BB15: Monday Morning Before the PoV Ceremony
Right away I'm wondering if Helen will make good on her promise for an all-house minus McCrae and Amanda meeting up in HoH to solidify the plan (that may or may not exist only in her mind) for Aaryn to put Amanda up as the replacement today, and to simultaneously prove to Aaryn that she has the support of the house to do so. We shall see!
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8:39am
Cam 1
Helen is whispering to GM in the bathroom, telling her everything she talked to Aaryn about last night. GM, who is annoyed/threatened by Amanda's closeness to Aaryn is spilling what little she knows to Helen.
GM: Why did Andy even tell her?
Helen: I don't know..
GM: He can't play both sides at one time.
Helen: We're gonna have to call him out. We'll have to talk to Aaryn 1st..
GM: What'd she say?
Helen: She's thinking of doing it, as long as I can get Spencer, so we have to get Spencer up there.
GM: Oh geez..
8:43am
BB: Aaryn, Amanda, McCrae! Have you changed your batteries?
Helen: I mean, I always thought Andy was on my side..
GM: Everybody gets pussy about it.. I wanted her f'in out. But no, everyone's a pussy and everyone kisses ass.
**such a lady.
8:46am
BB: Ginamarie, please put on your microphone.
While Gm and Helen put their eyes in and their faces on in the downstairs bathroom, Aaryn's in the kitchen pouring herself some coffee..
Helen: It just makes no sense..
GM: I'm with you. I'll go down with my ship.
Helen: It makes no sense.
Cam 3 --Aaryn heads outside to the backyard..
GM: I hope he's not becoming a f'in Candice. He knows what I do with F'in Candices..
Helen: Last night, he said he was going to bed, then he went back up there. Before all of this even happened, I guess her and Aaryn got in a fight with her.. (Helen pushes the right button) And she's like, we're fine, we're like best friends now.
GM: Yeah, she was like, we fight like sisters. No, you don't. Always goin to the power, just like she was suckin' McCrae's dick the 1st week.
Helen: She spent the whole week trying to get Jeremy out, then when he was evicted, she shouts, We love you Jeremy! Why? In case he comes back, he'd come after me, not her.
GM: That's why I never trust her. Always go where the power goes..
8:55am
HoH
Helen and Aaryn
Aaryn returns to the HoH Room to find Helen there waiting to pounce.
Helen: So last night was really weird.. (fishies) So I saw Andy had said he was going to go to bed, and he said, no he didn't.. And then Amanda comes back up and pulls McCrae..
Aaryn: Umm.. Spencer said he wouldn't vote. If I put him on the block.. So they're all working together. Andy told me that, not him.
Helen: I can't believe that. I can't believe Andy.
Aaryn: I think you have a better chance against Spencer.
Helen: I would need Andy for that.
Helen: As I was walking, Amanda yelled out, It aint gonna happen.. She knew?
Aaryn: She caught onto it the first time when we she walked in and we were talking.
Helen: I was just walking, and she was like, It ain't gonna happen.
Aaryn: I told her I'm putting up Spencer tomorrow, but I really don't know who to trust anymore.. And I'm sick of being used, and I feel like I've been used a lot in this game. I can't believe Spencer said that though..
Helen: I think you need to talk to him though. Why would he want to go on the block?
Aaryn: Unless he's positive he has the numbers..
Helen: I can't believe Andy.. I can't believe Andy..
Aaryn: Spencer was like laying in bed and Andy told him.. and Spencer's like, I'm not voting her (Amanda) out. I don't know. This worries me.
Helen: I just can't believe that Andy would side with Spencer over me.
Aaryn: I think Andy has more of a chance to side with you.. because he told me, I'm on board with you.
Helen: I think we have to get Spencer up here.
Aaryn: I'll talk to Spencer alone.
**this is the same argument used by Spencer, Howard, Candice, Jessie and so many more before them. The only difference is that it's the 1st time Helen's been on the outside.
Helen: I just cant believe Andy can't be trusted.
Aaryn: I told you weeks ago that Andy goes into every room.. He even had a final 2 with Jessie..
Helen: Doesn't he know they (Amanda and McCrae) will not take him?Aaryn: She's told me most people wont take him..
Helen: Yeah.. because Andy has no blood on his hands. We have to send the message to Spencer.. Do you want to be low man on the totem pole and always be pawned week to week?
Aaryn: I feel like us, he doesn't trust. He trusts Amanda and McCrae.. We'd ask him and he'd realize he'd still go up as a pawn, because who else would??
Helen: I know this is a wild card, but McCrae has to realize that if he goes to the end with her, he can't win. Unless he makes a move against her, he'll be viewed as the guy who was carried to the end by his girlfriend.. She wants to take you to the end because she knows she can beat you. If you don't make a move now on her, every week that goes by gets tougher. If you don't do it, you're gonna have to take her rules and direction the rest of the game.. and when you get to the end, people are gonna be like, McCrae, you didn't do anything but hang on a popsicle.
Aaryn: The scary thing about Amanda is she's never won a comp, but she's one of the strongest players here.
Helen: Last night, when she came down, she called you guys best friends. I'm like, does she have a delusional mind?
Aaryn: And Andy said something about me coming up with everything to her. I guess that's where his loyalty is.. He relays everything to them.
Helen: I have to tell Elissa.. You've got to work with Gm and Aaryn.
Aaryn: I think she already knows that people are going to vote against you, and my impression is, she doesn't care. That's why she was beasting the veto. She took your spot on the stump. That's how she is in this game, and I'm pretty sure that's how she is outside too. I almost think Amanda and Elissa are working together, and Amanda's trying to pull her in, without you being the barrier.. And she's gonna use her to try to get me out.
Helen: I totally believe that. And then Spencer, Andy and McCrae just sit in the middle. And she's gonna take McCrae to the finals, and he's gonna sit there like a wet puppy dog.
Timecheck -- 9:14am --This is ongoing.. on Camera 3. But they've hit the spin cycle...
9:21am
I spy GM and Elissa in the downstairs bathroom on Camera 1 and 2... Flipping there, I here GM talking about loyalty.. Elissa's responses are "yeah" "mm hmm" "yeah, totally." GM is still quite hopeful that the Aaryn usurper Amanda will find herself on the block today..
9:24am
BB: Helen, please come to the Diary Room.
Helen: I might hide up here the rest of the week, if she goes Kamikaze style.
Aaryn: Yeah.. I'll talk to Spencer.
9:28am
Elissa to HoH.. Aaryn tells her that Spencer will be going up..
Elissa: Oh my gosh.. If you could put her up.. That would be the biggest.. That would determine your game.
Aaryn: She's done a lot.. even not winning anything. She could still make the final 2 without ever winning a veto.
Elissa: Her and McCrae are gonna pretend they're not working together, and then they're gonna take each other to final 2. I almost believed her for like 10 minutes yesterday, and then I was like, there's no way Aaryn would tell her that.
Aaryn: I was gonna put her up, but Spencer said there's no way he'll vote her out, so there's no point. I think Helen has more of a chance to sty with Spencer on the block.. There's basically gonna be one deciding vote, and that's Andy. No matter who goes on the block, Andy decides.
**hehehe.. So Aaryn is trying to share the blood spatter for the week with Spencer and Andy.. Will it stick?
**can you tell I watched Dexter last night?
9:45am
Cam 3
Gm's Turn in HoH
Gm: I kinda tried to explain it to her, but..
9:46am
Cam 1
Bathroom
Elissa: That's why I told you, you need to campaign hard.
Helen: I have Ginamarie's vote and I have your vote.. You went to bed and it was a shitstorm last night, Elissa. People are trying to get me to fight with you..
Elissa: Pretend we are fighting, so they don't think we're working together.. Just be like I'll work with you guys.
Helen: That won't work because they have Amanda and Spencer.. and they think they have Andy..
Elissa: So do you think Aaryn was really considering putting Amanda up?
Helen: ('s ego) She was. For sure.
BB: Helen, please put on your microphone.
Busted, Helen goes silent.
BB: Aaryn, please go to the Diary Room.
Elissa: If one of us win..
Helen: (whispers) The thing is, now Amanda thinks I'm the one who came up with it. Which is fine. I don't really care. McCrae.. and Andy.. I still need Andy's vote..
Elissa: And they're manipulating him. I keep saying, Amanda, you have the best social game, and she's like, no, Andy does..
Helen: Throwing him under the bus..
Elissa: You have to tell him.
Helen: Andy's a rat.
Elissa: If I won next week, I would put up Aaryn and Amanda, and then backdoor McCrae, so one would go home.
Helen: Or, you could put them both up, so McCrae doesn't have a chance to win Veto and take her off the block. I don't think you put Aaryn on the block initially, because you need Aaryn.. You wont have the votes otherwise. Do you see why? The only votes you'll have to get them out are you, Aaryn and Ginamarie.
Elissa: You have to tell her that.
Helen: You need to tell her she'll work with her. If I leave, it's because Andy lied. And Andy's gonna lie.
Elissa: Who said I didn't care if you left or stayed?
Helen: A couple of people. I don't even remember.
Elissa: Aaryn said it.
Helen: Aaryn did not.
**Aaryn did.
Helen: I need to go eat some slop. I didn't even run this morning, cuz I'm feeling so weak.
Elissa: I can't even eat that, and they don't seem to care.
Helen: You and I need to talk to Aaryn, so she knows for next week..
Timecheck -- 9:58am
10:21 - They're still in there and alive.. just mercifully quiet for the past 20 minutes.
10:28am
BB: Elissa, please go to the Diary Room.
Elissa: There it is. Do you think it's gonna start right now?
Helen: It's time.
Elissa: I'm excited but.. I hope she puts Amanda up.
Elissa: I'm so dressed up and everyone else is gonna be in shorts and jeans.
Helen: It's your Veto Meeting.
Elissa: And I always dress up.
10:34am -- Trivia! Time for the PoV Ceremony! We'll see you back here in a new top post with the PoV Spoiler and Aftermath as soon as the feeds come back and the HGs start talking.
The live feed updates will continue within this post until the PoV Ceremony begins. Please refresh the post periodically for new info.
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 8:45 AM
35 Comments:
OH please call Andy out!!
could this be the day I've been waiting for ? I'll be glued to my mobile....Let there be DRAMA!
Carolyn
From TOR: andy, helen, and aaryn are exceptional liars too, but Amanda has a way of manipulating feelings through conversation. Thats why she has Mccrae, thats why she has Spencer, and thats why she swiped Andy and Aaryn away from Helen. She has some strange ability to influence people to protect her
I dont see anyway Amanda goes up. Aaryn knows she wont have the votes. Mccrae, Andy, and Spencer will evict Helen. Plain and simple
I don't think Helen will have any influence over Spencer. He can't stand her. He knows she looks down on him and others. He absolutely despises her.
As for the relationship between Andy and Helen-this is the point when I think Helen is delusional or incredibly hypocritical. He does not owe her anything.
All of these people came into the house on equal footing, as strangers. Throughout the progression of a group of people realizing they could work Elissa's mvp to their advantage, the blindside of Nick and the dissolution of the Moving Company, an alliance was formed. There were 7 people who agreed to work together, control the vote and get to jury. Within that group was the Knock Outs-Andy, Amanda, McCrae, Helen and Judd. They made a pact to be the final 5. Andy saw Helen talk about backdooring and/or blindsiding Amanda no less than 3 times. Helen wanted her gone way before the move needed to be made. Because they were all in an alliance together, if Helen could turn traitor (yes Helen has been a traitor) on Amanda, why wouldn't Andy think she could do the same thing to him. As Andy has said, so far Amanda has not done anything to hurt his game.
Why Helen thinks people owe her more than they owe their other alliance members, I have no idea. Why she thinks she can get away with lies when she is called out, (like the stunt she tried to pull yesterday with Spencer) is unbelievable to me. And why she thinks she can admit that she controls and manipulates everyone but then say that other people need to be taken out because they are too powerful-well Helen just can't have it both ways. She can't be the lion and the lamb. Helen blew up her own game. She can call Andy a rat. She can say that Spencer has no game and that McCrae is whipped. She can call Amanda a bully. But she can't blame anyone at this point. She did it to herself.
And I want to say kudos to Amanda and Spencer for the way they handled Helen earlier yesterday. Amanda is the only one who was honest. She did not make it personal. She kept it strictly on a game level. Helen is the one who has started making it personal. And Spencer did a great job of not being threatened, intimidated or 'manipulated' by Helen.
Why would Helen even consider Mccrae asan option? He is going to choose you over the woman he is sleeping with?
The smart play would be to get McCrae out and let Amanda's game come crashing down!
I just dropped a long reply in the Overnight.
Dammit ... last one in .... again. :)
Aaryn, I really don't care for, but if she would actually go along with Helen to flip the house and back door either Mccrae or Amanda she would deserve to win BB. This season should have been called the Mccrae and Amanda show, no one wants to go against them. Andy is just sickening and he really thinks he playing a great game.
RE last post response... Thanks Caro... I wanna write a book,but, my un medicated ADD keeps me to scattered lol...
I Don't care for Helen's evilness in the DR when voting, I care less for Amanda's ego and even less for the thought of the rumors about it being rigged for Amanda to win seeming true...
i hope Helen can make them start looking at the numbers and get rid of Amanda, then Helen can go next week lol
Happy dishing u guys!!!
Gooood morning! :)
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getting rid of helen is a gigantic move for aaryn, and it is the best move for her. people will want to break up mccrae and amanda next, maybe during a double eviction.
sorry but to me helen is the traitor, look at ther goodbye speech to jessie, she admitted she lied and used jessie, chicago...
I think that Aaryn realizes that she is being used by both sides and, with all her ability, is still playing scared. Today could come down to who gets in her ear last.
Andy is in Amanda's camp and has been for weeks. It's not a pair that everyone else is up against it is a trio. Everyone else is disposable.
If Aaryn would put up Amanda, I think Spenser would come around and vote her out.
I still think Helen will be the one going home. No matter who Aaryn puts on the block Spencer, Amanda, Andy and Mccrae will always have the votes to get rid of Helen. So I guess the real question is, is Aaryn willing to have people she is SUPPOSED to be in an alliance PO'd at her because she didn't do what they all agreed upon?
With all that talk Elissa did in the DR about math and proportions and ratios, I guess it makes sense that she thinks with five people voting there could be a 3/2 tie vote.
Repost ... Thanks Caro. :)
Morning Dishers and the lovely Carolyn! :)
This house! These people !!! lol ...
I think Helen's "game" has finally caught up to her. We shall see, especially because Amanda's aggressiveness and paranoia seem to continually get her own game in hot water.
Shammy odds on winning the returning HG comp. (please don't be a vote by America or the HG's).
Judd 40%
Jessie 30%
Helen 29.999%
Candice 0.001% (if she is awake at the time)
Currently, I'd rank Amanda as having the best "scheme" game, but would also rank her lowest in the "comp" games.
Andy is my #2 in scheme, but #1 in social. He needs to ramp up his comp game as well, but still would rank ahead of Amanda, Spencer and GM in that regard.
McCrae needs to play for himself more, and it seems like he is to some extent.
Aaryn, as much as her past comments have made horrific impressions on most of us, is still the #1 competition player in this house. By a wide margin.
Usually I have a clear cut "homer" favorite right now. Judd was (and could be again) that player. Jessie was my eye candy. :) I would be fine with either of them coming back into the house.
How would Aaryn backdoor Mccrae? Spencer and Andy wouldn't do it, im pretty sure Amanda wouldnt either. Aaryn is being truthful to Helen, her best shot is vs Spencer... actually, her best shot is the jury comp thursday
Amanda knows that Aaryn is trying to get her out, Aaryn knows she knows. Why is she still afraid to put Amanda up? I would roll the dice at this point and hope I could get the votes.
Wonder when Helen is going to start her fake crying? Andy better watch out...he might wash out in the flood.
"**can you tell I watched Dexter last night?"
... still can't watch Dexter here;/
Spencer and Aaryn should mess with Helen's head. Have Aaryn tell Helen that Spencer will not vote out Amanda, but he would vote out Andy and the GM will go along with the plan. See just how far Helen is willing to go to save herself and prove that nobody is safe with her around.
I hate that Amanda could not keep her mouth/ego in check for three days to savor the flavor of a true Helen blindside. I also don't understand why more HG's don't tell Helen they are going to vote how the house wants them to, or that it's not them, but they can't go against what the house wants. She'd have to flip since up to now she's used the "house" as her own alter-ego.
Nothing like trying to clean my computer screen and realizing, if the dirty spot keeps moving then it's not my computer, it's the BB mirror.
The day Helen went on the block she threatened that if she thought people were voting her out she was going to call people out with all the secrets of the Knock Outs. I have 2 questions.
1-How does she think that would help her? Anyone who may have been thinking about keeping her will now have a reason to get rid of her since the majority of vote holders are members of the Knock Outs. Also, most of the 'secrets' are public knowledge at this point.
2-How does that make her any better than Jessie? Last week when Jessie tried to expose secrets to save her own game she came off as looking bitter and desperate. Helen actually said that Jessie was immature, lacked any class and did not deserve to have a job.
Elissa really is allergic to slop, just ask her. She is kinda entertaining though. If she wasnt so much better than me I might have been rooting for her
Gadzooks! Think it's safe to go tinkle now?
Hello friends!!
Gonna be a crazy week.. cant wait to see when, how and who comes back! I'd like it to be Judd.. Think that would be the most interesting to watch.
Re. Dexter.... won't spoil it but that was a great episode last night. Haven't been that impressed this season, but am enjoying trying to figure out how they'll end the series. Didn't see the end coming last night. My mouth was agape!!
Fav part of TOR humor was "..organically" when I read it I was like oh boy GM would not know what that meant. and two lines later Carolyn read my mind LOL
Fav humor part of show last night was: "it's like she's in another country.."(paraphrasing) GM re Helen's mom tooooo funny she is. (when she's not being inappropriate)!!
Judy in NJ
SF Brian
The reason Amanda told Helen she was voting her out is because Helen confronted her and, hard to believe but, Amanda told the truth.
I love a good blindside for my own entertainment. However, with all of the house votes and blindsides this year, I respected Amanda for being honest. I actually thought she handled that confrontation very well and it was one of the few times there wasn't ego, it was just a game move.
Carolyn
I saw your tweet-'A Tale of Two Sisters'.
Did you know that the American horror movie The Uninvited was a remake of a Korean horror movie called A Tale Of Two Sisters? It was really good. Very creepy.
I didn't.. I don't watch horror movies very often.
I'm too little. ;-)
Hi Everyone!! :0)
Thanks so much for being here and keeping me company.
I'm gonna wait til the feeds actually come back before I hit publish on the spoiler post..
And the new banner.. and the new quickie poll... and.. and..
@Grendon...I did the same damn thing! lol. I tried like crazy to clean my computer screen before I realized, duh, it was the mirror.
Good afternoon Carolyn and BBDishers!!
If Helen goes this week... GREAT.
If Amanda goes this week... GREAT.
Whoever doesn't can leave next week, or better yet Aaryn since she can't play for HOH.
I hope Judd comes back in with a vengeance. I agree with another commenter (I forgot who) from TOR (I think), that Judd comes back and works with McCrae, Spencer and Andy. Then they can fight it out. Judd for the winn of course.
I hope everyone is having a wonderful day!
BTW, is anyone with an android/smartphone having problems viwing the feeds. All of a sudden, I'm now getting an error message stating:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access/error/on this server.
Aww man... Where was the house meeting?
Ok, like I expected, Helen has started the fake tears! Who the hell is Aaryn aligned with? I don't think even she knows.
Helen wants the 'Good People' to win. This week the good people are different from the good people from last week and the week before and the week before, etc.
Wonder what makes the others not good people? That they don't want Helen to win?????
I think I'm going to vomit listening to Aaryn telling Helen how she is the most wonderful person this world has ever created!
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