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Saturday, August 15, 2009

Jordan's HoH Reveal

8:45pm BBT
At long last... Jordan was called to the DR just a few minutes ago, and she's already come out with the familiar "Who wants to see my HoH Room?!?!"

Lydia does not attend.

Well, at least we'll be spared the awkward moments of the standard HoH reveal, and Jordan will be surrounded by the people who support her in the house.

Either way, we'll be blogging and capping it for you both here and on BBDish-Caps!

Jordan got a letter from home that brought her to tears. Her family's fortune has improved, which is wonderful, considering they were all living in one room when Jordan left...


They also sent her a blanket from home, and pajamas... and they gently reprimanded her for her language.

BB stocked the fridge with lots of goodies, including some cookie dough, which she held up and said, "I can get fatter," referring to Lydia's earlier slam.


She's offering everyone everything she's got...


Jeff, Michele and Russell offer very sincere congratulations, and being Jordan, she's the one to bring up the awkward moments of HoH silence... Jordan shares some family stories with everyone.




Oddly, BB calls Jeff to the DR during Jordan's HoH reveal... It's a quickie though. BB calls Russell just a couple minutes later, and when he opens the door to go, Jeff's waiting on the HoH landing to scare him to bits!







9:28 PM BBT

Kevin and Natalie make their exit, so they can go to the Red Room to whisper and go to sleep. Her alliance is there to buoy her and make her smile.


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146 Comments:

Blogger ǝuoʎuɐzǝɥʇ said...

Yay for Jordan!!!

Maybe she's getting kind of standoffish with Jeff because she's worried about the privacy of the HoH. She's said repeatedly she doesn't want anything to happen on TV. Who knows??

August 15, 2009 at 8:53 PM  
Blogger David B said...

well its been quite the live feed day as perusual. need sleep. have fun Jordan....

August 15, 2009 at 8:53 PM  
Blogger whitetigers1965 said...

arrrggg.....I had no sound while she was reading her letter :(

August 15, 2009 at 8:54 PM  
Blogger haoleangel said...

yay jordan! almost time for bbad!

August 15, 2009 at 8:56 PM  
Blogger Sher said...

Why is the light out in Haves room???? Cuz Lydia is passed out maybe?

August 15, 2009 at 8:56 PM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

Caro and Genie
I'm not much for smoochies and huggies but this place you have created brings so many people together in such a wonderful way...well obviously my words can't really express my appreciation.
What an incredible day!

TIME TO HIT THE TIP JAR

August 15, 2009 at 8:57 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Although this comment doesn't relate to the HOH reveal, I waited to post it because Genie noted a "new post" coming up.

Lydia spitting in the salad: their are health concerns re: being passed through the saliva. However, to me, spitting in food is only slightly less offensive than spitting in someone's face. It just isn't done in a civilized society.

Is that my problem -- even though BB is a game, and rules of etiquette are severely relaxed, I should not expect basic rules of civility to be followed. The quest for the almighty dollar trumps all civility.

I like BB for the ingenuity many of the HGs come up with. I don't like it to see people act like they are basically Neanderthals with no sense of simple respect for your fellow players.

August 15, 2009 at 8:57 PM  
Blogger RhondaM said...

Sorry to re-post.

So Jeff got a trip? Nat a phone call, Lydia - uni, and what did Russell and Kevin get?

Lydia knows her and Natalie are outta there back to back, so she wants to go first, so she can get to Jessie before Natalie does.

I hope your wrong about the spitting in the salad. Jeff would go ballistic if he found out!!! Which is there goal, right?

August 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM  
Blogger RhondaM said...

Jordan's Mom sounds like mine. No cursing and I ALWAYS get jammies from my Mom. I will always remember that about my Mom. She even brought me new jammies each time I was in the hospital after I gave birth to my kids.

August 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully Jordan gives Michele unlimited use of the HoH room since her reign was cut short.

Sometimes I wonder if Jeff would really take Jordan to the final 2.

I'm scared for what happens if Kevin wins veto this week. I'm sure Jordan doesn't want to make Russell mad...

August 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM  
Blogger HanHaysMom said...

LOL!! Jeff just scared the pee out of everyone in the HoH!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Could anybody understand that DR leak?

August 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Jordan is such a good-hearted person. She already stated if and when she won HOH, she would have an open-door policy for every HG, no exceptions. And now, she is offering everybody in the room anything they want that is hers.

Jane said: "I agree that Jordan seems to be getting more strategic. She is also getting cooler with Jeff, I think. She may be trying to set up a final 2 with Michele, because she couldn't win against Jeff."

Girl, I agree with 99.99% of what you say. I can only hope that this time your "fear" regarding Jordan proves baseless. Unfortunately, you almost always end up being right. Please, if there is a "higher power," make Jane's fear wrong this time.

August 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM  
Blogger Carmen said...

OMGosh I was in a family reunion today with no cell so i couldnt get on from my phone and I just got home imagine my shocked @ the events that occured in the house since last night. I had to work early today so I recorded BBAD from last night so I'll be able to see how it started. So many post to read up on im gonna go try and catch up.

August 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM  
Blogger Divr said...

I'm so happy for Jordan and her HOH benefits. It will be nice for the house to settle down a little with Chima gone. As I saw Lydia sitting pondering while all others were in the HOH reveal there was a part of me that felt sadness for her. I can relate a bit with her frame of mind after the comp.

I acknowledge that she has some issues she needs to get some help with, even tho Kevin seems to have given it his best effort. However, thinking as I looked at her that her she is feeling betrayed. And she participates in a comp where one person receives a trip to Hawaii, someone else receives $5,000, someone else gets a call from a loved one. And what do I get??? A freaking Red Unitard that I am required to wear. So I perceive that she really feels the world is totally against her.

Anyway, back to Jeff's attitude and let's have the house be cheerful.

August 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM  
Blogger Coffee Break Mom said...

The looks on Jeff's face right now are priceless... when is bed time on BB tonight???? LOL

August 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

WWAAAHHHH

I keep getting stuck on the in between posts!!! All day long today!


Jordan is PMS'ing too and that might be why she's a tad off.

Anyways...Genie, Caro! you've done enough today.....good night.

Love ya lots and thanks for everything xo

August 15, 2009 at 9:12 PM  
Blogger jane said...

There must be some major sh*t going down with CBS, they are cracking down big time. There were just fishies on BAD, which I have NEVER seen. Even when the feeds have fish BAD doesn't.

August 15, 2009 at 9:12 PM  
Blogger HanHaysMom said...

WHOOO HOOOO!! Jordan's a Louisiana girl too!! Love that her mom got her jammies. The 1st gift my kids get on christmas eve is a new pair of jammies! GEAUX Jordan!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:12 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Oh, crapola. Like GaYToR, I hate proofing my posts. I know what I meant, so that's what I see:

My comment at 8:57 -- "there" not their. Can I blame it on age? Yeah, that's it. Senility creates all kinds of embarrassing circumstances. So, yeah. Sue me. I'll never remember it, anyway.

August 15, 2009 at 9:13 PM  
Blogger rosaritoe said...

G'nite
It only took me 10 min to re-do my Pay Pal password AGAIN!
Well it took me 3 seasons to figure out how to put the picture on my post!

August 15, 2009 at 9:13 PM  
Blogger Divr said...

And on the subject of Chima, I saw the first attempt on her part to tell "her side of the story". I imagine she will be using her media connections to get her story out.

Just curious if she has dispatched her email message to Carolyn yet. I have no idea how to imbed a link, so I will just add it to the end here so it can be deleted off the blog post if you prefer to not have it published on the blog.

http://www.examiner.com/x-14612-Big-Brother-Examiner~y2009m8d15-Big-Brother-11-Exclusive-chat-with-Chima-Simone

August 15, 2009 at 9:13 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

DR leak with Russell...
Checking in w/ with everyone making sure where their heads are at. Don't want to have to ask anyone else to leave.


I have not noticed Jordan being stand-offish to Jeff or anything wrong with them.

Fish were up at the beginning of the HOH reveal & then her letter pic came back but no sound till she was almost finished w/ the letter....GRRRRR!

August 15, 2009 at 9:13 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

My hubby was just watching over my shoulder and said Jordan has a smile that could light the world.

She is just so darn cute!

August 15, 2009 at 9:14 PM  
Blogger jane said...

Don't worry Berdache Bear, I'm wrong all the time.

August 15, 2009 at 9:15 PM  
Blogger ronap said...

So happy for her - that girl is so sweet, she can't really be mean to anyone.

I also didn't have any sound until the last sentence.

August 15, 2009 at 9:16 PM  
Blogger jane said...

JulieB, thanks for keeping track of their menstrual cycles, this is very important information! :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM  
Blogger Maniac Rose said...

Last year Michelle had money taken away from her and given the uni by another HG and she was mad but she got over it...she didn't act like a spoiled brat....

August 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM  
Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

the thud you're about to hear is my head hitting the desk.

gnite everyone :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:17 PM  
Blogger Shamrock said...

I love Apple Jacks .....

August 15, 2009 at 9:19 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Night Carolyn

August 15, 2009 at 9:19 PM  
Blogger Laura in NC said...

About Jordan and Jeff - I think she is keeping a little distant because she doesn't want to seem like he is the only reason she is still in this game. Plus, she is really concerned that her family will be mad at her. I think Lydia calling her a ho really got to her and does not want to be perceived that way.

August 15, 2009 at 9:20 PM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

Divr - thank you for the link - shocked she thinks so little of the feed viewers to even try and make out like what they saw was a lie.

August 15, 2009 at 9:21 PM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

Night Carolyn sleep well!

August 15, 2009 at 9:21 PM  
Blogger haoleangel said...

carolyn...here's a pillow. sleep well. =D

August 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM  
Blogger kimba804 said...

G'night Carolyn, Sleep tight!

August 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM  
Blogger Ragz said...

Hi Carolyn,

Can this be posted? Chima just gave an interview to the Examiner. http://www.examiner.com/x-14612-Big-Brother-Examiner~y2009m8d15-Big-Brother-11-Exclusive-chat-with-Chima-Simone
Margie

August 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

Good night, Carolyn! Get a good night's rest & enjoy your Sunday. Fortunately, they are taking it easy in the house (I hope) tomorrow.

August 15, 2009 at 9:22 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Jane you made me laugh my head off.

Jordan mentioned it last night :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:24 PM  
Blogger RhondaM said...

Nighty night Carolyn! ♥

August 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM  
Blogger jane said...

Thanks Divr, that was very interesting. Though she too is being selective, there is quite a bit of truth to what she says. It's so interesting that in the time of the internet no one is small and powerless. I assumed she would be steamrolled by CBS, but maybe not. One small woman can have a very big voice in cyberspace.

August 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM  
Blogger Kimmie said...

Hi Everyone! I'm just gonna watch AD and lurk, have to much on my mind right now, to be in my right mind! Hope y'all have a good weekend!
Kim

August 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM  
Blogger Becca said...

Does anyone know what kind of music Jordan got? I heard her say she asked for Def Leppard and Poison and thought "Yeah, I like this girl"...so now I'm curious...

August 15, 2009 at 9:27 PM  
Blogger kimba804 said...

you can let your fingers rest tomorrow ♥

August 15, 2009 at 9:27 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Hello Everyone

I've been at work for six hours so missed all the latest craziness. I'll be brief for now.

Thank you so much Carolyn for everything you do every season for all of us who love this show. Thanks Genie for stepping in this season and taking up the slack. You have made this wonderful place for us all to gather. I love being here and all the regulars and irregulars as well :)

YAY on Jordan's win!

Much more later I'm sure but I'll enjoy Jordan's HOH for now and get to the flashback in a bit.

If I miss you when you head to bed ladies Sweet Dreams. That goes for everyone.

August 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM  
Blogger kevin said...

Jordan is cavities. 100% sugar.

I love her.

the hashtag #BB11 & "Chima" have been trending all day on twitter. awesome.

I'm glad to see that Jordan was talking game w Jeff. Don't let your guard down, honey, the game is most definitely still on, despite the trauma of the last few hours.

Wasn't it hilarious when Natalie tried to turn Lydia's tirade into Michele's fault? Saying that bc she engaged her (after she poured out those beers & flung the Green Room door open) when Michele yelled "Why don't you put on your unitard BITCH!" I made an :O face.

It saddened me when Natalie (& Kev too but he was not as nasty) tried to say that they can't control Lydia. When team Technobrains tried to reasonably say "at least don't egg it on," Nat just shrugged her shoulders. Give it up! Dancing around semantics & lying about how they weren't encouraging the stupidity is a serious irritation to me.

August 15, 2009 at 9:30 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

Chima's interview is exactly what I expected it to be. Blame everyone else & take no responsibility.

August 15, 2009 at 9:31 PM  
Blogger HanHaysMom said...

Good nite sweet Carolyn!! You deserve a good long sleep!! Thank you so much!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:32 PM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

I'll be here for a little bit moderating comments. About another half hour :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM  
Blogger RhondaM said...

Cry Jordan, cry! You have held it all in for so long. Get in a good cry now. You will feel better.

August 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM  
Blogger MG said...

Chima's interview is directed at the TV onlys. She totally forgets about the feed watchers and the people who frequent the various blog sites like this one.

You can fool some of the people some of the time...

Too late Chima to resurect your life and your actions. Don't you think CBS has tapes...

August 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM  
Blogger kimba804 said...

Totally agree with you Wendy. She thinks we have no idea what happened.

August 15, 2009 at 9:37 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

I cannot believe that Kevin & Natalie actually said they thought Jordan was a sweet girl & they feel she is being taken advantage of. That she isn't thinking for herself. She really has them fooled as far as the not thinking part. She is doing a fine job but because of her sweetness, her naivety & she is a blond they label her as unable to think on her own.

August 15, 2009 at 9:40 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

GEez Jeff go hug her!!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM  
Blogger miamiglow said...

Geez, Jordan is making me cry..

August 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM  
Blogger Syn928 said...

Carolyn & Genie - I Order you both to take tomorrow off. You are allowed to do one post just so there can be a comment section. Hang in the comments if you must. But trying to get every little detail of what's going on in the BB House will drive you insane, especially with this cast. Today was a helluva day and you both did stellar jobs keeping up.

There are links to the feeds all over the Dish. Get them. You won't be disappointed. For those of you who can't afford the feeds, if there is a comment section, it will not be hard to follow if the kind bbdish chicks and chucks can provide a little commentary of what is going on through out the day.

Carolyn and Genie deserve an off day like no other.

At the very least, because I know how much you both care about the site, as do most of us here reading, please only do lite blogging. Take a Sanity Day! I'll even make you a picture to stick up there somewhere. Sanity Sunday in Progress!

Please please please do the very best to take care of yourselves. We are only at the halfway point and can't have you burning out now. We still have Russell in the house.

August 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM  
Blogger HanHaysMom said...

Genie....I think it's safe to say you have worked your hiney off today & you deserve to get some rest!! Shut it down & go to bed!! We can all meet up again tomorrow!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:43 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

Goodness, talk about a night & day difference between Chima and Jordan.

August 15, 2009 at 9:43 PM  
Blogger ronap said...

Good nite to those that are hitting the sack - Thanks to Carolyn! And thanks Genie for sticking around a little longer.

I am going to watch for a while, then go to bed also.

Listening to Jordan worrying about her family trying to make it without her, and paying her bills. Poor baby, she will get what she deserves for being a good person, all good back.

August 15, 2009 at 9:43 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Night Genie

August 15, 2009 at 9:44 PM  
Blogger Shamrock said...

Chima's email to the Examiner is delusional. Seriously. She needs professional help.

August 15, 2009 at 9:45 PM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

You all are so sweet! Thank you for being you! ♥ I will be going to bed in 15 minutes :) Muah! You are all Gucci! :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:46 PM  
Blogger Laura in NC said...

WOW. Jordan crying in her HOH just makes me want to hug her. I really hope she wins or at least gets second place. She deserves it.

August 15, 2009 at 9:46 PM  
Blogger Michelle in Indiana said...

Yea what Syn said!! :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:47 PM  
Blogger Ry said...

Hey All! OK, so these past few days have been the greatest EVER!! I love that this is going the way it's going. GO JORDAN/JEFF/rMICHELE!!

~ Ryan ~

August 15, 2009 at 9:48 PM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

Michele: I will sleep in the middle.

Give them some time alone, Michele. Go sleep downstairs. Sheesh.

August 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM  
Blogger cindy.lou.who said...

I am so loving Jordan right now....

August 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

Genie, I agree with Syn, go get some rest & take a day off tomorrow.

Good night, everyone!!!

Have a Gucci night!!! ☺♥☺♥♥♥♥

August 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Just read Chima's version of the events. As usual, it is everybody else's fault and Chima is being mistreated and the editing of the show is done to deliberately make her look bad. (Boy, would she be surprised to find out that there is no editing on the feeds and BBAD.)

After reading her email, all I could think of was Chima "Sarah" Simone. As did Sarah Palin, Chima is spinning this to absolve herself of any wrongdoing whatsoever. She has been misrepresented, mistreated, and misquoted.

All hail Chima and Sarah, two spinmeisters who are "never wrong" and "always mistreated."

August 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM  
Blogger Danyelle said...

Good night Genie and Carolyn! Thanks for all you've done today! *hugs*

August 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM  
Blogger Danyelle said...

I agree, Michelle needs to give them some space, we want J/J cuteness :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:50 PM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

CD: Def Leopard

August 15, 2009 at 9:50 PM  
Blogger dabugd said...

OMG! Poor Jordan. It must be awful to live in a one room house and not know how your family is surviving with no money ... She is the sweetest girl! No matter what order she comes in at BB, I'm voting her my favorite.

Go J/J/M/M!!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:51 PM  
Blogger katieblue said...

Good Night Genie and Carolyn.

Get some well deserved sleep! Tomorrow should be a slow day anyway.

Wow, Jordon made me cry and boy am I missing my mom right about now:(

Thank you for all you guys do!!
As soon as I land a job I will be hitting the tip jar big time! x

August 15, 2009 at 9:51 PM  
Blogger cindy.lou.who said...

Ok, as much as I love Jordan....I am equally loving our Jeff right now, too....I really hope once they get away from these cameras, they can try to develop a real relationship!

August 15, 2009 at 9:51 PM  
Blogger Juliana said...

Just read Chima's email thing... so calling someone a terrorist and ransacking their stuff is self-defense... in defense of him getting taken off the block? *confused*

About Jordan, it's refreshing to know that someone is actively thinking about endgame rather than who annoys them or who they like best (I know it's gotta have a factor since they're locked up in that crazy place all day, but it's nice to hear she's playing the game)

And yes Carolyn and Genie most definitely deserve some time off for a job very well done :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM  
Blogger MG said...

Michelle, get the H out of HOH!!

What is this "I'll sleep in the middle BS".

August 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

OMG jordie come on for us, make jeff sleep in your bed! how can she not have that gorgeous specimen in her bed! wow

August 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM  
Blogger Berdache Bear said...

Jane @ 9:25. If you haven't already, you should scroll down and read the comments. There are very, very, very few people who are falling for her interpretation of her experiences. Most are commenting about how many of her actions were NOT edited, since they were on the live feeds and BBAD. I hope she doesn't bother to go to the site to see how she faired and how much she was believed. It could end up finally sending her over the proverbial "edge."

August 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM  
Blogger Syn928 said...

Danyelle said...
I agree, Michelle needs to give them some space, we want J/J cuteness :)


Correction Danyelle ;), we NEED J/J cuteness, lol. It's just what we need to bring us all back down from this madness.

Goodnight Everyone! Sweet pleasant dreams!

August 15, 2009 at 9:55 PM  
Blogger *^*^*MsFitzTX*^*^*^ said...

Awww, I'm loving these moments!!!

August 15, 2009 at 9:55 PM  
Blogger WendyLady33 said...

Genie i thought you had already gone to bed - i will say good night to you now :0)

August 15, 2009 at 9:56 PM  
Blogger JulieB said...

Jordan is so sweet

August 15, 2009 at 9:56 PM  
Blogger jane said...

I think Chima's response is a fair counter to the CBS statement. Yeah, it's only a tiny part of the story, but CBS put out less than any of the story (i.e. lied). I am no fan of Chima's behavior and her attitude toward the game was beyond juvenile. But my heart doesn't bleed for CBS either and it is true that Russell played his part. If CBS had the balloons to admit she quit the game, then all bets would be off. They didn't, so kudos to her for fighting the man (ironic choice of words on my part).

August 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM  
Blogger Jenn B. said...

Oh Jordan is just the cutest ever. She made me cry..She is just the sweetest ever. I hope good things come out of this for her and her family. She really deserves it more than any of them. She is the real deal. You gotta love her!!!

August 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM  
Blogger fidget said...

Ditto Syn...get some much needed rest.

August 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM  
Blogger haoleangel said...

gulp! jordan has us all tearing up. :(

August 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM  
Blogger Genie Sea said...

OK! It's time for me to go thud! Night everyone! Sleep Sweet :)

August 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, Jordan is being so nice about Michele's abruptly ended HoH reign. She's giving her free use of the bed and bathroom and even offering to hang up Michele's pictures. Jordan is now my #2 to win the whole thing.

August 15, 2009 at 10:04 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

hey cindy lou. i would love to see them have fun together, bt i really don't think jeff is looking for a lomg time lve with jordon. i do think he likes her and is enjoying getting to know her, but jeff is in a totally differemt place in his life. he has made many comments about women and relationships, and i think with jordie he's been down that road (the early 20's relationship), i don't see him going back. i also think it is a nice accidental boundary for him there with her feelings abot respecting the wishes of her family. that just puts the beaks on everything which i think he is probably ok with. lets face jeffy does want to be focused on this game

August 15, 2009 at 10:05 PM  
Blogger jane said...

Berdache Bear, I'm not surprised people are hostile to Chima'a letter. I'm a feed addict so I've seen the real deal. I don't support anything she did in the house. I just think that 1.CBS is not the good guy here (there is no good guy), and 2.it's just fascinating that in this time in the world one woman can make a statement against a multi-national corporation and be heard. That has nothing to do with Chima personally, just an interesting reality of our time.

August 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM  
Blogger Cris said...

After her letter from home I don't think Jordan really wants the alone w/Jeff thing right now. She's super aware of what is being seen on TV right now. I think maybe tomorrow will be a better time for Jeff/Jordan cuteness.

August 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM  
Blogger kevin said...

come on guys Michele was making a joke to highlight Jordan being worried about her mom & grandpa. ("booger" LMAO)

Michele said "I'll sleep in the middle. I'm not scared of Jeff." right after Jordan invited Jeff & Michele both to sleep up there.

Agreed that she shouldn't c*ckblock, but I didnt see it like that.

August 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM  
Blogger Static Beth said...

I don't know what is up with production today, but we got fish and trivia almost constantly. I'm not sure what we are paying for? Seeing fish? I'm pretty annoyed.

The HOH reveal was a half one and had no sound.

Lydia spit in the salad they let her get away with that? Are there going to be consequences for any of these people's disgusting behaviour? All over the internet die hard BB fans are saying that these are the most disgusting group they've had in there. That's pretty sad.

August 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm feeling kinda happy in the standings in the house right now. As long as either Natalie, Lydia, or Kevin is evicted this week, the statistics have a minimum of 2 of the JJMR in the Final 4. Even then, the chances of those remaining 2 not winning the Final 4 HOH or Veto, and not winning the 2 of 3 Final HOHs is incredibly low with Russell, Jeff, and Michele dominating their own respective areas in comps. If the seventh Jury vote goes to America. No matter what combination of Final 2 there is, as long as Michele, Jordan, Russell, or Jeff is at lease one of the final two, I can't see them losing.

August 15, 2009 at 10:15 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Genie Sea said...
CD: Def Leopard

Genie LOL I'm thinking you're not a fan, it's spelled Def Leppard. One of my favorite 80s bands. I saw them three times during there hey day. They got a bit softer after their guitarist died and was replaced by Vivian. Their first couple of albums have some great guitar solos on them.

August 15, 2009 at 10:39 PM  
Blogger haoleangel said...

ugh..natalie (and lydia) gross me out with their noisy seefood eating. don't listen, kevin. don't lie ... this is natalie, not you.

August 15, 2009 at 10:40 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

10:47pm I just flipped over to the windows because I knew they were conspiring about something.

Natalie "we stick to the lie no matter what" Not sure what this one is going be but they are planning another lie against Michele. They are going to try and turn Jeff against her I think. This is their desperate attempt at "game play" it seems.

Natalie brings up her Slop Pass as her big win. She insinuates that all Michele's wins have been by default. She didn't earn them. Boggles the mind.

August 15, 2009 at 10:53 PM  
Blogger MG said...

I know it's late but I have the following comments -

Amazing that Michelle has been a little touched by Jordan and is actually saying that she thinks Russell will come after Jeff and Jordan!!

Also, Natalie is just about as digusting as Chima. She is making up ANOTHER lie and telling Kevin and Lydia they have to agree to it and stick to it NO MATTER WHAT!!

And people wonder why we want Jordan and Jeff to win (after tonight especially Jordan!!)

August 15, 2009 at 10:59 PM  
Blogger Michigan Man said...

Jordan is so nice to share her HOH room with Michele. She told her to bring up her picture of her husband. They let her keep that, at least she got something.

Jordan has such a kind heart.

August 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM  
Blogger Jenn B. said...

OMG I just realized who Lydia looks like. A mini Mimi on the Drew Carey Show

August 15, 2009 at 11:32 PM  
Blogger KBay said...

Hello All! Long time reader, but first time blogger here.

SO THRILLED that Jordan won HOH!!! It was enough to get me to finally put my two cents in.

You all do an AMAZING job here... I don't know how anyone can call themselves a fan of the show without knowing the whole truth. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for what you do! (sorry for so many caps but I want to be sure and express my feelings here ;-)

So glad that Chima is gone from the house. Too bad that she took a spot in the house from someone who might have appreciated the oppotrunity more than she did. Hopefully she will get some help for herself soon.

Did anyone see the statement Chima released about her departure? Guess she isn't taking the advice to stay off the internet for a few months...

http://www.examiner.com/x-14612-Big-Brother-Examiner~y2009m8d15-Big-Brother-11-Exclusive-chat-with-Chima-Simone

August 16, 2009 at 12:13 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

And I miss Last Call by 17 minutes. :(

butt sleep well, Princess Genie of the Sea. You deserve it!!!

And so does Mistress Carolyn of the Dish.

I just woke up so I will be watching the BBAD DVR and WOW... Just got fish on BBAD for the first time.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 12:19 AM  
Blogger EyeCandyM said...

Wow the last few days have been crazy.

I came on here and saw Chima was gone and that there was a new HOH and I was just like WTF?? What did I miss... sadly I dont have the live feeds this year, I dont feel like the hassle when it comes time to cancel.

Anyways... yay for Jordan. I think Natalie & Lydia are jealous because they can tell that Jordan really is a genuine person with a beautiful heart and she clearly seems to need the money more.

This season has truely showed how mean and hateful some ppl can be in this world.

August 16, 2009 at 12:30 AM  
Blogger kelseyyy said...

jordan is so adorable. i think i love her.

August 16, 2009 at 12:36 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

I hope one of our better Late Night Bloggers is working on this. I think I have Disco Ear Syndrome. I can't hear a f'in' thing with all this stealth whispering in the

Haves Room. L/N/K

They finally just got loud enough for me to catch one thing. Lydia seems to be the brains of the plan, or was it Natalie? One of them said something about "Operation (something) the Angels II starts tomorrow.

Camera zoomed to Kevin who looks less than caring, he's mostly staring at the ceiling, or the lights... I don't believe the rooms have ceilings.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 12:41 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

@RoamingGnome is driving me crazy. He's been tweeting all night and so far I know every location he has been. Dambit! a drag queen has to have her beauty rest. There is no way my male counterpart was going to put on clothes tonight and wander Bourbon St. and the rest of the French Quarter. I even have clean man clothes but no energy to don my straight apparel. Not sure what he is giving away but I was feeling lucky today and I was.

I won the PowerBall. Yes I did, Miss Julie, I WON! I had the PowerBall number. (Nothing else on that line but I have the red number.)

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Feeds ar pissing me off. Life is back to normal.

4 Feeds on 1 room and the room is the red one with the surviving Widows Godderz and Kevin as their only mourner joining in.

To be fair, they no longer seem to be mourning St. (to never be) jessie. Now it's all about St. Chima of the Weave.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:03 AM  
Blogger Sherry C said...

Do these guys realize that they realize these guys can't win against Kevin unless he is evicted before final 2, unless it is Jordan with him.

August 16, 2009 at 1:07 AM  
Blogger Shanna said...

If you could sen dJeff and JOrdoan one song...which would it be?

August 16, 2009 at 1:10 AM  
Blogger Shanna said...

just in case it was misunderstood wht my qqq was with jeff and sweetie, my song for them is just go...lionel ritchie

August 16, 2009 at 1:13 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

tg said...

Are they allowed to talk game in jury house?
If not, how is that inforced?

Hi all......

August 15, 2009 7:29 PM


Well we can't ask Jun, she never had to go there. We can't ask Stephen, sadly he didn't make it that far, but he should have, or maybe all the way so he never saw it either.

Carolyn, think you can get Chelsia or some other former Jury Member you know to fill us in. Our BBDish Guest Blogger, Will Wikle would be an excellent choice. He was the first that season to the JH, thanks to the evil Fitness Twins.

That is a valid point tg made. How could they be stopped in the Jury house from talkling game and filling in everyone on more than just what they show us what they bring in on a DVD?

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:15 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

kelseyyy said...

umm she looks a hot tranny mess. JS.

August 15, 2009 7:09 PM


LMCAO!!!

I resemble that remark... on show nights.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:16 AM  
Blogger Shanna said...

in this house, with what has happened and what will and et all...I would loooove this to be a wake up and hello to them. also he he he lmao lydia and nat will die a bit while hearing it..heehee oh good lord, I am so ornery ier than i want to be. these "ladies" embarass me
.

August 16, 2009 at 1:16 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Lydia is playing with the 'modeling clay' again. I go to switch cams to see better and Mr. Happy Fish Fingers is on his butt-on again. GRRR.

FB'ers can check these things according to the post timestamp here. I would just get it confused and have you looking at the time zone in Central Africa if I attempted to call a time.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:22 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

did I say Chima again? I don't know when I will stop that. Of course I meant Lydia.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:24 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

indigoprince32 said...

(he said a lot)

August 15, 2009 7:10 PM


(but I'm flirting)

Indigo, my Prince! Sorry I missed you.

*hugs and gropes and licks and nibbles and more and more and more*

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:27 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

MoNYC said...

I wonder why no guy in BB history has ever gotten the unitard "reward".

I mean, the closest has been Casey's banana suit. But still...


And there was Zach's Bunny Suit. He was the best bunny in BB History. ;)

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:28 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Lydia is working on a Natalie doll mold, (or is that moldy?)

Natalie is questioning something she is seeing and Lydia explains it is her hair. Natalie does have some highlighting, right? Lydia is very good with detail.

OK, I did my good deed for the day. I said something nice about Lydia and Natalie.

Now back to you regularly programmed GaYToR.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:44 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Lydia spat in the salad? That is f'ing nasty, besides being a health risk and therefore techincally a threat to the safety of other HouseGuests. We all know what she has had in her mouth.

Even I am disgusted, but I can't get that thought out of my head when anyone mentions body fluids and Lydia in the same post.

I'm back to being me. Thank G*D!

I'm still about to go off on AG again. We have had 4 on 1 ever since I opened my feeds at Midnight BBT.

Not one hint of J/J/R/M in 1 hour and 50 minutes.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:51 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Finally! Another 4 on 1 but this time the HoH Bedroom.

But WTF is going on. Jeff and Michele in bed and no sign of Jordan.

Jeff just turned out the lights, but he is listening to Jordan's CD.

I'll be watching for more. Color me curious.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 1:59 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

jluvsturtles said...

I read somewhere earlier that Big Brother has officially jumped the shark. I beginning to think that may be a true statement. :(

August 15, 2009 7:40 PM


I'm catching up very slowly and this may already be explained elsewhere but I am very confused by that statement.

Please explain?

I ♥ you turtles (and everyone else on The Dish.)

Now we are back to 4 on 1 in the Haves Room, and getting frequent "WBRB" screens. *shrug*

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 2:05 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Bear started it, then:

jane said...

I don't normally kiss girls either, but I would kiss you too, Carolyn. But I've always had a little thing for you.


Woohoo!! Girl on girl action for the lesbians of our Dish family.

Actually I'm with Bear. I don't normally kiss gurls, at least not on the lips. As a performer if they are handing me a tip, then occasionally.

But I would kiss all the DishChicks. And as often and anywhere they asked. ;) Well ALMOST anywhere. There are places I just cannot and will not never go.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 2:17 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Thank you Genie for answering the 'jump the shark' question. Now that you spelled it out of course I remember, and I read all the sites about possible TV cancellations. I know the term. (GaYToR had yet another brain fart.)

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 2:25 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Grendon said...

I agree with Michelle. Lydia has not been on everyone's side. She was too busy being attached to Jesse's rear.


Grendon, his rear wasn't the body part she was attached to. :-p~~

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 2:26 AM  
Blogger David B said...

i woke up nad read Chima's peice

"the power I did earn was completely usurped by a game piece never used before in this game and my HOH reign was rendered useless."

like the game can never change season to season? expect the unexpected? the clicques were unexpected. jessie coming back was unexpected. so what if cdt was never used before, it was known of, it was not a completely foreign concept.

if thats her reason and sayiong it makes her think she looks better than thats her story and she better stick to it

August 16, 2009 at 2:46 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Michelle in Indiana said...

"I am not putting crunchy underwear on the internet" Someone would buy them Jeff!!


Yes Michelle, and that would be me. I collect it but usually from those who leave it behind. *blush*

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 2:51 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

Syn928 said...

(Syn said a lot)

August 15, 2009 9:42 PM


And I agree with every word. Our DishChicks need a day of sanity.

We know they are too dedicated and won't let it happen but we can hope they will do Dish Lite tomorrow and if they must be around just comment with us. You both, Carolyn and Genie, need a fun day.

I know at least Carolyn will get in a good bike ride and brunch with the Chick Mother. That's a little relaxation and well deserved.

Genie I don't know what you do to relax, but DO IT!

(Look Syn, a second time I have quoted you and made no advances. Even I am trying to make their jobs easier.)

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 3:24 AM  
Blogger Jamison said...

0320 / all cams: L goes into GR w/ N & K.

L: You're not going to like this.

Apparently, the DR told her that they will have to dismantle the makeshift calendar on the chess board and put it back. Fish.

Back from fish...surprisingly, they aren't flipping out and turning it into a big DR conspiracy.

August 16, 2009 at 3:28 AM  
Blogger GaYToR said...

OK, time for me to depart. We got another "WBRB screen and it 'looks' like everyone is headed to bed. Maybe, Maybe not.

Russell hasn't been seen at all so I have to think he has been sleeping ever since BBAD.

We have had oh so very brief glimpses of the HoH room and a tiny bit of cuteness. Not much. Looks like Michele is sharing the bed with Jordan tonight.

Jeff just went downstairs. He had been listening to Jordan's CD every time we got an oh so brief glimpse there.

Before the last "WBRB" screen, (we have another "WBRB" screen now. The Haves Room Brigade were plotting in the Green room, but all filed out and went to their beds. Didn't look like they were ready to sleep, but with this latest "WBRB" they might being told to do it.

No, back to Haves Room and they are still awake, but Lydia is taking off her unitard so guess it's coming soon. Still there is stealth whispering but I can't hear it so what is the use of watching it. And again we get a "WBRB" screen. Now the lights are out.

A very brief flash of the Have Not's Room but I couldn't see if anyone was in there. the 4 on 1 feeds continue. *YAWN and Aggravation*

Nini all.

GaYToR is off like a prom dress.

^Ä^

August 16, 2009 at 3:34 AM  
Blogger Jamison said...

0330 / all cams: L talking about how she is going to make up superhero and villain names for everyone.

Kevin volunteers to be Captain Save-a-ho.

Fitting. :)

Also - I flashed back to the crying jag up in the HOH earlier and got misty-eyed. Who knew? Good for Jordan. It was just a nice...human...get-away-from-the-game moment.

August 16, 2009 at 3:34 AM  
Blogger Jamison said...

0335 / 1-2: RR w/ K,N,L. Rehashing table flipping. Lydia is very proud of herself. Natalie thinks it's hysterical. "Chima would be proud."

They quiet down. Lydia appears to be wide awake and staring off into dark.

3: Jordan up in HOH bed listening to Def Lep w/ the lights off. I'm pretty sure Michelle is up there but Jeff may be in SS room w/ Russ. Hard to tell because covers are pulled all the way up over someone's head.

I'll have it muted so I can watch my shows. If I see anything explode, I'll post. Otherwise, a very good morning to all of you!

August 16, 2009 at 3:46 AM  
Blogger Melanie said...

Awwww that look Jeff is giving her... I think he does truely LOVE her... Its really hard to fake a look like that!

August 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM  
Blogger Jamison said...

Good morning Carolyn!!!

Mich Man & Gaytor are right. Not sure why I didn't post this...

Pretty sure it was Nat that came up w/ the genius plan of LML (last minute lie, i think...I don't know. I changed the cam cuz I was bored). I think that there's also "Operation Bosley" (or something like that) which I believe is an effort to piss off Jeff so he snaps.

It is Kevin's responsibility to hide away from the girls all day to pretend like he's irritated w/ them. He's then supposed to let it slip (but make J&J promise not to tell), that Nat & Lydia were eavesdropping on the SS room and heard Michelle & Russ planning on taking J/J out.

This conversation never happened.

They spent a couple hrs working out the details, I think.

Most interesting part of the whole conversation, Nat makes a BIG deal about sticking to the lie no matter what. If you stick to the lie no matter what, you can always be trusted.... lather - rinse - repeat.

Again, watch for yourself. I was only half listening while I watched The Office/BBC. As you can imagine, The Office was more interesting.

August 16, 2009 at 5:49 AM  
Blogger CarolynBBDish said...

Good Morning, Jamison :)

Thank you!!

I'm off to go cycling and brunching with mom...

August 16, 2009 at 6:10 AM  
Blogger Marlene said...

Hi there. thanks for all the updates. Enjoy your rest (cycling and brunch sounds good to me)

It is already 4 pm where I´m at. Netherlands. I am also sick of Kevin. I want Nathalie or Kevin gone. Lydia is not dangerous at all. :)

August 16, 2009 at 7:03 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

Jamison:

I don't have the feeds but I do believe I read a conversation transcribed here on the dish where Michele and Russell made a F2 deal together, meaning they'd have to take J/J out at some point. Russell prob wants Michelle in F2 becasue he's got a better chance to win an endurance comp than she does.

I do think J/J have a chance at a real relationship outside of the house after BB11 is done.

I like the F4 of J/J/M/R, F3 of J/J/M and F2 of Jordan and Michelle.

****BTW**** Does anyone know if BB10 Ollie and April (or for that matter BB9 James and Chelsia) are still a couple or was their thing a true showmance?

Finally, I want to say thanks to Carolyn and Genie Sea for the fine work they do with this blog, esp for me, a TV only BB viewer. Enjoy your day of rest.

August 16, 2009 at 7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chimamust be Nigerian for "spoiled little pricess who only plays if she can win". I have a favorite name for Chima but can't post it here.(See Posting Rule #5,3rd word)

(See Carolyn, I didn't say it this year!!!)


-Markito, Orlando FL

August 16, 2009 at 8:39 AM  
Blogger Janice said...

Does anyone believe that Jordan & Jeff will fall for Natalie and Kevin's hairbrain scheme of lies? I sure hope they have better sense than to believe anything that any of the 3 of them tell them!!
I don't want their lies to cause problems with J/J & M/R final four!

Janice

August 16, 2009 at 8:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamison--!. Captain Save-a-ho @3:34 is PLATINUM, and 2. You are absolutely right about Jeff's "look". I've only looked that way at 2 women and I married them both (at different times, of course.) LUV IT!!

August 16, 2009 at 9:02 AM  
Blogger Alyson said...

Call me crazy, but in my opinion there is absolutely NO WAY Jeff won't take Jordan with him to the final 2 or vice versa, even though they've never verbally made that agreement... they're a "package" after all (love that!!). Also, I noticed last night when Michele threw out the question to Jordan about whether she and Jeff had a final 2 agreement, she told her that they had never actually said that out loud. But I took serious notice to the fact that Jordan completely avoided the actual question Michele was trying to ask, which was obviously about a possible final 2 deal between them. Jordan was well aware of what Michele was getting at and never let it get there. Ironically about the same time, Russell was talking to Jeff in the backyard and almost looked scared to discuss any scenario beyond final 4 that did not also include Jordan. The J's are in this for the long haul together. For the first time in BB history, I really think two people formed a strong bond in this house that they never even put in an "alliance" perspective. I feel like they are unbelievably genuine and would never betray each other in this game. I will be so upset if I'm wrong... but it is a game.

Also, based on the stuff I heard last night our precious, amazing Jeff pretty much gave Jordan the win. And every time she tried to thank him for it he insisted she had earned it. Then he told Russell he would do it over 100 times for her. I don't think I could love anything more than that.

Lastly, call me even crazier, but I honestly believe that if the final 2 comes down to Jeff & Jordan he may advocate for her to win. It is quite clear that her story and her character have had a significant effect on him, and he has said over and over again that she has saved him from himself in the game. It is obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that they are quite fond of each other in a "potential relationship once the camera's are gone" kind of way, but I don't even think that will play into his decision. I actually think he wants her to win the money!!

Hell, I want Jeff to win, but I want Jordan to get the money.

GOD Bless Y'all!! I LOVE this show and this blog SO much!!!

PS- Michele really does need to give J & J some quality alone time. Seriously. She's attatched herself permanently to Jordan's hip... that's not cool.

PSS- Glad y'all are taking a break today... if anyone deserves it, its the DishChicks ; )

August 16, 2009 at 10:37 AM  
Blogger Sunny said...

Its a beautiful day here in Idaho. Ive been out putting about out in the yard. Of course it wasnt until I had caught myself up on what happened after the BBAD feeds went off. Im so glad that the house was in a state of calm(well for BB). Im not sure they realize just how much energy it takes to follow them step by step.

Which brings me to my actual point. Words just seem so empty when your heart is so full of appreciation. I have sat here til my back side was numb and my eyes blurred. My gratitude is far deeper than my words here.

Thank Yous' go out to ALL that work so hard to give us addicts our fix for BB action. Not just for the visine break and the fingerprints that have been rubbed off with all the typing, but for all the other aspects of your life you set aside to do what it takes to keep this site updated. For all the hours youve missed spending time with your families, being able to watch your other favorite shows, luncheons with friends, missed opportunities for hugs, reading a book, missing quality time with loved ones, sitting down as the sun comes up, taking a break and realizing the sun has already gone down.

I am truly grateful for your dedication to your followers, many you dont even know.

Blessings... Sunny

August 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM  
Blogger Alyson said...

I read all the comments here and still can't figure out what's the "jump the shark" thing mean?? I have absolutely no idea...

August 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Afternoon all (I hope this get posted) I'm guilty by association because i voted for Jeff with the CDT but after I think about it was unfair it was the first time BB did that and they threw Jeff a bone so the whites on the show could take over the house..I'm white as well he didn't deserve it americas player yeah this is all jmo but I think ppl should complain abt the cdt because it unfair. I'm not a Chima fan by any means but that was unfair that her hoh wasn't valid. They wanted woman hating Russell in the house imo Keving should win this game if he does @ least him and Jordan final to because she finally won something..

August 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM  
Blogger Syn928 said...

Great job GaYToR and Jamison! Thanx for keeping the updates rolling!

GaYToR said...
(Syn said a lot)


LMCAO!

August 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM  
Blogger Alyson said...

Wow. Brandy, your comment threw me for a minute. I have to say I couldn't disagree with you more. Just my opinion. Mike Boogie won the same power in BB All-Stars but didn't have to use it because his allies won hoh the 1st week, and he won it the 2nd week. This twist had nothing to do with anyone's race or ethnicity, and America had equal opportunity to vote for whoever they wanted. If the other side had won that power they wouldn't have hesitated to use it on Russell's nominations to take Ronnie off the block and put Jeff & Jordan up. Jeff won it fair and square, and used it in the best way he saw fit. He could've overturned anyone who had won hoh's nominations in the 2 weeks he had the power. He made the smartest move ever, and it flipped the power. Suddenly when the other side, who had NEVER been on the bottom, found themselves there they broke down and couldn't handle it. That's the nature of the game and I am still stunned at their bitterness and complete inability to actually play the game and fight for their spot in that house, specifically speaking of Chima and Lydia. It's sad that they couldn't handle the same thing the other side had to deal with the first month. I've never seen a season like this with so many hg's that were completely incapable of handling the power shifts that ALWAYS come in this game. BB says to "expect the unexpected" but power struggles & power shifts in the house are always expected and without them the game would be pointless.

Race has absolutely nothing to do with any of this and it's disappointing that anyone would think otherwise...

August 16, 2009 at 4:55 PM  

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