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Sunday, August 19, 2012

The Overnight Report

Good morning, BB Lovers!  Happy Sunday!

Frank won the PoV last night, opening the door for a possible kink in the "no matter what, one of them goes home" plans..  While a handful of potential renom names were being thrown around upstairs by the HoH crew last night, Shane seems to have settled on Jenn for now.. Downstairs, Frank and Boogie have but one true goal: ruin Dan's game.

In a perfect Frank and Boogie world, they would convince Shane (and Britney) to put Dan up as the Renom on Monday, and send him home on Thursday.  Short of this, they would find a certain level of contentment just in destroying Dan's game and getting him out immediately after Boogie..

Frank and Boogie have said they plan to go to work as soon as they've had their Sunday morning coffee, so spark up your feeds today, folks!  We're in for a bumpy ride!

Now, let's see about some key conversations from late last night..  I'm diving into flashback.. Please refresh this post at 7:30am BBT and every 30 or so minutes thereafter, to watch the Overnight Report magically appear before your eyes.

Because I missed the HoH bedroom banter Friday night, I'll guide you directly there this morning for the Saturday night banter.. for your flashback pleasure..

Feeds 1 and 2
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Shane: It's lookin' at your butt.
Danielle: Every time..
Shane: Welcome, Live feeders, Danielle's booty.  Open midnight to 2am.
Danielle: (gasp)
Shane: Don't worry.  It's past 2.
Danielle: You're real cute there.
Shane: Thanks.

But let's dive further back into the evening...

Just before 11 o'clock rolls around, HGs are scattered around the feeds.  Danielle, Jenn, Dan, Ian and Shane are chatting at the jacuzzi, Ashley's fixing her hair on F2, Boogie are Frank are speaking in low tones on 3 and 4.. We'll join Boogie and Frank.

Boogie: Ride him like a jockey. What have you done for me?  Have you had a conversation with anyone today? Cuz he aint gonna do anything if I don't do that.
Frank: yeah
Boogie: Just gonna be happy it's not him.  F*ck that.
Frank: We're the only ones doin' anything.
Boogie: I know.  That's what frustrates me. Thinkin' that I'm gonna be in an interview with her, and they get to stay.
Frank:  I just think.. if they don't f'in play ball?  And you go home?  I ain't got f'in nobody to work with.
Boogie: I know. Nobody.
Frank: Just a f'in one man wreckin' ball for as long as I can.
Boogie: yep.

Britney passes by with her giant mug of coffee..

Boogie: F'in mug a coffee..
Frank: I know.
Boogie: I just wanna slap it outta her hand. F'in bitch.

Boogie: So aggravated.. I was tellin' the wiz.. I can make all the sense in the world, but it isn't necessarily gonna matter to those people.
Frank: Exactly.
Boogie: They're just sheep. F'in sheep. That's what I have to rely on?

Frank:  Makes me wish we had motherf'ers like Willie in the house still.

Boogie: Like who?
Frank: Motherf'ers like Willie..
Boogie: Yeah. I tell you what, though..  If they think I'm just gonna tip-toe around like Wil all week?  That ain't gonna happen.  
Frank: Exactly.
Boogie: I will demand to know what your answer is. I will demand to know where you stand.  Cuz if not?  Then you're eligible for Frank's wrath after I leave.
Frank: Yeah!  I wanna f'in say it.  I've been itchin.. Get off the fence and pick a side.
Boogie: Exactly.
Frank: Cuz if you're still on the fence?  Then you ain't on my side..
Boogie: Exactly.
Frank: Cuz that's the way I feel.
Boogie: Can't have it both ways..
Frank: Yeah.
Boogie: That's what they want..

Talk turns to low carb eating and working out.. I'm off to find another conversation.. Please refresh this post in another 20-30 minutes for more of TOR...

On the quad, we find Britney, Dan, Danielle and Shane up in HoH on 1 and 2, and Frank, Ian, Jenn and Ashley on the couches on 3 and 4..

We'll join the HoH crew..
Brit: I thought that WIl had a better chance of winning things than Joe.  So how did that turn into Britney wants Wil out?
Danielle: You talkin' bout Wil?
Brit: We're talking about how Boogie and Frank turned me saying Wil was smart and able to win comps, into Britney wants Wil out. (pause) And I was just waiting on them to tell Wil that it was my idea.. and I was gonna be pissed.. but they never did.  I guess because they knew he was leaving, so what was the point.

Talk turns to Joe..

Brit: We were Have Nots with Joe last week, so we talked to him a lot.
Shane: Yeah.. he doesn't like that side of the house. 
Dan: To me?  He's climbed up a few wrings.
Dani: Ever since Janelle left.
Shane: Ever since Janelle left, he's playin' his own game.
Brit: Since he doesn't have Janelle to conspire with..

Then to Ashley.. and how much she hated the Pixie/Trixie thing.

Britney: I know.. Sometimes Janelle would call her Trixi, and Ashley would look at me and go..

Britney: I was sad.. You make me feel better.
Dan: Oh, no problem.  I actually like bein' around you guys, so..
Shane: Absolutely.. and I felt so bad..

Britney: When I came into this game?  Knowing what the twist was?  My whole strategy was just to drafty people who could get themselves through the game.  I was just gonna hang out.. relax..  make some friends.. have a good time and hope for the best.  Like my whole strategy was just to draft the right team.. and I wouldn't have to do dirty work.  I wouldn't have to go around and make deals and whisper and..  That was my whole frikkin' strategy.. was just to draft the right people.
Shane: mm hmm

OK.. moving along...

Feed 3 and 4
Frank, Ashley, Ian & Jenn

Frank tells Ashley, Ian and Jenn that he and Boogie will be working hard to get Dan put up as the Renom, starting Sunday morning..

**It should be quite a show on the live feeds today. Here's the 3 day free trial, if you need it.

Jenn: ..and act surprised.. "Oh No! I'm totally upset."  It would suck, but I could see that happening.
Frank: What?  Him workin' with them?
Jenn:  No.. just them putting one of the 3 of us up.. you know?  For sure.
Frank: I don't like that.
Jenn: Instead of..
Frank: I don't like that.
Ian: I think it's me.. cuz my key was the last one out of the box.

Ash: It's one of us 3.
Frank: ...that doesn't mean shit.
Jenn:  Exactly.
Ash: No offense, ian, but I wouldn't judge it on the keys out of the box.
Jenn: I wouldn't either.

Frank: But.. umm.. No offense to Shane.. I don't think he's thinking that deeply into it.. But.. obviously, we want it to be Dan.
Jenn: Oh yeah..
Frank: I mean..  Me and Mike are going to work our damnedest tomorrow (Sunday).  We've already been puttin' work in.  We're gonna work our hardest to make that happen.  And if it's not him, I think we all agree who we would like it to be..
***As Joe's the only one available and not present, I'll let you deduce.

Frank: ..You know.. because.. he's the least trustworthy of our group.
Ian: mm hmm
Frank: You know what I'm sayin'?  But..

Ashley: Wait, if it's not Dan, who?
**hehe. good girl. play dumb, and make him say it out loud.
Frank: (sigh) Eagle Eye.
Ash: Oh! Duhh!
Frank: Yeah. I don't want it to be one of you 3..

Ian: Scares the sh*t outta me..
Ash: I don't want it to be..
Ian: I mean, if it ain't Dan or Eagle Eye..

Ian: ..I think it's me.  I really do.
Jenn: Why would you say that?
Ash: You know why?  I think it's the whole have Not thing.  They got close (to Joe) during Have Nots.
Frank: I was noticing that a lot last week myself.  That's why I stayed up late with them some nights.. They bond over that sh*t.
Ash: For sure.  That's how Danielle and Shane got so tight.
Frank: Trust me.  They don't wanna work with Joe.  They just wanna guarantee his vote to make sure Mike goes home this week.  That's all they want him for. They wont know who he is next week.. except thanks for cookin' me dinner.

Jenn: Well, i wont be salty about it.
Ian: I think it's gonna depend on who they want out.
Ash: I think it's gonna be me, because Shane already put me up (once) and he wouldn't wanna piss another person off. 

 Moving forward into the night..

Joe has made his way up to HoH to deliver the news that he believes Ashley has crossed over to the other side.. Downstairs on 3 and 4, talk is of Joe going up to HoH and being a rat... 

Well join Shane, Britney, Joe and Danielle up in HoH

Joe: I'm only guessin'.. I don't know anything.. I'm just saying..  I think she's so tight with Jenn and she was really tight with Wil.. that's just her pick.. it's where she's gonna stay.
Shane: Right.
Joe: It's my only guess.  I mean.. She's wearin' every one of Wil's clothes tonight..
Shane: Is she?
Joe: Yeah.. Those are WIl's joggin' pants, Wil's..
Danielle: She was talkin' bout it..
Joe: I mean, I heard that.. I sat down and I was like..
Shane: Were they out on the couches?
Joe: Yeah..  They were out on the couches. There was one open spot, so I sat down.
Danielle: I guarantee they were talkin' about why she was with you (Brit) so long in the hammock.  I'm sure Frank was like, Well, I saw you and Brit all cuddled up.

Joe: There was somethin' happening, cuz I 100% heard.. "Frank, I'm just trying to help you," then I pulled the sliding glass door. I heard that and then i turned the corner and I heard her...

Joe: ...and then Frank looked up and it went dead silent.
Brit: Yeah...
Joe: Until that moment, it's the 1st time that I know my vote 100%.  Cuz this afternoon, they sat me down, and they want an alliance, they want me on their side, they wanna throw Dan under the bus..
Shane: mm hmm
Joe: They wanna do all this.. They wouldn't have even said that.  Now.. It's dead silence.

Joe: So.. I think she said, "hey, you can count Joe out."  But she said this afternoon.. She told me that she was gonna be with us..
Shane: She's been drinkin' a little bit.
Joe: She's been drinkin' a lot.  And she had a big glass of wine out there with her too. That does not do Ashley any good.  That opens her mouth wider.
Brit: I feel awkward.. I was just about to go downstairs when you came up.
Joe: I think she just really opened her mouth about everything. Not that it's (intentional).. It's just her dumb ass.  Does she realize what she's getting into there?
Shane: No.
Danielle: She's siding with them. She's like..
Joe: But does she realize what that does to her?  How can you not look at the writing on the wall?  It's inevitable they're losing someone this week.
Danielle: And one of those people is already on the block, so that cuts it down to 4.. If he puts up somebody else..
Shane: Well, if Frank comes off..

Dan comes up to take a shower.  Britney says it's time for her to head downstairs.

Joe: What'd she say?
Shane: She's headin' out.  She's good at riot control.

***FYI - As of 9:12am, Boogie and Frank are now both awake.. Spark up your feeds folks! I now it's Sunday, but they mean to take care of business today..

Joe fills Dan in on the Ashley situation..

Dan: I don't think she knows she's on the dark side..
Shane: I'll scare her a little bit and tell her she's a replacement nom..
Joe: She's a lot smarter than you think.
Danielle: That's what I've been saying..

Joe: It's stupidity. I gotta F'in win HoH.  It just pisses me off ..
Shane: Do you think she threw the game?  Who the hell folds when it's you and one other person?
Joe: You coud be right..
Dani: I saw her and Frank talking this morning.. They picked her for a reason.. She threw it to him so she wouldn't get any blood on her hands by not winning.

Joe: I'll tell you this.  After that, I'm 100% that she's not with us.

Shane: That's fine.  Then I'm putting Jenn up as a replacement nominee, and she's gotta choose between Jenn and Frank.  Done. That's what's gonna happen. That's it.  Done.  My decision's made.


Shane: Peace, Chilltown!

Joe: This is gonna make Frank more cocky.
Shane: Why? Cuz he escaped again?
Joe: mm hmm
Shane: Yeah, but if one of us win, we'll backdoor him next week.  That's the best option..
Joe: Yeah.  That's the best option.  Period.

Downstairs, Danielle is tending to Dan's wound..

Joe: I think next week, there's a good chance one from each side could go home.  Which still gives us numbers.. So if it's a double evic, and he wins  1 HoH and we win one HoH.. we're still up by numbers.

Downstairs, Dan tells Danielle she should go to bed early, when he does.. but if she wants to go up there, go up there. (She does..)

Dan: I feel pretty good about the 4 of us.
Dani: Yeah, me too.

Ian enters the bathroom with Danielle's card from the PoV comp, and does his version of Danielle's accent.. She's delighted.

Joe tells Shane that Frank is working on Ashley, Jenn and Ian to come up and tell him to put Dan up as the ReNom..

Shane: I'm not gonna tellem what I'm gonna do.  When I have to do the replacement nom, I'm gonna look right to Dan, and just be like, Jenn... (and point)

Joe: Hahahahaha!  You definitely ought to do that.
Shane: I'm just gonna say, you'll know my decision Monday morning.  Now.. Get outa my house.
Joe: It's time.  There's 4 weeks left.  Put your money where your mouth is.  Let's play.
Shane: I'm gettin' fired up.  I'm a nice guy, but when stuff build up?  It's not good when I explode.
Joe: We can definitely take em down.
Shane: Without a doubt.
Joe: I would take our team over their team any day.
Shane: Absolutely.
Joe: Me, you, Dan, Brit and Danielle..  Come on.  As much as I wanna win HoH next week?  it would not hurt my feelings to see dan win it.
Shane: Aw!
Joe: Just so he could go..
Shane: That would be beautiful!
Joe Just so he could go, Here ya go, bitches.
Shane: yup!  It's game on, I guess.. It wont be game on til Monday after the meeting..
**Frank and Boogie have other plans.

Dan comes up to HoH...

Dan: Alright, Joe.  Get me up to speed.
**That's my job, Dan.
Joe: I don't know if I've said to you this, but I have your back 100%.
Dan: Likewise.

Joe: For the rest of the season...
Shane: That's awesome. That's huge in this game.
Dan: I appreciate that.
Joe: If anybody f's with you, I'm gonna take em out, one way or another.
Shane: Joe just said.. "It'd be great if I won HoH, but you know what'd be even better?  If Dan won it, and the look on their face."

Dan: hehe
Shane: Be like, what up bitches..
Joe: Just the things they're saying and doing.. it's not even game..
Dan: It's personal. 

Joe: So I think the lines been drawn.. I think Ashley's with them..
Dan: So you think it's Ashley, Jenn, Ian, Boogie, Frank?
**Remember, Joe is not aware of the Quack Pack.. and they're not telling him.
Joe: I think Ashley's gonna talk to both sides all day long, but I heard what I heard.
Dan: Yeah.
Joe: 100% without a shadow of a doubt, I heard  (ashley say) "Frank, I'm just trying to help you."

Joe tells Dan that Boogie and Frank are approaching everyone telling them to come up to Shane individually and tell him to put Dan up as the Renom..

Shane tells Dan how he plans to look at him during the ceremony and then say Jenn's name and point..

Dan: You could even take it one step further.  You could look at me and say, "Dan, you are not the replacement..

Joe: Oh, that's awesome.

Dan: I just can't believe he would line you up and say, ok, here's what you're gonna say.. You don't have a mind of your won, you don't have a mind of your own..
Joe: That's what he basically said.  Have em all march up and say operation thrtow Dan under the bus.
Dan: Do you think there's gonna be any fireworks, or no?
Joe: I don't know, but I think he thinks there's going to be..  he said something about Countdown Sunday's comin..

Shane: If we have a house meeting, and something's brought up, Ill either say I said it or I didn't..

Dan: I would come to the house meeting, and the second he started talking, I would stand up and say, "have a nice meeting guys.  I'll be outside on the swing.."

This conversation is ongoing, if you'd like to catch it on flashback...

While the evening did continue, I believe I've caught the key concepts and conversations here.. This concludes the Overnight Report. Boogie and Frank are already up plotting in the backyard, and they have been since 9:12am..  Litening in at 10:12am on feed 1 right now, they are still quite gung ho on getting Dan up as the Renom..

Frank: If they don't put Dan up there, I say we put Shane and Dan up next week.. but I really think we can talk Shane into putting Dan up.
Boogie: If Britney cosigns it, I think there's a much better potential..  If I can humanize Mike Boogie to her today, I think we can make this happen..

OK..  It's Sanity Sunday here in BBDish land!  Enjoy the feeds today!!  We'll see you back here for the Sunday Show Viewing Party at 7:50pm Eastern!

Please mind the critters...  Their mischief level should be off the charts today.



Blogger Pammela said...

Hi Carolyn,

Hi BBDishers,

Happy Sunday show day..always look forward to the DR's..

I love BB and AG promises live feeds 24/7 and so far it has been ok, but yesterday was too much, plus skippy has a trigger finger when it comes to "the" button..I just don't think it is right..IMHO

OK, I am done whining..sorry

Going to go read TOR..

Thanks for everything Carolyn and Lessa...and Gaytor for last night..


August 19, 2012 at 6:36 AM  
Blogger BBMommyJess said...

Good morning Caro!! :-)

Morning Dishers!! :-)

The next few days are bound to be very interesting!! Although I don't want Dan to win (because he has already done so) I really don't want him to leave yet! Down with the Frankenboogie!! Boogie needs to be out the door this week. He is such a negative person and a negative influence on Frank as well IMO.

August 19, 2012 at 6:48 AM  
Blogger PattyW said...

Good morning Caro and all you wonderful Dishers! I was out to our town festival last night so I just found out Frank won POV. Not the best news but I will live with it because I did get good news last night....my daughter found out that the baby she is goona have (maybe on my birthday, fingers crossed) is gonna be another grandson for me....YAY!!!

Cannot wait for all the week that ensues and the DE on Thursday :) See you all tonight at the viewing party tonight I hope. Have a great Sunday everyone!!!

August 19, 2012 at 6:54 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Good morning. Thank you for all you dp

August 19, 2012 at 6:55 AM  
Blogger jay-dubya said...

I love how Boogie is so mad about someone else beating him to the punch. Seriously? Threatening people while you're the one on the block? I hope Frank goes in the double!!

August 19, 2012 at 6:58 AM  
Blogger Nancy said...

Good morning! What a day yesterday waiting for them to ....finish sleeping post pov? What was that all about?? So assuming Boogster leaves Thursday and goes home, will Ian let him know in his goodbye message that he was the one that double crossed him?

August 19, 2012 at 7:02 AM  
Blogger ajs221 said...

Hi Carolyn,

Long day for you yesterday!! Thanks for staying with it for sooo long! As far as I can tell, they were sleeping for 2 hours after the comp???The comp was some kind of counting thing partnered with Poker. After all the waiting I was looking for some fireworks on BBAD and it couldn't have been more boring. Just before midnoght BB time there was a conversation going on with Frank, Jenn, Ian, and Ashley...implying that Joe was with them as well. If you could, since BBAD ended just after that conversation started would you update that little group and give us your opinion on whether this is a real alliance. Thank you!! I still don't have speakers that work, so don't have the feeds, but I sure wish I did today, especially cause this is your day off. Have a good day!! Enjoy!!

August 19, 2012 at 7:09 AM  
Blogger Brian kaplan said...

boogie is bitter. he hates that he will probably be evicted and knowing, in his eyes, those still in the game are inferior to him and his game play, will still be playing BB after he gets evicted. boogie apparently will cause a scene on thursday when he is evicted. should be entertaining to watch if he follows through.

August 19, 2012 at 7:09 AM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

((((Hugs Carolyn)))) and BB Buddies.

Thanks again for keeping us entertained while we waited (and waited) yesterday.

Conked out right after Lisa joined last night,so going now to catch up myself!

August 19, 2012 at 7:10 AM  
Blogger spilltojill.com said...

Danielle and SHane are cute together....i would love to see a real hookup between them (just for a day without them telling anyone)....

August 19, 2012 at 7:15 AM  
Blogger Basal Mouse said...

Good Morning Carolyn!!!

Yay Wil's pic is grey!

Good morning BBDish Lurkers :)

August 19, 2012 at 7:17 AM  
Blogger Mike said...

Hello Carolyn, hope your Sunday goes well!

True conundrum for Dan. He cannot and will not betray Ian.
Dan has a tough exterior so he can weather any storm Mike throws at him.

Frank should stay off the subject as his game continues beyond Mike's departure.

Ian has to know at some point he is #5 in the Quack Pack and not stepping up to aid or relieve Dan will not help his overall cause.

August 19, 2012 at 7:22 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Gooood morning!! :0) I'm still deep in the Overnight Report weeds..

August 19, 2012 at 7:42 AM  
Blogger BBMommyJess said...

Congrats on finding out about the new grandson!!!! :-)

August 19, 2012 at 7:47 AM  
Blogger Brian kaplan said...

will pandora box be played today? shane enticed to take something, the result being that boogie gets the golden poweer of veto? lets face it the show will be more boring without boogie stirring the pot. grodner has to know that and needs/wants to save him.

August 19, 2012 at 7:53 AM  
Blogger JadeDarkStar said...

good morning Carolyn and dishers

7hours was to long
and boogie will leave Thursday I don't see shane putting dan up at all.

August 19, 2012 at 7:55 AM  
Blogger Pammela said...

The Evil Duo is getting worse...I want to see them try and call out everyone...that will bring everyone over to Franks side for sure..:):) especially the threats..hehe

Have I said how much I love this game..yep

Congratulations PattyW on the up and coming birth of a wonderful Grandson..Grandkids are the best...:):)


August 19, 2012 at 7:55 AM  
Blogger JadeDarkStar said...

dani and shane are cute and look he let her sleep up there again. see if he didnt like her then why would he flirt, kiss and let her sleep up there with him.

I think they are very cute and should get together

August 19, 2012 at 7:56 AM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

Good morning all!

Boogie is self destructing!! I love it. How does he think it will help his chances of staying if he goes around bullying everyone?

I think I could have liked Frank without Boogie. The way they sit around bashing females is just too much for me. I can't wait to see Boogie walk out that door.

August 19, 2012 at 7:59 AM  
Blogger Nancy said...

Danielle, if Shane is so stupid and beneath you, why arey you still desperate for his attention?

August 19, 2012 at 8:02 AM  
Blogger Cindi said...

Good morning Carolyn. Thanks for all you do. Enjoy a well deserved Sunday Sanity Break after you finish the TOR.

Gaytor, thanks for all the FB times last night. I bet you're Caro's hero this morning!

Have a great day Dishers.

August 19, 2012 at 8:05 AM  
Blogger Sandra B. said...

Good morning Carolyn and Dishers.

Yesterday was such a let down with the feeds down so long. I wonder if the superpass was having tech problems. If thats the case I wish they would tell us.

August 19, 2012 at 8:06 AM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

Well, I see Bitter Boogie is back. I feel very sorry for him to live in a world where everyone are inferior morons who cannot possibly live up to his wonderfulness unless the sucumb to his every thought.

Go ahead Frank, follow him this week. I was really worried for Dan in the DE, but Frank could make my wishes come true by doing Boogie's wishes and acting out like him. Then all the "sheep" will see what it's like having to live in their world.

Oh wait, I forgot, Boogie's not vindictive and doesn't hold grudges. Well, that's what he said last night!

August 19, 2012 at 8:13 AM  
Blogger Rubyrooo said...

Good Morning Beautiful Carolyn,

I really fail to see how Frank and Boogie being on the block is Dan's fault. Does this all come back to Boogie thinking it was Dan who told Britney something Ian did?

The irony here is that Shane isn't doing anything Froogie didn't plan on doing. Boogie is the one who royally screwed up by going for the 10k and not the hoh.

August 19, 2012 at 8:16 AM  
Blogger David Lockner said...

Good Morning Carolyn!!!

Here's another convo for you to check out... apprx. 1230AM HOH Room...Joe comes running in all excited, says "We've Lost Ashley"

After calming him down, Shane gets the whole story from Joe, and shane decides replacemnent nom should be Jenn, to make Ashley have to choose between Frank and Jenn..Shane actually had a touch of vindictive sound during that convo

August 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

Ok, one more Boogie rant and then I'll play nice.

Who are these two guys to "demand" an answer from anyone?

I wish Shane would grow a set and give the bully speech Frank gave a few weeks ago during the POV comp ceremony. He could tell everyone he hates bullies and it's not right, so he is very sorry he has to replace a bully who pulled himself off the block.

Ok, rambling done. My point here is that every year we have those who get very bitter and truly don't understand why others won't "play the game" or "float to the end". Everyone is playing the game, even if it's not the way you want them to. If they are in the house and you are gone, you didn't play the way YOU should have. It's about reading poeple to make them want to keep you there and theb winning comps when you have to.

Your only goal in that house is to stay to the end.

August 19, 2012 at 8:22 AM  
Blogger Rubyrooo said...

Hi Carolyn,

Last night I heard them talking about Boogie yelling at Dan and him mentioning Jerry, followed by... I can't beleive he brought that up, especially since it is still in litigation. Then we were sent fishing. Wednesday's show should be pretty interesting.

August 19, 2012 at 8:23 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

Thanks for all you do Carolyn and crew!

Frank: "I just think.. if they don't f'in play ball? And you go home? I ain't got f'in nobody to work with."

Boogie: "I know. Nobody."

Don't they realize that it is their own fault? They have been attached to each others' side the whole game, basically ignoring or mocking all the others, while SHOWING everyone else that their bromance is the tightest alliance in the house.

I think that Boogie has ruined Frank's game and been arrogant in thinking he could play the game the same as last time; "If only I can find me Dr. Will, I can roll through this game." Give me a break.

August 19, 2012 at 8:26 AM  
Blogger Dmcc said...

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, Boogie!!!!

(Fingers crossed.... Fingers crossed.)

August 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM  
Blogger piper said...

I found that my favorites in the game tend to be someone that I could be around in real life.

I would not want a Frank or a Boogie as a friend, neighbor or coworker. I don’t want to be around someone that calls everyone that disagrees with them a m-fer. It is very immature and tells a lot about their happiness in life.

Frank seems to have two personalities; one that wants to please Nana and be a nice boy and one that feels entitled and wants popularity and attention. It could be the result of growing up the son of a man that gained a lot of popularity in his profession and expected the same of his son.

Boogie seems to have issues that may go back a long way. He has anger when he feels that he is not respected. It is his way or the highway, only out of insecurities. His physical appearance is not conventional which may have caused him to be excluded by people in his life. That is sad.

I prefer to be around someone with a good heart which I do see as the majority in the BB house. Just like you can have and enjoy a blog without hate and negativity. Hate and disagreement are very different things.

August 19, 2012 at 8:40 AM  
Blogger WendyBBFanatic said...

They needed and wanted to save Janie too but that didn't happen. It was too early to stir things up with a PB though. I am hoping he gets to stay somehow, it would be Epic and great drama. Would love to see a house divided!

August 19, 2012 at 8:43 AM  
Blogger rob tan said...

So F & B think Shane and Brit should accept their hostility and do what they want them to do? Thats the dumbest thing I've heard. Everything that went down friday night put an end to one of them staying, or should have.

August 19, 2012 at 8:45 AM  
Blogger Krystal_Danielle said...

Did Danielle sleep in the HOH? I don't see her in the bed with Britney (it's 8:53a.m. right now).

August 19, 2012 at 8:52 AM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

I agree completely! I hate when someone complains that no one will play the game.... Boogie just doesn't know how to handle not getting his way.

August 19, 2012 at 8:52 AM  
Blogger WendyBBFanatic said...

Good Morning Caro (((hugs)))

I hope Boogie can pull a rabbit out of his ass(hat) and stay. The other side of the house draws the line, Ian has to come out and pick a side and the line is drawn. This would make it more exciting than it has been. Plus I am a Boogie fan. I don't see it happening, it is time for a PB though. That will prolly happen after the Veto Ceremony though. I still wonder if the balls have anything to do with anything. I hope a DPOV or something gets put in play. Frank/Boogie get it and replace noms with Dan/Dani and Dani walks out the door. I so wish JoJo would have stayed over her. I cant take much more of her lies and poorme attitude.

August 19, 2012 at 8:59 AM  
Blogger K-Mac said...

He said he would. He was planning his goodbye message yesterday. He said he was going to say "like father like son" or something along those lines.

August 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Good morning

A whole new level of disgust has hit.

Frank plans on using more intimidation tactics. Boogie is going to call out Joe on the live show to embarrass him in front of his kids-that's a new low, even for Boogie.

I don't care if they have been lied to. They have also been lying. They were never a 4 person team, it was a 2 person team with 2 people who were disposable. Jenn baffles me. Unless she is playing Frankenboogie she is a fool to believe she is in any way a part of an alliance with them at this point. They don't give a crap about Jenn. They only care about getting revenge.

Brit, Dan, Shane and Danielle have done nothing to Frankenboogie that Frankenboogie weren't going to do to them. They just did it first and they did it better.

There is nothing I can like or respect about Frank or Boogie. Not their game and not them as people. It's how you handle losing more than how you handle winning that shows who you are. Shane and Danielle were both on the block. They didn't threaten and intimidate people. They didn't trash people on a purely personal and non-game related level. Britney got totally screwed over in her season. She was disappointed and hurt and needed some time alone to deal with it. But she left with class and no hard feelings for being outplayed. And Dan has gone through being bullied and having his name dragged through the mud. He doesn't act the way he does because he's cocky and arrogant. He has enough class not to get in a fight with the playground bullies over a game show. Maybe they think he's egging them on because he can laugh everything off. I think he finds it quite funny that grown men, can act like children and not feel humiliated by their own behavior.

Yes Frankenboogie, you are liars just as much as anyone else. You are backstabbers just like anyone else. And you most definitely are bullies and you Frank are a hypocrite.

August 19, 2012 at 9:31 AM  
Blogger PattyW said...

Thanks :) I am excited!!

August 19, 2012 at 9:36 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Also-really sick of the sense of entitlement some people have. What gives them any right to say they want it more or they deserve it more. They are so full of self-righteous indignation they are blind to the fact that the only one making fools of them are themselves.

And by the way, why is Frank so incredibly pissed off and offended on such a personal level because Wil lied about his background? Maybe I missed it, but as far as I know Frank hasn't told anyone but Boogie who his father is.

I really hope AGP's love affair with Frank is over. Oh, and Frank,word on the street-Dan didn't cause you to be in this position, Boogie did. And you let him do it. (Can't wait until Frankenboogie find out a 21 year old boy they consider a social misfit has outplayed both of them.)

August 19, 2012 at 9:38 AM  
Blogger ChristyinAL said...

This is what boogie and frank don't know... Right now, Shane has brit, Danielle, Dan,Ian and Joe. Why would he backstab all those people for an alliance with a pair?

August 19, 2012 at 9:39 AM  
Blogger Pammela said...

OOOMMMGGG...I love Shane's blue shirt...BB14Dish.com...wOOtWoOt...:):)

August 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM  
Blogger Pammela said...

LOL...Good placement Carolyn...oh well..

August 19, 2012 at 9:51 AM  
Blogger Pally said...

Looking at the last photo of Shane you posted Carolyn and I'm thinking,"Oh look, Shane's wearing a BBdish shirt-too cool!"....then I realize that's not really on his shirt above the Vermont title LOL
I crack myself up..good morning everyone*
Although we got got by skippy napping yesterday on the feed button, I really enjoyed my time with everyone on Dish. ty ty
Pally :D

August 19, 2012 at 9:54 AM  
Blogger PattyW said...

Thanks! Grandkids are awesome :)

August 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM  
Blogger Have naughty said...

I am 100% in agreement with you. If Boogie leaves and Frank follows him out the door, this season will go down the crapper soon thereafter. Would love to see them both survive and see the other side scrambling for their lives for the first time in this game.

August 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Sorry about the last two posts. This is always the point where I get personally and passionately involved. There are always people who are not my cup of tea, but they don't give me reason to hate them, like JoJo. There are people I like who don't play a great game like Jordon. There are people I don't like who I can admit play a good game. But when I see things about a person's true character that makes me uncomfortable, it always puts me on guard. Usually they are unpleasant to watch when they are winning. But they become downright hostile when they are losing.

Most people who know Boogie's background in and out of BB know he isn't an incredibly pleasant person so to speak. This game is everything to him. This is his claim to fame.

As for Frank, I've had a bad feeling about him since shortly after the game started. When he picked that fight with Willie I just didn't buy his 'good ole boy' routine. I see looks on his face and hear offhand comments that he lets slip out and then tries to cover with a "It was just a joke." I just don't get a 'nice guy' feeling about him. I see flashes of temper and anger that he is barely holding under the surface. I would not want to be living in that house with him. I really do think he is a classic bully type.

August 19, 2012 at 10:12 AM  
Blogger Pally said...

Great photo of Dan laughing..His spirit shines radiant!

August 19, 2012 at 10:13 AM  
OpenID blue-eyes64 said...

Hi, long time lurker on the dish here. I love this site, and can't imagine a big brother season without you guys. Your insight into the hg and your comments always make me laugh. Sometimes i come just to read the comments! That being said, i am completely baffled by Boogie and Frank's style of gameplay this year. Honestly, their tactics are classic bully behavior. Another thing that constantly confuses me is the houseguests throwing around the word "floater". Everyone always called Jordan a floater, but i keep going back to a conversation she had with Jeff, when he told her "you help me in ways you don't even know". Then two seasons later Rachel said the exact same thing to Jordan. Obviously winning comps isn't everything in this game, maybe sometimes just providing emotional support is good game play too. I think that is why some of the pairs in this game work so well together and compliment each other. Where Frank and Boogie seem to feed off each other. Thanks for letting me vent, and thanks for all you do here.

August 19, 2012 at 10:15 AM  
Blogger CZ said...

What injury does Dan have and when did he get injured?

August 19, 2012 at 10:25 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...


Thank you for that post. I think what you said was dead on.

August 19, 2012 at 10:25 AM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Gooood morning, Everyone!! :0)

Thank you very much for being here!! I'm heading out for my Sunday Sanity break-- today that means a nice long bike ride.. and lunch with my mother..

I'll see you back here tonight for the Sunday Show Viewing Party. :0)


August 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM  
Blogger Pammela said...

Have fun...:):)

August 19, 2012 at 10:31 AM  
Blogger Brenda said...

Top o the morning Carolyn & Dishers :),
Grueling wait on pov yesterday... kept checking in and finally went to #bb14 where a game of #whywehavetrivia was running rampant & really hilariously entertaining but I gained an even more enormous appreciation for all the bloggers, so huge hugs to (((Carolyn & Lessa))) for this awesome & loving bb home and all that ya'll do!
Before I forget, congrats PattyW on another grandson coming!
Really hope Booger gets gooone, ol meanie... I felt sorry for Shane yesterday when Frankenboogie (love that!) were all po'd up in the hoh room, demanding to know why he put them up & if it was Brit. I was kind of disappointed when he took the easy out & ran that bus all over Britney but clearly he hadn't prepared himself for that fallout and he did offer to go straighten it out later...not that it would have changed much since F/B were already blaming Dan by then. So, it's Boogie & Jenn now, hopefully with Boogs leaving? I hope Shane doesn't open PB (yeah, I know, not gonna happen)... don't want to see Dan leave so early either tho.
Well, at least we won't be bored with all this drama playing out this week and the DE !
Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend ! Getting a wonderful soaking rain this morning in south Texas...so grateful :).

August 19, 2012 at 10:31 AM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Now that Frankenboogie are on the campaign trail they will just about talk a person to death. People will try to get rid of them just so they don't have to listen anymore. That was the thing that always bothered me so much about Brenchel. State your case and then give it a rest for a few minutes.

Boogie's tactic for the day-pulling on Britney's baby heartstrings. Boogie has a baby, Britney wants a baby. Hey, wait-didn't Janelle have a baby. That was one of the excuses Boogie had for saying it was o.k. to backdoor her. "This way she won't have to go to jury. She can go home and be with her baby." I'm guessing Britney's heartstrings will tell her that Brady needs his daddy. Bye-bye Boogie.

Earlier this morning Frank said he thinks he can make Dan cry. Then he said the DR gave him a great line to use on Dan. (Oh, look, fishies) Needless to say, the credibility of the show this season is just about at the zero mark.

August 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

Carolyn, enjoy your time and tell Mom hi for us. In fact, ((((Mom)))) for us!

We will mind the critters, or at least try to. See you tonight.

August 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

"Frank: If they don't put Dan up there, I say we put Shane and Dan up next week.. but I really think we can talk Shane into putting Dan up."

Frank, next week there is no "WE".

August 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM  
Blogger Doubting Thomas said...

Here's today's AM bathroom scorecard:
3:20AM Danielle -- Uses bathroom - Washes hands
3:21AM Britney -- Uses bathroom - Washes hands
3:52AM Joe -- Uses bathroom - Does not wash hands
6:30AM Ashley -- Uses bathroom - Washes hands and face
7:20AM Frank -- Uses bathroom - Washes hands
8:04AM Joe -- Uses bathroom - Does not wash hands
8:30AM Jenn -- Uses bathroom - Washes hands
9:10AM Boogie -- Uses bathroom - Does not wash hands
I can't tell you about the others, they must be holding it in.

August 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM  
Blogger Doubting Thomas said...

I saw someone mention Boogie and a lawsuit, and got curious....Holy Cow!!! I don't know if any of you have seen this (it is a year old) but it would explain why Boogie is so bitter at leaving BB, as he needs the money badly!


Big Brother winner Mike "Boogie" Malin and his business partner, VH1 reality star Lonnie Moore, are being sued by their former business partner Shereene Arazm for embezzlement.

Arazm says that the the two "illegally siphoned away [money] to support their lavish party-boy lifestyles." She says that for years, they were stealing money from her investment, the Geisha House, LLC restaurant group

In the lawsuit, she claims:

"They gambled away hundreds of thousands of dollars that never belonged to them, they used some of the stolen monies to pay for sex, and they traveled the world at Arazm's and the restaurant group's expense."

But get this!! She also alleges that Boogie used company money and resources "to have multiple sexual encounters with various older men during which Malin would live out fetish role play fantasies."

Whoa!! What the…

Boogie is fighting back though. He says that she tried to extort him by telling him that a week before filing the lawsuit, she would air his dirty laundry if he didn't pay up quickly. He's also suing on the claims that her people hacked into his emails and tapped his phone.

Arazm's responded to Boogie's lawsuit, saying:

"The lawsuit filed by Malin was simply a preemptive strike since Malin and his partners knew they were being sued for serious wrongful conduct. The claims in the suit are completely false and fabricated. We fully expect to get the suit promptly dismissed."

Those are some pretty crazy claims there.

August 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM  
OpenID blue-eyes64 said...

So is everyone else as confused as i am as to where Ashley is at in this game or is it just me?

August 19, 2012 at 11:19 AM  
Blogger K-Mac said...

I thought I posted a good morning... But i guess i didn't, so good morning all :) Carolyn, what a long day for you yesterday - thanks for hanging in there.

Excited for the show tonight and to see how the edit boogie to look like a fool.... Oh wait to editing needed!!!

August 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

LOL, Frank thinks Dan is out to get him because Dan has a mancrush on Boogie and he's upset that Boogie chose Frank over him. Boogie agrees.

Also, they both say they are true to who they are and would never change just because they are in the house. But Dan is a snake and not true to anyone. The only reason he took Memphis to the end was because he knew he could crush him. They agree they could never play like that.

That is why I love this game, the social experiment. We all see the same things but interpret them and the players so differently. The way they are seeing Dan as having evil intentions is the way many of us see them. Oh Big Brother.

Oh and by the way guys. Keep on saying it's sad how Ian is here just for the experience. Little do you know he is playing the game and playing both of you. Wonder how you will interpret that when you get out of the house and see it.

Wish I had the flashback time, but I am already on flashback so can't find time stamp. It was late in their conversation this morning, about 15 minutes before they go in for breakfast.

August 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM  
Blogger seven+ said...

I agree there are people who can play in the sandbox and people who can't. I guarantee you he cant. He has all the signs of a spoiled brat

August 19, 2012 at 11:56 AM  
Blogger ncmelt said...

I agree as well - bullies go home

August 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

Good morning Carolyn

There was a very long private conversation last night around 2:30 - 3:00 between Frank and Brit in the arcade room that you should really listen to. If I didn't know better (and I hope I'm right) it sounded like Brit was wavering on getting Boogie out and having Shane put up Dan.

I couldn't figure out where she was going with that whole conversation except to possibly cover her ass with Frank when Boogie leaves.

Anyone else see this conversation? What's your take?

August 19, 2012 at 1:09 PM  
Blogger K-Mac said...

Ok so, I know it's Sunday and this won't be posted for a while, but I have to vent.

Does it bother anyone else how Frank and Boogie are suddenly "gangsters" when it's just the two of them bashing everyone else in the house? "That motherf#^#er, this motherf#*@er" I'm so cool I'm so badass, blah blah blah. UGH! Get over yourselves. You're petty little boys who have been your own your own demise in this game. Someone said it yesterday, and it so just so true. Dr. Will is embarrassed right now. Gauranteed. #teamDan

August 19, 2012 at 1:24 PM  
Blogger Lucky13 said...

Britney must go!!!

August 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM  
Blogger David BfromCanada said...

comedy gold comin says ian

August 19, 2012 at 3:05 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Happy Sunday, Caro and dishers,
if this gets posted before live show party, great, if not, that's ok,too.
K-Mac: I agree with you. I admit to using the F word quite a bit, but Frank really throws MotherF#cker around way too much.
I am really upset that Boogie said he is going to "use his baby" to get Brit on his side because she wants to be a mom so bad and he will try to appeal to her being a woman. I do think Brit is smart enough to know he s full of it. There is no way now that she will tell Shane to do anything. She already feels she took the blame for this week's noms. I kind of feel like it's a lock for Boogie to leave and hopefully, Frank will follow behind.
I have had enough of both of their attitudes. Boogie acting like a baby who didnt get his way and their sense of entitlement
They seem to think they are the only ones playing the game? really? Well, I have news for them. Ian has been playing all along and IMO better than anyone else in that house. Nobody should want to sit next to him in final 2. and one last thing. There is no rule that says to win, you have to win comps. All you have to do is be the last 2 people sitting at the end. Doesn't matter how you get there, just that you do. sorry, so long. I dont post often, but when I do I get our everything I have to say,

August 19, 2012 at 3:06 PM  
Blogger Stacey said...

Hi everybody!

Lots of action yesterday...especially in comments! We must've broke the record...blue said around 500 before and we busted 600!! Woo!

BBAD was a snore tho really I was so disappointed lol.

So..franknboogie r pissed that they got got a week before they were gonna do the same thing (altho frank was wanting to do it last week and boogie acknowledges that frank was right now...altho that's the very reason its happening lol since ian told the qp they had considered bd dan)
They actually believe they can go w the vote for me or else tactic. Wow. Because if u don't u'll have 1 pissed off guy to deal w...o no! (if frank had a brain in his head he would follow ashley's advice to him as opposed to his "one man wrecking ball"...and distance himself from boogie. Boogie has all but ignored jenn and has only paid slightly more attention to ian which includes insulting him but for some reason thinks they owe them their votes.

Boogie has a distorted view of his game prowess. If things r going well he's cocky but quite pleasant...but has terrible tantrums when they r not. He's very reactionary and without will to talk him down he's a loose cannon and wants to punish those who make him look foolish (its usually himself and as he can't face that he must find another target) and frank unfortunately feeds off his hostility instead of talking him down....its too bad. Frank's game would be so much better, and he less of a target, if he had put more distance between them and socialized more.

I find it interesting that froogie believe that calling out dan and bullying is the way to try to get a toe hold right now...reading people isn't their strong suite...dan is the most unflusterable person...ever. And no one else there likes bullies....so I'm hoping they will look like a couple of spazzes while dan et al just hang out and smile...I hope dan coaches them to be calm in the face of their tirade...

I love dan but I don't want a vet to win...I do believe vets should play w vets and BB on the reg should be about average people locked in a house (w/o AGP interference!)

As for floaters etc....strategy is strategy. We either like it or we don't same w personalities. We tend to "like" what's similar to our own. I personally don't "like" what is called floating because that's not how I'd do it...but I can't fault the strategy if it gets someone to final 2 can I??

So there's my long winded blah blah for today!

Hope everyone is having a fabulous day and i'll tt u guys during show time!

Carolyn I hope u had a lovely ride and lunch w ur mom!

August 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM  
Blogger sfisher said...

Thank you for saying exactly what I wanted to say. What a bitter bitter man.

August 19, 2012 at 3:20 PM  
Blogger sfisher said...

I totally agree. What a bitter bitter man.

August 19, 2012 at 3:24 PM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

Hmmm, something was up with the comp yesterday. Brit just whispered to Shane that someone said Joe went to the diary room and complained about Frank cheating in the comp yesterday. Shane said Oh no! Then, guess what fishies.

Feeds came back and Brit started to talk about it again and guess what ... fishies.

Think that's what all the weirdness was about yesterday when they came back on. Could also be why feeds were off so long after comp. Was production reviewing tapes? If so, they obviously didn't see anything.

Things that make ya go hhhmmmmmm?!?

August 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

No wonder I relate to Dan so much. His birthday is the day before mine!

August 19, 2012 at 3:42 PM  
Blogger ltcmek said...

Random thought -- am watching Brit in the HOH and from the profile, she looks like a young Dolly Parton (without all the make up) when she laughs.

August 19, 2012 at 3:51 PM  
Blogger Stacey said...


I totally agree! I forgot in my long winded post to mention that!

How does having a baby make an agrument for staying when it was the agrument for sending janelle home? Won't the maternal instincts that he is trying to trigger in brit (cause women r so bloody stupid that as soon u mention "baby" we r overcome w gushiness and will do anything u tell us...o do f#ck off booger) send him home to be w his son?? When he first mentioned this flawed strategy to frank I thought I'd misheard him....

I'm really hoping AGP edits him accurately....but hey they've been real slow w the edit gold they've got on danielle so who knows!


August 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM  
Blogger David Lockner said...

Watching Dan and Brits convo on the couch, and realizing I've seen this before with Dan and other people at various times...

It's definitely part of his gameplay...being a coach irl he has to know what makes each of his players tick in order to maximize their strengths, by pushing the right buttons...

he des the same in the BB house...he has seemingly harmless conversations with other houseguests, acting genuinely interested in their outside lives and childhoods, all the while in his head, he's making a profile of that person so he can know what buttons to push later when he needs them to do something for him, or vote his way, etc...

Although I'd rather see Ian win this season,I have to give Dan huge kudos on under the radar gameplay, just by being sociable...

August 19, 2012 at 4:15 PM  
Blogger Stacey said...

O and hi blue eyes!

Nice to hear from u! :0)

Very good points! Agree!

August 19, 2012 at 4:18 PM  
Blogger Stacey said...

David lockner

Yup...dan is definitely the all time best player! Every conversation he has in that house...everything he does...right down to when he just happens to be in HOH listening to music...and don't believe for a second when he says he made a "mistake" or "accidently" said or did something....its right up there w of course I always try to win those darn comps....lol....he's so great! And unemotional....drives froogie batty...loooove dan's game!


August 19, 2012 at 4:28 PM  
Blogger Lou LouinVA said...

Stacey -- I u are so right. I really agree to your complete post. I have been thinking the same thing for days. You just said it much better than I could have. Thank you for reading my mind.

Also thank you Carolyn and Lessa for all u do for me and others. I don't comment much but read everything you post.

Been reading this blog for years and get my feeds from your site. Love BB and love BBdish. Have a wonderful and stressless Sunday afternoon. See u a viewing party.

Lou in Virginia

August 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Stacey, I think Boogie was saying he would "playoff Brit's maternal instincts" in regards to him staying to play because after he said something about wanting to mention his restaurants are not doing well and that it's not that he is so well off that he "doesn't need the money" Actually I really don't know what exactly he means aside from that I can see he is suddenly pretty desperate and is pulling stuff out of his pockets. It's too bad for Frank because I think a lot more people (inside the house and out) would like him more if he didn't align himself exclusively with Boogie. I know this alliance has clouded my views of him more than if he was playing for himself. If Boogie does leave Thursday and Frank stays, it will be interesting to see how he acts.

August 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM  
Blogger rob tan said...

She was covering her ass. She couldnt handle the heat when shane put them up so now she is trying to avoid all blood

August 19, 2012 at 7:15 PM  
Blogger rob tan said...

Ash will float to the piwer till she has to win or go home. At which point, she will win or go home

August 19, 2012 at 7:17 PM  
Blogger rob tan said...

I dont alwats wash my hands either

August 19, 2012 at 7:20 PM  

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