The BB10 Morning Report for July 17th
(singing) Tiny bubbles...9:08am
Wakey wakey, houseguests! It's time to entertain the live feed viewers! And the wake up music this morning? The theme song to Saved By the Bell. And here we thought AGP and CBS wanted to steer clear of the adult entertainment thing this year. ;)
Renny's about to get some company. I hope she enjoyed her 90 minutes of wakeful peace.
9:24am BBT
They're up! Right Said Fred, "I'm too Sexy for My Shirt" also made an appearance in the wake up music lineup. LOL, production! Nice nod to Jessie's tear off during the PoV Comp the other night.
9:26am BBTKITCHEN
Keesha, Jerry, Renny, Memphis
Light chatter... Folks making coffee and breakfast. Jerry's all dressed and tucked in.
BATHROOM
Libra & April. Jerry enters...
Morning routines all around.
Everyone's kinda milling back n forth between the 2 locations.
The BB "I said it's time to wake up" calls should start soon for the stragglers.
Steven joins the bathroom crew.
9:35am-9:42am BBT
KITCHEN
Memphis, Keesha, Libra, Michelle
Topic? Milks... Soy, skim, you name it. lol.
And we move on to where folks grew up and live. Keesha lives in Toluca Lake/NHwd... That's spitting distance from Radford. She could hop the fence and be home in 10 minutes. Memphis says he lives pretty close too.
Talk turns to traffic... Ah the pleasures of idle chatter.
9:45am BBT
BATHROOM
Libra & April, then Renny joins
Libra's still a bit tweaked about Julie's question last night... and all that it implies.
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9:57am BBT
BATHROOM
Keesha, April & Libra
Keesha's re-connecting. She says she wants to have a girls night with them. Nice light chatter. April seems receptive.
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10am BBT
KITCHEN
Jerry & Angie
Jerry woke up tired, and he's Jerry's complaining about Ollie's snoring. He asks if she knows what the decision was last night, but the response wasn't audible.
Jerry: Are they picking on you?
Angie: It is what it is.
Michelle passes through.
Jerry and Angie discuss how mental fatigue is so much more profound than physical fatigue. You can't get away from this game, even when you're sleeping.
Jerry: I'm moving slow this morning. I wonder what kind of competition we're having. If it's just food... Someone may get a chance for a slop pass.
Angie: How was your first night downstairs?
Jerry: It was ok. A little cold. I don't need luxury. I didn't like it up there. It's isolation. You have no idea what's going on down here, except what you're told.
Angie: I just felt so ill yesterday... It just goes to show you how much to value your friends and family back home.
Jerry refers back to BB8 Dani's comment, "I hate everybody in here."
It's a really nice exchange between the two of them. I recommend tuning in on the feeds if you're home... or at work - lol.. as long as your boss doesn't mind.
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10:27am BBT
Hippy Room
Libra & Keesha
Talking about the questions in the HoH Comp last night.
BB: Jessie, please go to the Diary Room.
Libra: I'm sure I wouldn't be America's choice. Especially after the question they asked me last night.
Renny enters...
FISHIES @ 10:28am BBT - Comp instructions, perhaps?
10:32am BBT
Feeds are back, and the HGs are talking about the comp. Sounds like it's food.
10:36am BBT
Hippy Room
Keesha & Renny
A little dishing about April & Libra, I believe.
Renny: She tells her anything she wants to hear... like she could be a model.
Keesha: I know. Just not gonna let it get to me anymore.
Renny: They're the 2 biggest game players here.
Keesha: I know. Did you see the way she jumped into Jessie's arms when he won Hoh? I'm like, dude, seriously? Whatever.
Renny: Whatever will be will be.
Keesha: Everything happens for a reason, right?
Keesha passes through the pink room, sees Angie...
Keesha: Hi Honey. How're you doing this morning?
Angie: Better than yesterday.
Keesha: I'm just tryin to keep my mouth shut.
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10:40am BBT
Kitchen
Michelle, Ollie
Talking about the comp. It's supposed to start really soon.
Here's hoping since it's a food comp, they'll show some on the feeds, like last season. :)
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10:42am BBT
LIVING RM
Angie, Dan, Jessie
Bible Buddies 2.0, complete with another annotated bible.
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11:00am BBT
Hippy Room
Steven & Angie
Both of them are feeling pretty down about the whole situation in the house.
Steven: They just have nothing but hate in their bodies, and I don't want to be around them. The girls have the guys wrapped around their fingers.
Angie: I learned yesterday that perception takes over the mind, but in reality that may not be the case. It's just what they want us to believe.. to make sure we keep our distance. After the conversations I had last night, I'm convinced every person in the house is full of b.s.
Steven: It's not that I think I'm gonna be on the block.. I'm pretty sure I'm not.
This conversation is ongoing on the feeds.
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11:16am BBT
Kitchen/Dining Rm
Everyone Else...
The HGs are waiting on the comp. Chatter about pets.
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11:20am BBT
Hippy Room
Steven & Angie
Steven: Ultimately, these are all good people. They're just in a really weird situation.
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11:31am BBT
Steven & Angie leave the room...
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11:32am BBT
Kitchen/Dining
Michelle, Ollie, Libra, April, Jessie
HGs are in and out and talking about their families.
Libra's talking about her kids, and how her 4 year old melts her husbands heart every time she says, "I love you, my daddy."
Steven joins the kitchen crew. Angie too.
Jerry's resting on a couch with dozens of pillows.
Steven: Did they say what we were gonna wear or anything?
Libra: I asked em if we were gonna get outfits, and they said maybe.
Steve: (laughs) maybe.
Ollie's worried a guy might have to wear a dress.
- ***If you haven't been into the comments section yet today, you're missing out. The discussion in there at the moment (on this post) is all about Mom's opinions of Libra's decision. Good Stuff.
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11:45am BBT
Dining Room
Memphis, Libra, Ollie, Michelle, Keesha
Talkin about food... Taco Bell... Whole Foods aka Whole Paycheck.
Waiting on the comp!
11:53am BBT
FISHIES!
Still fishies at 11:57am...
12:03pm BBT
Feeds are back. Opening a new post for the afternoon.
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 9:12 AM
96 Comments:
Good morning!
1st thing – The Real Deal, your weekly recap was Awesome!! Loved it!
Did anyone else get annoyed with Michelle’s baby voice a couple of nights ago when Jerry was cleaning her cut foot? Oh my Lord! I hate girls that use baby talk thinking it’s cute.
And Jessie! Last night in the HOH room he said that he would never put a girl before himself!?! Jessie my dear, you would never put anyone before yourself! Please God don’t let him have children.
Ahh..just heard the morning wakeup music. They played “Saved by the Bell” theme song. Yuck.
Hey this is my first post but I had to sign up as soon as I read piper's comment about the baby voice!!! Ughhhh....she is so annoying, and she only used it with the men. As I was watching I thought I was looking at someone with multiple personality disorder, it was really strange!Jerry, on the other hand, seemed to like it, and if I was his wife or daughters I would be upset with his behavior, any chance he gets he's kissing the girls or telling them how pretty they are, wispering in their ear...CREEEPPPYYYY!!! Anywho, I love this site and the afterdark showtime stuff! Can't wait to comment more now that I'm all signed up! Have a great day everyone!
I agree, it was nice to see Jessie tear off his shirt last night, it was also nice to see him and Memphis rolling around in honey!
where do i find jerrys blog and photos at???
Did anyone watch the Evel Dick Real Player broadcast last night?
If so, how was it?
Arrrggghhhh I hate the lull now from today until Sunday!!!!! :-\ I don't like this schedule...they need to spread out the shows a little more. I would like the schedule to be Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday...don't u all agree?
C=Venus great chop.
I was looking for his blog and photos also!
Last night Jessie was being immature about wanting Renny out. But on the other hand, this is HIS hoh so he should be allowed to put up who he wants. Now, that decision should be made taking his alliance members into consideration. That still points back to Steven, but I just didn't like how everyone seemed to bully Jessie. I'm not a fan of Jessie, but he doesn't deserve to be bullied.
I couldn't stand how the girls were being so judgemental and pretty much telling Keesha who she can and can't talk to or be friends with. Kudos to Keesha for sticking up for what she believes and feels in her heart. Loved it when she told Libra & April that the outside crew were saying positive things and not tearing people apart.
My favorites as it stands now are Angie, Dan, Steven, and Keesha. Michelle is getting on my last nerve, she seems to pop up everywhere in everybody's business.
Lisa - What Lull? This is when everything happens on the feeds!
Nominations & possible food comp are today, Veto Comp tomorrow... Saturday's pretty chill, then PoV Ceremony on Sunday.
Awww, I was enjoying the fishies.
Is Mr. Belding going to be the special Houseguest?
I think Jessie needs to put up who he wants to put up, not what everyone is telling him.
GREAT RECAP!! I was smiling the whole time and Already missing Brian. Come on...you Know he made things FUN!!! (Well, at least at the end)
BBAD was so boring. The All About Jessie Show! Notice how someone sent him some shirts? Too bad he won't actually wear them.
What is with "The Crock Flock" upstairs? I have never met a more immature group of people. And if Jessie was a real MAN, he would attempt to think with his BRAIN and not his MUSCLES and stir things up. (NOBODY HAD GUTS LIKE THE MASTER, E.D.!!) At least he's wise about keeping things from Libra. Now if Nosy Michelle will just keep her mouth shut and stay true to J/M/A/M Alliance and not give any clues to Libra. Actually, I think they should kick out Michelle and bring in Dan...but Michelle would implode and use her "baby voice" personality for the rest of the show!
Carolyn, hope you're enjoying house sitting and looking at the beach. Here in Destin, it takes me about 10 min. to get my tootsies in the sand!
We think some were getting b*tchy? Wait til they get on slop! Take cover peeps! :)
Morning BB family!! UGHH!!! Libra gets on my nervs just as bad as Michelle does! and I wish Jesse would play his own game. Nominate who he wants. TTFN. XOXOXO
D - pvt - yes, you can.. :) as long as your boss doesn't mind. ;)
YaY! I made it through traffic court and didn't see the inside of the jail cell. WHEW! But what a confusing process for someone who has driven for 37 years and never had a moving violation. New Court Date... Sept 4th.
So just as I made my final post last night I predicted all of Jessie's pics would be of himself in posing positions. I wasn't far off. And all he could talk about seemed to be those pics and his weight loss and gain. I made it through that part because I knew the Flock of Seagulls (or C-Girls... they don't rate a B list) started in on their decisions of who needs to go and how and when. What a group of b*tches!
I missed the outside people saying nice things and wish I had heard it. Thank you as always Carolyn for reporting without bias. I know it can be difficult, especially with Steven and his crass vocabulary aka stupidity.
I'm off to watch AMC and listen to the feeds. I love closed captioning. I can read what is being said on AMC and hear the BB noises. I'm looking forward to some drama today.
I hope Jessie comes to his senses and does what HE wants. Renny really needs to go this week. She reminds me of someone from last year who was trying to be everyone's mother. (Rolling my eyes. Someone please roll them back to me.)
Amen Genie. I'm hoping the Flock of C-Girls all get on slop. they will all be needing enemas.
C-Venus... Loved the chop!
:o)
Does anyone know where the HOH diary is on the CBS website this year?... is there one?
I'm sorry. I don't feel bad for Angie. She had/has the best chance to win this game but she just comes across as a whiny snob.
The thing about alliances is that you can't recruit everyone. An alliance should only consist of 4 people working different parts of the house.
I'm so glad Brain is gone. I hate it when people come into the house and try to imitate pass players of the game.
Just want to say if Jessie wants to do the right thing he should call up Steven, Angie, Dan and Jerry and get them into his alliance with Michelle and Memphis and then get the other 5 out first. That is 5 weeks of justs picking them off, if he is lucky, and then go for the others ones. Making sure he brings Jerry in first so they have the numbers and it will be Jessie, Memphis, Michelle and Jerry for the final 4. Now that would be fun to watch!!!!!
I want Memphis to win!!! He is just using Jessie!!! I love it!
Michelle dancing for the cameras is making me a little sick too!!!!
Dan has the personality of a wet mop. He's about as interesting as Mike from BB8. I think when they cast him, they thought he would be a good antagonist to Steven. The gay guy vs. religious guy.
I like Jessie. At least he knows he's cocky, self centered and doesn't apologizes for it.
Im quickly liking Keesha more and more and a little more. Can't really tell you why though.
I'd be enjoying the feeds like the rest of you since i'm at work and don't have anything to do, but my connection speed is still just short of the requirments. So I continually time out at 33% loading... :( :( so instead of enjoying the madness, i just get to go crazy waiting til i can get home and enjoy the feeds again. Damn this Co.
Id be curious as to what the moms bloggin on here thought about Libra's decision to leave her 2 infant children at home to go on BB. any care to share their thoughts? any minds changed by her explanation?
I am glad to see I am not the only one looking for the HOH blog and pics. Seems to me like CBS needs to get it together!
lilbets
I am with you on Michelle (who I liked at first... but her crap talking about Angie has gotten to me).
People now... how many 75 years old friends do you know who have a MySpace or blog? I doubt Jerry is very tech savvy. Oooops. ME BAD. I forgot Jerry was HoH. It's not like he ran the place and this is why my comment is as above.
scary bunnies
The EVEL show won't start until next week.
And now to my judgmental side...
As somebody who has studied the early stages of child development... I could in no way leave my 5 months old behind for 3 months. This early on is when the true bonding takes place, and no dad or family in the world is the replacement of a MOM. So, need I say I question Libra's judgment on this one thing. For real.
Morning Mike!! Your right about Jessie knowing he is cocky, ect...my thing with him right now is he is not thinking for himself, he is just letting the others run his HOH. I would like to see him shake things up a little otherwise this is going to be a very predictable season. I kind of feel like he is afraid to make a move, but I think the comps are really between Memphis and him...not really sure how the others are going to do.
If you go to Libra's myspace, it explains why she went to BB.
While it might be hard to do, if I had to chance to win $500K, I would probably go, too. I hold nothing against her for going.
It's her life, we don't have to live it.
Morning Carolyn. Added the new widget to my myspace again this season. JSYK, Myspace wasn't working for me yesterday, either.
Charlie, I can only give my personal opinion for me. My kids are older now (24 & 25), but when they were babies there is NOTHING that could have taken me away from them. But, that is me. My kids were my life and as far as I was concerned I was the only one who could take care of them right, especially at 4 or months old. To me that is a crucial bonding time.
Okay people, this is just me and my opinion. I was a stay-at-home mom for all the years my kids were home, that was my job and I am very proud of that job I did.
p.s. also very fortunate to be able to do it ;)
In regards to Libra and her babies I say to each is own. She knows what her family needs and maybe they need the money. Im not mad at her. Plus, she might have been tryin out for years and just now made the cut because of the babies??
Thanks I was just curious as to how others saw that decision. I wonder if its somewhat of a generational issue.
Im somewhat surprised that the other hgs havent made it more of an issue and thus a target on her. Like well lets send Libra home to raise those children properly, that kinda thing. But i suppose that requires a deeper level of thought as to which mirror is best for makeup and manscaping ;)
I'm liking Steven again. I love his pep talk with Angie. He is showing such compassion, and self-awareness. I do not like the ignoranct comments he has made, but I am seeing another side that I like.
Angie needs to get out of this funk. I think she doesn't want to be in the game anymore. Can't say I blame her.
rayrayfad
the sad thing is...
LIBRA WILL NOT win the money. She is too controlling to make it that far. Unfortunate for her and the babies.
Charlie -- a mom here with grown children. My thoughts are that it is her life and her situation. I cannot imagine doing it myself, but that is me. I don't know her in "real" life, so can't presume to understand her reasonings or judge her for her decision.
On another note. In a previous post we were chatting about the age differences of the houseguests and how they sometimes dismissed each other because of that. In reading this last post, something struck me as profound ...
"Keesha: ... I'm like, dude, seriously? Whatever.
Renny: Whatever will be will be."
I guess we can all relate, even if we speak different languages, lol!
charlie
I'll take the mom question about Libra..I'm a mother of four children and a set of twins..(mine are teens now) we talked here at home about that same thing lastnight..
My children asked Mom would you have done it? I said: YES! First my husband would be great taking care of them while I was gone..and he would have had help from people I love and trust to help take care of them...
Second...I believe Mom's can have a life outside of motherhood..others do it all the time..Mom's that go on business trips..actresses that go to a set for months without their children...etc..
I think its great Libra is on Big Brother..whether she wins or not she had a chance she should not have given up on because she has babies..She'll be home to them soon enough..and I'm sure they are being wonderfully cared for..
And..my children do not remember being five months old....I asked them..so they would not remember if I had gone for that short time..nor will hers..
I would have done it..and I see nothing wrong with her doing it..I wish her the best of luck in her quest to better her family..and if nothing else I hope she has the time of her life!
I don't think Libra should be judged for what she is doing. Her family could be financially struggling so she did this to take a chance in order to better their situation. I don't think she should be faulted for that.
Wow, Steven is really clueless if he thinks his name hasn't been thrown around for being put up.
Sorry about my comment earlier, I was under another google account hehehehe
I am not judging Libra, Charlie's question was to other mother's...just wanted to point that out. I could not do it just because I am neurotic and believe that I needed to do that job when the kids were that young.
I think that it's not a big deal that Libra has children but chose to do the show. The babies are with her husband who is their father. He is just as capable to take care of his own children. Her mom is there too to help out when needed so I don't think it's a big deal.
Quick question...how much space does downloading the live feeds take up?? I know this may seem random, but I am visiting my parents at the moment because I just had surgery. I would love to try out the 2 week trial but my mom always complains that I mess up her computer (which I don't!!!)...so I don't want to download anything major onto the comp. If anyone could answer this that would be wonderful!!!
PS: I asked my children what do they think? Should Libra have gone..and how they felt about me saying I would have done it..
They said Libra should be there..and they think had I made the same choice they would have loved it..they would known I did it for them..because I love them...
One Mom's perspective..here..LOL
Sorry Rhonda, I wasn't directing that towards you, I was just stating my personal feelings :-P
About Libra's babies ... first off, if we want a show that isn't just 22 year old aspiring actor/waiters the people coming in are going to be leaving things that some of us question. Frankly I question anyone nuts enough to do this show, for any amount of money.
But people make choices and we have no clue what was behind her decision making. I'm sure it wasn't easy. While I think it is open season on everything they do in the house - that family decision is none of our business.
People are going to be rough on her, and I feel for her in this one issue. Everyone self examine and evaluate your own choices. No doubt we all have things going on others would find contemptable.
Not that my opinion makes a difference, I'm sure she'll get tons of crap that she couldn't have imagined.
Uh, Steven doesn't want to play the game for a few days? I think he signed up for the wrong reality tv show.
Brian may have been arrogant and overconfident. But I miss him already (he gave good quotes!). At least he was playing! Funny that he got eliminated for "playing" everyone. Kinda the game!!!
I'm watching the live feeds for the first time. I'm going to waste a lot of time doing this...LOL.
Well, Mine may not be from a Moms view, But my partner and I have a 5year old and I get upset when Im at work and not with him so I could not do it. I get upset when I have to leave erly for work and he dosent put the right cloths on our son for school. UGGGGG... Drives me crazy. lol I would be thinking the whole 3 months how he is dressing him for school.
I'm a stay at home also and I have a 3 year old. I would jump at the chance to go on big brother. My husband is a dentist in the military and currently deployed. If you didn't know people in the military aren't that high up there on the pay scale. I would do anything I could to make sure that my son has the best chance in life to do what he wants. My husband came from a very low class family and couldnt afford college. So I would def do it.I think every parent agrees when I say my child deserves a better life than I had and maybe Libra wants to give them that.
I apologize rayray and your're right i should have asked about a parent's perspective.
rayrayfad..
loved your response to the mom question..yours is a parents perspective and I loved it..thanks for sharing it :-)
you have a good point there..my husband once dressed my daughters in plaid shirts with polka dot skirts..
I am SAHM, I have a 3 yr old and an 11 yr old. If i had the oppurtunity to do BB, I'd jump at the chance. My situation may be similar to Libra's. My husband is an awesome father, and my parents are very involved in my children's lives. It helps that they live a block away! i know they would be left in good hands.
i'm not sure if anyone brought up this point or not but ...
if Libra's husband were in the house instead of her - would anyone be questionning why he left his children at home to be taken care of by their loving mother and other family members? i think not. why is it a father can have his own seperate life and no one says anything but if a mother leaves her children for a little while, to be taken care of by their father that that is controversial?
i'm not a mother, i will be someday though, i hope - and i find it sad how when a woman becomes a mother, society expects her to toss aside all other aspects of her life that may define her and just solely be seen as mother or wife ... good for Libra for not only doing something for herself - but also for her family and steping outside that box and just being ALL of herself.
: )
I'm loving this discussion...
Anon@11:50 - you meant to refer to your hubby's family as low income, not low class, right?
Hope you don't mind me adding a comment on topic of last night.
Last night, I could barely watch. It was pure hate from the upstairs crew (ollie, April, Libra, Michelle, jessie)
Downstairs, Keesha, Angie, Stevan, Dan, Renny are having a nice conversation saying positive things about people, talking about real world stuff. While upstairs they are dictating what Keesha is doing, they are downstairs talking crap about them... all this stuff.
This morning, Stevan just keeps talking nice things about the other side, saying in the end they are nice people. I mean, Stevan is a bit dumb with his words, but he is no means racist I don't think. ONLY comment he said out of anger was 'that colored girl.' Everything else it was in joking manner when they are all having fun.
I can't like the upstairs crew. They spew hate and judge everyone so much it's horrible. (Angie is a bad person! she liked Brian! Keesha likes Angie! OMG she is so horrible!)
It's atrocious to watch.
Interesting point about the dad - we have some pretty strong feelings in our culture about moms versus dads. I bet if it were her husband on the show no one would question it (maybe even give him sympathy). But a lot of dads these days would and should get pretty pissed at that attitude. I'm not minimizing the importance of bonding, but those kids have a loving parent taking care of them for what may be three months, or three weeks.
There are a whole lot of dads out there divorced, primary care givers, and such, who are infuriated with the way we put mom above dad.
I'm not drawing any conclusions about what's right or wrong. Just making an observation. We want dads to participate and yet don't give them the credit when they do.
I am a mom of 5 kids. Mine are 13, 11, 10 and a set of 8 year old twins. I too would jump at the opportunity of being on bb. I am a stay at home mom with a WONDERFUL hubby who is also a WONDERFUL father! We also have a very supportive family who lives within a block of us...I would do it in a NEW YORK minute (with their blessings of course!)
Gosh! I hope they let us watch the food comp!
Guess I was typing as Katie Elizabeth was already posting. I could have just said Dito.
Libra did not deposit her babies on the doorstep of some orphanage to go on a vacation. She made an informed decision with the help of her loved ones to take this chance and try to better her family's circumstances. She has left her babaies n the hands of her loving husband and family with their consent and support.
If it were her husband in this position, would there be fingers pinted in his direction?
There are a lot of things I admire about Libra's game play, and a lot I do not. I do not feel that I am qualified to judge her decisions outside of the game, as I have not walked a mile in her flip flops. :)
Hello ReporterX and all the BB10 commentors.
You guys have made me a bigger fan of Big Brother than I wanted to be.....LOL. I got the free trial today because I didn't want to be left out of the conversation when the live feeds are on.
This years group is not as immature as BB9. I don't think all of them are looking to become stars after the show. They all are somewhat grounded in their real lives.
My favorite contestant so far is Memphis and I really don't dislike any of the other houseguest, but give me a couple of more weeks. I really don't think you have to be vulgar or nasty to win this game. I think if you're clever enough and wade yourself through the minefield, you can win without having to tearing someone down.
:)
I could not do it because I have to be in charge at home if I want things done right. To-Do List just dont work for my Steve, but Im all for her doing it. I like Libra a lot. She is bossy and all, but she is a mother with a 4 year old and twins so I understand. Dads can raise children just as good as mothers so I see no harm done there. Im sure her husband is doing just fine.
My husband would dress himself in plaid shirts with polka dot shorts, lol.
Bama Smooch
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about the mom thing......I was like Rhonda, I stayed at home with my only child....this was also 25 years ago and it was a different world.....I had the fortunate ability to do that, but I'm not so sure it would be the same choice today...it was exactly right for me at the time....
I would hope that Libra and her family entered into this after much discussion and weighing the pros and cons (of which there are many for each and every HG!)....
I still would not have been able to leave two tiny babes and a toddler.....but if she thinks she is doing her best that's all she can do....after all, that's all any of us can do.....our own personal best!
....and thanx to you Carolyn for all your hard work....I'm enjoying my second round with all of you...I ran across this blog last season and it made me see the whole game differently.....WOW!...
not much like what we see on the network sometimes!!!!
i think a lot of us thought of the same point at the same time haha
: )
good points all around!
and great minds think a like ; )
I just heard another of 'Jerry's Jeriatrics' for TRD on the live feeds (about 3:10 EST) "What a man won't do for a piece of ass!" LOL!
I said earlier that I could not have left mine, but don't fault Libra for her choice.
Have been thinking why I couldn't have done it. Well, hate to admit it but I am also a little of a control freak. Who could have done it better than me? And, oh no, what if someone else was able to take care of them as well as me?
That made me think that this must have been a VERY TOUGH decision for Libra with her control issues -- or what appear to be issues with her behavior so far in the house.
mikeinbama!! welcome to the addiction!! don't ya just love it???
ltcmek LMFAO..
Carolyn..we love you too :-) thanks for giving us the best darn blog to comment on!
My take on Libra's decision - Why Not? She is a grown woman and has a husband at home - NO ONE would have thought the same if the roles were reversed, the husband there instead of Libra. Reverse discrimination is just as bad as the other way. I read what her husband wrote on her myspace about that question, and he said it all very well. What she will miss is a few firsts, not that many, sitting up mainly, they don't usually crawl until after 8 months, and the babies might, might say mama or dada but I doubt it. That is what video is for all that - besides they can look at mama on TV on occasion when she isn't being so controlling!! LOL!
Everyone turn away, Carolyn and I are going to smooch on each other.
Carolyn - Blogstar!
Posters - hugs all aropund!
mike... umm.. can you make you picture a little bigger please? *grin*
BTW my kids are grown with their own kids - I wouldn't have gone on BB, but who could pass that kind of money up? I just don't disagree with her decision, but I don't know if I would have done it then when they were little, my family and my husband's family were not that close to us physically to be able to help. Maybe - it would depend on the situation.
I came on here to comment simply because I was so annoyed at what Julie Chen said to Libra last night. how DARE she insinuate that people watching would think she is less of a mother for doing the show! Like other people are saying on here, if a dad left his three children to do the show no one would bat an eye. here, she has a supportive husband and family, why shouldn't she do something that could be a positive not only for herself (being a mother to children that young has got to be though!), but she could be bringing more money to family in the end! Anyone know what the stipend for being on the show is? How much you want to bet that even if she doesn't win the stipend is more than her weekly income? I'd do it just for that!
Genie: LMAO I agree..
I wear glasses mikeinbama..I need ya to make your picture just a little bigger..so I can..um..you know..see ya a bit better...hehehehe
Thanks to all for sharing their thoughts and experiences. :)
genie sea,
If I show you a larger picture, Carolyn will be very upset and I will have to make it up to her somehow.......LOL
February 13, 2008 on my journal, you will find a bigger picture.
I concur with ReporterX's comment on Mike's picture LOL I may have clicked on it a time or three LOL
Really enjoy this conversation. While I totally support a woman's right to choose what is right for their family, I also look at Libra and think she must be crazy to leave her babies. Life is so crazy and unpredictable. I have an almost two year old. When he was 6 months old I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Wow it sure put my life in perspective fast. I wouldn't have traded one day with my husband and my son for 1 million dollars!! I am doinig great now, but I sure learned some important lessons. Your life can change in a second, every moment with my son is precious! Of course I mean no judgement against Libra, this all just hit home for me.
I am a stay at home mom to two boys ages 6 and 2. With me the issue is how young the twins are. Personally, my children did not spend the night away from me until they were two, and I wouldn't leave them for three whole months until they were old enough to understand that Mom hadn't just abandoned them. I have a wonderfully supportive husband, mom, and mother in law and have no doubt that my children would be well taken care of. However, I would never leave my five month old child for three months. You miss out on way too much...first tooth, crawling, babbling, lots of wonderful smiles and laughs, etc. Not to mention I'm a strong advocate of breast feeding, and you can't do that if you're not around. I realize that it's not for every Mom, but it helped me to forge a strong bond with both my boys and I think that Moms that choose to do it should be supported. I too believe that a Mom should have a life outside of the house and I do. I go on day trips with my friends and have left for 12-14 hours when my sons were just infants. Now that my boys are older I also go on weekend trips.
Of course, like many others have said, I wouldn't go on BB anyway kids or not. Way to much drama, backstabbing, etc for me.
I don't think I could go on Big Brother and leave my 4 month old babies at home. As soon as they locked those doors, I'd be banging on them to let me out. That's just the way I am though with my own children. I love being with them, and it would kill me to be apart from them for that long.
Each family is different though, and I've always said that you have to do what is right for your own family. Don't be pressured by what others say is the right thing to do.
"As long as you're signed up, you can use your feeds from 3 different IP addresses - just not running at the same time."
I did not know this...how is it that I did not know this??? I could have been watching the feeds from 3 different computers all this time and wasn't? I feel like such a bone head.
Angie~
i'll jump on the mom thing...i have a 9 month old son. i also have a daughter who passed away right before birth. b/c of those circumstances there is no way in h*ll that i would leave my son at home to go on a show in hopes of possibly winning money and especially one where there is no contact with the outside world.
i believe there are other outlets to get more money if they truly need it...like working another job, maybe going on a show like wheel of fortune or jeopardy where you don't have to be away from your family for so long with no contact.
i personally do not agree with her decision. i don't think it's fair of her to do that to her kids. and for the record, i would feel the exact same way if it was her husband there and not her. yes, i'm sure they are getting the best care but nothing will ever make up for libra being gone. her daughter is at the age where she could possibly remember this. how is it going to affect her down the road? no one knows. could be not a problem at all or it could be a bigger issue than anyone can predict. you just never know with kids.
but in the end it is her decision and she has to live with the consequences. has this changed my view of her? of course. did her "answer" to julie's question explain anything? NOT AT ALL!!! she just rambled.
i hope she goes soon so she can be with those kids. she is missing out on so much. she will miss them sitting up, smiling, crawling, dr's visits, and so much more.
I have a moment here at work so thought I'd put in my two cents worth...
My kids are older now so yes I could do BB,if I were so inclined. When my children were younger would I have done it, you betcha! The way I see it, is I went back to work after I had my son, a month earlier than planned. Had I not gone back, I wouldn't have had a job. When I had my daughter I was working casual after 3 months. Granted I still got to see them both everyday, it was quality vs quantity.
Everyone has their opinion on this and really there is no right or wrong answer. Libra and her family, I'm sure had a lengthy discussion on this matter. And I don't think she was surprised by the question and I think she gave a really good answer.
I really like reading everyone's point of view!! :)
I think the hgs should start thinking and aim to get rid of Libra and April that would weaken Ollie and breakup that "group". Leaving the groups just about equal in all areas. It seems that Jerry isn't in either of the groups, does it?
Hey everyone! I hope you all are having a great BB day!
My youngest is 8, and I don't think I could leave him for 3 months. My oldest on the other hand would probably care less (he's 13 going on 21!)
Just my input, but I couldn't do it!
Sarah--
Me too, I would feel the same way if it was the husband.
I am a stay at home mom and therefore take care of much of the childcare, but my husband is very hands on and it would affect our children very badly if he left for three months--we don't like it when he goes out of town overnight!
Libra has commented on Julie's question more than once since the live show. I really think she is more bothered by how she is being seen than she is letting on.
While I'm not anti-Libra because of her decision, it does kinda bother me that she would leave babies that young. There is more and more research that suggests that the first year of life is critical for infants in how they develop in life and to have a mother just leave for potentially 3 months could have ramification for them later in life. Libra and her family are obviously not in a dire financial situation so it just seems like she is valuing money over her babies to me.
wow what a heated discussion this has become! lol
everyone pretty much covered everything and i agreed with most everyone..
About Libra, i dont judge her on the fact that she left her 3 children at home, no one truly knows whats going on in her household and im pretty sure they are being well taken care of and shes in the game to win the grand prize for her family. So i do not judge her at all for that, i am a stay at home mother of my 2 year old daughter (3 next month! they sure do grow up fast =[ ) and i really dont know what i would do if i was in libras shoes, heck, if i knew that i had a chance to win $500K and i knew my child would be safe with her father and our family members, then yep, i think i'd do it! it would be hard as hell but we're talking about $500,000 here!!! lol
just my opinion =]
thanks carolyn for all the updates, im on ur blog i swear, a million times a day lol i dont even need to feeds when i have u! =]
I think Chenbot asked the question of April because it was a HOT issue. Look how it got so many people talking.
I tivo BBAD and mostly ff'd thru the upstairs crew. You can see by the snarls on their faces how distatseful the words coming from their mouths are. They look like a bunch of animals.
I love to read all your opinions.
You couldn't pay me enough to go in there.I agree with what Steven said about being nice people in a weird situation. Most of them are funny and lots more active than the last BB.
I'm lovin it!
mikeinbama......Mamma Mia
Here is my take. I am a SAHM and have been since my oldest (7) was 1. That first year when I HAD to work I cried EVERYDAY I had to leave him (even when it was with my DH for a few months while he was in school). The day my DH got a good enough job to allow me to quit mine and stay home was hte happiest day of my life. They grow up SO fast and to be hoenst I even resented the time my husband was a SAHD. That is me though. I couldn't/wouldn't do it for any amoutn of money. You can't buy memories like fist steps, first words,etc. Now my boys are 4 & 7 and I still wouldn't do it. I would want my youngest to understand and want me to go. Libra's whole thing is sending her kids to college. Well there are MANY people who have to do that too btu we try to plan and prepare the best we can for it without doing a TV show. Do I fault her.....no becasue to each thier own but don't make excuses that are the same for every other family. My first reaction when I saw her was how on earth could she choose to do that but boy I hope she does well. I was rooting for the Mom being that I can relate but after watching her I don't like the way she plays the game. She is rubbing me the wrong way but it has NOTHING to do with leaving babies behind, just her strong, controlling and judgmental personality. She doesn't want judgement but she can judge others and talk about anyone and everyone?
So I am coming off my soap box now.
Kim in OK
While I'm not saying Libra is a bad mother for leaving her babies,I'm going to agree with Cris at 1:28 about development at that age.
Not only is this stage important at this age in development and pattering for children, what happens after the show? Libra, I'm sure we can all agree, has some 'issues' regarding control. If she makes the jury, she'll be going home to two 8 month old strangers, who have learned and begun to pattern after the caregivers in their lives. There is great potential for confusion and emotional damage if Libra chooses to steamroll back into their lives and rearrange it to her liking.
I have no doubts that the children are going to be well cared for by a loving father and extended family now, it's what happens when she gets home that will decide whether this was the right opportunity to secure her children's college fund.
I sincerely wish her family the best.
Ok...I have never commented at all, but I have to here. I am a Canadian teacher, and all Canadians get one year parental leave, wherein our employer cannot fire us and we receive employment benefits (55% of our current income). Having said that, I have a 5 year old son with whom I was privileged to stay home for the first year of his life.
While I am glad that Libra has a supportive family which affords her the opportunity to "work" and be on a reality show, I cannot imagine any mother wanting to leave her newborns at such critical stages of development, never mind a 4 year old.
My husband shares in parenting equally with me now, and was a HUGE support while my son was newborn, but I would NEVER choose to leave him alone with my son at 5months of age, nevermind 2 newborns even with my very supportive parents and his closeby.
Studies prove that the first 5 years of a child's life are the most crucial and can predict/hugely impact future behaviour and learning--whether the child remembers them or not...lol.
If we choose to be parents, we choose to sacrifice. Those 5 month olds will not know Libra when she returns. They will have changed tremendously and met many milestones that she could not witness. It is FAR different from going to work during the day or on a business trip for a few days--seriously. I saw Libra packing to go to the show and took note of her home. I don't know her economic status, but she definitely did not appear to be poor in anyway. I would not trade 3 months day and night with my son at age 5 months for a 1/13 chance at $500 000 (after taxes much less). Money can be earned, that precious time with those babies/young child will never come back to her.
God forbid something should happen to any of them, she would regret that far more than missing a chance to be on a reality show...I should hope.
Ok I just have to speak up here about Libra and leaving your kids for 3 months...
What about our servicewomen who have children?? The have to leave their kids for anywhere from 2 weeks to 18 months!!! Do we beat down on them for leaving their kids?? No!
Some would say that's different. How? Libra had a choice to be on BB (though for all we know she did origianlly apply before she even got pregnant.). Moms who are in the service also have a choice... They don't have to stay in the military once they have kids, but they do! And you better thank your lucky stars that they do to serve and protect your rights to speak your opinion!!!
Just my two cents! Something to think about!
actually melanie...some women do not have the choice to leave the military after having kids. some do have to stay on until their time is up. i'm not sure about all the logistics but i've had military people in my life who have had children and weren't able to leave.
and i do believe the military is completely different that choosing to be on big brother. libra knew going in that she would not even be able to talk to her kids until she got home. at least in the military they are able to talk on a daily basis and can even send videos and emails and such. and the military aren't doing it for fame and money. and a lot of them chose to be in the military before having kids so it wasn't some hairbrained idea.
if we're throwing that into the mix we may as well throw in single parents whose ex's are only weekend parents. isn't that the same then too?
Sorry- My point was more that there are many other situations in life that cause women to be away from their children... All have different circumstances and abilities, but all in all women (and men) have a choice and we need to respect people for those choices no matter if we like it or not!
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