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Wednesday, September 4, 2013

The Overnight Report

Good morning, BB Lovers!  Happy Wednesday to you!

As it stands, The Exterminators are doing a lot of chest thumping, Amanda and Elissa are getting along swimmingly, Andy is still stringing them all along, and Amanda looks to be headed out the door on Thursday night.  I hope her handler at least gives her some apples and honey.

Unless there is a big change in the next 30 or so hours, the only question now seems to be, who will follow her out the door?

Elissa and Amanda had a really nice heart to heart on the Hammock at 8:16pm Tuesday on Camera 3.  If you can, check out the 1st 2 minutes on flashback.  Although it's not intended as one, it's a lovely farewell and peacemaking.. Thank you, Ryder, for the heads up!

Spencer, McCrae, GM
Backyard - Couch
Amanda: I feel like when you're buzzed, you're more optimistic that they're gonna give you a second booze delivery, and they're not.
McCrae: Elissa's goin' to bed right now.
Spencer: It's crazy to be on Big Brother, isn't it.
McCrae: I was thinkin' about that before I went to bed last night.

Amanda grabs a seat on the couch.  Spencer, Andy and GM get up to tend to laundry.  Judd joins

McCrae: It says in the book, the more we talk about alcohol, the less we get.

Amanda goes inside.

Judd: Did she hide a few?
McCrae: I hope so.  I want one. Did she find em first?
Judd: Yeah.

Spencer: Aaah! Miss Marylin.. Doin' my laundry. When Julie asked me about the dirty room, kinda embarrassed me, cuz that's something she's always giving me hell about at home.. my piles.

Cam 3
Happy Chatter with the new besties..

Elissa: I just can't stand when people knock people for..
Amanda: Success.
Elissa: Exactly
Amanda: I think I'm able to attain wealth, so in stead of being envious about it, I read and I study and..
Elissa: I'm different than everyone here, obviously, and I feel like I'm a nice person and I want the best for everyone.
Amanda: I love that bathing suit.
Elissa: I honestly have no idea where it came from.. I think my bag was searched and someone just stuck it in there.
Amanda: What's it like to have no cellulite on your body?
Elissa: Oh my God, I'm gross.

Elissa: Have you ever done any bikini modeling or anything?
Amanda: I've never had the body.  I know I could tone up..

Elissa: What made you wanna do the show?
Amanda: Just I thought the game was cool.  Most of the reality shows are not authentic, but this one's real.  I thought it was a challenge for me to see how far I could make it.
Elissa: So you just applied?
Amanda: Yeah, I applied on line.  I never thought anything would come of it. I didn't even think I filled out the application right.

cam 1 and 2
Andy, Spencer, McCrae, Judd

Spencer's telling everyone stories about his father, the Judge.  McCrae gets up to go inside for a minute, opening the door for them..

Judd: And tell Amanda what Judd said about ELissa...  Is it bad that I don't give a f*ck?
Andy: I'm starting not to too.
Judd: What was Amanda saying about that beer when she was pouring it out?
Spencer: She's just a talking head to me.

Spencer: I will f'in shout that bitch down, while she's doin' an A/B test so she doesn't win it.

Cam 3
McCrae and Elissa

Topic: Judd

Elissa: It just bothers me that he comes into the game and he's doing the exact same thing.  I'm not an idiot.  You think you're gonna manipulate me?

Cam 3
McCrae and Amanda talk a minute in the bedroom.. They're feeling animosity coming at them from both Judd and GM, but they haven't connected the dots back to Andy. At all.

McCrae, Amanda, Judd, Spencer and Andy are chatting on the couch in the backyard.  McCrae gets up to shoot some pool.
Elissa has gone to bed.
GM is on the hammock.


Spencer: I wanna buy all my childhood favorite toys at some point..
McCrae: I want that McHammer doll.
Spencer: Buy it dude.  But don't open it.
Judd: I had a Steve Irwin doll.. You could hit the button.. and he'd say Crikee!

Amanda: My ex was really annoying at those things.. He's an editor, and editors like to decorate their edit bays, and he would flip through posters for hours, and I'd be like, Justin, pleeeease.
Judd: They have a pretty big one where I live..
Spence: Do you collect anything?
Amanda: No
Spence: As a kid?
Amanda: Trolls.. I did collect Disney Glass figurines, but I'm not really that kind of person.. Do you collect anything?
Spencer: I like antique furniture.. and photos of old railroad derailments.. I didn't have any art on my walls.. That's what started that.

Cam 3
Judd gets up and goes over to GM on the Hammock..  then goes inside.. Andy's in the kitchen.

Judd: (sigh) How can you be nice to someone when you know they want you out next?

Judd goes into the bathroom.  Andy comes out to join GM on the Hammock.

Cam 3
GM: You'd be proud of me.  I been doin' these. I like counting on my fingers. Honey, Baby Mobile, Joneses.. The Time warp, Frogs, Nails..

Andy: Think of em as 2 separate weeks.. Think of that as week 7.
GM: Aaryn, me, Holdem Foldem.. Zing..
Andy: 8 was me.. I was the 8th HoH
GM: When I counted days, though.. But not 11 weeks.
Andy: There have been 11 weeks, but the 1st week was 2 weeks long.
GM: Hold on..
**steam rising. GM's brain may soon short circuit.

Spencer joins them.
GM: I thought Otev was the 8th week.
Andy: Otev was the 9th Veto.
GM: I've been doing it all wrong then.
Spencer: If you're getting confused, stop.
GM: I'm goin' 7, 14, 21, 28.. Judd was the 4th HoH and he was week 28.
Andy: Day 28.

Spencer: It seems like David left 2 years ago.
**yes it does

Cam 1 and 2
Amanda and McCrae are shooting pool and chatting.

McCrae: Did you take your pill today?
Amanda: Yeah. At like 4.
McCrae: Oh good.
Amanda: I'm kinda tired.

Cam 3
Remedial BB training is over for the moment.  Andy relaxes solo on the Hammock.   GM's inside pouring herself a drink.  Spencer too.

Cam 4
Judd, Spencer, Andy

Chatter about movies.. actors..

Andy: Horror is my fave, and I actually really like a good romantic comedy as well.

GM rejoins..

Andy: What is your least favorite genre of movies.
GM: Romantic Comedies.
Andy: Horror movies are my favorite.
GM: Mine too.

GM climbs high on the Hammock and gives the boys a ride.

GM: I was so mad that they didn't have a Nick.  I was p the F*ck o'd.
Spencer: She was.  She was enraged.
GM: They had one for F'on David, but not Nick.

BB: Ginamarie, knock it off.
Ginamarie: (BUUUUURP)

A bat flies in the yard.. Amanda and Judd go to have a closer look.

Ginamarie: Ginamarie, stop farting.  That would kill me.
Spencer: Can you imagine if there was a segment on the show about it?
Andy: They asked me about it.
Ginamarie: They're gonna make me look like a f'in dirtbag.
**you manage that quite well, all by yourself.

Talk turns to Elissa

Spencer: She said she's been in 15 movies..
GM: Pornographic home movies?
Andy: It must be nice to have so much money that you can do whatever you want, all day every day.
GM: Like get on Big Brother..

Skippy keeps the quad on the Exterminators long enough for me to dread the final 2 weeks and hope like hell for an upset Thursday night.

GM: I can't believe they actually brought up my farting.  Like, I have stomach issues.  That's like problems.  That's like if I have cancer, making fun of my hair falling out.  My dad has one leg, if you wanna show that too.
Judd: Ginamarie..
GM: It's funny when a fat Chicken George do it.. but make fun of the 32 year old single girl.

Andy: Are you kissing or whispering?

Cam 1 and 2
McCrae: it just seems too good to be true.
Amanda: Worst case scenario, I go home.  I really think she's gonna do it.
McCrae: I think she is.. but Andy..

McCrae: Why did she bring 3 in?
Amanda: A lot of people have multiple wedding bands.  It's more sp[arkly.
McCrae: i can't wait to see GM's face.
Amanda: I feel like she wouldn't have given me her ring and taken my earrings if she didn't mean it...
McCrae: Why the earrings?
Amanda: In case it's a double, then I have her (back ) too.

McCrae: If it happens, it's gonna be so awesome.
Amanda: I hope it does. GM's gonna go batshit crazy.
McCrae: I have a feeling she'll go during the double.  That'd be the best revenge.
Amanda: Oh my God..

Amanda: Andy loves that shirt.. I don't think he would f me after everything last week.
McCrae: Plus he knows this is a way to get Elissa off his back for once.
Amanda: mm hmm
McCrae: I hope I don't go.. Let's go inside.
Amanda: Brush our teethies.

Andy: Where are you 2 going?
Amanda: To sleep..

The sliding glass door closes..

GM: You need to burn that f'in mattress!
Spencer: We have a flea infestation.
GM: She's just actin' like she's f'in queen bee again.. 1 more day.
Judd: I do want her out before McCrae.
Andy: Elissa?
GM: That means I could be the last girl here.  How awesome would that be.  Yeah, Elissa's definitely before him.
Spencer: If it's double eviction..
Judd: Make me run tomorrow.
GM: Think I should run for a second and see if it hurts.
Spencer: NO.  We don't know if it's fractured.
Judd: I wish we could practice finding shit.
GM: Just go whereever Elissa is.

Andy: Every story she tells about how privileged she is makes me want to punch her.
Judd: I can't barely hold it in anymore.

Talk turns to the jury.. and how they'll vote.

Andy: Helen, Jessie and now Amanda were all lied to by me up until the last minute before they're evicted..

Judd, Andy, GM, Spencer

Andy: Her and Elissa were in the bathroom, grinning ear to ear.
GM: You are gonna get the Oscar, bro.
Judd: And just a week ago, I  had to listen to her complain about her for an hour solid.

Andy: Oh.. and they want you (GM) and Judd out next. They think you're running the house..  The reason yu 2 are the targets is because they think I'm with them, and Spencer's going home.
GM: Oh yeah.. I wonder if they'll boo her out.
Andy: How funny would it be if they opened the door and it was thunderous boos.  It's just all sweeter because Amanda think they're running everything.
GM: I wonder what Amanda's speech is gonna be.
Andy: Well, she thinks she's staying, so..
Spencer: Judd, did you give your goodbye tonight?
Judd: Yeah, but i was so pissed off that..
**Fishies.. 1:45am -- Stretch!
**1:50am Fishies..

Cam 1 and 2

McCrae: He wants Veto so bad..
Amanda: Judd? He's not a good competitor though..

McCrae: How do you know?  He could've thrown everything til he needed to win.
Amanda: Just let's see what happens.  You can't pre-plan because we don't know what's gonna happen on Thursday.
McCrae: But at the same time, I can set the groundwork.
Amanda: I feel like he wouldn't wanna get rid of you.. There'll be 3 people voting..
McCrae: After this one.
Amanda: Say Judd wins HoH, if someone comes down or wins Veto.. besides GM.. or she might take you down.  I'm thinking way too ahead.
McCrae: We have to though.
Amanda: Double Evictions are always mind quick things..
McCrae: We can't underestimate her.  She's good.
Amanda: I wonder if she got HoH again, who she'd put up..
McCrae: We could try to convince her.. We could tell her, you tried to put us up, it didn't work, you tried to put Elissa up, it didn't work, why don't you go for a target that's gonna work this time?

Amanda: I can't believe they said no to my medication.. I'm like, this isn't the way it works.  I don't wanna keep thinking.  My mind is racing.  Don't you think if it was a double eviction, we would be locked down already?
McCrae; no.  It's 2 simple things.

Amanda: What freaks me out is why is Spencer not concerned that Elissa and I seem chummy now?
Spencer: He thinks there's no way you could have reconciled.. But I worry about that also.

Cam 3

Spencer: She's actin like she's HoH this week.
Andy: So if Elissa wins HoH, I go to her and say McCrae voted her out.. He's trying to make a guys alliance.. And if it's him, I'll say, she must've lied to us.. They think they have me 100%.  They're most worried about Elissa.  And during the HoH, I might even root for McCrae.. just to make it seem like I'm with him.
Spencer: What about Elissa though?
Spencer: If they drop, I'm gonna start dry humping my stand. Here comes Amanda, cleaning up after sex.. No, it's Elissa.. in her tank top.  She's staring at us.
Andy: She's the least subtle person I've ever met.  That's how cocky they are.. They all just go to bed and think we're not up to anything.  I can't wait.
GM: I'm gonna sleep 20 hours tomorrow.
Andy: Me too.
**bike ride for me!

Andy: So.. we just can't let McCrae win that Veto..

Spencer: She's takin' a midnight dump.
GM: I just wanna open the door on her.. Oh my gah.. It stinks in here.
Spencer: It's almost like we're playin a game with Michael Myers.. Her face looks the same, plastic. You can never get away from her.
Judd: I'm gonna make so much noise when I go back there tonight.
Andy: She's worse. At least Michael Myers kills you quickly.
Judd: Why did I surround myself with such terrible people before ya'll.  I don't even want a cast picture.  I just want a copy of the one we took today.
Spencer: I'm glad you feel that way.
GM: And I have Nick's hat it in too.  How awesome is that?!
Spencer: That's pretty cool.

Andy gets up to go to the bathroom and to check what time it is..

Judd: So.. She thinks she's for sure stayin' huh?
GM: Look at the way she's acting..
Spencer: This is what they told Andy.. They're gonna go after you (Judd) then you (GM).. Then Andy's like, then who, me?
GM: He tawked to me today.. I'm like, i'm not f'in stupid.
Spencer: They think we're all stupid.
GM: They really do.
Judd: The whole running the house thing pisses me off.. I've hardly talked any game with her. What does she say?
Spencer: The worse day in the house is when you came back and Elissa won HoH.

GM: F'in Jewish Princess is what I'm gonna call her.
Judd: We don't lie about our ages..

Cam 2

Amanda shows McCrae the ring up close, and points out the markings to him that indicate it's real.   He's very reluctant to believe, but admittedly knows nothing about jewelry.  She shows him the diamonds, and then gives him a comparison of some costume jewelry so he can see the difference. Then she inspects more closely as well.

Amanda: Yeah, these are real..
McCrae: I hope you're right.  How much is that ring, you think?
Amanda: Probably about 4-5,000.

Cam 3 and 4

Andy: Especially because Elissa loves to listen at doors.
Judd: God, i want them out so bad.  I can't even tell you how much I'm holding in.
GM: I know, buddy. I know how you can get.
Judd: 3 scumbag mice.

Andy: Amanda just walked by..

She's going to put some toothpaste on a pimple.

GM: Probably went to wipe the cum off her face.
Spencer: GM, do you let guys cum on your face..
GM: (nods yes) Yeah, I just wipe it off.
Spencer: F'in lucky Nick Uhas.

Inside, Amanda studies the memory wall for a minute before returning to bed.


GM tells the guys she'll give them a secret knock for tomorrow.. she them slams Elissa... Judd joins in.

Judd: Elissa told me I reminded her of all the guys she grew up with, and all I could think was, "the common folk."

Talk turns to rudeness about Elissa's husband and child again.

2:29am -- Skippy flips the fishie switch, then takes the quad to McNookie.


Cam 1
McCrae and Amanda

McCrae's telling Amanda about a bible story he just read.

Cam 3
Spencer, Andy and Judd

Spencer: Don't f'in talk to me that way, f'in Pizza Boy.
**10 minutes ago they were touting how their's was the alliance of the common man.
Judd: I just don't wanna go out on a double eviction again.

Andy: You're not.  Over my dead body.
Spencer: One of us win HoH, send one of those assholes packin'.  And then we get the HoH again, we'll put McCrae up, and there's nothin' he can do about it. When we watch the season, we're gonna be proud of how we played.  He threw his game away for a realtor from Boca.  If they are together at this time next year, I'll give both of you 1000 dollars.
Andy: I just hope I'm not portrayed as their little follower, cuz I wasn't. You gotta know when to make the move.  That's why when you came in, I was like, it's time.  This is perfect.

Talk turns to who they'll keep up with after the show. Andy thinks he'll see Helen once a week. Spencer and Judd say they want nothing to do with anyone outside of the Exterminators.  Talk turns to Judd's town, then his work..  Then Spencer's work.  Spencer gets up to give them a visual.. (2:50am on cam 3, if you'd like to see)

Cam 1 and 2
Chair Room

Elissa's up.. She can't breath.. It's too dry in the house.

Amanda: Elissa, is the Torah the same thing as the old testament?
Elissa: Yeah.. The first 7 books, I believe.
**1st 5 books
Amanda: And Shabbat is Friday, right?
Elissa: Yeah, but I think it's only once a month..
**every week

Amanda: I went to the wailing wall on Shabbat.

Amanda: "Sabbath, the 7th day of the week, it extends from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset."
**til Saturday, 3 stars in the sky - Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Bible talk, laws, and customs continue.. Amanda's searching a combined bible, so the answers she finds are not going to be as accurate to Judaism as they could be.. but she seems quite unaware of this.  She finds a map at the back and they peruse.

Amanda: I stayed in a Bedouin tent.. and I stayed..
McCrae: There's Moab.
Amanda: Ein Gedi.. I went to the Ein Gedi museum.. I went to Jerusalem.. This is the Gaza Strip.. Isn't that where it's dangerous?
*oy va voy li. yes, dear.

Amanda: Sukkot.. Sukkot.. We went over here too.  We hiked more than just Masada.. Yarmut..
McCrae: Your book is awesome.
**Sukkot is a holiday, not a location.

Andy; What're you guys up to?
Amanda: Reading. :)  What did GM call you over for?
Andy: She was studying.. and she knows I know days.  She does know her shit.  I was surprised.

Judd comes in and says goodnight.

Amanda: Goodnight, Angel.

McCrae gets up to fix himself some chips and salsa.

Cam 1
Rainbow Room - Dark
Elissa, Judd, Andy

Elissa: You guys can turn on the lights..
Judd: (whisper) It's ok.
Elissa: I couldn't fall asleep, cuz I couldn't breathe.
Judd: I'd give you one of my allergy pills but I'd probably get in trouble.  Go request a Claritin.

Silence falls over the Rainbow Room..

McMunchies are in the works.. Nachos at 3am..

**Thou shalt not covet the metabolism of  a 24 year old boy. Thus sayeth the Lord...

Chair Room
Amanda, Spencer

Spencer: It wasn't always one way.. There's 100s of religions.. All the Romans. You need to watch a movie called Zeitgeist.
Amanda: That sounds really familiar.
Spencer: It's a 3 part..

Andy: (whispers) Can you guys be a little quiet?
Spencer: (kidding) you want some cotton balls for your ears, bitch?
Andy: No, It's 3:30am.

Spencer: There's over 60 messiah stories.. where they were born of a virgin.. over 1000s of years.. As people started evolving, they were scared at night, because they couldn't see.  They Egyptians named Sun Ra and Darkness Set, and the very first religion was basically light v darkness.

McCrae returns with his Nachos..

Amanda: I'm an.. Ashkenazi. That's the kind of Jew I am..
McCrae: Your descended of?
Amanda: Levis are a type of Jew, but I'm Ashkenazi
**Ashkenazi refers to the region you went to/came from in the diaspora, Franco-Germany, specifically, but also includes Russia, The Ukraine, Poland. It's not a tribe.  Levi, like Cohen, is one of the 12 tribes.

Amanda: Moses was the baby sent down the river?
McCrae: Jeez.  It's your religion.  I don't even have a religion. I still know that.  Isn't there anything in the back that says the 12 descendants?
**tribes, please.
McCrae: What are you again?
Amanda: Ashkenazi.
**Happy New Year and Shana Tova, Miss Zuckerman.  It seems you were not written in the book of the BB final 6, but we wish you a sweet new year all the same.  May your 5774 be filled with learning.

And this concludes the Overnight Report! :0)  See you when BB wakes the HGs.

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Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

I'm going down for a little nap while the HGs sleep. I'll be back to publish comments around 8-8:30am bbt.

September 4, 2013 at 4:14 AM  
Blogger Brian said...

It's actually going to be 5774 (not 5773). It will take me a while to get used to writing that on my checks.


September 4, 2013 at 4:26 AM  
Blogger MattitudeV1oh said...

There's nothing I like less than sore winners. I wonder how much of the anger that comes from The Exterminators is from the fact that they know Amanda did run the game and they don't want to admit it or how much they simply don't trust each other once we get past Thursday?

They're trying to make me cheer for Elissa and I'd never thought I'd say that.

September 4, 2013 at 4:31 AM  
Blogger Barbara said...

Good morning Carolyn, woke up early. Amanda and Judd are still up on the hammock and Amanda is subtly working for Judd's vote. She told him Mcrae cried after he left and who knows she might just get him to swing his vote.

Crazy stuff, never believed Elissa was really going to vote to keep Amanda...until she gave up her wedding rings as proof.

Okay off to read TOR, hope you get your AVI back on twitter, looks funnny with an egg, lol.

Have a great day.

September 4, 2013 at 4:58 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Caro, bless you. thank goodness your head didn't explode.

September 4, 2013 at 4:59 AM  
Blogger Barbara said...

Just saw you are taking a nap, time stamp for when I woke to convo with Amanda and Judd on hammock is about 7:50am bbt,

September 4, 2013 at 4:59 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Good morning Carolyn

I haven't read TOR so I don't know if anything has changed. I've been trying to figure out, from where Andy is sitting, what the best move is.

First, looking at jury-If Andy goes with Amanda, McCrae and Elissa the Exterminators are going to consider him a snake but no one else will. GM might have some influence with Aaryn but Spencer and Judd have no influence. If Andy goes with the Exterminators, they still think he is a bit of a snake because they saw him cut Helen and then McCranda knowing that they had been loyal from the beginning. Elissa, McCrae and Amanda will hate him. Elissa would have a lot of influence with Helen, Candice and probably Jessie.

No one in either alliance plans to take Andy to the end. They are convinced he is too likeable and everyone will vote for him. Therefore, he needs to try to keep the target of his back and play the best odds until he is close to the end. Then, the only way he ensures a final 2 is to win HOH and/or POV.

So lets look at numbers and targets. If he stays with Exterminators, Amanda is evicted. He is then in the larger group going into HOH with 3 against 2. (Spencer, Andy, Judd vs. McCrae, Elissa). If Elissa wins Andy is OTB probably against Spencer. If McCrae wins, I'm not sure what he would do but he might put Andy OTB against GM or Judd. If Andy does not go up initially, he would probably be a renom. If Andy is OTB he is most likely getting voted out. No one wants him in final 2.

If Andy goes with team McCranda, he now has even more numbers. Spencer will be evicted. It will be 4 to 1. (Andy, Elissa, McCrae, Amanda vs. Judd) If Judd wins HOH, Andy will still most likely not be a target because Judd really, REALLY has a grudge against Amanda and McCrae.

People are still going to wheel and deal and flip flop. Especially after DE when they need to regroup. If someone from team McCranda leaves in the second eviction there would be 2 people left from each side, probably still firing shots at each other. Andy would be in the middle and both sides would probably want his vote. If Spencer left and then another Exterminator followed him out the door, either Judd or GM is left alone and at that point would be willing to deal with Andy because they wouldn't have anyone else. He is still part of his original alliance. They are going to target the last Exterminator before they target Andy.

Everyone is so convinced that it's about the 'power couple' (who really hasn't had any power) when it's really about playing the best odds to get close to the end. Once you are at final 4, it is really about winning those comps.

September 4, 2013 at 5:34 AM  
Blogger Ryder said...

Carolyn .....Have a nice nap!

around 4:20am bbt

Judd can't sleep and goes outside, followed shortly by Amanda. She can't sleep either, They lay in the hammock and talk about everything that has happened thus far. They have a thoughtful conversation regarding why Amanda was afraid of him before his eviction and how/why he acted the way he did. He wanted to be friends with everyone to keep himself safe and he says he was loyal. He wasn't always open with the Goof Troop and he did withhold some things but for valid sounding reasons. Judd is afraid he is going out on the next DE and he now thinks it will be this week. Amanda says she always thought that Judd was way smarter than he let on. He admits it was part of his strategy to act like that but he couldn't keep it up because he hated people treating him like he was stupid. Amanda says that GM is like a savant. Judd doesn't know what that is so Amanda explains it's someone who may be kind of stupid but they are very good at one thing (i.e. weird BB comps). Amanda makes a half hearted attempt to get Judd to keep her. He asks her is she has talked to Andy and if he is on board with keeping her. She still believes Andy will. Judd said lets talk about it tomorrow. After an hour long talk they get up and go back to bed hoping to be able to sleep.

I too am going to sleep now. Get as many naps in as you can Carolyn, you are gonna need em!

September 4, 2013 at 5:39 AM  
Blogger John11581 said...

I haven't made it all the way through TOR yet (I'm running late for work this morning and care a lot less about it than I should), but I just had to say how sick and tired I am with Judd. He went from being one of my favorites to being one of the most tedious. So much for coming back into the game with a clean slate. All he's done since he's been back is b_tch and moan. He acts like he should be immune from the block because he was blindsided in the double eviction. And, while I hate to sound like a total b_tch, his constant complaints about his anxiety and his references to his meds has been extremely off-putting to me. I don't mean that to sound as nasty as it does. I'm a public interest attorney who works exclusively with the mentally ill, and it just concerns me that the game may be having an adverse affect on his mental health in a way that it wouldn't ordinarily have on a houseguest without a mental health diagnosis, and who takes psychotropic medications.

September 4, 2013 at 5:52 AM  
Blogger rachel b said...

It's going to be 5774! :-) Hope you have a very happy and healthy sweet new year! l'shana tova

September 4, 2013 at 6:04 AM  
Blogger Taz Caz said...

The idea of any of these houseguests winning $500k turns my stomach. Time to bring back another jury member (besides Aaryn). Way to scrape the bottom of the barrel, CBS.

September 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...

Havent finished TOR, but WTF is up with Judd? He seems to have lost his marbles and isnt even looking for them. Quite a team those Extramentators, the remind me of the family from As I Lay Dying

September 4, 2013 at 6:48 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

I am as far as 1:23 a.m.

GM comparing her stomach issues and people making fun of her farting to being the same as someone making fun of someone who has cancer when their hair falls out....

....It takes a LOT to offend me. I find that offensive on SO MANY levels.

I've been disappointed in the ending of the show before. I have been bored. I have been angry. One thing I have never done is give up on it. If we are left with a house full of Exterminators I just really do not care what happens. Yes, Amanda has been terrible. No, I have not been an Elissa fan. But this bunch of bug-busters are becoming every bit as offensive as anyone else. On top of that, they are mean spirited, they are completely full of themselves and they are incredibly hypocritical. They forgot the golden rule-they don't have to make everyone else look bad in order to make themselves look good.

September 4, 2013 at 6:50 AM  
Blogger Adam said...

Exterminators 4 life

I can understand how some people are offended at what GM says, but she's by far the most entertaining person there. You never know what kind of obnoxious comment she's going to spew next. I think she's hilarious.

Full disclosure: I'm also from North Jerz and am desensitized to some of this behavior. :o)

September 4, 2013 at 6:54 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Happy New Year Carolyn

September 4, 2013 at 7:01 AM  
Blogger Jaznotes said...

Hope it is ok if I ring in with a few thoughts? I think Elissa is very smart. She is covering her bases so that she will get Amanda's jury vote no matter who goes home this week. She did the same thing with Aaryn. I find it hard to root for any of the house guests this year. Last year Ian quickly became my fav and made for an entertaining summer. How did BB come by so many ignorant people? I do not know if Amanda deserves the animosity she is receiving in the blogs as I have not been following closely, but it seems her bad behaviour has been part of her game play rather than who she actually is in real life. (Whether it works for her or not...) It is clear that with GM and Spencer what you see is what you get. Amanda & McCrae pleeeeese take a clue from Zingbot, Andy is a floater! If they confront him that he will be next if Amanda goes they may have hope unless of course Elissa is not sincere. Expect the unexpected indeed!

September 4, 2013 at 7:03 AM  
Blogger CZ said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you for today's format.

September 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM  
Blogger Adam said...

Anyone see Julie Chen on Letterman last night? She was slamming Aaryn pretty hard.

September 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM  
Blogger Lucky13 said...

Good morning Carolyn!! Good morning BBDishers!!

I was anxious to get in to work this morning to make a few comments on a few things I caught this AM on the feeds. I decided to read TOR and the comments beforehand. Then I was a bit reluctant because it seems I find myself in the minority regarding everyone's favorites and the best strategies and theories etc. So I read Tuesday afternoon's transcription and comments, deciding to keep mine to myself. That is until I read GaYToR's comments. I too like Andy. I have said the same things about him with regard to him being the least offensive in the house. And I do believe he's played a good game. I don't believe he's a floater either. He was likeable enough that HGs felt comfortable talking and revealing in front of him when he would "pop up". He was loyal for as long as he could be to those it is now being said that he betrayed. I think if he would have sided with Helen, he would have been next on Helen's hitlist. Helen was cutthroat that way. She was ready to strike and she was building her army to do it while shielding herself in tears and the cloaks of motherhood. But I digress. I think Andy is a-ok.

I've been a J-U-Double D fan since before he left and I remain one now that he's back. When I have put my hopes out there for F5, F3, F2 and the win, he's always there. I called a Judd, Andy, Spencer F3 weeks ago. Yes Spencer has a foul mouth (I've acknowledged that before as well), but in the grand scheme of things, he has been loyal to his picks too. Howard, while he was there, he's always had a good rapport with Andy and he's been up front with Judd too. He's been used as a pawn and survived. I say survived because there's always been just as many people wanting him out as who he was up against, it's just that this season's mob mentality, unanimous house votes have saved him in the end. He's been nervous every time, just as he is this week. You can see it. He talks tough, but he knows how fast a plan can go south. Again, I digress. Back to Judd. It has been said that he's not the same since he got back in the house. I can agree with that. I don't think I would be either. It may seem that he's focused more on McCranda in his anger because he's realized the power and influence they've had all along. Yes everyone still there, voted him out, but again the unanimous house votes struck again, for fear of McCranda. Yes, Helen headed it because at that time she could easier get in Aaryn's head than McCranda. Helen's gone, Aaryn's gone, so of course Judd would direct his anger toward the real power. And what put the icing on the cake. Judd believed in his friendship with McCrae. McCrae did too, but not against 'THE HOUSE'. So he shed his tears and moved on.

I've rambled on and on and still haven't spoken on the two things I initially wanted to bring up today. I think I'm getting reluctant again...lol. Well GaYToR, if you're out there, thanks for your comments. This morning you made it easy for me to speak on a few things I've obviously been holding back on for a few days. LOL.

I know we all don't agree, we agree to disagree and we do so with the greatest of camaraderie. I've never been made to feel bad about anything I've said here. I was just feeling a little lonely in my opinions. Well BIG ((((HUGS)))) to you all. I'm going to take a break and decide if I want to make my original two statements (after such a long rant).

Have a wonderful day in the mean time everyone!!

September 4, 2013 at 7:44 AM  
Blogger shansafan said...

These are just great!! Best,easiest and funniest way to get caught up on BB. Thanks so much!! :)

September 4, 2013 at 7:51 AM  
Blogger shansafan said...

Thank you so much for doing these. Easiest and best way to get caught up on BB!! Thanks again! :)

September 4, 2013 at 7:53 AM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

Good morning Carolyn and all my BB Buddies!

Sorry Gaytor...I just don't feel the love for Andy that you do. I don't mind him plotting and voting against Amanda but I do mind all the horrible things he has said about her and McCray because she did everything in her power, and more, last week to try to keep him off the block and in the house. I think that deserves a little something! He has gone way beyond he pale for me.

GM is just so oblivious! That's all I can say.

Hope everyone has a good day.

I couldn't even watch last night because of all the hate and backstabbing going on. I know it's part of the game and I am ridiculous that it stresses me, but it does. I think this is the worst year I have watched besides Season 9. That one was hard to watch also.

September 4, 2013 at 8:33 AM  
Blogger Yasmin said...

Good Morning Carolyn and BB Buddy's!

It's the final count down to Amanda being Dun Dun DONE!

Judd will get his mind gently massaged by the Desperado's F3 Amanda, McCrae and Elissa!

Last night their was a very lovely Hammock convo w/ Amanda and Elissa!
UUmm like totally NOT!?
While Amanda sincerely and profusely apologized for how she treated her...IMO
Elissa does not have the maturity and yes class to know how to accept an apology or give one....
It was annoyingly pain full to watch Elissa go on and on ....camera switch!

TOR: Spencer had a moment of how he thinks he is perceived by America...No it's far worse than you can ever imagine Spencer! While your reality show gets checked at the door, Like Arryn your in for a whole other reality outside.

Mon/OTR GM offensive comment on Elissa's son.....JUDD was the only one who asked her to stop! Their is the J U DD we love! right there in that moment.

@ Gaytor made some really great points on the " Andy's a RAT"! From Tues AR...I'll share My opinion later and then Duck!

Today I will be wearing my Sun Glasses as potential target votes get pumped full of sunshine") A phrase coined by Carolyn...me twinks.

September 4, 2013 at 8:33 AM  
Blogger brnidgrl said...

Good morning, Carolyn & Dish Buddies!
Shana Tova to all of you who celebrate the High Holy Days! :0)
GaYToR, you're absolutely correct about synonyms. I think that one reason could be that it's just easier to type three letters (especially on a cell phone, which I frequently am). In your honor, I shall endeavor to be more creative in my eviscerations of Andy henceforth, ok? ha ha ha ;o) He’s turned into a rottenly-snarky (he’s always been snarky, but it wasn’t nearly so vicious or mean earlier in the season) WEASEL.
Michigan Man, I LOVE "The Leftovers"!! Works better for me than what *they've* come up with. Oh, how I wish at least one of them had to be reaching for their life vest this week!! I can't even imagine how awful even BBAD will be once they're the Final 4. I probably won't even watch at that point (although it IS much like a train wreck, so I probably won't be able to turn away, either).
If Amanda does go out in the first eviction this week (and I’m pretty sure that’s a done deal at this point), then I hope she at least BLOWS UP Andy’s game not only on her way out of the BB house, but also within the jury house! I can’t imagine she won’t know by the time she’s on her way out the door that Andy did nothing but throw her under the bus for the last 2 weeks and I also can’t imagine that she won’t blast him for it. At this point, with the way he’s behaved over the last week with the Leftovers, it’s nothing less than he deserves, game-wise. If she does that, I don’t see him getting ANY jury votes once Helen, Jessie, & Candice find out how he’s acted lately. I used to really like you, Andy, but you’ve shown yourself to be as every bit as nasty as the rest of your Leftovers are and for that, you can follow Amanda right into jury house! Grendon, your comment yesterday that Andy probably doesn’t want to know what America thinks of him right now was 100% SPOT-ON! :o)
On a game note, I’m baffled that the true BB fans left (Andy, McCrea, and J-U-Double-Dunce) can’t seem to see that banding together to get Spencer the Permanent Pawn evicted is a smarter game move than taking out a bigger target like Amanda. Clearly, they are suffering from Big Brother Dementia (and whatever the hell ELSE is wrong with Judd since he came back!) or they wouldn’t even have thought twice about giving Spencer a one way ticket straight to jury house! Correct me if I’m wrong (seriously, please do), but isn’t it Conventional BB Wisdom that allowing a “Permanent Pawn” to get too far in the game will only come back to bite you in the arse?
As for Judd’s behavior last night, I’m wondering what he’s really so uncomfortable with doing that’s affecting him so strongly. Flipping off Skippy seems to have been his favorite thing to do last night – I saw at least 3 or 4 on the hour of BBAD that I watched! Others have speculated that maybe the DR is pressuring him to change his vote & that’s what has him pissed off. I’m not discounting the possibility of that at all. But, this just hit me - what if the, “I hate McCranda!” persona is a character he was fed by production coming back into the house??? What if he’s not dealing well with having to pretend he hates people that he really doesn’t? I know I’m not a good actress and couldn’t maintain a façade for that long, so if that’s Judd’s problem I can understand it. Just more food for thought from my fertile imagination…..
Thanks again, Carolyn, for all you do!!! <3

September 4, 2013 at 9:07 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

If I still have my sanity by the time this season ends it'll be a miracle. I started out shocked that I actually liked Elissa, then moved to thinking she was a total drama queen, and now I'm back to kind of liking her again. We were all about Amanda in the beginning, and then it quickly turned to that psycho needs to go, and now I'm back to hoping by some miracle she stays...

I've never been an Andy fan, I just don't like when someone's entire game seems to run around and rat people out for what they say. And I'm quite amazed that nobody has busted him on it. Are these HGs so absorbed in themselves they can't see it!?

And Carolyn, you must be a saint to have to transcribe some of the filth that has been said this season! These HGs have been rude and crude to the max!

September 4, 2013 at 9:19 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Lucky 13

We have been on opposite sides almost this entire season. I have never found you to be rude, confrontational, pushy or...wrong. You have an opinion and that's that. Opinions can't be wrong because they aren't cut and dried like, well...math. You have never made me feel stupid when we have chatted and I hope you don't ever feel like you shouldn't post because you are in the minority. In BB, sometimes the minority can quickly change to the majority.

September 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM  
Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

From TOR --

"Skippy keeps the quad on the Exterminators long enough for me to dread the final 2 weeks and hope like hell for an upset Thursday night."

I must've been sleep-typing again. That wouldn't have made the cut from my conscious brain.

September 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Shi Shi

I'm with you. It's not Andy's game move that is bothering me, it's the personal 'slams' that bother me. I realize he hasn't said things that would be considered offensive in the same sense as a lot of the others. But I think the things he is saying are going to be more hurtful because he is directing those comments mostly at McCrae and Amanda. They have trusted him and stuck by him and I believe they consider him a friend. If they had stabbed him in the back gamewise, it would make more sense to be trash talking them. If he plain and simply does not approve of Amanda as a person and now that he doesn't have to pretend to be on her side, I guess that would even explain his attitude to some degree. But then, look who he is aligned with now-Spencer and GM. They have also trash talked, they have made offensive sexual comments, they have made racist and homophobic comments, they have taken it personal with GM talking about Elissa's son and Candice's adoption.

It has just left me wondering what Andy is hoping to prove. A big game move that probably won't get him any closer to the end than his original alliance. Distancing himself from people he finds to be offensive while hanging out with people that are every bit as offensive. It doesn't make sense. He is losing favor with a lot of fans-some who don't like the disloyalty, some who appreciate the game move but don't like the change in his personality.

Don't feel funny about how this game affects you. I have felt so tense at times that it was all I could think or talk about. About the only thing we don't agree on is season 9 (but I seem to be in a fan club consisting of only me with that season). I LOVED me some Crazy James.

September 4, 2013 at 9:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats with these house guest calling each other *unts and *itches? They are so stupid everything they say is being taped. They are all in for a rude awakening, well except for Elissa she's the only decent human in that house

September 4, 2013 at 9:46 AM  
Blogger Lulu (aka Stefanie) said...

@Lucky13, I am with you all the way!! I have grown to see the gamer in Andy, rather than the rat. I kind of thought of how he had to do what he had to do to advance his game (what he knows to do from an "in-the-house" perspective, not the Dishers' perspective).
I have also always been a Judd fan. Yes he is a little more on edge since coming back in the house, but I think that, coupled with the lack of cigarettes, has put him in a mood, but I do think that if the plan to evict Amanda is followed through, we might see him in a better mood.
Spencer, I have never hated SPencer. I respect those who do, and it's not like I will defend his vulgarity, but I guess I just take it with a grain of salt. I'm not easily offended when I know that I don't associate myself with the names he uses to refer to women. I also think that much of the problem this year has been that no one truely knows how to be themselves in that house, and that is part of Spencer's problem...he talks with such foulness because he gets the laughs, where in turn, I think people who normally wouldn't laugh at such material, laugh because they don't want to stand out as a stick in the mudd.
I was glad to see Judd and Andy finally speak up (even if it was only to divert the conversation) when GM made those nasty comments regarding Elissa's son.
As for GM, this is where I feel bad. I am from NJ (southern, so I don't completely get her environment or mentality) but I completely believe she (more than Aaryn) is a product of her environment (not just of Northern NJ, this is not a "Texas" thing, but of her family, friends and the lack of education). This does not excuse or defend what she had said. Just like I felt with Aaryn, she should be accountable for her comments, and final judgement should be reserved for how to she chooses to face what she has said (own it and learn, or make excuses).
But after all of this, I am able to root for the Exterminators.
My opinion of Amanda was that I didn't much like her in the beginning of the game, and part of it was personal, because I felt her personality reflected people I have grown apart from in my life (demanding people who resort to childish behavior when they don't get their way). However, I will FULLY admit she has played the best game of those left in the house, but because I wasn't a fan early, I found myself rooting against her, and that is where I remain, which may be why I am rooting for the Exterminators.
McCrae, I still think my sister could beat him in a sleeping contest, but he is a close second.
Elissa - My jury is still out on her. I don't dislike her, but I also don't love her.
So that leaves me with rooting for the Exterminators.

Basically my rant was just to prove to you that you are not alone! lol

September 4, 2013 at 9:46 AM  
Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

G'morning, everyone!! :)

ok.. going by the wake up trend, I'm guesstimating 10:40am.. after which the HGs ought to sleep for at least another hour..

I wanna get a quick bike ride in..

September 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


Asleep or not, you are allowed to express any opinion you want. I found it quite amusing. I suppose that could be because I agree. But it seems that this year you are going to get slammed if you agree, disagree or if you transcribe only the facts with no comments at all. Someone might yell at you because you typed a question mark instead of a period and changed the whole meaning of the sentence. I say, comment any way you see fit. It is, after all, your blog.

September 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM  
Blogger Lucky13 said...


Thank you so much for saying that. I appreciate it. As you said, we've basically been on opposite sides, but I still enjoy and look forward to your posts. They are always well thought out and eloquently stated.

Here's to two more weeks of BB madness, surprises, frustrations, conspiracies and everything else that comes with this crazy game. The only thing I'm dreading is the end of all of our interaction here at BBDish. It's usually around Thanksgiving before I FINALLY give up checking the blog for ANY update or BB tidbit that Carolyn may want to share. I'm just hoping CBS will bring our favorite show back next summer with a better, extremely less offensive, more versatile set of houseguests. Let's start praying now. :-)

September 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM  
Blogger Lucky13 said...

Thank you Lulu (aka Stefanie). We seem to be two peas in a pod. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts as well!

September 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM  
Blogger SushiUshi said...

Good morning all!
My first day back to school and I am using my first break to catch up on bb dish- go figure. Don't worry, your kids are safe in my hands- see how I even used the correct forms of 'your and kids"- :)
wowza- this game can really throw you for a loop. Agree with so much of what people have said, and respect so much of others opinions.
I think I am having a hard time right now because while Andy and Judd would definitely be deemed the "least offensive'- I just don't find them as likable. I know that's personal, and I try to separate it from game play- but it's not always easy.
Accepting that Amanda has gone out the door- I find myself hoping for an underdog upset on Thursday and Elissa and Mccrae team up. There has become such an air of smug arrogance with the exterminators lately, that it has blinded them to the reality of the situation. For all of Andy's dislike of Helen's "Good vs. evil"- that's just what it has become.
I see Judd struggle every night on the feeds and wonder who he really is. just when i think he has gone over the edge, he has a meaningful conversation with Amanda and I see the judd i really used to care for. Unfortunately, these exchanges have recently been followed up with him calling her a "whore, slutt, ..." and worse behind her back.
The conversation with Elissa/Amanda on the hammock was too funny. It was sweet and kind on one hand, but the way Elissa went on and on and on was just too much. I think Amanda may have paid her dues for every misdeed this summer in listening to Elissa for an entire hour ramble on and on and on. Made my night.
Thank you Grendon, Shi Shi, Matt, brnid, Kimberly, just to name a few. Agree or disagree, I always enjoy reading your thoughts on events.

September 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM  
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September 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM  
Blogger starfishsky said...

Grendon - I was also a Crazy James fan. I loved when he jumped out of that box!

September 4, 2013 at 10:15 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Ladies and gentlemen may I make a comment concerning Elissa's comment about they would have brought me back. Of course they would have. They would have brought her back to the very competition she won. She would have beat Judd and she won that HOH. Could it rally be that easy?

September 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Ladies and gentlemen may I suggest when Elissa comments that they would have brought her back. Look at past history she won that HOH. She would have beat Judd as the returning evicted hg and she won the HOH.
Could it be that simple?

September 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


I have never given up hoping that there will be another all stars and he will be invited back.

September 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM  
Blogger Lulu (aka Stefanie) said...

I definitely second Grendon's post to Carolyn about her saying whatever she wants. Yes, it is your blog, and the majority of those who follow your blog love you and what you do regardless of whether or not we root for the same houseguests. I love your humor, especially!! <3 and thank you for all that you do!

September 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Brian said...
It's actually going to be 5774 (not 5773). It will take me a while to get used to writing that on my checks.


September 4, 2013 at 4:26 AM

Thank you Brian. I was confused. Our Princess is rarely wrong but she is under a lot of stress with all the smartasses attacking her. Now we all know to write 5774.

Thank you sflewie. Knowing I am not alone makes me feel less crazy with my thoughts. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not but I'll contemplate it as I look over your blog. :-O

Jumbo I understand and I can respect your disagreement about DR. Honestly, none of us know for sure and while I believe what Jun said about her season and the non-interference, I also believe things can change over the years. CBS/Fly on the Wall/AGP/etc. are in the business to make increasingly better ratings to justify staying on the air. With that in mind I can believe anything is possible. I wish an insider would write a definitive book either supporting or debunking the truth from the rumors.

And thank you for showing some support for Andy. What he has done could be good or bad, depending on how things go to the finish line. Andy is now, with a lot of luck, master of his own fate. He's going to have to fight hard to get to the end, but that is true about anyone who actually does get to F2, and who they take can be the difference in success and failure.

I do look back and count the number of jury members who vote for the best player vs. who they feel has betrayed them, and in my count, when they settle down from the anger of being outplayed they usually go with the better decision of the best played. Of course there are always exceptions to that, every year, but the majority of the jury votes fairly, or at least that's the way I remember the Finales.

Yasmin I'm glad you spoke up and that I was in some way a catalyst for you to do so. Speaking up with your own opinion is one thing you can always do at The Dish. I have differing views almost every season but it never stops me from getting serious and stating my mind, especially as the season gets closer to the end. I never feel I need to curtail or censor my thoughts as long as I follow the rules. I often fear I have made life more difficult for Carolyn but if I have, she has never let me know about it or try to shut me down. I know I disagree even with her at times but she still hits the publish button on me when the serious debates start. I test her early on in the season and I am the first to admit I've been deservedly spanked by her. (Sometimes I make a comment knowing she won't publish it just so I can giggle and hope I can give her a giggle also.) What I don't know is how much grief she has to go through for doing so. I would hope none, but in my heart I know better. I'm not up on the Litany of Saints but if ever there was a Jewish woman who made it to Sainthood, it should be Carolyn. I know, like everyone else that knows her here that she deserves it.

So, Yasmin, speak your mind. It feels so much better than holding it in and allowing things to fester until you get so angry you want to leave and you end up with ulcers. ;-)

That covers the earlier Tuesday Afternoon Blog comments. Now to see what everyone has said in TOR.


September 4, 2013 at 11:02 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...


I think Elissa has fooled you. She is trying to get some numbers. She is trying to save Amanda. This has nothing to do with jury

September 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...

Lucky 13

Its ok. I dont think I was posting here bb9, but maybe I was? But I called Adam for the win the first night of AfterDark and was team Adam Ryan all the way. Im sure I was in the minority. I also liked Chatty and hated James and Chelsia

September 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM  
Blogger Yasmin said...

Thanks Again... No leaving for me...its a agree to disagree BB dish home!

September 4, 2013 at 11:46 AM  
Blogger Jumbo said...


The only allstar from that season is Adam.

September 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM  
Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

Something told me to stay put.. I did. There's a new top post. :)

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September 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

absolutely! your comments always make me smile

September 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM  
Blogger AmiLrn said...

I missed it! Would have loved to see it. Gonna go search the net for it. Thanks for making me aware :)

September 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM  
Blogger AmiLrn said...

So you mean that maybe all she meant by comment was that she would have come back during that comp if she had already been in the jury and did NOT mean it as there is a conspiracy to keep her on the show? Hmmm you are right! It could have been as simple as that!

September 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM  

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