'll be the 1st Nominee who went up as a target and actually went home.
Nite Carolyn* Thank you*
Just dropping by to say hi and to try not to see any spoilers while actively reading every. single. comment. for spoilers since I have to wait and watch with the family a bit later. I love Carolyn's (and Lessa's posts) and the commenters make this the best site by far!
Carolyn, I see the tell-tale signs of commenter/fans getting tired of the HGs. Seems like it happens every year (and sometimes turns around if something big happens, although it hasn't happened to me yet. I noticed that I don't usually see the follow-up comments saying "I'll never watch again" on this site like I have on others. What do you think - is there a cycle to the fan emotions like there is to the HG paranoia?
Gaytor WHen I first read it i thought it said vagina LMAO
What did Helen mean in DR when she said "her plan"? Does she think we dont know the truth, or is she delusional and really believes she is running the show?
So the night of the fight Aaryn was a non entity to Elissa and now 6:50pm cams 1/2 they are chatting it up like old friends. How things change.
Also I believe it started at 6:30pm not sure which cams but Aaryn was talking to Helen on the hammock and they were discussing the racial issues. Aaryn is either in denial, deep denial or she doesn't remember what she said because she says how much it hurts her to be portrayed that way and that she fears for her life outside the game because that is out there.
7:07pm cams 3/4 Howard and Helen have a meeting about what Candice did last night re: her discussion/confrontation with Helen.
Helen tells Howard she loves him and that he, Spencer and Andy will be her guy friends from the house.
Helen asks Howard about the secret alliance. Howard tells the same story he did before that it was a trap to see who would tell the other side. Helen may push for Candice to go.
Helen says she's not mad at Howard or even Candice. She's over it she was just upset at what Candice said.
Helen is setting up Howard to use him for later when she takes on McCranda I believe.
Re: Howard and Dog Fighting
I was concerned about this when I saw it on other sites as well... My sister likes Howard, but she's a big animal lover (Fosters and everything), so I knew if it was true, she'd dislike him... So I looked it up, since everyone was just bashing him for "loving dog fights"... What I found was:
Thursday, July 11th at 1:15 A.M.
Most of the guys were discussing dogs... and then Howard mentions that he knows someone who did dog fighting... He explains how it works, and what he knows... But I never, at any point, heard him condone or approve of it... I was listening for it, too... Cuz I wanted to be able to show my sister what he said... But the discussion was more informational than encouraging...
So I think, based on listening to the whole conversation, that it's a stretch to say that Howard enjoys/approves of/condones/appreciates dog fighting... He may know someone who does it, and/or know how it works... but he at no point says he enjoys it or has done it...
That's why I don't trust other people's rants about house guests... We see people through our own filters, and things get viewed different ways... You love this person, so everything they do wrong has an excuse/pass... You hate that person, so every little thing they do gets blown up...
Don't get me wrong... I was fully ready to hate on Howard and show my sister the clip, if he did "brag" about it... but it was all very clinical... That was my take on it, anyway...
Either way, FYI for those that are curious... Ya'll might even interpret it differently than I did... Either way, the Flashback will let you see for yourself...
7:45pm Cams 1/2 Nail Party in HOH
Meanwhile Howard goes to find Candice in the HHN room and hugs her.
The yellow bandanas!
9:10pm cams 1/2 Candice is having a slop meltdown. Andy is there for support. She then has a moment of clarity re Howard. It passes quickly.
Hey, Carolyn! Thanks again for all your great work so far this season! Just wanted to share one thing that has been rattling around in my head. I have been observing a paradigm shift with regard to the attitudes in social media surrounding the HGs. I realize that in the BB house, allegiances change, nominee preferences come and go, etc. Just over a week ago, everyone was calling for Aaryn's head on a stick in the #BB15 convos. Then, the Gries family reportedly hires a PR firm to help with Aaryn's damage control efforts on her character once she leaves the house and WHAM! Suddenly I am reading everything from wanting to evict Helen to "BlameCandice" with a hashtag in social media. Are these the results of Mama Gries' dollars at work? Has that PR firm begun to change the perception of their clients' daughter as it pertains to the court of public opinion? Time will tell.
Grendon and Vana
Re. Howard and dogfighting. He was discussing it with some of the other male HGs back on July 7th at about 1.13 AM on camera 3.
Howard was talking about 'his homeboy' who used to train pit bulls (that means train to fight). He told the story of how they were fed raw meat to learn to love the taste. He talked about the training and how a winning dog brings in $20K for a fight. He mentioned one of his homeboy's dogs that ripped apart the stomach of one of his other dogs. He told about the term for dog fighting on the black market being "Pizza".
So he may not have participated in it himself... but it says something about a person's character as well. He is friends with this guy today... the guy still works with dogs but in a different way. I know that in my world I would not be friends with a Michael Vick type of person any more than I would be friends with a pedophile or somebody into child porn. Call it guilty by association if you want. Some people want to lynch an immature ignorant young woman for her stupid ass racist comments on a game show... while not reacting to the issue of illegal dog fighting. How this is acceptable in anybody's book is beyond me. I would kick a shady phukc kind of friend like that to the curb forever... if it was in the past or not. Anybody who has tortured an animal or child does not change 'just like that'. If Howard would have, in his conversation with the dudes at the house, have spoken up about the cruelty and immoral behavior and more... different story. I hope he addresses the issue if somebody asks him when out.
Ok all you hard core Dishers...thanks for your comments and insights...remember this is an entertainment show....dont get wrapped up in reality...it doesn't exist....lying is a key part of the show...lets root for the most entertaining HGs ...again good job Caro and MM!
jovee
Thanks Kat Quick and Mia Monasdotter
The info you both provided was very helpful. I dont have the feeds so I wont be able to go back and see the convo for myself at this point. I was never under the impression that Howard actively took part in the dogfighting. But the things I read led me to believe he didnt have much of a problem with it.
Truth be told it wouldnt have mattered to me what happened....to be present and view something like that or know enuf about it to speak on it is disturbing to me. If someone knows about animal cruelty taking place and does nothing, in my mind they are just as guilty as the perpetrators. I feel guilty that I cant take in every stray I see...so its a topic I admit I may not be entirely reasonable about.
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