BB15 Week 8: PoV Players and Beyond..
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Saturday Morning before PoV Player Picking, The Overnight Report.
Playing for the Power of Veto:
- Aaryn - HoH
- Helen - Nom
- Elissa - Nom
- Andy - Chosen
- Ginamarie - Chosen
- Spencer - Chosen
Hosting the Power of Veto: Amanda
I'll be filling in the blanks as the info becomes known.. Please refresh this post periodically..
Cockpit
Cam 3
11am
Andy: I might take a luxury.. Don't think I'm an asshole if I do..
Helen: I wont. I think Amanda might be lined up with Aaryn.. which scares me..
Elissa enters.
Helen: I think it's gonna be time measurement.. or Big Brother terms..
Andy: I feel like I'd be good at that. I'm gonna go upstairs and see what people are talking about.
Helen: Ok..
HoH
Cam 1
Andy: No matter what, I don't wanna win..
Amanda: But don't drop out unless you can tell they're behind a lot..
Andy: Helen's gonna be pissed if I take a luxury.
Aaryn: I bet she was pissed Elissa picked you. Doesn't she know you would take Helen off the block?
Amanda: Elissa knows I would keep it the same.. to protect McCrae.
Andy: I really didn't think I would be picked to play.
Amanda: Just try hard for it.. If you used the Veto, then Aaryn would be targeting you, and you have no targets right now..
Aaryn: And I can't play next week..
Amanda: Cuz if you decide to just throw it..
Andy: I know I know I know I know..
Aaryn: Andy's stressed.
Amanda: I hope it happens sometime soon.
Andy: They're still building outside. Which makes me think it's not the drop out or the __ , because neither is a big build. Did you tell GM to fight for it?
Aaryn: She knows.. She hates Spencer, but she knows. I knew she was gonna pick you.
Andy: Dammit..
Amanda: I know Spencer is gonna take all the punishments.. If it was between me and him,
Aaryn: My goal is to win 10 competitions this season.
Amanda: My goal is to win 1. Is that annoying that I would take a luxury?
Aaryn: No one will know.
Amanda: People figure it out.. Is hosting fun?
Aaryn: It's fun. You'll be like Amanda Bond.. I hope your costume is cute.
Aaryn gets called to the DR.. Amanda and Andy continue talking.. Andy is nervous about it, but he agrees that Aaryn's idea is a good one.
Andy: Helen's gonna be f'in pissssed. I'll have the mom-squad after me.
Amanda: You can throw a vote to Helen.. THen you'll have Helen's vote.
Aaryn: And Elissa will be pissed.
Andy: Either way I'm f'd.
Amanda: It's not that horrible to have 1 jury member who's against you.
Aaryn: This is Big Brother, not Big Andy.. We're not gonna stack the jury house with people who love you.. and you can also say, well, Helen, you always say "we should vote with the house."
Amanda: By the same token, people trust you, so when they go home, and they learn you had a part in in, they're gonna be f'in pisssssed.
11:15am
Andy: I'm so sorry to hear about Clownie's suicide attempt..
Aaryn: Andy, I was like, "aaaaah!!!!!"
Aaryn: Ginamarie was like, "These F*ckas! These Mothaf*ckas! Who Did it? They should go home."
Andy/Amanda: hahaha
Aaryn: Can you wax my eyebrow?
Amanda: Are you sure? You could get a reaction. I think you should just plauck em.
Spencer enters.
Spencer: Alright, my shorts are ripped. It's not because I'm a fat ass. It's because they got caught on something.
Amanda: Why don't you ask for a needle and thread?
Spencer: I should. I can sew like a mf'er.
Talk turns to have not foods this week..
Amanda: I'm gonna be so weak this week, cuz I'm not gonna be able to eat anything.
Andy: So you'll be at your usual capacity for the HoH comp?
Amanda: No, I'll just be dead.
Andy: She's dead, but she gets to like Bernie HoH all week, with McCrae controlling her arms?
Amanda: I want pasta.. Those pasta noodles you made were so amazing. If you make that this week, I'll kill you.
Aaryn: I wont make it til Have Not Happy Hour.
Talk turns to GM...
Aaryn: She legitimately told me her MOM would have wanted her to punch Candice in the face and get ejected from the game.
Amanda: I have a feel they are way more Staten Island than GM.. like she's the quiet one.
11:25am
Cam 1
HoH
Spencer: Did anyone notice Helen's face when she picked my chip?
Amanda: Notice?? I was holding back laughter.
Aaryn: Spencer's like Condescending Wonka.
Spencer: What is the punishment/luxury plan now?
Amanda: you need to take all the punishments.
Spencer: Is GM going for punishments?
Amanda: Yeah..
Spencer: You know that she's gonna max it out.
Andy: Helen?
Spencer: Yeah.
They doubt it'll be a luxury based comp though.. Too much building..
Talk turns to the possibility of a Pandora's Box.. and what ifs..
Amanda: I feel like if Aaryn gets a Pandora's Box, it's gonna be something negative.. cuz she wins everything.
11:30
Spencer: Elissa was in the cockpit and I say hey, good luck, and she was like..
Andy: The Mom Squad hates you so much, Spencer.
Spencer: I know.
11:35
Aaryn, Andy, Spencer, Amanda are up in HoH
Helen and Elissa are in the Cockpit..
11:49am
Spencer: I can just hear Helen in the Diary Room.. "of all the chips to pick."
Aaryn: I can hear them in the Diary Room, "We should've kept Kaitlin! We should've kept Kaitlin!"
Aaryn: Just for the record, we kept our word, we didn't nominate Helen or Elissa for 3 weeks, Gems and I..
12:08pm
Camera 3 and 4
Kitchen
Amanda and Elissa
We join this conversation in progress...
Amanda: Elissa, I'm confiding in you. I'm trusting you. I'm telling you that I want you to stay over Helen. If you two stay on the block, I don't want that to come out. I will do everything in my power to keep you here, but I need your loyalty now.
Elissa: Obviously, you and McCrae have the best social game.
Amanda: I think Andy has the best social game.
Elissa: No way.
Amanda: I'm telling you now.. Me and you together? We can make it all the way to the end.
Elissa: They're just so..
Amanda: I'm telling you. One of you 2 will be going home this week, and you have a way better chance of staying. You have to trust me. I wouldn't be telling you that if I didn't trust you.
Elissa: mm
Amanda: I'm telling you, that's just the way it's gonna be. She's gonna fight her ass off for the veto and campaign against you. If she's up on the block, you'll stay. I'll make damn sure of it. Just f'in fight you ass off and make sure she doesn't win it. If you think she's not aware that it's one of you two going home.. After she cried and everything about you, I went back to every person up there and made sure they understood we can't feel sorry for her.. I made sure you didn't go up against Spencer.
Amanda: Even if Aaryn wind the Veto, you'll be safe.
Elissa: Oh my gosh.
Amanda: Spencer confides in McCrae.. I know that at one point, you and Helen sat down with Spencer and said you'd need his help getting me out.
Elissa: I never sat down with Spencer.
Amanda: She did tell you that though. Admit to that. I'm confiding a lot to you.
Elissa: I said I wanted Spencer out.
Amanda: I have to go with my gut.. I keep you here.. You keep me here.. and that's what I'm saying.. Why would Jessie keep going to Helen, unless Helen made it look like she was down? Is now the time, is now the time? Why? Because Helen didn't trust me.
Amanda: Oh, and this entire time, she's been saying to me that you're disposable when necessary.. I guess she's made a final 2 with you.. Oh, and she made a final 3 with me and Aaryn.. She called it the 3PM package.. And, by the way, people tried to turn me against you, saying that you were always the MVP.
Elissa: I can tell what my connection is with people, and what connection is to be displayed.
Amanda: I've never given you a reason to not trust me. Whenever anyone's tried to turn on you or go against you, we were always here for you.
Elissa: 3PM package.. Did they ever ask you about it?
Amanda: NO, because it was never real. The only alliance I've ever been loyal to was the knockouts, and when Judd was disloyal to it, he was knocked out. I'm always loyal to people who are loyal to me. It's the only way I've lasted in this game, because I don't win shit.
Elissa: Me too.
Amanda: I'm confiding in you because I want you to stay..
12:23pm - Spencer comes into the kitchen.. The noise from outside can be heard..
Elissa: They're having fun out there.
Spencer: They are!
12:24pm
Elissa: Mandaaaa.. I can't wait to celebrate after this is over..
**oh, she's Manda now? mm hmm.
Talk turns to home schooling, which Elissa would love to do.
12:30pm
Elissa declares she's trying out for Survivor next year. Then..
Elissa: Can you imagine how depressing this house would be without me? I feel like I need like 5 of me.
12:34pm
Cam 3 and 4
Elissa: I'm gonna go read.. do yoga..
Amanda: ok
Elissa: I probably shouldn't do yoga. I feel like it calms me down. I should probably stay amped until..
**Cue the Trivia! No? Darn.
Elissa: The wrapped banana with the condom is still there.
Amanda: i'll throw it out.
Elissa: Condoms are so disgusting.
BB: Elissa, please go to the Diary Room.
Andy emerges.. He and Elissa cross paths..
Andy: I was just talking major shit about you.
Elissa: Woohoo!
12:37pm
Cam 3 and 4
Kitchen
Amanda and Andy
Amanda: I just had a long conversation with Elissa.. I told her, I want you to stay, so f*ckin fight for that Veto. May not be the smartest move on my part, but we'll see.
Andy: I feel like, if she stays, you and I will be the only people she trusts.
Amanda: She asked, will Andy use the Veto on Helen? I said no, he'll have too many people coming after him.
Amanda: She's not gonna say anything to Helen. Don't worry. I said, If I find out that you're telling her, then I can't back you up anymore.
Andy: Good.
12:42pm
Helen comes into the kitchen. Amanda invites her to try the slop cookies she just made. Not a gold star winning batch yet..
Andy joins them..
Helen: Sounds like they stopped building.
Andy: Oh yeah.. Let's check.
They listen at the wall. Not done yet.
BB: Andy, shut it down.
Andy: Why didn't Helen get one? She was doing it too.
BB: Helen, Shut it down.
Andy: Thank you. That's all I wanted.
12:44pm Andy and Amanda are now alone in the kitchen.. She asks if he needs to talk. He says he's fine. They chat about McCrae's excessive sleeping.. Andy wonders if he's like that outside of the house. If he is, that wont work for Amanda.. "The early bird gets the listing."
Talk turns to Andy's daily routine.. which includes a horrid commute. Helen joins them and says she'll drive him into the city. Elissa joins as well..
12:48pm
BB: Helen, please come to the Diary Room..
And off she goes.. Elissa too. After a couple minutes, both Andy and Elissa return.. Amanda continues making Have Not candy..
Andy: Holy cow! We're gonna be on our 9th eviction on Thursday.
Amanda: Crazy.
**but you'll be getting one HG back too...
1:03pm
Kitchen
Helen, Andy, Amanda
Andy asks about Amanda's ex that she was with before McCrae, and she voices her concerns about what's going on outside the house with him and with her parents.. She knows he was not the guy for her. Helen wonders what's being portrayed about her, and what's getting twisted.
**i'm gonna hop up to HoH and see what's going on up there..
1:09pm
HoH
Cam 1
Spencer and Aaryn
Talking about the food comp yesterday..
Aaryn: That was so much fun. Your family's gonna be so proud of you.
They rehash the Keeping up with the Joneses comp that Kaitlin killed..
The quad flips to the kitchen.
** I tried.
Helen: I've gotta trust that my husband's got in under control.
1:25pm **I'm taking a little break.. BB Brain melt... Please mind the critters!
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Cockpit
Cam 3
11am
Andy: I might take a luxury.. Don't think I'm an asshole if I do..
Helen: I wont. I think Amanda might be lined up with Aaryn.. which scares me..
Elissa enters.
Helen: I think it's gonna be time measurement.. or Big Brother terms..
Andy: I feel like I'd be good at that. I'm gonna go upstairs and see what people are talking about.
Helen: Ok..
HoH
Cam 1
Andy: No matter what, I don't wanna win..
Amanda: But don't drop out unless you can tell they're behind a lot..
Andy: Helen's gonna be pissed if I take a luxury.
Aaryn: I bet she was pissed Elissa picked you. Doesn't she know you would take Helen off the block?
Amanda: Elissa knows I would keep it the same.. to protect McCrae.
Andy: I really didn't think I would be picked to play.
Amanda: Just try hard for it.. If you used the Veto, then Aaryn would be targeting you, and you have no targets right now..
Aaryn: And I can't play next week..
Amanda: Cuz if you decide to just throw it..
Andy: I know I know I know I know..
Aaryn: Andy's stressed.
Amanda: I hope it happens sometime soon.
Andy: They're still building outside. Which makes me think it's not the drop out or the __ , because neither is a big build. Did you tell GM to fight for it?
Aaryn: She knows.. She hates Spencer, but she knows. I knew she was gonna pick you.
Andy: Dammit..
Amanda: I know Spencer is gonna take all the punishments.. If it was between me and him,
Aaryn: My goal is to win 10 competitions this season.
Amanda: My goal is to win 1. Is that annoying that I would take a luxury?
Aaryn: No one will know.
Amanda: People figure it out.. Is hosting fun?
Aaryn: It's fun. You'll be like Amanda Bond.. I hope your costume is cute.
Aaryn gets called to the DR.. Amanda and Andy continue talking.. Andy is nervous about it, but he agrees that Aaryn's idea is a good one.
Andy: Helen's gonna be f'in pissssed. I'll have the mom-squad after me.
Amanda: You can throw a vote to Helen.. THen you'll have Helen's vote.
Aaryn: And Elissa will be pissed.
Andy: Either way I'm f'd.
Amanda: It's not that horrible to have 1 jury member who's against you.
Aaryn: This is Big Brother, not Big Andy.. We're not gonna stack the jury house with people who love you.. and you can also say, well, Helen, you always say "we should vote with the house."
Amanda: By the same token, people trust you, so when they go home, and they learn you had a part in in, they're gonna be f'in pisssssed.
11:15am
Andy: I'm so sorry to hear about Clownie's suicide attempt..
Aaryn: Andy, I was like, "aaaaah!!!!!"
Aaryn: Ginamarie was like, "These F*ckas! These Mothaf*ckas! Who Did it? They should go home."
Andy/Amanda: hahaha
Aaryn: Can you wax my eyebrow?
Amanda: Are you sure? You could get a reaction. I think you should just plauck em.
Spencer enters.
Spencer: Alright, my shorts are ripped. It's not because I'm a fat ass. It's because they got caught on something.
Amanda: Why don't you ask for a needle and thread?
Spencer: I should. I can sew like a mf'er.
Talk turns to have not foods this week..
Amanda: I'm gonna be so weak this week, cuz I'm not gonna be able to eat anything.
Andy: So you'll be at your usual capacity for the HoH comp?
Amanda: No, I'll just be dead.
Andy: She's dead, but she gets to like Bernie HoH all week, with McCrae controlling her arms?
Amanda: I want pasta.. Those pasta noodles you made were so amazing. If you make that this week, I'll kill you.
Aaryn: I wont make it til Have Not Happy Hour.
Talk turns to GM...
Aaryn: She legitimately told me her MOM would have wanted her to punch Candice in the face and get ejected from the game.
Amanda: I have a feel they are way more Staten Island than GM.. like she's the quiet one.
11:25am
Cam 1
HoH
Spencer: Did anyone notice Helen's face when she picked my chip?
Amanda: Notice?? I was holding back laughter.
Aaryn: Spencer's like Condescending Wonka.
Spencer: What is the punishment/luxury plan now?
Amanda: you need to take all the punishments.
Spencer: Is GM going for punishments?
Amanda: Yeah..
Spencer: You know that she's gonna max it out.
Andy: Helen?
Spencer: Yeah.
They doubt it'll be a luxury based comp though.. Too much building..
Talk turns to the possibility of a Pandora's Box.. and what ifs..
Amanda: I feel like if Aaryn gets a Pandora's Box, it's gonna be something negative.. cuz she wins everything.
11:30
Spencer: Elissa was in the cockpit and I say hey, good luck, and she was like..
Andy: The Mom Squad hates you so much, Spencer.
Spencer: I know.
11:35
Aaryn, Andy, Spencer, Amanda are up in HoH
Helen and Elissa are in the Cockpit..
11:49am
Spencer: I can just hear Helen in the Diary Room.. "of all the chips to pick."
Aaryn: I can hear them in the Diary Room, "We should've kept Kaitlin! We should've kept Kaitlin!"
Aaryn: Just for the record, we kept our word, we didn't nominate Helen or Elissa for 3 weeks, Gems and I..
12:08pm
Camera 3 and 4
Kitchen
Amanda and Elissa
We join this conversation in progress...
Amanda: Elissa, I'm confiding in you. I'm trusting you. I'm telling you that I want you to stay over Helen. If you two stay on the block, I don't want that to come out. I will do everything in my power to keep you here, but I need your loyalty now.
Elissa: Obviously, you and McCrae have the best social game.
Amanda: I think Andy has the best social game.
Elissa: No way.
Amanda: I'm telling you now.. Me and you together? We can make it all the way to the end.
Elissa: They're just so..
Amanda: I'm telling you. One of you 2 will be going home this week, and you have a way better chance of staying. You have to trust me. I wouldn't be telling you that if I didn't trust you.
Elissa: mm
Amanda: I'm telling you, that's just the way it's gonna be. She's gonna fight her ass off for the veto and campaign against you. If she's up on the block, you'll stay. I'll make damn sure of it. Just f'in fight you ass off and make sure she doesn't win it. If you think she's not aware that it's one of you two going home.. After she cried and everything about you, I went back to every person up there and made sure they understood we can't feel sorry for her.. I made sure you didn't go up against Spencer.
Elissa: Oh my gosh.
Amanda: Spencer confides in McCrae.. I know that at one point, you and Helen sat down with Spencer and said you'd need his help getting me out.
Elissa: I never sat down with Spencer.
Amanda: She did tell you that though. Admit to that. I'm confiding a lot to you.
Elissa: I said I wanted Spencer out.
Amanda: I have to go with my gut.. I keep you here.. You keep me here.. and that's what I'm saying.. Why would Jessie keep going to Helen, unless Helen made it look like she was down? Is now the time, is now the time? Why? Because Helen didn't trust me.
Amanda: Oh, and this entire time, she's been saying to me that you're disposable when necessary.. I guess she's made a final 2 with you.. Oh, and she made a final 3 with me and Aaryn.. She called it the 3PM package.. And, by the way, people tried to turn me against you, saying that you were always the MVP.
Elissa: I can tell what my connection is with people, and what connection is to be displayed.
Amanda: I've never given you a reason to not trust me. Whenever anyone's tried to turn on you or go against you, we were always here for you.
Elissa: 3PM package.. Did they ever ask you about it?
Amanda: NO, because it was never real. The only alliance I've ever been loyal to was the knockouts, and when Judd was disloyal to it, he was knocked out. I'm always loyal to people who are loyal to me. It's the only way I've lasted in this game, because I don't win shit.
Elissa: Me too.
Amanda: I'm confiding in you because I want you to stay..
12:23pm - Spencer comes into the kitchen.. The noise from outside can be heard..
Elissa: They're having fun out there.
Spencer: They are!
12:24pm
Elissa: Mandaaaa.. I can't wait to celebrate after this is over..
**oh, she's Manda now? mm hmm.
Talk turns to home schooling, which Elissa would love to do.
12:30pm
Elissa declares she's trying out for Survivor next year. Then..
Elissa: Can you imagine how depressing this house would be without me? I feel like I need like 5 of me.
12:34pm
Cam 3 and 4
Elissa: I'm gonna go read.. do yoga..
Amanda: ok
Elissa: I probably shouldn't do yoga. I feel like it calms me down. I should probably stay amped until..
**Cue the Trivia! No? Darn.
Elissa: The wrapped banana with the condom is still there.
Amanda: i'll throw it out.
Elissa: Condoms are so disgusting.
BB: Elissa, please go to the Diary Room.
Andy emerges.. He and Elissa cross paths..
Andy: I was just talking major shit about you.
Elissa: Woohoo!
12:37pm
Cam 3 and 4
Kitchen
Amanda and Andy
Amanda: I just had a long conversation with Elissa.. I told her, I want you to stay, so f*ckin fight for that Veto. May not be the smartest move on my part, but we'll see.
Andy: I feel like, if she stays, you and I will be the only people she trusts.
Amanda: She asked, will Andy use the Veto on Helen? I said no, he'll have too many people coming after him.
Amanda: She's not gonna say anything to Helen. Don't worry. I said, If I find out that you're telling her, then I can't back you up anymore.
Andy: Good.
12:42pm
Helen comes into the kitchen. Amanda invites her to try the slop cookies she just made. Not a gold star winning batch yet..
Andy joins them..
Helen: Sounds like they stopped building.
Andy: Oh yeah.. Let's check.
They listen at the wall. Not done yet.
BB: Andy, shut it down.
Andy: Why didn't Helen get one? She was doing it too.
BB: Helen, Shut it down.
Andy: Thank you. That's all I wanted.
12:44pm Andy and Amanda are now alone in the kitchen.. She asks if he needs to talk. He says he's fine. They chat about McCrae's excessive sleeping.. Andy wonders if he's like that outside of the house. If he is, that wont work for Amanda.. "The early bird gets the listing."
Talk turns to Andy's daily routine.. which includes a horrid commute. Helen joins them and says she'll drive him into the city. Elissa joins as well..
12:48pm
BB: Helen, please come to the Diary Room..
And off she goes.. Elissa too. After a couple minutes, both Andy and Elissa return.. Amanda continues making Have Not candy..
Andy: Holy cow! We're gonna be on our 9th eviction on Thursday.
Amanda: Crazy.
**but you'll be getting one HG back too...
1:03pm
Kitchen
Helen, Andy, Amanda
Andy asks about Amanda's ex that she was with before McCrae, and she voices her concerns about what's going on outside the house with him and with her parents.. She knows he was not the guy for her. Helen wonders what's being portrayed about her, and what's getting twisted.
**i'm gonna hop up to HoH and see what's going on up there..
1:09pm
HoH
Cam 1
Spencer and Aaryn
Talking about the food comp yesterday..
Aaryn: That was so much fun. Your family's gonna be so proud of you.
They rehash the Keeping up with the Joneses comp that Kaitlin killed..
The quad flips to the kitchen.
** I tried.
Helen: I've gotta trust that my husband's got in under control.
1:25pm **I'm taking a little break.. BB Brain melt... Please mind the critters!
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posted by CarolynBBDish @ 10:49 AM
62 Comments:
Carolyn
I meant to say earlier-Do what you need to do today. No guilt.
Regarding a tweet I saw wondering why Aaryn and Andy would choose to be loyal to Amanda and McCrae over Helen and Elissa.
Aaryn and Amanda have always had a relationship somewhat like sisters. Even when they were fighting, Amanda was always honest with her. I think Aaryn does trust Helen and may have even chose her over McCranda, but she does not like Elissa and knows Elissa hates her.
Andy knows that when the original 7 person alliance were working together to get to jury (Amanda, McCrae, Helen, Elissa, Andy, Judd and Jessie) Helen was already throwing out the possibility of back dooring Amanda and Elissa way before it was a move that had to be made.
Andy and Aaryn also saw how easy it was for Helen to flip the house against Judd and how easy it was for her to turn on Jessie.
Now if we think ahead to final 2, I know a lot of people think Amanda is running the house, but most of the HGs know that Helen is running the house. That gives her a few notches for playing a good game. A lot of fans are sick of Helen, but in the house she is still considered likeable.
Going against Amanda or McCrae probably seems like a better choice. McCrae hasn't won anything since the first week. Even though he is a fairly strategic player, the other HG's don't see that because his game is overshadowed by Amanda. Amanda has won nothing and has lost all likability due to the fights and some of the nasty comments she has made.
I know a showmance seems stronger than a mom alliance, but once it is down to the final 3 it really is about the comp. Whoever wins that chooses who sits in the chair next to them. I think it's reasonable for anyone to think their chance to win against McCranda is as good or better than their chance to win against Helissa.
Well put. I have always thought Helen is the mastermind. Had she won HOH, it would be Amanda and Mccrae on the block.
Excellent explanation, Grendon.
The only game being played in the bb house is Amanda's game. They all think they are playing for themselves but they are just pieces Amanda is moving around the chess board. The game won't really start until she is evicted.
brb - :)
I agree plasticgoat Amanda has got to go, she is so unworthy
Movie Talk and
Karlys
Thank you.
plasticgoat
I'm trying to look at things from the perspective of the HG's who don't have all the information that we have. As for the Helen vs. Amanda, I think they both try to run the house. It actually didn't matter for a while because they both had the same goals. As for being able to accomplish those goals, I guess it's all opinion as to which one had more bark and which had more bite. However, Amanda was on the block twice and had no power and Helen made moves to blindside her both weeks and got shut down so actually I think Andy has been running things a lot more than he has been given credit for.
And once again I am caught up. Come on BB, Carolyn has things to do.
Now, again I will go back and pick up a few things that made me laugh from previous blogs today. This one nearly made me spit water on the monitor...
Amanda: My family's gonna think I'm a homeless person. I go into the DR without makeup every day. I'm like, I sound like I just deepthroated a donkey and you want me to do a DR?
I wonder just how many times she has done that. I know she lives in FL but makes me wonder if she spends much time in Tijuana.
Helen: I also eat out a lot.. I love to eat out.
Elissa: Really? My husband does too. He eats out all the time.
Helen: Me too.
Is this code for oral sex? I know they talked about dental dams either before or after. One must wonder how their minds go from subject to subject.
Elissa: We have no other options.
Helen: omg.. I can't believe we have no other options to eat.. Doesn't America know this is what we actually eat? Like, this is not a joke.
Elissa: I wonder what the options were, that they gave us such a bad one.
Helen: They're gonna always pick the worst.
Elissa: I don't know.. they picked really good ones for the 2 weeks we weren't Have Nots. I cold've lived on Macaroni and Mango.. or Avocado and ___. That was a great option.
That's right Elissa, good ones have been picked but that was when the show was more entertaining (if it ever was this season). Now we want people to suffer because they are going to bitch and moan about something. Making that something the food saves a fellow houseguest (former or current) from being the subject of wrath. I'm personally proud I voted for this choice. And that the ones on slop are the ones I hoped would be. If Spencer had won HoH this week I would be at 100% with my wishes for this week.
:o)
GaYToR
@Grendon....please don't go away ever. I would miss you like crazy! I never leave BBDish for those other sites because of that very reason you discussed as well as I love all the people at this site. I absolutely adore Carolyn and all the rest of bloggers. Carolyn regulates this site so well that everyone feels free to express their feelings without having to worry about being harassed by the other bloggers.
I think of things all the time that I want to say but don't even have to because others (usually Grendon) take the words out of my mouth and express it so much better than I ever could.
I will never leave this wonderful site.
Elaine, I have to agree about Jessie's natural look being the best. I'll even admit that when Amanda does her DR's without makeup, I find her somewhat more attractive but I can't judge her beauty fairly because her mental is so ugly.
:o)
GaYToR
I really want Elissa to leave this week! Julie Chen stated that the 3 jurors plus whoever is evicted this week will compete to come back into the house. I really want Judd to come back in. Helen or Spencer would be a bigger competition to defeat than Elissa. Elissa increases Judd's chance of coming back into the house.
With all the info Aaryn is sharing with Andy upstairs and all the info Amanda is sharing with Elissa downstairs-wowza!
Andy has a hard time hiding his emotions and Elissa has a hard time keeping her mouth shut. If noms stay the same, I don't think Helen is going to be in the dark for long about being the intended target.
Thank you Carolyn ! for posting my 1st record long posting haha,On the OR I have to say why? in the wee hours of the morning there convos digress to verbal debauchery...Game wise I don't think Helen is the mastermind in BB, as she just never had enough votes to support her plans, and as we know the majority votes reflect who is currently in a power position. And by the predictable week by week Nom & Evics it seems as the the power goes to Andy,Mcranda..Please carolyn wave your magic BBdish wand and shake this BB hs up!!!
Grendon
I don't quite understand Amanda's motive with Elissa. She has to know that is going to get back to Helen within seconds of the conversation ending.
My prediction is Helen wind PoV, Spencer goes up and Elissa is headed to jury.
Shi Shi
Thank you. I'm not going anywhere.
If you compare Amanda's conversation with Elissa today to Amanda's conversation with Helen last night, you will see that tell that I was talking about. Today, she's assertive. "don't do this, this is how things are". With Helen, everything was "Yeah, yeah blah, blah, blah"
Jovee,
I think Spenc wins POV, leave noms as is....Helen will hit the road...Production..I think would like to see Judd back due to his popularity...so....he may be back...
Matt U
Agree!
I have no idea what Amanda was thinking. I thought the plan was to keep Helen in the dark and blindside her. If Amanda was 'testing' Elissa to see if she would run back to Helen with the info, I think doing it before the POV was bad timing on her part. If she was trying to light a fire under Elissa's arse to fight for the POV, I don't think it will work. Elissa just doesn't seem to understand the game or have that competitive edge that Rachel had.
Who will Judd work with if he comes back. They all voted him out. I think Aaryn will be very nervous to see him. Andy and Amanda really wanted him out also. Guess it will be interesting who can lie the best and bs him the best.
I think whatever we want doesn't really matter as I am still convinced that production knows exactly what THEY want. I think Elissa will win POV and then HOH this week!
I'm sitting here listening to the delusional conversation between Aaryn and Spencer. He thinks he is the most popular well loved conductor in the USA and she thinks her agency is probably bursting at the seams with job proposals for her. Aaryn wants to be a tv host but she doesn't have the voice, in my opinion.
Down in the kitchen Amanda is having a mini slop breakdown about the man she left behind!
Oh the surprise for the houseguests!!!!!
RockyRose I completely agree that Judd should be the one to come back. I think he would be hell on wheels coming back with a vengeance for what Helen and Amanda did to him. No one likes to be falsely accused and I want Amanda to eat her words, whatever they were, as she said she would in the DR after Judd was evicted, if he was not MVP.
As for Elissa helping Judd to make his way in easier, I agree but...
Can you imagine the aftermath toward CBS and AGP if Elissa did actually finally win a competition and that would be the one? We always have conspiracy theorists and I am a proud Platinum Card carrying member of that club. The internet would explode. I would be Jean Valjean leading the revolution to the CBS Studios.
Shi Shi and Grendon neither of you can ever leave the Dish. I wouldn't hear of it and I bet Carolyn has ways to track you both down and shackle you if necessary. She knows there are shackles, among other toys, in my private Dish basement.
I don't think any of us will ever go anywhere until Carolyn kicks us all out and locks the Dish Chicks door. I've told Carolyn before, I may not really like a season but that would never keep me out of the comments. It's my job to keep her on her toes and read between the lines of every comment I make to double check for breaking rules. It doesn't pay a penny but it sure is fun.
:o)
GaYToR
FL Girl
Assuming that Helen leaves, we know Judd will NOT work with Elissa. He did not seem to blame Aaryn so he could try to do something with her and maybe GM or Spencer. I think he would like to get back into Goof Troop. As long as Amanda is around that will probably never work but I wouldn't be surprised if Judd and McCrae made a final 2 and tried to work together on the sly. Judd's eviction did not sit well with McCrae.
Shi Shi
Amanda was giving Aaryn voice training last night. By the time she leaves, she should be good to go and ready to take over Julie Chen's job.
Aww, thanks GaYToR
Just one question.
Are they the fuzzy pink kind of shackles?
I have sent no less than three comments/questions in the past few days. I haven't seen one of them. I thought I had followed the rules of the site. I believe I was respectful of all concerned. Am I doing something wrong or have my comments or opinions been offensive. I will refrain from any more postings until I figure it out. Thank you for your attention.
Hi Susan - This is the 1st comment I've seen from you. :)
Has Blue made an appearance lately? I miss reading his comments :(
I hope the comp for the returning HG includes winning the Diamond Power of Veto-and I hope Judd wins!
Grendon, no pink fuzzies in my dungeon. Nothing but cold hard steel or black leather with padlocks.
:o)
GaYToR
I disagree about Judd coming back and doing something. If he doesn't win HOH or POV, I thing he, or anyone else, wiill be re-voted out.
@ Jerry....that's why I feel it wouldn't make sense unless there was a power involved to save them from immediately being put on the block.At least give them a chance to wheel and deal.
In the state of California exhibitionism is against the law if it’s in the public view. Just ask George Michaels hehe
When I was a young girl, a man drove up to the curb where I was walking down the street, he asked for direction to a specific street. It took me about five seconds to realize he was nude from the waist down and masturbating. I was creeped out for days after.
When I was an older teen I was working at an amusement park as a cashier. One day a guy walked up to my assistant cashier and told her he had a question about the bathrooms near-by and he asked her to follow him. As I stepped towards him to understand what he was asking for he opened his coat exposing an erection with a balloon tied around it. Again, creeped out for days.
When I was in my twenties, I was walking in deep concentration down a busy boulevard and I suddenly realized that the same car kept passing me, each time getting closer and closer to the curb, I looked over to see the driver and again, no pants and masturbating.
Creeped out so much so, that I never let my children walk anywhere alone. ever.
I’m writing this because I’m creeped out by Amanda’s need to expose herself almost daily. Now it’s sex with the lights on? Come on…this is crossing the line and I’m creeped out! hehe
My ex husband and I had great times “rolling in the hay” in many creative places for twenty six years and I’m pretty sure we were never seen. It required a lot of creativity and always became a course of giggles and belly laughs. I am nowhere close to being prudish about sex.
Seriously, I have to filter my exposure to Amanda on the screen, I already filter myself from most of the chat room people, I filter myself from GM and Arryn ugly talk, and Spencer’s grossness.
I’m starting to wonder what I am paying to watch!
Just venting hehe
Hi Carolyn*
Hey Pally :) Are they at it again? I missed it. But more importantly.. YIKES!!! Thank God you were ok through all that!
ShiShi :) Thank you SO much for your kind words... and for being here!
Yasmin :) You are a FINE addition to the family! Welcome!
TheMrs - He hasn't. He's got a new job that's keeping him super busy..
Thank you Carolyn I said I must be doing something incorrectly. Here is my comment/question. We all know the media frenzy when someone no matter how insignificant says or does something racist or homophobic. I find it suspect that CBS has been able to contain the amount of coverage and I find it suspect that no action has been taken against these HGs since they are technically employees of CBS. I have felt this year especially that BB is scripted. Yesterday I read a rumor on Facebook that Amanda is a personal friend of AG and is the predetermined winner of BB 15. Does anyone here have any insight to these allegations. I know from reading your blog for years that you and your friends have "friends in high places" and by that I mean you sometimes get lucky and are invited to a live show not meaning to cast aspersions on anyone. I have and will continue to enjoy this site mainly because of your kindness to each other and the strict adherence to the rules. I may not agree with some comments but never have I seen nastiness. I gave up on the chat rooms for that very reason. I can't see paying to be insulted. Thanks for letting me vent. I hope you all have some insight
3:05 camera 1&2-an interesting conversation between Helen and Elissa. Please be patient. I'm not as good as Carolyn.
Helen-Did Aaryn tell you you were the pawn or target.
Elissa-Target.
Helen-That's what she told me too.
Elissa-That I was her target?
Helen-Mmm hmm. I thought if it was Spencer on the block, if I won the veto, she didn't care. Which would mean you would have at least me, Andy, McCrae and Amanda to keep you. If you win the veto and come off the block and Spencer goes on I have you, Amanda, McCrae and Andy.
Elissa-Obviously.
After a moment of silence Elissa said she was tired and wanted to take a nap.
Helen-Just gotta win this damn veto and get Spencer on the block.
I just found it interesting that Elissa did NOT say anything about the conversation she had with Amanda. Amanda told Elissa that Helen is the target and that even if it did end up being Helen and Spencer on the block, Helen would still more than likely be voted out.
If you got all that you don't have to post this Carolyn.
@marcia, then that would be unfair to all the other players.
Susan,
Thank you. To answer your questions, first, I don't believe the HGs are CBS employees technically. They don't receive a salary. They receive a stipend. And.. If BB is run like every other show on television, that $ isn't even technically from CBS or the production company. It's from the payroll company..
Second, the rumor is 100% completely false.
No no nothing new,thank gawd, just going through old footage I hadn't seen while I had company.
Speaking of company! My daughter is coming to stay from Maui. She turned me on to BB in the summer of 03.
I told her we'd be watching BB while she's here and she cracked up laughing and said'"omgeee mother, you're still watching that show???"
Wait till she finds out I have the feeds and follow your site! LOL
If Helen leaves next, the remaining Hgs will alll be Caucasians. Wow
Thanks, Grendon!!
Pally- Phew! And YAYYY for your daughter coming!
Ty for your quick response
You never know what could happen on BB so I might have to eat my words but, I think if anything kills Helen's game it will be her own ego. She thinks everyone is more loyal to her than to anyone else. She has used the word malleable to describe Jessie, Kaitlin, Aaryn, Elissa and probably others. Now it seems she is delusional enough to believe that McCrae really is more loyal to her than Amanda. Yes, I know they have a 'fake' alliance but-really Helen?
I am really hoping whichever hg returns to the house gets a one-week timeframe where he/she can't be nominated, coupled w/ a power (like dpov). That, my friends, would be the start of something interesting.
Personally, I'm rooting for Judd. Although, if Elissa or Helen are evicted, Judd, Elissa, Helen then Candice - in that order - would be my choice to return.
GaYToR,
"I think he would be hell on wheels coming back with a vengeance for what Helen and Amanda did to him".
Yes!!!! Wouldn't it be wonderful??? :)) Especially when he learned from Jessie that he was evicted because he was accused of being the MVP!?!?! He wouldn't acknowledge Helen when he left..so he clearly saw her as the enemy...which would really make great entertainment when he confronted her with it. And, add to that, how Helen DOES NOT take confrontations very well. How DARE any of the HGs accuse her of lying!!!!
"No one likes to be falsely accused and I want Amanda to eat her words, whatever they were, as she said she would in the DR after Judd was evicted, if he was not MVP".
That is why I am so angry with CBS for not telling the HGs the true MVP. I don't know how Judd could prove it to McCrae that he wasn't MVP without CBS confirming it. I also want to see Amanda squirm! So much of her game play has been based on her falsely reading people and situations. Plus, Judd is owed an explanation for how Amanda, McCrae and Andy had shook hands a few days earlier and told him he was part of their final four. Judd truly believed in their alliance.
I am annoyed with Helen, Amanda and Andy for letting other people do their dirty work. Amanda cannot win a competition, even when they try to hand it to her, as they did the last HOH competition. She got this far by bullying and Andy is just sliding by prancing around the house eavesdropping with he and Helen also lying to people, which is why they said Judd had to go because he lied and couldn't be trusted!
A lot of the conspiracy theorists on the internet have Amanda winning.
http://bigbrotheraccess.com/big-brother-15-is-big-brother-2013-rigged-for-amanda-to-win-356892/
If you remember back to the beginning of the show, Amanda had admitted to knowing someone; however she would not admit WHO she was connected to. Though, CBS may now be placed in an embarrassing situation if Amanda would win.
Grendon,
"I wouldn't be surprised if Judd and McCrae made a final 2 and tried to work together on the sly. Judd's eviction did not sit well with McCrae."
I agree! McCrae was truly broken up by Andy's departure. Plus, I don't think he wants to have a final 2 with Amanda. After how she reacted when McCrae didn't throw the competition to her... can you imagine how she would react if McCrae didn't let HER WIN the $500,000.????? Amanda is a pity me.. sore loser!
As a friend of a former house guest, I promise this is NOT scripted. I don't watch anymore since I never liked the show but watched of course when my friend was on, but this blog is so good I still enjoy reading it.
Eddie from Hoboken
Hey Eddie! Long time no see! :)) Thanks for picking up my slack on that question.. I forgot she'd even asked about that.
Any insight on how things will work Thursday? Maybe, eviction, play for re entry, into house and play for HOH.
Hi Eddie* I remember you too!
Welcome home.
Hope all is well with you and your "friend" lol
That was one of my favorite seasons. I still visit youtube to enjoy the flashbacks.
Good to see you again! I have read the blog and caught up some. I'm glad this was not Adams season. None of these people make it easy to root for them and have very few redeeming qualities! Wow!! Hope all is well with everyone in the dish!!
@GaYToR and Grendon.....I prefer the leopard skin shackles myself and you can bet your boots I will never leave Miss Carolyn &Company!!!!!!
Grendon I listened to Amanda giving those voice lessons last night and was thinking the whole time that she needs to do something about her own voice! She has a very abrasive and irritating voice. Maybe it irritates me because she never shuts up.
I thought she was going to rape McCray last night! lol. Has anyone ever seen him on top? I haven't. She always seems the aggressor in that or any other relationship.
I have a friend with a personality like hers and when I am with her for an extended period of time I am exhausted when I get home. I made the mistake of going on a trip to Paris with her and some other friends once and it did not go well as I had to room with her! Needless to say I will not made that mistake again.
Don't get me wrong I like Amanda but she makes me tired.
Thank you both. I guess I was hoping scripted rather than believe they are really that vile. I guess I'll always be naive.
Everyone :)
Lessa's going to take the helm tonight so I can go to the memorial for my friend's son..
I've got the PoV Spoiler Post up already in advance of the trivia.. just so all the nuts and bolts are in place. ;)
@Eddie.....I remember you but forgot who your friend was????
Jerry - you got it.. perfect.
Adam from 2 seasons ago
Thank you, Pally ~C*
Right...thanks Eddie
Shi Shi
I tend to skip over the sex scenes. Who's on top, who's on bottom. It's all TMI this year. The last time I watched was season 10, April and Ollie. I said I wasn't gonna but curiosity got the best of me.
I am truly hoping that noms stay the same or if someone does come down it's Elissa. I'm fine with Helen being the target. Whether against Elissa or Spencer doesn't much matter. More than anything, I hope Helen stays in the dark, continuing to believe she is the pawn, and that the other HG's go through with their plan to blindside her.
Actually, as cruel as that sounds, it's less about me not liking Helen and more about me enjoying good entertainment. As viewers, I think that Dustin taught us years ago that absolutely nothing beats a good blindside.
ok.. i'm being picked up for the memorial..
lessa will be here for the spoiler
♥♥♥
C
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