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Tuesday, July 30, 2013

KABOOM! Amanda v Spencer & Aftermath

Amanda and Spencer got into it BIG TIME at 12:30pm.. As of 1:20pm, it is ongoing, and many from her alliance have come out to support Amanda..

I strongly encourage you to watch this on flashback - 12:30pm  - Cam 1 - July 30th

Cam 1 and 2

Amanda: So that 4 deal that you made a couple weeks ago, is that bullshit?
Spencer: Well, I don't think Howard is gonna be here, and I don't think  you trust me.

Amanda: I know what you're doing, and it's not going to work, and it's just putting a bigger target on you.
Spencer: The proof is in the pudding.

Spencer: I don't believe that for one second, Amanda.
Amanda: You were never the target this week.
Spencer: That may be the case, but Howard's my ally.  And it shows a lot of your loyalty if you were willing to vote me out over Candice.  Says a lot if we were in a fearsome foursome.
Amanda: You were in an alliance to get me out.
Spencer: I don't really give a shit, Amanda.
Amanda: You should.
Spencer: You try to threaten people.. I'm not some punk bitch who's gonna kiss your ass with the hopes of making it to jury.  I know you're the reason I'm up on the block..
Amanda: ..
Spencer: Shut up, Amanda.
Amanda; You're a bully..
Spencer: That's such a chicken shit way out.
Amanda: Who tells a woman to shut up.
Spencer: I do, when you need to listen.  Your deal with me was bullshit, just like all of your bs deals  you've made in the house..
**Seriously, this is usually where my fingers freeze up.

Amanda: I'm going home, so don't worry about it.  That's awesome.
Spencer: You're not.. But don't think I'm gonna kiss your butt..
Amanda: Oh please.  You don't think I know you told Candice to campaign against me?  Maybe the reason you went up is because you told the HoH you were gonna put her up.
Spencer: No, I went up because Howard's my friend.  All the shit you talk to me.. makes it really hard to trust you.

Amanda: You can't trust anyone in this game.
Spencer: I know you love your favorite phrase, the proof is in the pudding, but every time there's pudding it comes back to you.
Judd: Who's got pudding.

Judd: Is there more cofffee?
Amanda: I was the number one person the Moving Company wanted out..
Spencer: When you got close to McCrae.  but I told McCrae we wouldn't form a plan to come after you, and we didn't.  I thought Howard would vote the way I voted.
Amanda: What I don't understand is with the moving company, you tried desperately to go down with that ship, and now you're trying desperately to go down with this one.
Spencer: The moving company hasn't existed for a very long time.  In fact, it hsn't existed since you moved up into HoH with McCrae..

Judd is sitting between them like a buffer.

Spencer: You can believe whatever you want to, but that is the God's honest truth.  If you think I don't like you because of alliances formed day 2..
Amanda: I legitimately have nothing personal against you.  I didn't understand, at that point, why there was a question..

McCrae comes outside.. Thank God.

Spencer: There still is in place a plan to get Aaryn and GM out, but with her winning HoH this week, it flipped to Howard and Candice. Although it makes him hard to campaign for since he says to send him over Candice.
Amanda:  That's odd considering how she's been disposable to him.
Spencer: IT makes it bad for me if Howard leaves..
Amanda: It would be better for you for Candice to leave than for me to leave.
Spencer: I would like for Candice to leave.  
Amanda: I saw your face when Howard came out..
Judd: I did too..
Spencer: Basically, he says he wants to play this game as the same person inside the house as he is outside..  I want Candice to go home this week.

Amanda: I was genuinely happy for you when you won that Veto.
Spencer: Thank you.
Amanda: Cuz I did believe that you wouldn't want me gone.

McCrae: The thing I don't like is that Howard says he's not gonna campaign..
Spencer: He's been tellin' people to vote him out over Candice. It's not what I'd do.
Amanda: If you don't understand something, isn't that a problem?
Spencer: He doesn't lie, backstab..
Amanda: He doesn't lie?  2 days ago, he said Candice was a cancer on his game..
Judd: That was before the fact.. before she was on the block.. but then he told me what you were talking about, how he wants to go over Candice, which I think is nuts.
Spencer: I agree.  I totally agree with that.

Amanda: My thing is.. We could probably get Candice to go, if you work with me not against me.
Spencer: You come out here and bully me..
Amanda: Bully you?  What I said to you.. Everything that I do, I never before this thought you were going to be my main target.  I have a lot of f'in blood on my hands.. which could be good for you if I stayed.
Spencer: It's just a bunch of double speak.  You think because of some 90 minute conversation you had with Candice..
Amanda: Why would she make it up?
Spencer: Because I'm the easy scapegoat.  F'in be smart.  Use that brain of yours.  I'm always gonna be the scapegoat when it comes to Candice and Howard.  You tell me you don't trust me, then you go believe someone who you don't trust at all?
Amanda: Why would she say that to Helen then?
Spencer: Who better to blame everything on than mean old Spencer?

Amanda: I'm not gonna feel safe til the votes come out.
Spencer: You assigning targets is a little odd, since you just said a minute ago that you have no power.  I'd love to see Howard stay this week.


Spencer: I hear what you say, butit's very different than what you said 15 minutes ago.  I know you don't like me.  I know you don't trust me.
Amanda: I personally haven't had that connection with you.  McCrae does.  I trust him.  What I'm saying is, if these votes come out, and it's against me, not Candice, then maybe we should rethink who we trust.
Spencer: We're talking circles.  You know who I want out.  Let's just leave it at that.. and get to Thursday.

Helen and Elissa join..

Spencer: Ladies...
Amanda: And if she is making that up, then maybe that's something that needs to get cleared up.
Spencer: Anything that falls back on Amanda, I'm the easy scape goat.
Amanda: Same goes... And to give me credit for Aaryn's nominations..
Spencer: I don't think it's judt you.

Helen: Who else do you think it is?  Let's have it out.
**yay, Helen! Way to support your alliance member.

12:58pm This is ongoing.. on the quad at this point.. Spark up your feeds, folks!  THIS is where the game is played.  If you need the feeds, here's a 2 day free trial.


It calms down enough to have Amanda and Spencer alone again..

Amanda: I am confident that I have the numbers to stay here, even if you htink you have the numbers to get me out.
Spencer: I don't think I have the numbers to get you out.
Amanda: I think you should switch it to getting Candice out.  If he goes, you're alone.  You're not on the block.  You don't have to fight for him.  Let him fight for himself.  I know, and I should keep it in, but I can't keep it in.. I should let it go til the day of.. If you'r egoing to try to do this, the best you can hope for is a tie, and Aaryn wont send me home.
Spencer: I know.
Amanda: The more time you have in this house.. The more time you have to bond with people.. And this is really stupid of me to tell you.  I'm giving you 2 days advance.. I'm trusting you.. I'm letting you know you're not my biggest target.. We can make other people targets.  I know what it is, and it's really risky.. If I already know about the plan, it's not going to work.
Spencer: I want Candice out.
Amanda: So you don't have any plan to get me out. (ha) Just tell me the truth.
Spencer: I have no plans out there against you.  You'll see on Thursday.

Amanda gives him opportunity after opportunity, but he wont take it..

Amanda: You think you can trust certain people that you can't trust.  I know that you're smart.  Don't play this game for someone else.
Spencer: There's no possible plan to get 5 people to vote you out.
Amanda: So there's a bunch of people just making this up.
Spencer: There's a bunch of people making this up.
Amanda: We're 2 people.. The longer you go in this game, the fewer votes you need..  If the votes come out this way, and I don't have any votes on me, then I have no reason not to trust you.  And we have friends in this game.. And we can talk to.. and potentially help you. We could perhaps sway, and keep you here longer..
Spencer:  Sure.

1:40pm -- Candice comes outside.  That should put an end to this completely.
BB: Aaryn, please report to the HoH bedroom.
Spencer: Pandora's box.
MCCrae: HoH blog..
Amanda: Camera..

1:42pm  -- Measuring the Fallout..  None on Amanda.. But Candice's fate may be coming into play.
Judd, Helen, Andy, Jessie

Helen: She didn't even try out for the show.
Judd: Wasn't she an actress or something?
Helen: She was Miss Louisiana or something..
Judd: She never talks game to me.
Helen: She talks game to me, but her whole focus is getting Aaryn out of the house.. and keeping Howard..

Amanda and McCrae enter.

Helen: I missed the first 20 minutes of it, cuz I was working out, but when I heard what was going on, I went to get McCrae..
Amanda: I just want him to redirect his target to Candice, not me.

Judd: If people say they don't wanna be here? Fine then.  Byeee.  There's thousands of people who wanted to be here.  We should do them a favor and send him packing. Don't ever say you don't wanna be here.
Amanda: You can't betray people again and again.. and then expect people to be loyal..
Andy: They pulled me in, and they're trying to get me to flip the entire house on Helen and Elissa...
Amanda: He told me to Shut up.
Helen: He told me to shut up??
Amanda: It was super heated.  My point was, you can go with the house, and lessen your target, or you can continue as you are, and increase your target.  I was trying to let him know that his plan isn't going to work, and to redirect his efforts. (paraphrasing)

Judd: Can I start calling you Piss Willy??
Amanda: Sure.

Judd leaves

Amanda: That was ballsy of Spencer to call out Elissa..
Andy: Some thing happened this morning that you need to know about.. I told Judd I was gonna give Spencer a heads up that he didn't have the votes to get you out right before the vote, and he was SO pissed.  He was like, fine, I'm just gonna tell him now!
Amanda: He wants to flip the house.  And he's realizing he f'd up.  And he's scared.  And he's backpedaling.
Andy: Shh.. Spencer just walked by.

Candice comes in and takes a seat.  My wrists love her right now.

Helen: Candice, you need to be careful of Spencer.
Amanda: He's been outside telling everyone he wants you out.
Helen: He's dangerous. We've got your back.  Just know that. You are not the target.  He's just totally screwing you.
Candice: I can't control that because I'm not voting..
Helen: Well, whatever Howard told him is not working, because he's trying to get you out.
Andy: I really wonder if we're gonna have a 9 person jury.. If we re, everyone after this week is on jury.
Candice: It is what it is.. It's his mouth, I can't shut it.  I can't stalk people for votes.  They're not gonnabe honest with me anyway.
**A thank you wouldn't be the worst thing you could say, Candice. 
Helen: I think you should have zero votes.  If it's any different, I'm gonna have a conniption.

1:57pm - The cockpit has cleared, with the exception of Helen and Candice...

Talk turns to dreams last night..  DRs late at night.. Staying up late with Howard, talking about families and church..

Timecheck -- 2pm

**It's time for a wee bloggy break.  I need a dose of fresh air and sanity.  See you back here shortly with a new top post. :)  Please mind the critters on the live feeds.  You never know when someone's gonna go kaboom!



Blogger lee said...

OMG!! I am almost caught up to it now. Helen just started talking. I can't even listen to her. I can't listen to most of these HGs. Amanda's voice and her swallowing and chewing is doing me in, as is Helen's voice. And both of their condescending tones. I am by no means a Spencer fan, but I say GOOD for him! For talking his mind. I'm Team Judd and I think for Judd's game, they should get Amanda out. I have so much bitching I wanna do now.........ugggghhhhh.......

July 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM  
Blogger lee said...

Whatever happened to secret alliances? I mean...goodness. The only true alliance that I see is Mc/Am and they are stupid if they let them keep controlling the game. Helen, too.

July 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM  
Blogger lee said...

And, there goes Helen telling Spencer he has a good chance of making jury, which is his dream. Cause, after all, she is the dream maker. Gag. I think I have to shut it off now. I just can't.......good for you Carolyn, for listening. ;)

July 30, 2013 at 1:58 PM  
Blogger Patti Z said...

Carolyn, if youstart this conversation about 10-15 minutes earlier, you can see how Amanda is baiting him. I swear her paranoia is going to get her out sooner rather than later. I'm not a fan of either of them, but I definitely think Amanda got this one started with her "in your face" threats to him.

July 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM  
Blogger lee said...

This whole conversation should make some others think about breaking people up. It is bullying. Kinda. Yeah, poor you, Helen. (OK, shutting off now)I'm hoping Howard ends up staying!!!!
OH, Helen..."I want to make your dream come true." Like I said, the dream maker. Like Willie Wonka.

July 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM  
Blogger lee said...

Is nobody else listening???? Am I the only one commenting? lol....I will shut up now, Carolyn!! haha

July 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM  
Blogger Grendon said...

Do you think there could be another town hall meeting tonight? With the whole town? And alcohol?

I would like that almost as much as endurance. I'll never forget season 10's half way dinner. It was fun.

July 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM  
Blogger lee said...

"They probably won't have a young cast next year"----Candace.

From your lips to G-d's ears.

July 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM  
Blogger Pally said...

Hi Carolyn*

Amanda has blood on her hands? For what?

July 30, 2013 at 2:47 PM  
Blogger Grendon said...

House meeting? WTH!!!! Wait until after you get alcohol to call a house meeting.

July 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM  
Blogger lscott said...

After Howard departs do you think spencer will finally get it that the MC is no more?

Is Jessie still in the house?

July 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM  
Blogger Mappy said...

Wow! Excited to read Part 2 with Candice and the house meeting.

Hamster fur is flying :)

July 30, 2013 at 5:02 PM  
Blogger elizabeth valenza said...

Hello can't anybody see helen thinks she runs it all!

July 31, 2013 at 1:43 AM  
Blogger Shi Shi said...

@Grendon...I too think Helen is 100% behind all of this nonsense! I'm so tired of her thinking she is running the whole show and telling people how they are going to be eliminated. The nerve!

I also agree with you 100% about Amanda. Although I really like her she is also beginning to wear on my nerves(I think the same thing is happening with McCray). She needs to just sit back for a while and try to quit running everything! I think she is very funny, especially in the DR and the show would be boring without her.

I also do not think Judd is as smart as they are all giving him credit for. I believe when he asks them what a word means he really doesn't know not that he's trying to appear ignorant. Looks as if everyone has lost trust in him, even the Goof Troop. So Sad.

July 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM  

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